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IS T-Mobile HAVING A HARD TIME....keeping up with technological advancements. Why would T-Mobile release the G2 with 800MHz, it should at least be the first 1.5 Ghz device? I understand that not everyone wants a high end device but with all of us early G1 adopters, moving to N1 or Mytouch devices you would think G2 would be the next generation WOW device. T-Mobile please try and stay ahead of the curve. Your plans, HSPA+, and (Google partnership) 1st Android phone has kept you competing with the BIG 3. You have to make sure your devices aren't obsolete before the are even released (Garmin Phone). Even if you form partnerships (HTC, Garmin, Motorola), you should encourage your partners to use the voices of the forums (XDA, T-mobile, etc.) to see what the early adopters want. The forums are the voices of the buyers. You have lost early G1 buyers to other carriers because you aren't staying ahead of technology. I'm a T-Mobile fan for life where else can you have 3 smart phones with unlimited everything 3g speeds for under $180.00. But I want to be able to buy a smart phone that paint my toenails cyanogen JK!
Most of us are changing phones every six months, because we want the latest greatest thing. We are not going to downgrade to G2 we need a phone that will draw us especially if we know Gingerbread will be warm for Christmas.
G1, MyTouch 3g, Nexus 1. Newest Cyanogen. XDA lurker
I think 800mhz is fine (doesn’t the iphone4 run at 800mhz)? Ive never had any speed issues with my nexus at 1ghz and would underclock it for more battery life... The overall usability of the device is more important than the cpu clockspeed... Ie I think the original droid with 500-600mhz cpu did better in some benchmarks than the nexus/hd2 at 1ghz because it had a better gpu.
I think it's an underclocked 1GHz Snapdragon so, Set CPU?
T-Mobile has more than 1 high-end HTC Phone on the horizon.
There's more where this is coming from. Patience, my friend.
You have specs on the g2?
This is all pure speculation until T-Mobile announces the actual hardware. Depending on the CPU/GPU used, clock speed might not be a reflection of actual performance. Much like Intel and AMD chips, it is no longer about pure MHz but efficiency and performance per clock cycle.
T-Mobile is the smallest nationwide carrier, so remember their development/operating budget might not be as drastic as the other 3 major players. This of course partially dictates how many OEMs they can seduce into producing a particular kind of phone for them. I understand T-Mobile needs awesome phones to attract new subscribers, but at the same time (unless it is an iPhone) it will be the quality of the network and pricing that will make people stick around.
I find it very had to believe that tmobile would allow their HSPA+ launch phone would not have a 1ghz snapdragon. Plus where have you gotten those specs from
While we're on the topic of rumors-
any of you heard the speculation surrounding that HTC Glacier?
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While we're on the topic of rumors-
any of you heard the speculation surrounding that HTC Glacier?
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yeah, its rumored to have a low clocked i7, and come pre-installed with Crysis 2.
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yeah, its rumored to have a low clocked i7, and come pre-installed with Crysis 2.
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I heard it makes a delicious chicken parmesan too.
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I heard it makes a delicious chicken parmesan too.
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Only on wifi
LOL
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I want something massive with a keyboard maybe Evo with keyboard, I would be in love. I'm thinking about jumping carriers though, it was between Sprint and Verizon but Verizon's plan are more expensive and sprint has 4g in my area. T-mobile just received 3g in my area and I don't even hit 1mbps. I wanna go to sprint to get Evo or Epic but I'm more of a HTC fan I have a little hatred for Samsung. I just have to pay off the myTouch on my line and by then the G2 will be out and maybe myTouch HD. If they don't seem nice I'm going to Sprint
here is a link
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-Mobile-G2-phone-p_4839.html
"The information for this phone is PRELIMINARY and could be incomplete or inaccurate."
Is that even possible?
