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NEXUS S Designed for 2.4....

I'm not at my PC, but there is too much proof for it. 2.4 will have honeycomb features! Google Talk video chat. New UI buttons, YouTube and more. 2.4 will still be called gingerbread and I think it will OTA update the same day Honeycomb tablets arrive.
I think 2.3 was released just to stay on schedule. I also firmly believe the Nexus line is Google's way of setting standards for OEMs.
Your thoughts?

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vetvito said:
there is too much proof for it.
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What, none?
There is pretty much nothing known about 2.4 except for a few shots of it on a Sony phone with a Sony UI.

Um...honeycomb was already announced to be 3.0.
2.4 is a minor revision.

Rusty! said:
What, none?
There is pretty much nothing known about 2.4 except for a few shots of it on a Sony phone with a Sony UI.
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All of it wasn't Sony's UI. If you watch the video, you can catch a glipse of Honeycomb style buttons. Plus new animations.
I don't think Google would release a device with hardware that wont have native apps. Think about it, at the moment there is no native FFC app. The FFC. And Gtalk video chat has to be the biggest proof.
Not to mention they showed Honeycomb the exact same day the SDK was released for 2.3.

JCopernicus said:
Um...honeycomb was already announced to be 3.0.
2.4 is a minor revision.
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That's why 2.4 is still called gingerbread. It will update Google Apps and some more visual changes. Nothing big, but noticeable.
People will see what I mean in due time. ;-)

vetvito said:
That's why 2.4 is still called gingerbread. It will update Google Apps and some more visual changes. Nothing big, but noticeable.
People will see what I mean in due time. ;-)
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I misread what you wrote in the OP. oops.
Also the SE Xperia will have 2.4 when it's released next year. lol =X

vetvito said:
That's why 2.4 is still called gingerbread. It will update Google Apps and some more visual changes. Nothing big, but noticeable.
People will see what I mean in due time. ;-)
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I agree, in my opinion it will play out much like the 2.1 update did a year ago. Initial release, then a month later the new revision (all under the same name).

A quick Google http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...possibly-an-incremental-gingerbread-upgrade/#

err... isn't this the Xperia Arc we're talking about?
check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2yhd_aoo4A at 0:45.... that one shows the version still as 2.3 ...
could the animations just be SE tweaks?
Boohooo then

That one also has the 2.3 notification bar, rather than the odd HTC-a-like one from other pictures.

If their is a 2.4, it will most likely contain some stuff that 2.3 was missing that they had promised us initially like video chat via gtalk, which i know Andy said was a honeycomb feature but it was supposed to be in Gbread,

hopefully it includes the new pc to device market that they promised in IO2010. I have been bummed since they changed the market and appbrain can't push installs.
something i haven't heard them talk about ever is controlling what get's restored to your phone. I change phones often and like some apps restored but not others. it would be nice if there was an option to change settings via web browser. pipe dreams, they keep my smiling.

kernel version 2.6.32?
fake? froyo with edited version string?

ekerazha said:
kernel version 2.6.32?
fake? froyo with edited version string?
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I do believe that some hardware/kernel versions dont mix and match very well. so maybe it makes sense?

ekerazha said:
kernel version 2.6.32?
fake? froyo with edited version string?
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cm7 builds for incredible are still 2.6.32 and it is based on aosp 2.3 so i don't think that this indicates a fake.

WTF?
so happy to know a premiere phone for sony has a higher gingerbread version than their FLAGSHIP VANILLA NEXUS S??
what the **** man, honestly.

crazifyngers said:
cm7 builds for incredible are still 2.6.32 and it is based on aosp 2.3 so i don't think that this indicates a fake.
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aosp 2.3 has the 2.6.35.7 kernel. Those builds are merged manually with the .32 kernel. But the xperia arc running .32 on 2.4 is very very strange.

dudeimgeorge said:
so happy to know a premiere phone for sony has a higher gingerbread version than their FLAGSHIP VANILLA NEXUS S??
what the **** man, honestly.
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they're oem's. They have early access to future builds from google to be able to build it for new hardware and optimize for it. However, these builds aren't released. Nexus S will be the first phone to get the latest in an official release

dudeimgeorge said:
so happy to know a premiere phone for sony has a higher gingerbread version than their FLAGSHIP VANILLA NEXUS S??
what the **** man, honestly.
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That phone isn't released yet? Hell it probably won't be released until 3Q at the pace that sony works.

