[Q] Why is Stock rooted so much smoother than CM7? - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've found that stock 1.3 rooted is a lot smoother in scrolling animations and such... Will CM7 ever attain this smoothness? Yes, i have tried both overclocked at 1.2-1.3 ghz

What version of CM7? Was it an SD card install?
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I've noticed the opposite, as long as cm7 doesn't have too many apps installed.
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What sd card where you using? Not all are made the same.

I've used 7.0.3, 7.1RC1, and nightlies between around 140-165. All emmc

I don't deal with stock so can't tell how smoothness it is but it's a good sign.
If you like rooted stock ROM then go ahead and use it.

I like CM7, but I like the smoothness of stock. The bad thing is the missing features
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I have the same problem. My theory is that CM7 is just missing hardware acceleration on the nook at this time (I think I remember reading this somewhere). Maybe a driver issue?

I thought they had that worked out in the first stable release? Maybe that was just video acceleration
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Video is fixed, but that my be a different part of the driver.
(This is entirely speculation on my part, based on my somewhat sporadic - and decidedly incomplete - knowlage.) My guess: there are 3 parts to the video "card" driver. 2D hardware, 3D hardware, and coprocessor functions. When they fixed video, they probably got the coprocessor functions working, but not the 2D or 3D hardware.
There is a good chance I am wrong, so correct me if you know.
On a side note, why cant CM7 use the video driver from the stock FW? It's still a Linux kernel underneath so shouldn't the drivers work, or am I missing something completely?

That makes some sense, but games(at least angry birds haha) work okay... So I dont know.
On using the kernel from stock: they probably can't use the stock kernel, because stock is based on Froyo, and CM7 is Gingerbread

AceBlade258 said:
On a side note, why cant CM7 use the video driver from the stock FW? It's still a Linux kernel underneath so shouldn't the drivers work, or am I missing something completely?
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Almost none of the stock rom is open source. I'm pretty sure the stock video driver was never released.
On the topic of smoothness:
I have found CM7 to be much smoother than stock. It probably just depends on your set up.
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koopakid08 said:
Almost none of the stock rom is open source. I'm pretty sure the stock video driver was never released.
On the topic of smoothness:
I have found CM7 to be much smoother than stock. It probably just depends on your set up.
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What's your set-up?

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What's your set-up?
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Latest Nightly
OC'd to 1.2 on demand gov.
V6 super charger script (helps a ton)
About 70 apps
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koopakid08 said:
Latest Nightly
OC'd to 1.2 on demand gov.
V6 super charger script (helps a ton)
About 70 apps
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I just installed 203, and its definitely faster. its nice to be using cm7 again. I missed the status bar. Its quite a bit smoother than the last time I used it. I can also see all apps in the market now, which is sooo nice

Everything is running great, except for the YouTube app. It isn't working for me on nightly 202 or 203

Can you post a link to this V6 super charger script?
Thanks!

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Can you post a link to this V6 super charger script?
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
It's pretty advanced, just so you know.

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[Q] Choppiness on notification pulldown

any way to make it smoother like it was on 6.1 ? it was bugging me since cm7 was released.
its MUCH smoother with latest kernel.
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If you want cm7 i prefer for you for now #18 release. It is working on old kernel but IT WORK... I'm using this release but i flashed kernel 4.1 you should too. The new kernel is amazing fast and smooth but is still bootloop and we must weit.
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Im using RC2 with 4.2 kernel,but the notification bar is still laggish/choppy.
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Im using RC2 with 4.2 kernel,but the notification bar is still laggish/choppy.
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i meant arco's new kernel, not hcdr.kernel
nhnt11 said:
i meant arco's new kernel, not hcdr.kernel
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can u possibly link me?
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can u possibly link me?
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i dont have a flashable version of it, but it's included in the latest nightlies (but be careful, if you dont follow instructions in the thread you may bootloop - nightly #25 seems to be your best bet)
i dont think choppiness went away with #21 and later. im using smartass governor and still pretty laggy. not close to cm6 or sense pulldowns. i wonder if other devices with cm7 has this issue?
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i dont think choppiness went away with #21 and later. im using smartass governor and still pretty laggy. not close to cm6 or sense pulldowns. i wonder if other devices with cm7 has this issue?
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well its waaaay smoother than before for me, i dunno why its choppy for you.
ive watched some videos on youtube with other devices pulldowns on cm7 and only wildfire seems to have this problem. maybe its related to lack of gpu or armv6 cpu i dont know.
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well its waaaay smoother than before for me, i dunno why its choppy for you.
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can you take a quick video of your pulldown animation if you have a camera i really doubt its smooth as i think.
here's a vid:http://www.mediafire.com/?3e17kzqy21754pk
Sorry its sort of big for like 30 seconds but i recorded with my ipod nano, and considering that its a VGA recording of a QVGA screen and that the point of it is the smoothness, i didn't want to sacrifice quality any more.
yea its slightly better on your device can you tell me your performance settings and cpu speeds?
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yea its slightly better on your device can you tell me your performance settings and cpu speeds?
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JIT on, surface dithering on..
cpu is at 691/264 smartass, although i get the same smoothness on 518/264 ondemand as well. BTW, its actually a little smoother than it is in the video.
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Thor's ROM's

