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[Q] [kernel] noob help!!

hey? so there is much buzz about fugumod kernel blah blah
so as a noob representing the noob g3 users community [i hope there are some other than me]
my questions:
q1,differnece b/w rom and kernel??
q2,how to use one??
q3,if it overclocks then does it drain battery too fast??
q4,are they stable and safe to use??

clarkkov said:
Hey.
I bought my first Android phone 5 days ago, so I'm a noob too
But I'm a Linux power user.
Kernel is the core of the operating system, it contains drivers, filesystem interfaces and APIs needed by computer hardware to function. Android basixally uses Linux kernel.
ROM is short for read only memory, this is where the kernel and user interface (the pretty menus, homescreens, icons etc.) are installed. The propper name for this would be OS, but on phones people call in ROM, because of the place where it is installed.
Higher clock speeds require more power, more power drains the battery faster.
I havw not tried Fugumod kernels personally, although I am tempted to. It should be safe, but the only way to know that is trough extensive testing. The normal one seems safe, but no OC there.
These are simplified explanations for noobs, there is much more to it, but for gods sake, Im typing this on a 3.2 inch screen!
Sent from the other side
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Pretty much the required anwser, but also dont forget this:
There is still bugs and problems with the OC version of fugumod kernel,cuz its stiil being ported to our phones.
Also only overclocking does not help for performance boost, We need to put JIT and COMPACHE, making more difficult to install if you don't know what are you doing.
Also, according to some user that tested OC, some phones cant be overclocked to 1.3 ghz or less making the task pretty risky...
The best we can do is wait until a custom rom adds this kernel to prove this.

Giosiken said:
Pretty much the required anwser, but also dont forget this:
There is still bugs and problems with the OC version of fugumod kernel,cuz its stiil being ported to our phones.
Also only overclocking does not help for performance boost, We need to put JIT and COMPACHE, making more difficult to install if you don't know what are you doing.
Also, according to some user that tested OC, some phones cant be overclocked to 1.3 ghz or less making the task pretty risky...
The best we can do is wait until a custom rom adds this kernel to prove this.
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So if a custom rom comes with a kernel,i guess it would be easier as flashing a is easy.am i right?or the process would change
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i have a few noob questions too
-to install fugumod 2.2, do I just flash it on top of my kyrillos 3.0?
-what is a fs.convert file and how do I make one?
-and lastly, what is ext4? How does it make it any faster?

eKulzz said:
i have a few noob questions too
-to install fugumod 2.2, do I just flash it on top of my kyrillos 3.0?
-what is a fs.convert file and how do I make one?
-and lastly, what is ext4? How does it make it any faster?
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There is a topic on fugumod. Not the right place to ask but here it is.
-Yes.If everything goes fine no data will be lost.
-It is a plain text file made with Root Explorer or any similar app. Just rename it to fs.convert
-ext4 is a Linux filesystem, just like FAT or NTFS in windows. It is faster than rfs.
sent from my kyrillos' v.3 fugumod 2.2 BE oc'd JIT enabled nokia 3210

Fastest rom to overclock with?

Hey,
I see a lot of people using CM7 is this really the best one?
Also till how many mhz I can overclock on that one?

Yes Cm7 IS really great, in fact you can customize almost everything, and I really like that feature...
As for overclocking you can overclock I think to max of 768mhz(if I'm wrong somebody please correct me)...maybe you can a little bit more but I think it is kernel related...
Hope it helps,
Best regards
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Irrespective of which ROM you choose, it is the kernel which allows (or disallows) you from Overclocking. Till date, there are 2 primary kernels which are available - HCDR.Kernel by Jacob and nFinity by arco, and both OC support upto 768MHz. (I think Deep-Knight has recently developed a new kernel for his ROM, which allows OC upto 600MHz)
Because of this, you can overclock your stock ROM also, if you so wish, by simply flashing a custom kernel.