Hummingbird Chipset
My guess would be that the Samsung Hummingbird chipset only supports 7.2 Mbps. Same as with the GSM Galaxy S series handsets.
many reasons why it may not be there. but you still get up to 7.2Mbps down which is very good.
Whoa your totally the 1st person to notice this and post about it......
To me, it doesn't matter. I live in a HSPA+ area and have never even come close to getting 7.2Mbps on a G2. Let alone HSPA+ speeds.
How many networks actually support those speeds anyways ?? I mean in reality not on paper. Besides, 7Mbps is enough for all mobile needs, a youtube 720p HD video averages around 2Mbps which is the highest bandwidth consuming task I can think of. Unless you are planning to tether it to a laptop and download huge files, which IMO is not a requirement for many users, since mobile data is pretty expensive.
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Whoa your totally the 1st person to notice this and post about it......
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lol Anyways whats the big deal. 99% person of the world is not on 4G yet
I know we wanted everything from this phone but its not to be
I don't care since in my country we don't even have 4G so that would be completely useless.
But I understand entirely you're complaining about it, they're expected to make progress not regression(but that's technology, constructers choose what we will get...).
It's true "4G" isn't prominent right now. I'm guessing the disappointment comes when you try to see Nexus S as a phone into 2011, and beyond. Dropping $529 dollars for a phone that won't be taking advantage of "4G" speeds which all carriers are moving toward and pushing for, and which handsets are already featuring, doesn't seem future-proof, and maybe even a step back. It doesn't live up to the Nexus branding.
Agreed. I've decided to stay with my Samsung Epic (which has a bad ESN that I bought for $300 and I am using as an Android touch), and wait it out. When phones that come out that are compare to the Galaxy S as how the Nexus One overshadowed the Hero, I'll probably upgrade. Not then ... it's not worth selling my current phone.
I just read that the LG Optimus 2x with dual core is coming out in March, and apparently for Tmobile. It will most likely be 4G also.
This makes my new Nexus S seem outdated already. Man I really like the phone but the fact that it doesnt support 4G was already a big hit for me, but I still got it. I didnt realize how much it really affected me until the other day I was talking with a friend who has an Evo and hes "let's see if this face time app works". I said sure, and connected to the my wifi signal, so we're trying to connect and he's like "man, connect to the 4g signal maybe its faster".
At that moment I couldn't open my mouth to say that my new phone which i dropped over $500 for, couldn't connect to 4g. I just played it off and changed topics.
Anyways that was my small rant, I'm sure others feel the same.
LG OPTIMUS currently has:
TEGRA 2
HDMI Mirroring
4 INCH WVGA Display
8gb Internal
MicroSD Slot
8MP camera
front facing camera
DLNA out of the box
With CES right around the corner, I'm glad I have 30 days to return the Nexus S.
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I feel the same way as you. Im not going to say its a bad phone but we all had such high expectations. Who knows maybe LG might make the next NEXUS. I switched from my N1 because that was already starting go get me mad. I use to hate my brothers Vibrant because the screen was so amazing. So my Pros overpower the Cons so ill stick to it. Maybe when the new LG comes out ill jump on it, but i HATE branded phones. loaded with a bunch of crap i don't need.
Already threads open about this. Android is also not optimized yet for dual core, so have fun with utilizing only one core.
thepoetvd776 said:
I just read that the LG Optimus 2x with dual core is coming out in March, and apparently for Tmobile. It will most likely be 4G also.
This makes my new Nexus S seem outdated already. Man I really like the phone but the fact that it doesnt support 4G was already a big hit for me, but I still got it. I didnt realize how much it really affected me until the other day I was talking with a friend who has an Evo and hes "let's see if this face time app works". I said sure, and connected to the my wifi signal, so we're trying to connect and he's like "man, connect to the 4g signal maybe its faster".
At that moment I couldn't open my mouth to say that my new phone which i dropped over $500 for, couldn't connect to 4g. I just played it off and changed topics.
Anyways that was my small rant, I'm sure others feel the same.