Is anyone using Thor ROM v12? I know many folks use his kernel. Wondering how his ROMs rate before I flash and reinstall everything
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I have been using them for a while now and they are very fast and stable.
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
i use them also and no complaints here.
Do you know if they are hulu enabled? Not a big deal but that's a real plus for Civato's excellent mix ROM
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Yes they come with no flash reinstalled so you can install a hulufied flash....some games don't work because the build.prop sets the tablet as the eee pad
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His roms (including v12) are faster than any of the others I've tried. I really have no idea why that is, but I've definitely got no complaints. Plus v12 is themed to look similar to ICS for Tablets.
Best by far. OCd to 1400 with no reboots, no crashes.
Wonder how long before the lock comes...
I guess I'm the lone dissenting voice here. I tried V11 and I found it to be much laggier than Light speed.
Which overclock governor do you use? Also is 1400 significantly decreasing your battery life? stock is pretty fast.
I installed hulu enabled flash from titanium works great.
So far so good
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Yeah, I really like the ICS look he put on v12
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I'm using the v12, and it works really well! I didn't know honeycomb could be this good. lol One thing I'm having problem with is that I only have 155~250 mb of free ram. On other roms, with about the same amount of apps installed, and not much open, I have about 350~400 mb free, but this rom is weird.. Any advice please?
hrmmm man i need to stop reading these forums ... got me downloading v12 now to try out!
In the past week i've gone: Stock 3.0.1 -> Lightspeed -> Near Stock 3.2 -> Taboonay -> Lightspeed and now looks like i'll be adding thor to that list too haha.. Getting sick of re-installing apps
Wow! Just installed thor rom v12 and gotta say .. none of the other roms have been this quick & smooth straight off the bat.. haven't installed or changed anything yet, but first impression is good ... app drawer, stock apps, switching home screens, etc seems very fast & smooth..
Thor 12
Wonderful. It is heavier in size to download as compared to light speed but after installing and putting same amount of apks its almost the same size on storage search. Wish they could just put a different skin on the browser.
I like thor rom,i go to testing V12
I also do my ikonia use of either the v12 does not work well but the browser crashes FC. but everything else was perfect thank thor now I'm back on v11
Fastest ROM on the A500. Would be even better if build.prop was for iconia and mot the epad IMO.
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ive been running V12 for the past few days running a 1.6GHZ overclock stable as can be. It runs smooth a butter, I've found my everyday driver.
I have noticed that it eats up battery a bit faster than other Roms but I use setcpu to manage clock speeds and all is well.
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hav0c said:
Fastest ROM on the A500. Would be even better if build.prop was for iconia and mot the epad IMO.
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In the dev section there is a thread with a custom build prop for V12 that makes the tab an Acer instead of an eeepad at the cost of one or two Asus apps not working.
Want to share your setcpu settings?
Do you have a link to that build.prop? I could not find anything. What's the harm in using the Asus one?
using Thor's last kernel and rom, OV at 1336: stable and snappy

[ICS]Favorite ICS rom and kernel combo, post it plz :)