3xeno said:
Irrespective of which ROM you choose, it is the kernel which allows (or disallows) you from Overclocking. Till date, there are 2 primary kernels which are available - HCDR.Kernel by Jacob and nFinity by arco, and both OC support upto 768MHz. (I think Deep-Knight has recently developed a new kernel for his ROM, which allows OC upto 600MHz)
Because of this, you can overclock your stock ROM also, if you so wish, by simply flashing a custom kernel.
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Hi!
Which kernels can I use for original rom, if I want to overclock? HCDR, or Deep, or what? It will make the phone instable, or not?
Thank You!

zigee said:
Hi!
Which kernels can I use for original rom, if I want to overclock? HCDR, or Deep, or what? It will make the phone instable, or not?
Thank You!
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You can use any. nFinity MC4 offers more features though, like Smartass Governor. It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301
Else, you can use HCDR Kernel also, if you wish, and decide for yourself which suits you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798471
It shouldn't make the phone unstable at all. But, in any case, make a Nandroid Backup beforehand.

Thank You

Well M using hell fire .. Cm7 based ....
Which is stable till 729 Mhz overclock m using max 729 and min 490 (I guess)
Phone is Much faster than before and love playing angry birds

I read all the 2 posts, but Im not sure to change the original slow kernel, for a faster. All have some bugs, battery life, wifi, etc...
I dont know, which could be better for the stock rom, or which could be better than the original.
Anyway, I want to try one of that, but I dont know which.
How can I flash just the kernel? And also back up my programs with titanium, or mybackup?
It clears everything like the rom flashing?

Ok, I made it, its cool, and faster. Thanks for the help.

is the overclocking "app" in standard cm7? Or i must go to market or anything else to download it?

Adria1234 said:
is the overclocking "app" in standard cm7? Or i must go to market or anything else to download it?
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Its standard, under Settings > Cyanogenmod Settings > Performance Settings.

[NEED] Testers for my rom[DONE]

Testers needed for my new rom who can give me reviews in all aspect,my rom is gb based 2.3.7 with xperia s look large number of ram eating apps been removed for good gaming and if people are fed up of xperia s look then i will add a flashable zip of ics look as an addon because i will launch the rom with xperia s look only.And each and every addons and apps will be added as addons for this rom.Give me reviews about gaming performance use doomkernel v14 and oc your upto what suits best.
I would pm the link to first four person who reply to this thread according to order.No screenshots will be added for now i will reveal it when i will make a thread for the rom
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ROM WILL JOIN DEVELOPMENT THREAD SOON
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CHEERS
:laugh:

techdevilisnowmonster said:
Testers needed for my new rom who can give me reviews in all aspect,my rom is gb based 2.3.7 with xperia s look large number of ram eating apps been removed for good gaming and if people are fed up of xperia s look then i will add a flashable zip of ics look as an addon because i will launch the rom with xperia s look only.And each and every addons and apps will be added as addons for this rom.Give me reviews about gaming performance use doomkernel v14 and oc your upto what suits best.
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ready and waiting to test techdevil

I am ready too...
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app

everything works flawlessly very smooth with great battery life the best xperia s Rom I have tried. this is going to be my daily driver running on 2.3.4 stock kernel. amazing work op keep up the good work
game performance on stock kernel is very good, running dead trigger on ultra high with very little lag exellent rom
have been running this Rom for half a day and its very stable just as stable as stock no bugs found so far

No.4

useless comment, sick! Can try the rom too
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app

just would like to say that if this is based on another rom like Gin2JB or TrueAncenstor then make sure you have permission to use their rom as a base.

fma965 said:
just would like to say that if this is based on another rom like Gin2JB or TrueAncenstor then make sure you have permission to use their rom as a base.
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its based on nxt series by kris dee and i have full permission of him and let me tell you one thing all these roms such as gin2jb or true ancestor have same base,just different theme.