Honeycombe 3.0 Preview

Hey all, i recently downloaded the sdk for Honeycombe to try and i love the new layout, a radical difference between 3.0 and 2.3. So when can we all have this on our recently awesomeated x10's?
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wow can't wait to see that on our phone

Isn't that the tablet version?

will.m said:
Isn't that the tablet version?
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So far they havent released minimum specs, some sites speculate since its based on the NVIDIA Tegra 2 dual core CPU that it will be the minimum. But a phone can dream.
The question is, if 3.0 is tablet based then what is the next update for smartphones? Surely not Ice Cream Sandwich? Tablet OS should work on smart phones otherwise they should use a different numbering system. Kinda getting ahead of myself since the x10 wont get as much as 2.2 officially.

Tasteslikeawesome said:
So far they havent released minimum specs, some sites speculate since its based on the NVIDIA Tegra 2 dual core CPU that it will be the minimum. But a phone can dream.
The question is, if 3.0 is tablet based then what is the next update for smartphones? Surely not Ice Cream Sandwich? Tablet OS should work on smart phones otherwise they should use a different numbering system. Kinda getting ahead of myself since the x10 wont get as much as 2.2 officially.
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From what I understand regarding 3.0, if the resolution of the screen is above a certain amount (ie a Tablet) then it will have the new UI and but if the resolution is smaller (ie a phone) then the UI will remain the same.

In this article on the german smartphone site areamobile.de, they say, that Honeycomb will stay a tablet-only OS in the near future.
But later this can change since they want to reunite the Android versions in the long term.
You could try Google translate if you're interested in the article

Findee said:
From what I understand regarding 3.0, if the resolution of the screen is above a certain amount (ie a Tablet) then it will have the new UI and but if the resolution is smaller (ie a phone) then the UI will remain the same.
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This is what I was thinking. There's no way you can fit that many icons with options on our phones. Everything would be way too small.

sound great!! can't wait the honeycomb is runnning on our x10

Tasteslikeawesome said:
Hey all, i recently downloaded the sdk for Honeycombe to try and i love the new layout, a radical difference between 3.0 and 2.3. So when can we all have this on our recently awesomeated x10's?
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-__- can you please accept the fact that our Rachael will always be at 2.1 and that there will not be any upgrades anymore???
And no, our phones are not awesome just recently. It's been awesome since the day she was born.

loneLEE said:
-__- can you please accept the fact that our Rachael will always be at 2.1 and that there will not be any upgrades anymore???
And no, our phones are not awesome just recently. It's been awesome since the day she was born.
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WORD man, WORD !!!

Wonderfull i can't wait

loneLEE said:
-__- can you please accept the fact that our Rachael will always be at 2.1 and that there will not be any upgrades anymore???
And no, our phones are not awesome just recently. It's been awesome since the day she was born.
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Considering the fact that I haven't used 2.1 since mid December and now currently running a stable 2.3 I'd say that no more updates is a little exaggerated. I never said that I expected an official se ROM, that would be a madness comparable to a iPhone user happy with the lack of flash. j & z have provided seemingly miracles in the past and I don't see why they can't again.
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Tasteslikeawesome said:
Considering the fact that I haven't used 2.1 since mid December and now currently running a stable 2.3 I'd say that no more updates is a little exaggerated. I never said that I expected an official se ROM, that would be a madness comparable to a iPhone user happy with the lack of flash. j & z have provided seemingly miracles in the past and I don't see why they can't again.
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Oh. you mean resorting to hacking -_-
ok then =S
Let's see how they perform miracles by incorporating the Arc new media and timescapes into it =X

wish we can see honeycomb on our x10s

alankstiyo said:
wish we can see honeycomb on our x10s
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The word is just in:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/03/honeycomb-wont-be-on-phones-but-it-will-encrypt-your-data/
No Honeycomb for android phones.