LG OPTIMUS currently has:
TEGRA 2
HDMI Mirroring
4 INCH WVGA Display
8gb Internal
MicroSD Slot
8MP camera
front facing camera
DLNA out of the box
With CES right around the corner, I'm glad I have 30 days to return the Nexus S.
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i agree with most but now the negatives.
- no community support " really, who buys an LG phone here? "
- its 2.2, they promised 2.3 which will probably be ****ty just like 2.2 on Galaxy S
- for sure no Android 3.0
- its an LG phone. how many times i have to say it ?
in paper, the Lg 2X is amazing. will i buy one ? probably i will. i think think the nexus S is a disspointment in terms of power
its not a bad phone. its just a galaxy S with better software " no rfs bull**** " and support by google. so android 3.0 is coming
plus. its a 3 months away. you could always buy the nexus S and sell it later if that phone is better. BUT if you already have nexus 1 or newer, then yeah dont spend money on nexus S
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Already threads open about this. Android is also not optimized yet for dual core, so have fun with utilizing only one core.
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please dont post bull****. thank you and good bye
I suspect the shipped units will have kernels that're set up just fine.
Also just because LG doesn't have a big dev following yet, doesn't mean it wont when this comes out. This could be the thing that starts it off for them.
I seriously thought about waiting for the LG phone, primarily because of the Tegra2 and the 8MP camera. There was one major reason I didn't wait:
Straight Google Experience.
I am sick and tired of waiting for months on end for manufacturers and carriers to update the OS. And I'm tired of wondering if a manufacturer will update an OS for a phone at all.
Sure, the developers here on XDA are amazing, but they still need hardware drivers from the manufacturers to work their magic.
I just wanted to know that I was going to have a phone that Google supported.
Dudes-
It's not like you didn't know the specs before buying the thing. LOL.
Seriously, some of the design decisions on the phone are mind-boggling (no AT&T support like the Vibrant has, no "4G" support, no external sdcard, etc), but we knew these decisions before purchasing.
Personally, I love Galaxy S phones, and this is the best looking, best fitting in my hand of the lot, but I'd been using an i9000 on AT&T and in the areas of Los AngelesI frequent, the AT&T service is better overall than T-Mo. If the phone were 4G, I'd put up with the poorer coverage of T-Mo, but as is, the T-Mo service has me 50/50 on keeping the phone or not.
I have to disagree with the above comment that if you have a Nexus One this upgrade doesn't make sense. The much superior 4" SAMOLED vs. the 3.7" AMOLED screen is reason enough to dump the N1 for the NS, especially if you spend any time in the sunlight. The vastly superior multi-touch touch screen of the NS is also reason enough to switch, IMHO.
To each his own, though.
I wouldn't worry about it cause we all know that t-mobile doesn't have 4g, It's just hspa+. And even though the nexus s doesn't support it, you still can see slightly increased speeds simply because the network backhaul is increased so that the full 7.2Mbps is achieved on the nexus s. Nexus s owners are already reporting actual download speeds near 6Mbps. Don't you think that is fast enough for video calls fast enough to future proof this phone for at least the next year?
4G technology doesn't exist yet period. Not on T-mobile, not on Sprint, not on Verzion.
Is "4G" (HSPA+) even available in your area?
Better specs don't necessarily equate to a better phone, you might feel like it's outdated only a few months later. I say stick with your Nexus S for at least a year and see what's out then
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I wouldn't worry about it cause we all know that t-mobile doesn't have 4g, It's just hspa+. And even though the nexus s doesn't support it, you still can see slightly increased speeds simply because the network backhaul is increased so that the full 7.2Mbps is achieved on the nexus s. Nexus s owners are already reporting actual download speeds near 6Mbps. Don't you think that is fast enough for video calls fast enough to future proof this phone for at least the next year?
