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[Q] Why is Stock rooted so much smoother than CM7?

I've found that stock 1.3 rooted is a lot smoother in scrolling animations and such... Will CM7 ever attain this smoothness? Yes, i have tried both overclocked at 1.2-1.3 ghz

What version of CM7? Was it an SD card install?
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I've noticed the opposite, as long as cm7 doesn't have too many apps installed.
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What sd card where you using? Not all are made the same.

I've used 7.0.3, 7.1RC1, and nightlies between around 140-165. All emmc

I don't deal with stock so can't tell how smoothness it is but it's a good sign.
If you like rooted stock ROM then go ahead and use it.

I like CM7, but I like the smoothness of stock. The bad thing is the missing features
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I have the same problem. My theory is that CM7 is just missing hardware acceleration on the nook at this time (I think I remember reading this somewhere). Maybe a driver issue?

I thought they had that worked out in the first stable release? Maybe that was just video acceleration
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Video is fixed, but that my be a different part of the driver.
(This is entirely speculation on my part, based on my somewhat sporadic - and decidedly incomplete - knowlage.) My guess: there are 3 parts to the video "card" driver. 2D hardware, 3D hardware, and coprocessor functions. When they fixed video, they probably got the coprocessor functions working, but not the 2D or 3D hardware.
There is a good chance I am wrong, so correct me if you know.
On a side note, why cant CM7 use the video driver from the stock FW? It's still a Linux kernel underneath so shouldn't the drivers work, or am I missing something completely?

That makes some sense, but games(at least angry birds haha) work okay... So I dont know.
On using the kernel from stock: they probably can't use the stock kernel, because stock is based on Froyo, and CM7 is Gingerbread

AceBlade258 said:
On a side note, why cant CM7 use the video driver from the stock FW? It's still a Linux kernel underneath so shouldn't the drivers work, or am I missing something completely?
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Almost none of the stock rom is open source. I'm pretty sure the stock video driver was never released.
On the topic of smoothness:
I have found CM7 to be much smoother than stock. It probably just depends on your set up.
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koopakid08 said:
Almost none of the stock rom is open source. I'm pretty sure the stock video driver was never released.
On the topic of smoothness:
I have found CM7 to be much smoother than stock. It probably just depends on your set up.
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What's your set-up?

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What's your set-up?
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Latest Nightly
OC'd to 1.2 on demand gov.
V6 super charger script (helps a ton)
About 70 apps
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koopakid08 said:
Latest Nightly
OC'd to 1.2 on demand gov.
V6 super charger script (helps a ton)
About 70 apps
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I just installed 203, and its definitely faster. its nice to be using cm7 again. I missed the status bar. Its quite a bit smoother than the last time I used it. I can also see all apps in the market now, which is sooo nice

Everything is running great, except for the YouTube app. It isn't working for me on nightly 202 or 203

Can you post a link to this V6 super charger script?
Thanks!

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Can you post a link to this V6 super charger script?
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
It's pretty advanced, just so you know.

Neutrino vs Darkside

I know its all personnel preference. But what rom is better. I'm looking for that happy medium for smooth performance with GREAT battery life. I am already running cm7 bat whatever its its alright. I have no need for webtop. HDMI mirrioring would be cool of it was landscape and was stable. And wireless hot spot and working gps is a must. Just wanting to flash something new and stick with it tired of dashing different things and having to set up my phone again any help will greatly be appreciated
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I've noticed 15-18% better battery on Darkside than that on cm7 and I used to get great battery on that one so go figure
Plus, all works here pretty smoothly.
Here's a shot of what I'm talkin about
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If your looking for speed go with Neutrino. Honestly its by far the fastest rom I have ever used. Battery is great, and the creator is very helpful with any problems you have.
Highly recommended!!

I have yet to be disappointed with darkside was playing around with miui for awhile. probably go to that once development is further along but back to darkside for now
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Wow.. I'm on neutrino 1.4s ee, and am lucky to get 3 hours of screen time. That pic it's from darkside? Any special setup for you?
Edit- referencing Abu
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I've bin on DarkSide since version 2.0
Love it so far
right now on 4.4 lite version.
Although with all the cool stuff added on to the newer version it seems just a bit slower to me then back when i was on 2.xxx versions, but they are worth it.
still much better then anything stock though. (maybe it's just me, maybe it's not slower, or maybe it's just my phone, I don't know...)
big thanks to Nottach for such a great work and his time!

fischwrap said:
Wow.. I'm on neutrino 1.4s ee, and am lucky to get 3 hours of screen time. That pic it's from darkside? Any special setup for you?
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Not really. Other than the stock moto theme I've changed nthn.
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Hi all,
i use both, jumping from Neutrino to DarkSide & vice-versa via Nand-BackUp (and trying also others).
Neutrino is so smooth, fast and battery +/- the same as DarkSide.
Anyway i've found the DarkSide surprisingly similar about performance. Then mind that if you like to use WebTop or LapDock ROMs based on CM7 as Neutrino haven't these features.