techdevilisnowmonster said:
its based on nxt series by kris dee and i have full permission of him and let me tell you one thing all these roms such as gin2jb or true ancestor have same base,just different theme.
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well no they don't as for a start they are different android versions.
gin2jb = 2.3.4
trueancenstor = 2.3.7
so how can they be same base

fma965 said:
well no they don't as for a start they are different android versions.
gin2jb = 2.3.4
trueancenstor = 2.3.7
so how can they be same base
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its just be editing build.prop i can change my version to whatever i want like android 5.0 key lime pie,its just simple to do so

I would pick this over any stock based rom gin2j was laggy as hell for me so were the rest, when you try this Rom take it from me it's a great Rom the best for performance on stock kernel imo great job op

techdevilisnowmonster said:
its just be editing build.prop i can change my version to whatever i want like android 5.0 key lime pie,its just simple to do so
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I feel sorry for you then, as if you really believe that then you shouldn't be developing a rom. 2.3.7 and 2.3.4 have different files not just a build.prop edit.

dude cut the guy some slack, he's trying to be helpful by developing a promising ROM.. you were the first one to fire up with sarcasm in the first place..

narflynn619 said:
dude cut the guy some slack, he's trying to be helpful by developing a promising ROM.. you were the first one to fire up with sarcasm in the first place..
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No, Dont get me wrong i am not trying to be disrepectful just saying that what he said is wrong, good luck with the rom.

Okay.

I have been using this Rom all day and never had any issues what so ever. I think it's an exellent Rom in which I will be keeping everything is smooth and quick with v6, thank you op for such a quality rom

It is just a build.prop edit they used!
I checked the files
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nickholtus said:
It is just a build.prop edit they used!
I checked the files
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Really? well why bother build.prop editing then?

hi there
1st great work on rom would love to give it a go as there is'nt much choice on modded GB roms now and im hoping this will be the 1 for me.
that's if i can i find it!!
please can you provide link
thanks will get back as asap
one more thing have you tested transferring large (2gb) files? only reason i ask is im using gin2jb / stock and have this problem where the phone reboots mid transfer tried on win xp fails but works on win 7

106 ioneyeer
i would also like to try your rom.. Im currently using true ancestor for stock roms.

331MB of free ram

the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine_Extreme (Beta)

extremetempz said:
the title says it all see if anyone can beat that screenshots below to anyone that dosent believe me rom+ kernel is
NXT GAMING+DX_Engine (Beta)
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THATS AWSOME!:good:
Whats your Benchmark and how much are you overclocking?

Wao is fantastic:laugh:

WTF!?!?!
Sent from my CyberDroid

How much stuff did you delete? Because the most I've gotten while it still being a working phone with gapps and everything is 310mb.

its not the rom its the kernel

extremetempz said:
its not the rom its the kernel
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So is this a new kernel that is in "testing" and is not released yet? Because doing a search only brought up DiXperia ROM, so guessing DikeJ is working on a kernel, perhaps?
If this kernel is available can you be kind enough to post a link for it?
Edit - scratch that, the only thing I find is an X10 kernel... so going to venture DikeJ is working on porting it to our Xperia PLAY.. as I know he does work on teh X10 as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345327
This says its a JB kernel, but is this a GB kernel as well?

I'm working on this kernel for DikeJ and his set of dixperia ROMs and I don't have any plans to upload it till DikeJ ask me to
edit: there will be a kernel for each android ROM DikeJ Makes this kernel is for dixperia perennial

Will the kernel work on r800x too?

chick3n564 said:
Will the kernel work on r800x too?
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Possibly since its based on Lupus Kernel I should be able to work something out

That's awesome but when it's ready and dike j says you can upload do you think you can make two versions work one of them having als disabled. My phone als is broken so unless Als is disabled at kernel level it won't work. Sorry if it's too much to ask but if you can do that I'll be very grateful
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)

Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?