Hi all!
What is your opinion about the ICS rom you use along with your kernel?
PLease write which rom you use and wich kernel.
Thanks!
PS: I use GummyNex 0.6.5 @[email protected]@lulzactive
smoothest rom ever!
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Rite now its the mexican last name 1..... butt I really wanna try another 1 yo.
Kernel is Franco but this thing reboots a lot after I flashed it.
I'm a pretty gay *****. but I'm 100% straight. I know I'm so straight that I call gay myself. And that's why I'm #BASED. #SWAG. -Lil B. @lilbthebasedgod
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You meam vhgomez? Ns4g? And the old 2.6 ics kernel?
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thegtfusion said:
You meam vhgomez? Ns4g? And the old 2.6 ics kernel?
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Yeee. Yee...n0,
I'm a pretty gay *****. but I'm 100% straight. I know I'm so straight that I call gay myself. And that's why I'm #BASED. #SWAG. -Lil B. @lilbthebasedgod
usually cm9 or cm9 kangs as my rom.
now the kernel is the tricky part. its almost always Trinity, but i can use 3 or 4(or more) different versions of trinity in a day. teuv is usually my while-im-at-work kernel, but i can be using t11, t132, or t144 at any given point in the day. sometimes all of them in a day. t144 is usually the kernel i like to use when im playing around. what i like about them is that they work as intended. they are all bare bone kernels(ics versions) therefore dont contain any mods that we've all gotten used to. but that also means that the trinity kernels dont contain any introduced bugs either(that many kernels wrestle with). i know ive not really explained anything, it is what it is
simms22 = only CM rom + Trinity kernel!
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nexusphone_user said:
simms22 = only CM rom + Trinity kernel!
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99.999% of the time trinity. theres that .001% when its not trinity.
oh, and i ran the stock/rooted ics rom for about 3 weeks, it was nice
A CM9 .01 or whatever the heck it is. Kernel just using the one that came with it
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I hate ice cream sandwiches. I'm lactose intolerant and my bum makes me regret eating them every time.
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They hav a pill for that
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lol
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I'm using kangs8 ics with eugene kernel speedy5. my favourite combo so far!
I'm using HAKA's KANGY v8 atm, pretty nice I have to say, occasional bug whilst flashing, but probably down to TWRP than anything.
I'm normally running Eugene's speedy kernel, fast, smooth and stable, the right balance of them all. Quite like the Matr1x as well.
I'm using Peter Alfonso's ICS with his stock kernel,no problems so far,the best ics rom out there !
Peter Alfonso is the way to go! to me he had the best GB rom and his ICS nightlies are nothing short
http://download.peteralfonso.com/
I'm using the latest CM9 kang + trinity t11 and it's smooth for me.
I'm using the Virtuous Quattro ICS RC2 ROM
Advanced Info shows kernel version as:
[email protected] #2
The only issue I have come across which is quite annoying is most videos are extremely laggy- this is irritating because its how I overcome my commute to and from work. For example the opening video sequence for Asphalt 6 HD is extremely laggy but the game plays flawlessly! I have a coupe of avi files on my device as well and they have the same problem. Sound is fine...
Apart from this everything so far functions flawlessly.
I've been using KANGY8 and SPEEDY5 up to now its been the smoothest with no reboots. Rom is butter smooth and that kernal is just crazy stable and fast. Best so far and I've flashed so many rom and kernal combinations.
I'm using AOSP+ rom with Steve Garon's kernel. I actually downclocked to 800Mhz and it gives me better battery life and it is smooth enough.
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AOSP+ with Speedy-5, it's awesome.
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I tried the new cm9 with matrix 14.5 and it was not stable for me. Then I tried the new gummy nexus and that rebooted every time as well lol.
AKOP 19 with any kernel or cm9 rc0 with glados have been my best combos
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Hi, currently my i9023 is installed with stock ICS (ROM and kernel) and frankly, I'm quite satisfied with the performance. The battery performance is, I think, comparable with that of the stock gingerbread.
But now I'm looking for custom kernel to make battery performance even better. Do you guys have any experience what is the most suitable kernel for stock ICS, especially in battery performance area? With so many options to choose for (matr1x, kangs, eugene, and the list goes on and on... ), sometimes it can get confusing ....