Tasteslikeawesome said:
The word is just in:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/03/honeycomb-wont-be-on-phones-but-it-will-encrypt-your-data/
No Honeycomb for android phones.
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That's good new for me that means all new phones are on equal grounds now since 2.2 and 2.3 doesn't fully support DC

unknown13x said:
That's good new for me that means all new phones are on equal grounds now since 2.2 and 2.3 doesn't fully support DC
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And we all get 3.X Icecream yay.

Tasteslikeawesome said:
And we all get 3.X Icecream yay.
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You are correct

Sounds wonderfull........

loneLEE said:
Oh. you mean resorting to hacking -_-
ok then =S
Let's see how they perform miracles by incorporating the Arc new media and timescapes into it =X
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people use that garbage?
You are such a goon, why come into threads to complain that people want more out of their device than stock 2.1? Not everyone is a capitalist sheep that will let companies give it to them in the ass..

Ice Cream Sandwich

iv'e seen this discussed on other sites and on xda (just not under HD2 Android yet) but...seems there's an idea to combine the elements of Gingerbread with Honeycomb and call it ice cream sandwich. wow,google really knows how to roll them out. they started with 'c' with cupcake,then 'd' with donut, 'e' eclair, 'f' froyo, 'g' gingerbread...and 'h' with honeycomb. and now with 'i' for ice cream sandwich..hmm makes you wonder what a 'j' could be ?? jello maybe. at this rate they're going to run out of alphabets !! anybody else get the scoop on this ?

What is the point of your thread?
Mods close, please.

motionz said:
What is the point of your thread?
Mods close, please.
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you do understand this thread is in forum HD2 Android Q&A and General, right?

Exactly..it's under questions and general. so i don't know why it should be closed. i guess some people feel in control or powerful by closing someones thread, or having it closed. i just wanted folks input about what they think this new version has in store. geesh.

fusion06 said:
iv'e seen this discussed on other sites and on xda (just not under HD2 Android yet) but...seems there's an idea to combine the elements of Gingerbread with Honeycomb and call it ice cream sandwich. wow,google really knows how to roll them out. they started with 'c' with cupcake,then 'd' with donut, 'e' eclair, 'f' froyo, 'g' gingerbread...and 'h' with honeycomb. and now with 'i' for ice cream sandwich..hmm makes you wonder what a 'j' could be ?? jello maybe. at this rate they're going to run out of alphabets !! anybody else get the scoop on this ?
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Hey that is crazy man I never really notice the whole alphabet thing. I to wonder what the next one will be called, The Ice Cream Samwich thing sounds pretty cool too, I will have to do some checking into that. It has my attention enough that I am subscribing to this thread.
motionz said:
What is the point of your thread?
Mods close, please.
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Lets do some analyzing here, emphasis on anal. You joined XDA back in March of 2009 and have only made 68 post seens you joined. So what is your freaking problem? You obviously only posted in this thread to cause trouble. And judging from the two stats I just gave on you, the only reason you come to XDA is to leech off off of the great work here to have a cool device. Cause you surely are not making a effort to contribute to the community.

+1 T-Mac... couldn't have said it better myself!

lol imagine if it was actually would called jello. i think it would be sweet. Whoa never noticed the abc's either!

j for jizz

From anything/everything i've read on the subject, I think it's basically supposed to be a phone version of Honeycomb. Although, i'm sure by then they'll throw all kinds of other fun into the mix, and of course put a giant ice cream cone on the front lawn.

Supposedly, it's called Icecream Sandwich because, "I" follows "H"(oneycomb), and "...Sandwich" because in the Googleplex, there are statues for each of the iterations (e.g., cupcake, donut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb) and "icecream" is hard to differentiate from froyo=frozen yogurt. See this article.

Theory said:
Supposedly, it's called Icecream Sandwich because, "I" follows "H"(oneycomb), and "...Sandwich" because in the Googleplex, there are statues for each of the iterations (e.g., cupcake, donut, eclair, froyo, gingerbread, honeycomb) and "icecream" is hard to differentiate from froyo=frozen yogurt. See this article.
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See that is what I call contributing. Nice post there Theory, and pretty cool user I.D. too.