Spatinator said:
Could you be able to do this with ICS/JB kernels too?
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yeah I will you won't get 330 mb free ram though

Hail the King @extremetempz and @DiKeJ who are gonna build awesome Kernel + ROM for the R800x

But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?

Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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The 90mb RAM is for the Kernel, not for GPU/3D Rendering - That is done using system RAM.

There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .

Spatinator said:
But if you give the system, kernel etc. 420mbs of ram, there's only about 90mbs for the gpu/3d rendering(?) left. Wouldn't that cause lag in games?
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games should actually run smoother because I've doubled the vram 4mb vs 8m
Edit: if anyone can extract lupus v12 ramdisk because it keeps Chucking errors at me please pm me asap as I need to extract to put the WiFi modules in and change a few things

well i have extracted it its using another format for ramdisk(bot the normal gzip)
i dont have the link i used to know how to extract but if you search a bit you will find it
(i dont have the extracted ramdisk because i have deleted my compiler machine from virtualbox)

DiKeJ said:
There will be 4 main Kernels from DXEngine:
-2 for X10 (GB and JB)
-2 for Play (GB and ICS/JB)
But it's not over, cause each main project will have other version with other destination - for example with some features disabled, but better in performance etc. etc. Justin (@extremetempz) is main Kernel Developer for my ROM projects so all credits goes to him - I focused on ROMs to make it best stable and settled with Kernels - trust me, it should do the job .
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Awesome. Hey DikeJ I hope you and extremetempz dont me offering to beta test this kernel for you. I am on GB currently debloated stock on Lupus Kernel v12. Would love to test out this kernel if you wanted to have someone test it out. Either way I am excited to see this new kernel whether I beta test it or not.
Thank you both of you for your hard work and efforts to keep our little device humming along.

Overclock GPU/CPU

Hi
I wanna overclock somehow this phone, mainly cuz it's capable of alot, but huawei decided tot underclock everything. I made 2 pictures about some script lines, if i change the cpumaxprofile and gpumaxprofile value, that make it flashable zip, everything can be allright, or i need to change other values too?
http://imgur.com/a/FB7c0 - stock
http://imgur.com/a/cM3HD - modified(only gpu to 500,working well, but I want cpu to 1.3 and GPU to 533)
Maybe it is cappable even at 533mhz, but I will pus it only to that value if it will be stable, at stock voltage etc. http://imgur.com/a/TlJaS
If everything goes well, i will publish a zip for it.
Or can someone modify it? I can upload the zip with 500MHz modified if you want...

Upload photos to imgur, not to a porn site

Audriuskins said:
Upload photos to imgur, not to a porn site
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done

Audriuskins said:
Upload photos to imgur, not to a porn site
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D1stRU3T0R said:
done
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Wait, what?! ? Where did you upload it to?
I'm going to try around tomorrow.

Vinnipinni said:
Wait, what?! Where did you upload it to?
I'm going to try around tomorrow.
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Was uploaded on kepfeltoltes.eu :d you want the zip files for this?
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/655953/Kirin 620 Fix.zip
Another porn zip file host.

D1stRU3T0R said:
Was uploaded on kepfeltoltes.eu :d you want the zip files for this?
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/655953/Kirin 620 Fix.zip
Another porn zip file host.
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Ok will try around. In a serious note, why wouldn't you just use GDrive, Dropbox, mediafire, etc.?

Vinnipinni said:
Ok will try around. In a serious note, why wouldn't you just use GDrive, Dropbox, mediafire, etc.?
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I wanted to use the fastest method for me, I was in faceit, didn't had much time

Great job! When you will post the zip?
I can't wait to make my phone a hand warmer with a ton of benchmarks!

