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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
jay_tea said:
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
Even one star is generous.
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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We know, we know.
Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face
joelszs said:
Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
joelszs said:
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
cheetah2k said:
I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.
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To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
i don't understand why you need us to convince you to keep something. it's your own decision. if you want the SGS2, then get it. if you're happy with your atrix, then keep it. we all have different opinions and decisions. make your own, honestly.
lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I would trade mine in a heartbeat if this bootloader doesn't get unlocked. I am getting sick of the Motorola drama.
Do it. You wont regret it
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Any ideas on a good place to sell the Atrix and buy the SGS2 (or the Samsung Attain which will be the AT&T version of the SGS2)? I'm new on eBay so I'm a little worried that buyers wouldn't buy from me because I don't have any feedback. Any other options?
Think about it, try out the GSII if you are able, look at the dev threads and maybe wait a few weeks to see what the situation is for the Atrix compared to it. I know I certainly will consider it if/when the GSII comes to AT&T.
EDIT: Only other place I can think of is Craigslist. If you post plenty of pictures and a detailed description, that will help.
Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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This is what you should do.
Also the processor and GPU on the Atrix is better than the one on the SGSII. When the Atrix gets 2.3 it will do circles around the SGSII.
There are only 2 things that will pull me towards an SGSII
1. Unlocked bootloader (this likely going to be locked when it comes to AT&T)
2. Super Amoled screen
If those are important to you go get it if not keep the atrix. The dev section is booming we might get the bootloader unlocked.
lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!
I've got both handsets and to be honest the grass isn't necessarily greener on the SGS II side. Geez its a nice handset though, but I still believe 4" is the best size. I've found that the SGS II has a very plastic feel, and the back cover is so thin. I've been in a few situations where I've accidently sat down with the Atrix in my back pocket, and its survived easily, but I worry about doing the same with the SGS II. The SGS II probably isn't the phone I would take out drinking with the boys on a Friday night - I'm sure I would easily break it.
If you're looking for a speed comparison between Gingerbread handsets, it runs just as smooth on the SGS II as it does on my Nexus S (yes I also have the NS). There's no real difference between them IMO, (even though the Nexus S is single core). Where the SGS II shines is in having numerous widgets going and live wall papers at the same time - and although the lag is still there in momentary milliseconds, its no where as bad as the Atrix with live wallpapers going with Android 2.2. I think this is where Gingerbread shines though - and I'm sure the Atrix will perform similar when it gets Gingerbread. Its this very reason why, although I've been tempted to sell the Atrix as well, I'm prepared to hang onto it until it gets 2.3.
Damage wise, I've found the Atrix is easier to fix. For example, I dropped my Atrix onto my concrete driveway from low height and damaged the corners of the back cover - However, the cover was easily replaced by one from www.cnn.cn. As you know, the cover on the Atrix covers the corners, so when you replace the back cover, its all fixed. The SGS II isn't the same. If you drop it on the corners, you need to replace the entire body..! I'm not looking forward to this..
I think other than the shear size of the SGS II being a negative for me, I really wish the SGS II had qHD screen resolution. 800x480 at 4.3" on the SGS II is just bad IMO, although maybe if I hadn't gone from the Atrix to the SGS II, I wouldn't have cared. I feel I have been spoilt by the qHD though, especially when I view high resolution photos I've taken with my Canon 5D Mk II DSLR - on the SGS II, the sub-pixelation is a killer...
My 2 cents
lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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You know, sometimes you have to just get out there and say how you feel.
I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.
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I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Why again should he not ask for opinions about a phone on a board that is focused around discussions on said phone?
BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Normally I would agree with this school of thought, but the SG2 is a $600-$900 phone to just "Jump into".
The Atrix unlocked is not cheap either.
It's nice to hear other people's input since XDA is a "community" that tries to help others.
Sure you can read reviews in Samsung's forum, but to hear it from somebody in here gives you more perspective.
Sure I've seen multiple threads about this, "and wish it was all in one neat thread", but if Motorola got their act together (especially for Bell users) this **** wouldn't be happening as much...
Man_of_Leisure said:
I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.
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Nobody is talking thrash, OP is just asking for "help" from others.
The "only" mistake OP made, was creating a new thread instead of posting his concerns in the other existing, that's all...
CaelanT said:
Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!
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LOL! All I could think of was this:
“I command ye, therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. You have sat here too long for the good you do. In the name of God, go!”
@cheetah2k Thanks for the great writeup!
Everyday to and from work, I think about making the switch myself. I've had the Bell Atrix for over a month, and have probably used it for half the time. My Motorola Milestone is kicking it's ass right now and that's not sitting well with me.