J for jelly bean filled cake or whatever.
What's more interesting - what did the B & A stand for?Butterscotch?Bachi?
Almond cake? Apple tart(not likely)?
Android salad!

aHadar said:
J for jelly bean filled cake or whatever.
What's more interesting - what did the B & A stand for?Butterscotch?Bachi?
Almond cake? Apple tart(not likely)?
Android salad!
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May be because A- Apple and B - Blackberry are already taken !!!

nice post earlier T-Mac, sometimes discussion forums need a bit of discussion rather than armchair modding
i'm excited for ice-cream sandwich, wonder if it'll make it to HD2? I wonder what stage development on our phone will have to stop when the hardware gets too old? fingers crossed we can experience this OS, gingerbread + honeycomb equals awesome I think

This sounds like a great os, and this is what Google has to say about it.
"This morning we talked about our next version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich. Our goal with Ice Cream Sandwich is to deliver one operating system that works everywhere, regardless of device. Ice Cream Sandwich will bring everything you love about Honeycomb on your tablet to your phone, including the holographic user interface, more multitasking, the new launcher and richer widgets."
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Source: http://www.itpro.co.uk/633391/android-ice-cream-sandwich-to-arrive-in-q4
Well I guess we'll have to wait till it comes out ( Q4 2011, source code?) then we can try it on our beloved HD2, till then, so long.

T-Macgnolia said:
See that is what I call contributing. Nice post there Theory, and pretty cool user I.D. too.
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Thanks, you are very kind

pras680 said:
May be because A- Apple and B - Blackberry are already taken !!!
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They might just be the Alpha and Beta versions of Android. If that is so, then the very first Android phone--the G1--running Android 1.0 is essentially a Beta release (Cupcake is 1.5). Which is actually quite in character with the way Google does things--it wasn't that long ago that "Beta" was finally dropped from Gmail.
(Sorry, I noticed that I could have used "multiquote" only after I posted my last.)

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Maybe it'll look futuristic like Windows 8. xD Wait honeycomb already does. >.>
No idea, but I'm not so fond of a table sort of UI on a phone's "small" screen/resolution. But hey, that's just being prejudice since I haven't tried it yet.

!! 4 New Pictures added!! Leaked Nozomi Picture! Is this Sonys New ICS\GB UI?

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This is leaked picture of the sony ericsson nozomi, wich will (if we belive the rumors) ship with ICS. So this could be how our ICS uptade will look like...
Update 12.12.2011:
And i found this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20230317#post20230317
Sources: (not english)
http://www.areamobile.de/news/20389-sony-ericsson-nozomi-heisst-spaeter-wohl-xperia-arc-hd
http://www.techorz.com/smartphones/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-hd-nozomi-lt26i-hk/

Let's hope not, that looks like a step down from SE's current UI

i think the dockbar looks nice but the wallpaper is ugly. The statusbar is not so good t see....

Isn't that bad, though its horrible compared to Vanilla...

I think it's gingerbread, the folders look the same as sony's current 2.3.X and the notification hasn't changed, they would take everything good away from ICS so yeah... gingerbread

ff7fan4eva said:
I think it's gingerbread, the folders look the same as sony's current 2.3.X and the notification hasn't changed, they would take everything good away from ICS so yeah... gingerbread
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but why would they create an entire new UI for gingerbread when they already have a pretty nice one... The Notification bar is alight but the dock is horrible

TheCraig said:
but why would they create an entire new UI for gingerbread when they already have a pretty nice one... The Notification bar is alight but the dock is horrible
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The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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Good point. Though I hope its vanilla as possible...

AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand. No doubt sony intend to set themselves apart from the SE brand with there own ui.
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But at the top of the phone is still sony ericsson and its real name will be xperia arc hd.... That does not sound like a new brand for me...

I actually LIKE the entire UI.

AndroHero said:
The current ui is for the "xperia" range. The nozomi will be the first phone released under the Sony brand.
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I doubt that. This will be a Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc HD or Nozomi. Sony Ericsson phones will still be coming out until mid-2012, that's when the first Sony branded phones will be released. This will likely be the Sony Ericsson ICS interface
Source 1 Source 2 Source 3
P.S. I really like the leaked shots of this phone so far. This may be my 2012 replacement phone if it looks anything like these shots...