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HSPA+, 4G, whatever you want to call it...4G is just a marketing term and geeks can debate what it is and isn't, but that doesn't change the fact that there are two different networks in T-Mo's arsenal now (HSPA and HSPA+) and that one of them is capable of significantly higher speeds than the other. The 4G/not-4G talk is pointless.
I haven't done a lot of testing with the NS and data speeds yet; haven't had a chance with work so busy right now. I think I got around 3000Kb/s the other day, which is respectable.
I'm in Los Angeles, and we have the HSPA+ upgrade in my local area.
Near the Van Nuys airport, where I spend most of my away-from-wifi time, my Nexus One was getting a consistent 4000Kb/s, but I've never seen more than 4400 or so. Pretty impressive, but nowhere near the 6-7.2Mb/s. Also not nearly so impressive when I consider that my iPhone 4 and Galaxy S i9000 both get consistent 3000Kb/s speeds on AT&T.
3000-4000Kb/s really is fast enough for most uses, but when the network's newest phones are offering speeds 50-100% faster and then release a "flagship device" as people are calling the NS, it's a bit disappointing to not be part of the fastest crowd.
As I mentioned above, the lack of HSPA+ isn't a deal breaker for me, but the T-Mo service in general makes this a much less attractive phone for me as my primary device. My N1 had been relegated to wifi-hotspot/tethering-the-laptop duties since last July.
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HSPA+, 4G, whatever you want to call it...4G is just a marketing term and geeks can debate what it is and isn't, but that doesn't change the fact that there are two different networks in T-Mo's arsenal now (HSPA and HSPA+) and that one of them is capable of significantly higher speeds than the other. The 4G/not-4G talk is pointless.
I haven't done a lot of testing with the NS and data speeds yet; haven't had a chance with work so busy right now. I think I got around 3000Kb/s the other day, which is respectable.
I'm in Los Angeles, and we have the HSPA+ upgrade in my local area.
Near the Van Nuys airport, where I spend most of my away-from-wifi time, my Nexus One was getting a consistent 4000Kb/s, but I've never seen more than 4400 or so. Pretty impressive, but nowhere near the 6-7.2Mb/s. Also not nearly so impressive when I consider that my iPhone 4 and Galaxy S i9000 both get consistent 3000Kb/s speeds on AT&T.
3000-4000Kb/s really is fast enough for most uses, but when the network's newest phones are offering speeds 50-100% faster and then release a "flagship device" as people are calling the NS, it's a bit disappointing to not be part of the fastest crowd.
As I mentioned above, the lack of HSPA+ isn't a deal breaker for me, but the T-Mo service in general makes this a much less attractive phone for me as my primary device. My N1 had been relegated to wifi-hotspot/tethering-the-laptop duties since last July.
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I second that. And pple keep talking about this tegra 2 crap what really are you gonna use dual core for? I mean lets be senseful here? With Gingerbread this phone is already fast and and pretty much polished. Tegra 2 is probably gonna be a battery hog. And this phone is gonna be full of LG/TMO bloatware, and no support at all its gonna be atuck at 2.3 for ever. That's 'IF' it even releases on 2.3. Anf Honestly who wants an LG phone c'mon now. Return your phone and you shall regret. Trust me the Nexus S is sold out pretty much everywhere when u return it and try to change ur mind to get it again its gonna be gone.. And I know thats gonna happen
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4G technology doesn't exist yet period. Not on T-mobile, not on Sprint, not on Verzion.
Is "4G" (HSPA+) even available in your area?
Better specs don't necessarily equate to a better phone, you might feel like it's outdated only a few months later. I say stick with your Nexus S for at least a year and see what's out then
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I live 10 mins away from NYC so 4G is in my area. I understand completely what everyone else here is saying but I'm just thinking that with all these potential dual core devices coming out, that makes the Nexus S not future proof regardless of Google's support or not. This will also make the resale value drop gradually compared to the original Nexus which was a BEAST of a phone when it came out, and still hangs with the best now.