I like Neutrino but it is more like pre-beta stage to me. It takes too much tweaking to get it to act normal. Currently on darkside 2.8 using landscape hdmi support
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I always keep coming back to DarkSide 4.2 Lite
It's been pretty stable, fast and has all the bells and whistles I need (specially Webtop and Fingerprint Scanner).
I'm hoping that some day I could stick with MIUI once it matures enough, I'm willing to let go my Webtop as long as I can use HDMI Landscape Mirror with my Lapdock.

Miui alpha 3. Best battery life on my atrix out of any custom rom. Only thing is, porn doesn't load from the browser, and games have to be played on silent.
Besides that it's gold.

Magnetox said:
Miui alpha 3. Best battery life on my atrix out of any custom rom. Only thing is, porn doesn't load from the browser, and games have to be played on silent.
Besides that it's gold.
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Porn is a flash issue yo.. revert to 10.3
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Roflmao porn you guys are hilarious miui just has trouble in the browser aspect as well can't wait to see it closer to finished
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The Darkside, the best based motoblur. Neutrino, the best ROM. Neutrino is smooth, CM7 based with MIUI camera.

Just flashed neutrino 1.4 some time back. I think the battery is draining rather fast. But i'll let it stick for another week before I go back to Darkside. Motoblur still has a lot of my contacts which won't show up when I install any of the cm7 based roms .

Between Darkside and cm7 I feel Darkside had rather significantly battery life. However, the customizability of cm7 may be worth the sacrifice. To each his own, pick your favorite.
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Porn on the phone is just not the same. But I hate the silence on my Siri clone apps.
Running MIUI Alpha

Hi I have been running neutrino 1.4s ee for week prior to that cm 7.1. I think neutrino has been quicker generally but it is very stripped down so by the time you have added things back to it think it then seems to have slowed up a bit. Boot is very quick, but my GPS doesn't work. I think they're trying to fix in next update. Quite a few fc's too. Tempted to try darkside soon though.
Edit. And I just had my first random reboot! But for some reason I prefer it to cm...
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[Q] What rom to use?

I've been using my kindle fire with stock firmware since launch. I think it is time to root this guy and throw an awesome rom onto it. I've been browsing the dev section for a while and can't make up my mind with what rom to put on first. Any suggestions? I would prefer an ICS/CM9 rom. I like playing games a lot, and not sure if this matters. Thanks in advance!

I have been using CM7 Barebones and having no issues with any games. Everytime I put an ICS Rom on I run into problems with some games freezing (probably due to lack of HWA) and end up coming back to Barebones.
Good luck!
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Barebones
How is the battery life compare to stock?
Thanks
Luis

KnappyRoot said:
I have been using CM7 Barebones and having no issues with any games. Everytime I put an ICS Rom on I run into problems with some games freezing (probably due to lack of HWA) and end up coming back to Barebones.
Good luck!
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Thanks! I'll check it out. I threw on CM9 Energy, rom last night. Pretty cool but games are kind of a 50/50 chance of working. I really dig the ICS interface though. I'll check out barebones!

donutdude246 said:
Thanks! I'll check it out. I threw on CM9 Energy, rom last night. Pretty cool but games are kind of a 50/50 chance of working. I really dig the ICS interface though. I'll check out barebones!
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I know what you mean by the ICS interface. Its ten times better than the gingerbread interface. I personally use biteblazes cm9 reloaded v1.1 and I over clock my kernel using the Daemon Controller provided to these settings: 80000 min 1300000 Max with the governor set to on demand. With these settings the rom runs exceptional with the exception of hwa. I can play every game that I have tried so far without a SOD or a FC occurring. Let me know how this works for you if you give it a try
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I like CM7..It runs so smooth.. Have had no crashes on games and battery life is great. Last me about 8-9 hours and I use it alot.
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GB MIUI!

I think a great dev should take the old GB MIUI's and create an up to date working release of GB MIUI because its so much faster than v4 for the EVO. Like they could soup it up with ram tweaks, update the apps, add there own twists, and create a stable version of GB MIUI with working apn's and gps. It would be a great rom for the community that loves MIUI.