^ (still have a capped device with no Stock SBF and Adfree still doesn't work)
The only thing that still keeps me holding on is hoping that Gingerbread actually fixes this device, and that I get the "Telus Fascinate" experience again.
^Basically I had the same garbage issues with the Fascinate on Eclair, but Froyo almost fixed everything. Sadly GPS was still broken, but the phone was way better than before.
Last week I actually wiped my Atrix and almost sold it, but after reading about some of the bugs on the SGII it's bought me a little bit more time.
Hardware and form factor wise the Atrix is PERFECT, but it's like using a Core 2 Duo PC running on 98/Me. Part of me still doesn't trust Motorola, and the support on their forums blows right now, but the phone has so much potential in front of it.
If the Galaxy S II didn't have so many dead pixel units reported, I would have pulled the trigger a long time ago and pitted the 2 phones against each other. For now I'm just waiting for the SG2 to either come down in price, or Moto to give us an "official" timetable of when Gingerbread is gonna be rolled out (including the forgotten Bell units)...
+1 for cheetah2k, a good seemingly unbiased comparison. I think its best that I stick with the Atrix because of the things it still has that the SGS2 doesn't, like qHD and the awesome fingerprint sensor. Plus, it'll probably be a little while before the SGS2 officially comes on AT&T, so I might as well just wait for the next Nexus. Thanks again, cheetah2k!
system update is really a issue constraining phone's spec
I bought atrix just for it is the first phone with 1ghz*2 +1g ram
but I'm now considering to replace it with a next-g nexus
for it is branded by Google and always gets the latest version
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Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
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why should we bother? Get an iPhone. see who cares.
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I had IPhone for 3 years. Great device. No way could I leave this for it again.
If iPhone5 is 4'3" screen, 1.5 dual core processor, accelerated browser, as easy to jailbreak as this is to root, I'd consider it.
I kind of have to agree with the above poster. Why should we convince you? You are supposed to know what you like and want, not the other way around.
Problem
I really think this should not be a problem
Okay, well scrap this post. Sorry for trying to ask a question that, regardless of what anyone says, a lot of people wanted to ask. Cheers.
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A lot of people want to ask how to make SGS2 Ui more user friendly? I consider it to be one of the most user friendly user interfaces there are. The only one even more user friendly is HTC Sense UI.
It uses the same type of movement as the Iphone does, holding a button a few seconds etc. I love it.
I find the Iphone to be annoying and to closed for it to be comfortable, unless you jailbreak it. Which has been getting harder and harder to do lately. The Iphone 5 is coming soon and there is a large change it will take several weeks before even a small jailbreak is available for that one.
As far as I am aware, the Iphone also lacks Customization, like flashing new firmware or roms etc.
But in the end its just a matter of personal preference and nothing we say can change that. You are the one that needs to feel happy with a phone, if you are not happy with SGS2, then switch to what phone you think will make you happy.
Above post was what I was looking for. Thanks bud
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If I was going to move to the iPhone I'd wait till the iPhone 5 came out.
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Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
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I dont know why you would need convincing from anyone else to keep something that does not meet your expectations or your needs, if you can return the S2 then do so now and get the Iphone and be happy there, its not about what phone you have its about how you area able to use it at its full potential w/o relying on anything else.
I would be happy to give your S2 the loving home it deserves...
yetep said:
Hey folks
I've noticed myself being pulled in more and more by getting an iPhone. Having previously owned a Touch Diamond (WinMo), Xperia X10 and mini then a GS1 and finally this phone, I've owned throughout all this change an iPod touch and also an iPad for the best part.
What I've found is the Apple products seem more... complete. The user experience is significantly more seemless.
Please don't turn this into an "I hate apple so keep the Gs2" thread cause truthfully I hate Apple as a company but what they produce is actually very good.
So, having rooted the phone and flashing custom ROMs, can someone advise tthings I could do to this thing to make it a bit more user friendly? I've had MIUI on it and when it works 100% ill have it on but until then, to prevent me sswapping this for an i4 can you guys advise on mods etc that might make the gs2 experience a bit better?
Regards
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Here is my way to convince you, if you can find a way to Jailbreak iPhone5 with out Comex help or any other 3rd Party help. Just do it yourself than Leeching off Comex. Yea I will say go for it.
If NOT, drop your SGS2 in to the Atlantic Ocean depth to the Abyss, that you can never get it again. Now you got a choice to get iPhone5. Selling it off eBay or Craigslist DO NOT COUNT!!