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I live 10 mins away from NYC so 4G is in my area. I understand completely what everyone else here is saying but I'm just thinking that with all these potential dual core devices coming out, that makes the Nexus S not future proof regardless of Google's support or not. This will also make the resale value drop gradually compared to the original Nexus which was a BEAST of a phone when it came out, and still hangs with the best now.
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So let me ask you something. Are dual core phones gonna drop the iPhone 4 value as well? I mean its gonna be single core for a while chances are the next one will STILL be single core.
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.. Man I really like the phone but the fact that it doesnt support 4G was already a big hit for me, but I still got it. I didnt realize how much it really affected me until the other day I was talking with a friend who has an Evo and hes "let's see if this face time app works". I said sure, and connected to the my wifi signal, so we're trying to connect and he's like "man, connect to the 4g signal maybe its faster"...
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Oooo the great "4G" lol
Haven't people watch the dogfight of Nexus S vs MyTouch 4G where they compare speed test side by side in a HSPA+ coverage area? And guess what, the greatest "4G" came slower than the out of date "slower" 3G, not only once but all three consecutive tests.
10:45 http://www.phonedog.com/videos/google-nexus-s-vs-mytouch-4g-dogfight-pt-2/
So whats the big deal everyone is dying for 4G? This reminds me of the Iphone4 vs HTC Evo video lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
I hardly even get 2 megabits where I live.If you're area had HSPA+ its capped at what 6.5 isnt that enough for video chat?Also he had sprint maybe better coverage where you were and had nothing to do with 4g
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Oooo the great "4G" lol
Haven't people watch the dogfight of Nexus S vs MyTouch 4G where they compare speed test side by side in a HSPA+ coverage area? And guess what, the greatest "4G" came slower than the out of date "slower" 3G, not only once but all three consecutive tests.
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One guy's results, in one location, really don't make the NS the clear winner. On top of that, they're hardly conclusive...less than 100Kb/s difference on 2/3, only 2Kb/s on one of them. LOL
All cellular/wireless experiences are just like real estate...location, location, location is all that matters. The guy even says he's not getting full HSPA+ service for some reason in his location for the last few days.
Take both phones to a confirmed working HSPA+ location and test again, multiple times at different times of the day and against different servers if you really want to prove/disprove the theory here.
The problem is this; there will be a newer and more powerful handset released every X number of months.
The Nexus S is a great phone that has pros and cons just like all the other leading Android phones.
If you fall into upgrading/swapping for every newer piece of hardware that drops you will be spending a great deal of cash and will never truly be content.
It's always give and take. I will give up "4G" and a dual core CPU for quicker updates and a pure Android experience. The hardware is still top notch.
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The problem is this; there will be a newer and more powerful handset released every X number of months.
The Nexus S is a great phone that has pros and cons just like all the other leading Android phones.
If you fall into upgrading/swapping for every newer piece of hardware that drops you will be spending a great deal of cash and will never truly be content.
It's always give and take. I will give up "4G" and a dual core CPU for quicker updates and a pure Android experience. The hardware is still top notch.
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EXACTLY.....& T-MOBILE 3G coverage is not even everywhere yet so what makes them think 4G will be everywhere in the next few months??
Might as well never get a phone then, since new phones come out every month or two, you'll end up waiting forever.
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One guy's results, in one location, really don't make the NS the clear winner. On top of that, they're hardly conclusive...less than 100Kb/s difference on 2/3, only 2Kb/s on one of them. LOL
All cellular/wireless experiences are just like real estate...location, location, location is all that matters. The guy even says he's not getting full HSPA+ service for some reason in his location for the last few days.
Take both phones to a confirmed working HSPA+ location and test again, multiple times at different times of the day and against different servers if you really want to prove/disprove the theory here.
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- I can tell you for sure 80% of cities with HSPA+ you will get the same speed on a non HSPA+ device. If the OP is not even getting a good 3G how can he get a good HSPA+.