All that worked fine in the last version of MIUI ICS by Swiper that I ran

With my experience with ics and v4 is that its kind of sluggish. I'm talking about a gingerbread version where everything works because not everything works in ics and v4.
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The only thing that didn't work was FFC. Everything else was fine, and it wasn't sluggish.

Well for me the keyboard experiences lag and the time it takes to switch apps or start one is very slow. Also just scrolling screens is laggy. I've just always experienced this lag when running an ics rom.
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Swiperrat's gb miui 2.3.2 b1 es is top notch. In fact I'm pretty sure hipkat has it in his dev host link in his sig.

Yeah I downloaded it and I'm running it now
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For the ICS probs you had, were you running any mods?? For me CoD tweaks are a must and using ROM Toolbox to disable almost everything from startup is important, too

Nope never ran any mods. Just wiped, flashed, and tested.
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Dude, that's like buying a new computer and just turning it on. You have to tweak things.

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For the ICS probs you had, were you running any mods?? For me CoD tweaks are a must and using ROM Toolbox to disable almost everything from startup is important, too
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Was there ics specific cod tweaks, or same as gb

I used the same as listed on CoD thread on Vaelpak's forum

Quickest But Stable Roms

I am currently running Andromadus Mimicry, but I have found it to be quite slow. Has anyone experienced any quick, but stable roms.
Thanks

Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.

biohazrd51 said:
Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Thanks, I ran CM7 for a while, but found it quite slow and laggy on my g2. I was just wondering if anyone had found any quick ICS roms.
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If you find Andromadus Mimicry and CM7.2 too slow, than I’m afraid you need a new phone
Minicry might not be 100% stable, but it is pretty close. I think the ICS (or JB) would not be significantly faster even with official HTC kernel (without hacks).
You can overclock your phone and try different governors. This way you can improve the “smoothness” at a cost of battery life. Also be sure you are running ext4 filesystem. And a fast SD card may help too, check if it is at least class 8.

Mimicry flies for me at 1.5ghz

Andromadus test builds with JellyBean are the fastest of all I've tested so far (cm7.*, cm9.*, MIUI, stock sense ROMs etc.). There are some bugs however (in latest build - #71 - for example camera stopped working), but speed, smoothness, and all JB-related-features of this ROM are really outstanding. I believe, that all annoying bugs will be smashed really soon and my G2 will last until new nexus comes out.

Ilwt cm7 #1

Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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kbeezie said:
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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masterleron said:
Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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Sounds like you got a bit more than just rom choice for your problem, I've had neither of those issues (could even do 1500mhz if I wanted without a problem).
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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masterleron said:
Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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Well, it certinaly worked. It took a little longer than expected, I forgot to make a backup . The phone is a lot faster, with no slowdown periods. The only issue I have is mentioned here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842347
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lTWL. Fast stable. And battery life is amazing!

How about sense roms?
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I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.

masterleron said:
How about sense roms?
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Sense beyond 2.1/3.5(gingerbread) generally speaking is too much bloat for desirez/g2, sense 4.0A would be fine cept its been worsen and slowed down with the 3.0 kernel for sake of a working camera. The full sense 4.0 they took the kernel from is slow to the point of practically unusable on our devices.
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Azianmunk said:
I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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Jelly bean still has a bit of work to put into, but there are plenty of fast ICS roms (non-sense) out there with "functional" camera app (post-gb its mainly the camera people complain about)
I've found for me, ICS to be quicker/smoother than stock or CM7.2.
Regarding apps (while I don't condone piracy) titanium backup would be the solution, assuming said apps are compatible with ICS.
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If you want sense, flash sense 4.0 by geneysense it thinks the name. And then use romcleaner and flash after you flash rom and its smmoooth

Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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masterleron said:
Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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PS: "CM9" by Jerl is not CM9 Official (ie: it didn't come from the cyanogenmod people), it's just bout the same (if not worse in my opinion) than Mimicry which is based off Andromadus which is based off Cyanogenmod 9's source. Though if you do try Jerl's port of it, I strongly advise you not to use the 3.0 kernel, too many problems with it and he apparently didn't bother testing it before releasing it (or least didn't bother to tell people the risk).
Far as google account syncing, it depends on whether or not you made sure to flash google apps afterwards, and if you accidently booted prior to flashing it, then you need to make sure to remove all your accounts on the phone then re-add them as it says in the OP of that thread.