Quickest But Stable Roms

I am currently running Andromadus Mimicry, but I have found it to be quite slow. Has anyone experienced any quick, but stable roms.
Thanks
Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
biohazrd51 said:
Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Thanks, I ran CM7 for a while, but found it quite slow and laggy on my g2. I was just wondering if anyone had found any quick ICS roms.
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If you find Andromadus Mimicry and CM7.2 too slow, than I’m afraid you need a new phone
Minicry might not be 100% stable, but it is pretty close. I think the ICS (or JB) would not be significantly faster even with official HTC kernel (without hacks).
You can overclock your phone and try different governors. This way you can improve the “smoothness” at a cost of battery life. Also be sure you are running ext4 filesystem. And a fast SD card may help too, check if it is at least class 8.
Mimicry flies for me at 1.5ghz
Andromadus test builds with JellyBean are the fastest of all I've tested so far (cm7.*, cm9.*, MIUI, stock sense ROMs etc.). There are some bugs however (in latest build - #71 - for example camera stopped working), but speed, smoothness, and all JB-related-features of this ROM are really outstanding. I believe, that all annoying bugs will be smashed really soon and my G2 will last until new nexus comes out.
Ilwt cm7 #1
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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kbeezie said:
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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masterleron said:
Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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Sounds like you got a bit more than just rom choice for your problem, I've had neither of those issues (could even do 1500mhz if I wanted without a problem).
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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masterleron said:
Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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Well, it certinaly worked. It took a little longer than expected, I forgot to make a backup . The phone is a lot faster, with no slowdown periods. The only issue I have is mentioned here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842347
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lTWL. Fast stable. And battery life is amazing!
How about sense roms?
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I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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How about sense roms?
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Sense beyond 2.1/3.5(gingerbread) generally speaking is too much bloat for desirez/g2, sense 4.0A would be fine cept its been worsen and slowed down with the 3.0 kernel for sake of a working camera. The full sense 4.0 they took the kernel from is slow to the point of practically unusable on our devices.
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Azianmunk said:
I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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Jelly bean still has a bit of work to put into, but there are plenty of fast ICS roms (non-sense) out there with "functional" camera app (post-gb its mainly the camera people complain about)
I've found for me, ICS to be quicker/smoother than stock or CM7.2.
Regarding apps (while I don't condone piracy) titanium backup would be the solution, assuming said apps are compatible with ICS.
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If you want sense, flash sense 4.0 by geneysense it thinks the name. And then use romcleaner and flash after you flash rom and its smmoooth
Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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masterleron said:
Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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PS: "CM9" by Jerl is not CM9 Official (ie: it didn't come from the cyanogenmod people), it's just bout the same (if not worse in my opinion) than Mimicry which is based off Andromadus which is based off Cyanogenmod 9's source. Though if you do try Jerl's port of it, I strongly advise you not to use the 3.0 kernel, too many problems with it and he apparently didn't bother testing it before releasing it (or least didn't bother to tell people the risk).
Far as google account syncing, it depends on whether or not you made sure to flash google apps afterwards, and if you accidently booted prior to flashing it, then you need to make sure to remove all your accounts on the phone then re-add them as it says in the OP of that thread.

Battery Life/Temp When Running ICS

Recently rooted my phone and have used a number of different ROMs. The ICS ROMs for this phone seem to heat up my battery and drain it quite quickly. GB ROMs don't seem to do that. Is that the nature of ICS for the Glacier?
I'm just wondering what other users' experiences with ICS are.
Thanks.
Its a known issue with ROMs that have the 3.0 kernel. I know that the devs are looking into a solution AFAIK no eta yet.
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Its a known issue with ROMs that have the 3.0 kernel. I know that the devs are looking into a solution AFAIK no eta yet.
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He said ICS, we don't have any ICS roms with 3.0 kernel (because we would have to re engineer the rom.)
To answer the OP's question, i haven't been on gingerbread for a long time, i don't have a problem with ICS, check your clock speed, your governor and your battery. What rom are you on? And are you sure its not JB?
I was using Glacier_One_V_1.3. Sorry, I'm a noob at the whole kernel/governor thing so any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
For now, I ended up switching to Skytouch (the i06 port to myTouch) as my ROM.
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He said ICS, we don't have any ICS roms with 3.0 kernel (because we would have to re engineer the rom.)
To answer the OP's question, i haven't been on gingerbread for a long time, i don't have a problem with ICS, check your clock speed, your governor and your battery. What rom are you on? And are you sure its not JB?
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So, after doing some research, I downloaded System Tuner and changed the Governor to Smartass V2 with a High Threshold of 1.02Ghz and a low of 245Ghz. I'm going to see if that improves my battery life.
Bass_Man25 said:
So, after doing some research, I downloaded System Tuner and changed the Governor to Smartass V2 with a High Threshold of 1.02Ghz and a low of 245Ghz. I'm going to see if that improves my battery life.
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Make a screen off profile, i don't know if the app you got can do that. I have SETcpu...
Smart ass doesn't need screen off profiles right
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Smart ass doesn't need screen off profiles right
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That's my understanding and experience, yes
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Bass_Man25 said:
Recently rooted my phone and have used a number of different ROMs. The ICS ROMs for this phone seem to heat up my battery and drain it quite quickly. GB ROMs don't seem to do that. Is that the nature of ICS for the Glacier?
I'm just wondering what other users' experiences with ICS are.
Thanks.
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I'm very happy with battery life when I use Synthetic.Nightmare's SyNthetic_aospX 1.0.0-MR1SG. Is it as good as CyanogenMod 7.1? Hard to say, but possibly not. Haven't noticed anything in terms of heating, though. Newb, so not sure about kernels (except as they relate to linear transformations) but I think I have to be using aosp(x) kernel with that ROM...
My two cents
I am using Glacier_One_V_1.3, very happy with it. waiting for a new kernel about to be released.. and I am sure it'll solve a few issues maybe flickering screen/flipping lock screen and maybe the heating problems. Who knows
Battery life is good for me. yet thinking of getting an alternative battery. Maybe it'll get less hotter.

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