- That will be 2 guys test. The second one is me. I had the G2 ("4G") and I tested its speed in Miami, FL (definitely HSPA+ area) and there was no difference at ALL, different times, different locations.
- I'm sure there are places where HSPA+ is a lot faster but thats the minority. If HSPA+ in my were was much faster, sure I will mind, but it is not.
can someone please explain to me whats the Hype with the Htc Thunderbolt? isnt it basically a Evo with a bump in Ram and Verizon suppose Lte Network? More or less what we have had with the evo for a while now.?
Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
It's hyped because verizon is finally getting something to compete with us
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
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Yeah it is but is the same evo just redesign more like evo 1.5
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Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is an ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is a ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Well that only matters if you care about sense, but it's been suggested [and is completely realistic] that the Evo/Evo Shift will be getting the new sense.
As far as the core it's pretty much the same exact one as in the Evo Shift except instead of clocked at 800 mhz it's clocked at 1GHZ.
So, at best, it's an extremely minor spec bump from the Evo Shift.
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Um... why couldn't an 800mhz core get it too??
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That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Well the extra MHz doesn't really give u update as Google said it they never put how much you CPU has to be to run gingerbread 800GHz should be more then enough , it all depends on HTC and Sprint
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People seem to be in denial that the Evo isnt the best phone on the market anymore. And honestly the LTE alone was enough to make me switch. If you want to see the huge differences, look at the benchmark comparisons on youtube between the thunderbolt and the evo. It's not even remotely close.
Thunderbolt has a fatter kickstand and they put a larger speaker behind the kickstand. Pretty neat.
The HTC Thunderbolt (ADR6400 codename "Scorpion or Mecha") will be the first 4G LTE smartphone on Verizon Wireless. It is a CDMA variant of the HTC Desire HD. It was first announced at CES on January 6, 2011. This phone is to be considered the flagship phone for Verizon, going head to head with the HTC EVO.
In addition to 4G service, the Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
You can run gingerbread on your phone clocked down to 250 MHz. Animations will be choppy but it'll run just fine. So all this B.S. about mhz is b.s.
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Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
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orly?
10char
To be fair, simultaneous voice and data over 3G will be possible with Sprint as well. Verizon just happened to drop a phone that will use it first. The chipset wasn't ready when EVO was in production.Inspire 4G and HTC Thunderbolt is of the same cloth, but a minor spec to the EVO Shift, which is a carbon copy of the G2? That's just inviting the flames. Verizon's answer to the EVO was the Droid X, not the TB. People don't understand how long the EVO was being worked on by HTC and Sprint. It was a true flagship. HTC Pyramid is a true flagship, so keep your eyes on it at CTIA.
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?
my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.
Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.
As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance
The I9250 just passed through the FCC as a pentaband phone with both T-Mo's AWS bands and ATT's bands.
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/08/samsung-nexus-prime-gt-i9250-passes-through-fcc-with-t-mobileatt-bands/
This is my next upgrade path if it comes to fruition; so here's to hoping.
What about the rest of you?
You didn't look at the FCC sheet did you.
IT IS MISSING the 2100 frequency band...aka...T-Mobile 3G/4G WILL NOT WORK. This phone is not a T-mobile-banded device. At best it is the international version...maybe AT&T's one as second best but not T-Mobile's. Sadly I don't think we're getting this awesomeness for some time still. Sucks.
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You didn't look at the FCC sheet did you.
IT IS MISSING the 2100 frequency band...aka...T-Mobile 3G/4G WILL NOT WORK. This phone is not a T-mobile-banded device. At best it is the international version...maybe AT&T's one as second best but not T-Mobile's. Sadly I don't think we're getting this awesomeness for some time still. Sucks.