I can tell you from experience.the phone is slick. Solid build quality. Very good looking and fast as u know what. I'll see if I can get more hands on time with it. Was only able to play with it for 10 minutes a couple weeks ago. The battery cover and full back has almost a felt or suede feel to it. It was running GB 2.3.5 if I remember correctly.
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Some more pictures apperead today:
But they dont show much more detail
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And i found this one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20230317#post20230317

Gsmarena has exclusives which state it runs 2.3.5 gingerbread. And will do at launch

ICS on the Xperia Play (official: we won't get it :( )

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Sony has confirmed that we won't get Ice Cream Sandwich on our Xperia Plays:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/
Sorry for making you think we would get it... ​

This is great, thanks.

well it's missing from this sony page:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/

Sony never talk to each other (sections) and would not trust what is written in the Sony support/product site so would wait for an official press release first before jumping the gun. Maybe the dude above me has spotted something more revealing .
BTW love the video I wonder who that was made by hmmmm
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I know that the r800x (Verizon) will likely not get the update but do you think people with the r800at (AT&T) will get it?

poo-tang said:
Sony never talk to each other (sections) and would not trust what is written in the Sony support/product site so would wait for an official press release first before jumping the gun. Maybe the dude above me has spotted something more revealing .
BTW love the video I wonder who that was made by hmmmm
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It was made by you
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The Xperia ray and the Neo V has the same specs as the PLAY so theres no reason why the PLAY should not be getting ICS.
It will definitely get ICS and it's just a matter of time !

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So I think it will be available very soon .

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So I think it will be available very soon .
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There it is for all those doubters !

Other same spec device's got the update because it works ok. From the look of how the games run on the beta i would say ICS would brake the gaming side of a gaming device which would be silly for Sony to release it.

I still reckon people should just flash to AOKP rom. Looks better than the standard Sony Ericsson UI anyway.
Something about the standard UI just looks to me, I dunno, plain.
I couldnt care less about games working on it. I just use mine for emulators anyway

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well it's missing from this sony page:
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
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OMG... I doesn't say Xperia Play... That's not good.

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5. I have heard that ICS won't run as good as Gingerbread for XPlay. Is that true?
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I can't help but think that maybe the XPlay-to-ICS thing would be like the x10-to-Gingerbread event. I never had the chance to play around with an Xperia x10 before, but last night I had to help my friend with his new x10. It was super snappy with its stock Froyo ROM, then lags were very evident and noticeable when I flashed the latest GB for the x10. I fear this will happen to Xperia PLAY.
I'm well informed about Sony warning 2011 Xperia phone owners around a month or two ago that the ICS coming to the portfolio might not be that fast and reiterated that their GB is very stable. Everyone wants a good upgrade, but again WHAT IF the fate of the x10 happens to our Xplays, too? God I don't want a laggy phone!

right now which is best custom ICS rom in the dev section ?
best in the field of stability and working touchpad.
thanks.

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I can't help but think that maybe the XPlay-to-ICS thing would be like the x10-to-Gingerbread event. I never had the chance to play around with an Xperia x10 before, but last night I had to help my friend with his new x10. It was super snappy with its stock Froyo ROM, then lags were very evident and noticeable when I flashed the latest GB for the x10. I fear this will happen to Xperia PLAY.
I'm well informed about Sony warning 2011 Xperia phone owners around a month or two ago that the ICS coming to the portfolio might not be that fast and reiterated that their GB is very stable. Everyone wants a good upgrade, but again WHAT IF the fate of the x10 happens to our Xplays, too? God I don't want a laggy phone!
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X10 never got an official froyo. It went from 1.6 to 2.1 to 2.3.
Not only that, but 2.3 on X10 was identical in performance to 2.1 (general consensus). Something must have been wrong with your buddies phone. When CM7 came to X10, it was (and still is) the fastest, smoothest and best ROM on the x10.

For the "The official info thread" you should probably spell it right

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...ream-sandwich-rollout-for-xperia-smartphones/

Well, I created this thread trully believeing we would get the ICS update.
Sorry to all I made to think it would happen.
And, thanks Sony, for making a gaming phone with such old hardware.

Xperia play Definitely my last sony and android phone. Bought this last december just for the ICS.
Will gift this to my bro and ill get iphone 4 or 4s. Good by sony and android.
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