Or just Love your current SGS2 to the best you can, and ditch the Steve Job Ghetto iPhone5 good bye. Since Ghetto Steve Job left the floor...maybe due to health or something personal who know, Human Made NEWs are all Entertainment to people ears and eyes!!
Indeed, With Comex gone jailbreaking the Iphone 5 (you know they hired him to prevent the jailbreaks on upcoming versions) is going to be a lot harder. In such a case samsungs open approach is much and much better. Thats why i love Android
I had a 3g and a Iphone 4. Never been happier than I am right now with sgs2. I like to tinker with phone and change roms every day. Can't do that with Iphone. Love the screen on this phone, love the speed, very easy to work with. Sgs2 is the best phone on the planet right now in my opinion.
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Seriously??? who cares?? get what you want and then use it. then i figure useless threads like this will die off.
If you mind not having a microSD Slot, great features, flexibility, if you prefer to only scroll icons on a single estate, if you don't like super amoled, you move to iphone
BTW, what the heck do you bring such stupid questions to such a forum. You should know what you want, then seek solutions to what you have in the respective. Forums
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Iphone screen is just too small now its irrelevant. Anything less than 4" screen is so 2010.
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I think you should write down all you can think about the pros and cons of both phones, and weigh what is most important to you. That will put your mind to peace once and for all. For me, the much lighter weight, far less radiation and greater flexibility (e.g. drag & drop rather than itunes) far outweigh any other smartphones.
I don't get the smooth and seamless aspect that I keep hearing about though. I've tried the ipad and have an ipod nano...the devices have limited features and are underwhelming. Perhaps you've read about many "issues" with the SGSII and the need for tweaks to make it perform more smoothly. I do suspect users of android phones--who have done the necessary research--are probably perfectionists in the first place, who scrutinise everything that they own and enjoy the ability to customise the phone to their needs.
Again, above poster. Thank you
Gonna keep hold of it for now, spend ssome time at work tonight figuring out some tweeks etc and go from there.
Those that have been extremely unhelpful, why don't you just not reply?
Anyways, can a mod please lock this thread? Don't see the need for further flaming. Again, the helpful ones, thank you.
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Get an iphone and be a slave of sysstem.
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I am seriously on the verge of bying an any network S3 here in the UK. Just before I make the jump can I ask if :-
1) Is there an app like lockinfo for JB iphones that acts like a today screen, listing all your upcoming appointments, missed calls, messages etc from the lock screen? I am happy to JB the andriod if I can do this.
2) Is there an app that works, to record telephone calls both ways without the beep.
3) I have already had huge responses over the volume hack, thanks everyone.
If I can the the 3, then I will take the jump.
All the best
Mik
London - UK
Yes but best to root for answer phone.
1. Executive assistant for lock screen info
2. Total recall s2 s3 for auto records
Ps swapped iphone 4s for s3 and love it,
Had to buy SwiftKey though for keypad!
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Android can do all that and more. The most valid reason to switch from iPhone is that... it simple sucks more than tim cook on a Saturday night.
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Honestly you should stick to the iPhone. If it does everything you need and has all the apps that you use why bother switching? If it's for faster performance or bigger screen wait for the iPhone 5.
I think you should stick with the iPhone 5.
Your thread is plain dumb.
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mbeaumont said:
I am seriously on the verge of bying an any network S3 here in the UK. Just before I make the jump can I ask if :-
1) Is there an app like lockinfo for JB iphones that acts like a today screen, listing all your upcoming appointments, missed calls, messages etc from the lock screen? I am happy to JB the andriod if I can do this.
2) Is there an app that works, to record telephone calls both ways without the beep.
3) I have already had huge responses over the volume hack, thanks everyone.
If I can the the 3, then I will take the jump.
All the best
Mik
London - UK
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Before all that you have to learn the android terminology , JB here means jelly bean not jail break
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Lol
Good one. :thumbup:
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Yeah I noticed most iPhone users are too dumb to ever learn and love android. iOS is perfect for idiots and grandmas to use. So... I say stick with your icrap last thing we need is to convince another iPhone user to switch.
I tried switching a few iPhone idiots over and I've given up. They always complain how it's so hard to use and blame me for talking them into it, not my fault that using iOS for so long has killed off most of their brain cells.
Thanks everyone
Can I thank everyone for their input, even to those who thought my topic was a dumb. I want a new phone and bored with apple so no dis-respect, I have taken onboard everything said and decided to give the S3 a try. I have the option of returning it so I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
I thought the JB term was hilarious, of course its jelly bean...
Thanks all
Mik
Don't believe the iSheep hype that IOS has more Apps than Android because Android can do anything iPhone can plus anything else you could ever wish, and the only reason IOS has more Apps is all the junk on the App Store that's never even been downloaded once.
Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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mbeaumont said:
Can I thank everyone for their input, even to those who thought my topic was a dumb. I want a new phone and bored with apple so no dis-respect, I have taken onboard everything said and decided to give the S3 a try. I have the option of returning it so I have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
I thought the JB term was hilarious, of course its jelly bean...
Thanks all
Mik
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I traded iPhone 4s for SGS3 and I like it much more. There arent limits like you cant set mp3 for a ring tone or alarm tone etc. Stock SGS3 is more open and adjustable than jailbroken iOS. You can find executive assistant for lockscreen info in Google Play, also there are many apps for call recording..
Here on XDA you will find a lot of helpful infos, so it will be easier to get used on android
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Hiker42 said:
Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch to from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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+1
All types of people no matter what forum you go act like idiots, I mean come on the mans asking for help are you guys that immature that you have to abuse him instead of Helping him? He had the brains to ignore you all and still give it a shot..
Everyone wants to try something different just try your best to help. And if you do not have anything good to say just ignore it. Your all making the Android community look like it's full of douche bags seriously help or ignore them..
Android has all the things you mentioned mate you can get apps for everything you mentioned i hope you give it a try and hopefully you like it..
True, there are fanboys everywhere and its disgusting. But @ OP, you just figured out the matrix, your free now and know the truth! I'm pretty sure whatever you can do on a jail broken iPhone, you can do it on an android phone ( maybe even without root ) so try the S3 and keep it if you like it, if not you can always, return it. Good luck
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Hi Mbeaumont.....Let me share with you my personal experience....I use to have an IPhone 4....and was quite happy with it, till I realized that whenever I want to explore more the OS and make the best out of it....was a real nightmare, no way to play with the system even Jailbroken, the limits are there and the Break of the Jail was only a shadow door to endless issues and tricky sophistications....I'm not blaming Apple for doing that.....I do have all the Apple MacBook serie......but to me if you are an explorer and want to learn more about any device you buy the choice specifically in the mobile market is very obvious.
Since I have bought the S3 back in July......what an amazing experience it is.....this phone and especially this Android OS is a piece of art that will make every single day of your life for passionate people like me.
Finally I quote John Keating in the famous "Dead Poets Society" movie........"There's a time for daring and there's a time for caution, and a wise man understands which is called for."
Hiker42 said:
Sigh. This thread really goes to show how disappointingly immature some Android users are.
Good to see you're thick skinned enough to ignore it.
I mean really... somebody about to switch from iOS to Android and a couple of idiots just want to post abuse?
You're what's wrong with every community. Stop trying to bully people.
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I agree. Being polite costs nothing.
I made the same switch you did, and would not go back. My mother is now happy with the iphone 4 i gifted her, and I won't be leaving android anytime soon. But it's true that the app market is less appetizing on android atm, even if this is changing with time, and the change is speeding up. Yesterday handled the iphone a bit, looked like a kid's toy to me, even if i recon being happy using it all these years. Also the gs3 is HUGE compared to it and takes a little time totake a good grip on.
Geordie Lad said:
Don't believe the iSheep hype that IOS has more Apps than Android because Android can do anything iPhone can plus anything else you could ever wish, and the only reason IOS has more Apps is all the junk on the App Store that's never even been downloaded once.
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kinda agree with thissss
IMO , Android is the best
and SGS3 is the best
though this is my first android phone :silly:
barondebxl said:
Before all that you have to learn the android terminology , JB here means jelly bean not jail break
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LOL..
and not Justin Bieber
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GalaxyS3 was in another level.
To compare with Iphone need GalaxyS1 and not S3.
Enviado de uma GalaxyaS3 far far away
What is the most valuable advantage of android that makes it better than Apple's crap?
Guys, Wasn't it "Removable Battery" and "External Memory" ?
I really dont want to have freaking Energizer with Line connected to N4,
or get OTG connecter which should also plug into USB input to use more space for video,music and many other things.
I'm not that guys who use Google Cloud each time I watch movies, play games with extreme graphic, or read article from googling shi*
by expensive cellular data or non-removable battery(And I(probably most of you) have no patience enough to sit back, waiting for downloading these through fixed WiFi)
If you wanna buy a good, clear screen and high performance and something something.. than you should think about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Yuga which is going to be released soon.