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You are mistaken. The FCC does not need / can't test the 2100 Mhz band as those frequencies are used for the downlink i.e. the tower is emitting and the phone is only receiving. The phone emits RF energy on the 1700 band since this frequency band is used for the uplink in the AWS-1 spec. The FCC is checking to make sure the RF emissions from the phone conform to regulations so they test 1700Mhz and don't care about 2100Mhz as far as the phone is concerned. mmmkay? This is not a phone spec-sheet, it is simply the FCC test results.
The phone shown on that FCC summary WILL MOST DEFINITELY support full t-mo 3G and ATT's as well. It's similar to many of the recent Nokia phones in that respect.
Wow hats off to you because I totally forgot about that. FCC really can't/doesn't need to test downlinks. Yay for new T-Mobile nexus then haha?
it wont be coming to tmobil for awhile guys! as its a v exclusive first, sorry
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You are mistaken. The FCC does not need / can't test the 2100 Mhz band as those frequencies are used for the downlink i.e. the tower is emitting and the phone is only receiving. The phone emits RF energy on the 1700 band since this frequency band is used for the uplink in the AWS-1 spec. The FCC is checking to make sure the RF emissions from the phone conform to regulations so they test 1700Mhz and don't care about 2100Mhz as far as the phone is concerned. mmmkay? This is not a phone spec-sheet, it is simply the FCC test results.
The phone shown on that FCC summary WILL MOST DEFINITELY support full t-mo 3G and ATT's as well. It's similar to many of the recent Nokia phones in that respect.
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Thanks for the info.. After reading the other guy's post, It was like the end of the world, thanks for giving us hope! LOL..
this is how I was before the Galaxy s came out, I'm excited about something again! LoL
One thing has me worried about the Nexus Prime, the size!
It is nearly 4.7 inches. Maybe possible to still keep the phone small since the buttons are built into the OS/screen, untill I saw the leaked videous. If the phone in the leaked videos is really the next Nexus, it is HUGE and has a bunch of wasted Bezel space at the bottom. Size alone is a huge factor, I can't carry around a huge phone.
Look at the dimensions from the FCC.
124 by 68mm.
For comparison the vibrant is 122 by 64mm.
The nexus IS BARELY bigger than the Vibrant. I'd say the size is perfect. The lack of those physical buttons apparently really makes a difference.
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Look at the dimensions from the FCC.
124 by 68mm.
For comparison the vibrant is 122 by 64mm.
The nexus IS BARELY bigger than the Vibrant. I'd say the size is perfect. The lack of those physical buttons apparently really makes a difference.
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Thanks, I guess that huge black area of the bezel on the bottom on the videos is misleading if those dimensions you stated are accurate.
Gosh I want this phone, release it already! It better come to T-Mobile and not months from now! How much do you think it will cost at full retail without a contract? I hope not more than 500.
On a side note, if it uses the same PowerVR SGX540 as our Vibrant, that goes to show that our Vibrant still has a lot of power, at least in the GPU area. Nexus should have used a better GPU, but it's ok!
For those who still don't know how Bands work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
FCC tests only US bands for US market. So they always skip IMT Band (2100) even though it is present on the phone.
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Cant wait about it..
http://news.punchjump.com/2011/10/08/samsung-nexus-prime-final-specs-deploy-in-new-report/
5Mp Camera? Not 8?
1.2 Dual core not 1.5?
1,750 mAh battery? Thought it was supp to be in the 2000?
Is this true?
Google, please let me pre-order this phone NOW.
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http://news.punchjump.com/2011/10/08/samsung-nexus-prime-final-specs-deploy-in-new-report/
5Mp Camera? Not 8?
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Does it really matter? can you see the difference?
It is a phone camera, don't expect real 8MP from an 8 MP phone camera. I mean even those compact cameras sensors are very small (little finger nail-size) and you can't compare their pictures quality with the ones from SLRs.
To me, 3MP is enough, more than that is a waste of storage space for a photo that is taken by a camera phone. My previous Vibrant camera had always been set to 4MP (Wide mode).