XTutorials said:
Great job! When you will post the zip?
I can't wait to make my phone a hand warmer with a ton of benchmarks!
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http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/655953/Kirin 620 Fix.zip
Flash the FIX zip
Here it is, it's a stable 500MHz patch from 450,i guess.
Later wanna test even higher values, 3dmark score are 57xx (5726 max if I remember correctly)

D1stRU3T0R said:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/655953/Kirin 620 Fix.zip
Flash the FIX zip
Here it is, it's a stable 500MHz patch from 450,i guess.
Later wanna test even higher values, 3dmark score are 57xx (5726 max if I remember correctly)
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This patch does overclock the CPU too, no?

Also, this patch works on emui 4.0?

XTutorials said:
This patch does overclock the CPU too, no?
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Sadly, no... Only GPU patch. I'm not sure about the CPU 'limit' and this is why FOR now I don't wanna look at it
Yes, it works on emui 4, even emui 4.0.3,even on sokkoban roms

This thread is very intersting, why don't you put in in the General or Android Development forums?
But still, I want CPU overclock so muchchhchc
P.S. I think I am sure about this, and if you overclock the CPU too much the voltages it would be too high and the CPU will fry, no? Or it will heat very much?
And now I remeber my older question: Does the GPU heat up more if I install this patch?

This mod doesn't overclock your GPU...500MHz is already available for scaling if you see gpufreq file in /sys/ folder..
This mod only makes use of it on more places ....Almost all places....
You too can configure it independently on basis of your needs......It can't overclock your device...
Maybe a custom kernel can

HaiderHady said:
This mod doesn't overclock your GPU...500MHz is already available for scaling if you see gpufreq file in /sys/ folder..
This mod only makes use of it on more places ....Almost all places....
You too can configure it independently on basis of your needs......It can't overclock your device...
Maybe a custom kernel can
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Indeed. Playing with this file is not going to help you to achieve a higher frequency than 1.2GHz for the CPU or 500MHz for the GPU, it's actually harder than that, and even if you overclocked it, it wouldn't suppose a big difference.

@XePeleato finally you're here This zip, as you can know, just "unlock" the "locked" mhz from huawei... Maybe you can make an "overclock" version for GPU/CPU ? We would all like it, for the new rom, B596...
"As you can see, even 3DMark detects that my score is higher than the average, try to beat that with stock kernel!"
Challenge Accepted, Stock kernel, 5738 Ice Storm ....

With sokkoban v2 rom , stock kernel and no GPU overclock .

D1stRU3T0R said:
@XePeleato finally you're here This zip, as you can know, just "unlock" the "locked" mhz from huawei... Maybe you can make an "overclock" version for GPU/CPU ? We would all like it, for the new rom, B596...
"As you can see, even 3DMark detects that my score is higher than the average, try to beat that with stock kernel!"
Challenge Accepted, Stock kernel, 5738 Ice Storm ....
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It didn't......Unlock the locked ....
I think it was from B584 when huawei white listed this app 3dmark and some other benchmark apps to use 500Mhz GPU and 1200Mhz CPU.......See through the stock files thoroughly and you'll get it... here is the screen shot BTW from stock normal_cpu_policy in system/etc/
And yes overclocking might not be possible with EMUI......maybe with lineage OS ......as in emui these things are locked in an image called mcuimage and that isn't....According to my knowledge even possible to change....even with Custom kernel....If XePeleato does it.....That would be a miracle

HaiderHady said:
It didn't......Unlock the locked ....
I think it was from B584 when huawei white listed this app 3dmark and some other benchmark apps to use 500Mhz GPU and 1200Mhz CPU.......See through the stock files thoroughly and you'll get it... here is the screen shot BTW from stock normal_cpu_policy in system/etc/
And yes overclocking might not be possible with EMUI......maybe with lineage OS ......as in emui these things are locked in an image called mcuimage and that isn't....According to my knowledge even possible to change....even with Custom kernel....If XePeleato does it.....That would be a miracle
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I actually seen that, but I wanted to have 500MHz even in 3d games, or 2d,if I play one...

D1stRU3T0R said:
I actually seen that, but I wanted to have 500MHz even in 3d games, or 2d,if I play one...
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Anyways....Enjoy ?