N4 doesn't fit to the "Highest" Performance or Quality,
The advantage being reference phone is already gone
And you guys already know, "The changes from ICS to Jellybean 4.2" is not much improvement
And there's Tizen2.0, and Windows 8 which comes with DirectX and many their own API ;which are great
Tizen2.0 will be released in next year, and it's fully capable to use android apk SAME(performance and something something~)
The demerits using Dalvik is enough to object to many high-end device based on android
The bottom line is very simple.
No sdcard slot, and non-removable battery? Not a iPhone?
No Thanks.
Besides, it's the LG, geez..
PS. Sorry for my bad english.
Then don't buy it...
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Lol
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Creates an account to blast a phone that sold out in minutes, worldwide.
Let's just cut to the chase and close the thread.
Okay that's nice.
Now gtfo from n4 section plox? Kthxbye!
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This was posted in Q&A... so what's the question? All the questions in the OP are either rhetorical or are answered by you, so I don't understand the purpose of this post. Its fine that you have the opinion that the phone is not very good (I would disagree but that my opinion), but there is no need for this rant post really in Q&A. Just clogs things up.
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This was posted in Q&A... so what's the question? All the questions in the OP are either rhetorical or are answered by you, so I don't understand the purpose of this post. Its fine that you have the opinion that the phone is not very good (I would disagree but that my opinion), but there is no need for this rant post really in Q&A. Just clogs things up.
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Sorry it's my fault it was a mistake
OK ... So buy a iPhone dude or buy the DNA and wait 6 months for updates to fix the simplest problems
Sell your nexus to someone here who is dying to have one
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lol he made an account just to post that
LOL so wait... wait a minute.
You actually made and XDA account...
To rant on the Nexus 4...
In the Nexus 4 Forum...
And your telling us that...
We should buy other phones?...
Thats like telling somebody to buy a different house because it doesn't reach YOUR PERSONAL CRITERIA.
We all don't use the same device like YOU dude.
Hop off the forums!
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
Well EXIT stage left then
I think you should go buy an iPhone. You have no idea what Android is, or why we love it!
ImARaptor said:
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
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It's happens every time a phone gets released - People like to *****
It's so nice to everyone have the same (and best) response to the troll and no one trying to argue with him.
Relponent said:
What is the most valuable advantage of android that makes it better than Apple's crap?
Guys, Wasn't it "Removable Battery" and "External Memory" ?
I really dont want to have freaking Energizer with Line connected to N4,
or get OTG connecter which should also plug into USB input to use more space for video,music and many other things.
I'm not that guys who use Google Cloud each time I watch movies, play games with extreme graphic, or read article from googling shi*
by expensive cellular data or non-removable battery(And I(probably most of you) have no patience enough to sit back, waiting for downloading these through fixed WiFi)
If you wanna buy a good, clear screen and high performance and something something.. than you should think about HTC Droid DNA or Sony Yuga which is going to be released soon.
N4 doesn't fit to the "Highest" Performance or Quality,
The advantage being reference phone is already gone
And you guys already know, "The changes from ICS to Jellybean 4.2" is not much improvement
And there's Tizen2.0, and Windows 8 which comes with DirectX and many their own API ;which are great
Tizen2.0 will be released in next year, and it's fully capable to use android apk SAME(performance and something something~)
The demerits using Dalvik is enough to object to many high-end device based on android
The bottom line is very simple.
No sdcard slot, and non-removable battery? Not a iPhone?
No Thanks.
Besides, it's the LG, geez..
PS. Sorry for my bad english.
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1. You have NO idea why we love android.
2. The DNA doesn't have a removable battery or an SD card slot either genius and read any review, the DNA screen is 1080p but its unanimously seen as a worse screen than the screen found on the One X. Good job.
3. THIS phone is awesome BECAUSE "we" don't have to worry about any overlay like Sense or TouchWiz.
4. Insanely cheap OFF contract.
5. Premium feel and hardware (albeit a little z little slippery)
6. Updates DIRECT from Google.
These are why "we" got an N4...now go post in the Note 2 thread and complain how you think its worse than a Palm Pilot.
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I agree wholeheartedly with the opinion voiced in the OP.....
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Said no one ever.
I think I'm going to go ahead and report this thread. It should be closed lol XD
ImARaptor said:
What's up with all this N4 hate recently? I understand people feel the need to go against whatever succeeds, but I got my phone last week and let me be clear for anyone who is having doubts. THIS PHONE IS AMAZING! Beautiful, high quality, packed with features, vanilla android, and ridiculously fast! I could easily waste an hour or so on here typing all about this phone, but I will leave you with that. Have fun XDA! and stop with all the arbitrary negativity. :highfive:
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Because they want to dissuade people from buying it so they have a shot of getting one in the next round.
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I sense butthurt. It's OK.
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Cool story bro
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