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http://news.punchjump.com/2011/10/08/samsung-nexus-prime-final-specs-deploy-in-new-report/
5Mp Camera? Not 8?
1.2 Dual core not 1.5?
1,750 mAh battery? Thought it was supp to be in the 2000?
Is this true?
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That's coming from BGR's old rumors... Newer rumors say otherwise. Either way I don't see why people get their panties in a knot without any official word. Anyone could, potentially, release rumors of whatever they wanted.
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That's coming from BGR's old rumors... Newer rumors say otherwise. Either way I don't see why people get their panties in a knot without any official word. Anyone could, potentially, release rumors of whatever they wanted.
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Yeah it seemed weird, but it was dated OCT 8...didn't make much sense seeing as the Amaze has -the better ones- those specs and that phone is days away from launch...
And no I cannot tell the difference between 5-8MP couldn't care less...point is android phones come out with the newest hardware..always...so it seemed strange to have a camera that uses 2 year old technology is all...
Verizon version is supposed to have lower specifications than GSM version.
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Yeah it seemed weird, but it was dated OCT 8...didn't make much sense seeing as the Amaze has -the better ones- those specs and that phone is days away from launch...
And no I cannot tell the difference between 5-8MP couldn't care less...point is android phones come out with the newest hardware..always...so it seemed strange to have a camera that uses 2 year old technology is all...
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I might have not stated it too clearly but I found an article talking about how other articles are just digging up the rumors from the BGR article from forever ago.
Maybe that article was just optimistic and thinks the other ones were wrong, maybe it was right and the other ones were wrong. I am waiting until the phone is announced and Google (or the manufacturer) tells me what the specs are. I have no requirement to decide right now what I want to buy.
i'm pretty stoked, i thought about the Hercules, then was like hell i'll grab a gsm version of the sgsII HD then bam find out the Nexus Prime is a Boosted version of the SgsII HD, with stock android 4.0... can't beat that, straight ota updates from google, no twiddling my thumbs hoping my phone gets updates before my TV does. actually now that i think about it my samsung TV has gotten more Network updates then my Vibrant lol.
also who needs a 8 MP camera? anyone here gonna print out Billboards? that resolution seems silly. 5mp with a better lens and hardware is more then acceptable for a phone. you want to do true to life digital photography for business get Nikon, Sony, etc. Digital SLR.
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last i checked it was a dual mode phone, capable of both CDMA/LTE and GSM/HSPA very similar to the Verizon Droid bionic, sim slot for travel and cdma here on VZ's networks
also as far as specs and Rumor's go i find GSMarena/Phonescoop to be the best two sites for updates and near accurate information.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php
camparison between SGSII HD and Nexus Prime
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=4198
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i'm pretty stoked, i thought about the Hercules, then was like hell i'll grab a gsm version of the sgsII HD then bam find out the Nexus Prime is a Boosted version of the SgsII HD, with stock android 4.0... can't beat that, straight ota updates from google, no twiddling my thumbs hoping my phone gets updates before my TV does. actually now that i think about it my samsung TV has gotten more Network updates then my Vibrant lol.
also who needs a 8 MP camera? anyone here gonna print out Billboards? that resolution seems silly. 5mp with a better lens and hardware is more then acceptable for a phone. you want to do true to life digital photography for business get Nikon, Sony, etc. Digital SLR.
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last i checked it was a dual mode phone, capable of both CDMA/LTE and GSM/HSPA very similar to the Verizon Droid bionic, sim slot for travel and cdma here on VZ's networks
also as far as specs and Rumor's go i find GSMarena/Phonescoop to be the best two sites for updates and near accurate information.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_galaxy_nexus_i9250-4219.php
camparison between SGSII HD and Nexus Prime
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=4198
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wait, Verizons Droid Bionic has a sim card slot for GSM? It works with T-MObiles 3g bands?