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Internal Memory getting eaten up

hey all ~
I have the internal memory widget installed on my homescreen and it shows that i have used up 130 / 159 mb on my sprint Hero.
this morning, I had 126 mb used up
my text messages were acting REAL slow this afternoon, so i booted up the Flipz kitchen (0.2) and backed up/deleted my text messages. works great now. but that added more crap to my phone's memory
What I've done to my phone:
rooted under windows
loaded recovery img
flashed Fresh 1.1
have like 60 apps (I could get rid of at least 5 of em right away, prolly more)
176 contacts - w/ Facebook connect
loaded custom bootscreen - some nexus one / hero hybrid thing with sound
custom theme - ClearLock w/ Stock icons found on geekfor.me/kitchen/lockscreens/
I feel like my phone is running out of internal storage. Am i overracting? Is it actually okay? what can i do to free up some space? how long will this much space last?
I don't want to do apps2sd, it just doesn't seem like a good idea.
thanks all, and sorry if this is not really a problem!
~Jimbo

I just wouldn't go below 10mb of free internal storage, otherwise you should be fine and any preformance issues you may be experiencing are most likely caused by one of the apps you have installed.
Also I remember hearing reports of the phone bugging out when it reaches over 70 apps. I'm not sure if that's still an issue but I'd tread that water slowly if you know what I mean.

prior to this phone, I had a blackberry that bugged out if i had too many messages displayed. I'm not worried at all about the SMS app slowdown

Application Data Space Low

I keep getting this notification. I have installed a bunch of apps and have over 3 gigs of internal memory free.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Go through all of your apps and look for one with 99mb of cache... Then clear that cache.
First apps that I would look are email apps.

I don't have any left with that much. The most is gmail with 61, then flash with 12. Can't clear cache in gmail.

.......so uninstall some apps. did you really need to make a thread about this???

Uh yes because iud you could read you would see that I installed apts and have around half the memory free. No need to be a jerk

This happens when your /data/data partition gets full. The partition is only 150 Megs. This requires you to monitor program caches and data storage. It sucks but until a work around is found it's something that has to be dealt with. I found that stored text messages are a huge data hog. What's more, the Barnes and Noble ebook reader has a 10 Meg file it stores in the data/data partition. Removing these alleviated my issue for the time being. Best thing is to be selective about what you install. I mean really, do I NEED three GPS speedometers?

Smabbage said:
This happens when your /data/data partition gets full. The partition is only 150 Megs. This requires you to monitor program caches and data storage. It sucks but until a work around is found it's something that has to be dealt with. I found that stored text messages are a huge data hog. What's more, the Barnes and Noble ebook reader has a 10 Meg file it stores in the data/data partition. Removing these alleviated my issue for the time being. Best thing is to be selective about what you install. I mean really, do I NEED three GPS speedometers?
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Thanks. I thought it might be something like that. I'll dump some stored texts and see if I still have the B&N reader installed.

xmetl said:
.......so uninstall some apps. did you really need to make a thread about this???
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This issue is a real nuisance. I'm glad a thread was opened about this because Smabbage had a great explanation. An explanation I haven't seen at that level of detail.

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Smabbage said:
This happens when your /data/data partition gets full. The partition is only 150 Megs. This requires you to monitor program caches and data storage. It sucks but until a work around is found it's something that has to be dealt with. I found that stored text messages are a huge data hog. What's more, the Barnes and Noble ebook reader has a 10 Meg file it stores in the data/data partition. Removing these alleviated my issue for the time being. Best thing is to be selective about what you install. I mean really, do I NEED three GPS speedometers?
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Rather then manually doing this, I've come across "an app for that"...
CacheMate for Root Users Free (link brings you to the AppBrain page for this app)
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Since the /data/data partition is so relatively small, I just wish more app developers would store their applications data on the SD card by default. Some of the newer apps do.

Dumping all my old texts seems to have done the trick. Thanks for the tip Smabbage!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Glad I could help.

wait- not resolved
oops- the data space message is back. I do have a lot of apps. I tried uninstalling a couple of the largest but no go. I installed cachemate but when it runs it says there is no cache to delete!
Is there a way for me to manually inspect the data space to see what is hogging it?

I used Root Explorer and bounced in and out of all the directories in the /data/data folder until I found the main culprits. For me, Barnes and Noble Nook app, Pandora Cache, Double Twist Cache, Amazon Kindle, just to name a few. Your mileage may vary.

Smabbage said:
I used Root Explorer and bounced in and out of all the directories in the /data/data folder until I found the main culprits. For me, Barnes and Noble Nook app, Pandora Cache, Double Twist Cache, Amazon Kindle, just to name a few. Your mileage may vary.
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Thanks. I'll takes a look.

I really wish this is something either htc or google would address... Its pathetic to have a phone with so much space in it and have to delete my text messages periodically to send a new one. So what if I have useless apps, I recall buying a phone advertised as having 8 gigs internal storage, and 1 gig onboard memory. Come on HTC, get on the ball and fix this low space issue...

madfatter said:
...Come on HTC, get on the ball and fix this low space issue...
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From what i understand this is not a device issue that HTC has control over but rather a software issue. I too was excited to get 8GB on the phone and hoping to not have a need for an SD card. When the Incredible came out, almost nothing had support for accessing internal storage, now there are some.
I just got this message for the first time last week. Deleting some 1000 sms made the message stop.
Sent from my Incredible

Heh. We need a partition manager for rooted phones. Then we can allocate more space for the /data/data folder and Bob's your uncle, no more worries. Of course, it hinges on whether it's even possible.

Smabbage said:
I used Root Explorer and bounced in and out of all the directories in the /data/data folder until I found the main culprits. For me, Barnes and Noble Nook app, Pandora Cache, Double Twist Cache, Amazon Kindle, just to name a few. Your mileage may vary.
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One culprit for me was Swype Installer which after clearing data cleared up about 3-4 MB of space on data/data. I think it might've been from an install that didn't complete properly so it cached the program. After uninstalling and reinstalling Swype, Swype Installer now only shows 28KB for data (instead of 3-4 MB).

So, I was getting this error message for a couple weeks now - but (like everyone else), my phone showed I had PLENTY of memory! It did't get annoying until things stopped working in the past couple days:
- updates wouldn't download
- new downloads wouldn't download
- Google Talk stopped working completely
- gmail wouldn't update my inbox or download new emails
- screen touch response was getting more flaky
among other things.
So, I tried all of the things mentioned here and on other similar threads to no avail. The problem didn't get any better in spite of my best efforts.
I went into my Application manager prefs and viewed them by size instead of A-Z. One of the larger ones was Flash, which I downloaded and update for not too long ago. On a whim, I decided to uninstall it and reboot (again). Guess what...
Problem is gone.
No more error message. All of the problems I had above are gone. Everything is working as it should - except for Flash of course.
I'm curious to see if others that are having similar problems would try this (deleting Flash) and seeing if you have the same results. I would like to know if it's really Flash causing the problem, or simply the deletion of one of the larger apps that's fixing it. Because if it's Flash, that's a big deal.

[Q] How to Keep Sense in Memory

Hello Desire HD world !
I have a problem really annoying with my DHD.
Sense is rebooting very often when the device is out of memory (it always happens at the bad moment ).
I experienced the same thing with my Milestone, and problem was solved by adding the line ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 in /data/local.prop, and then system took memory on other apps, and LauncherPro stayed in memory.
Sense does not use this file, I tried to create it, but nothing happened.
Any idea ? Because with so much RAM, I don't understand why Sense is not kept in memory, there is a lot of useless apps loaded !
Thanks !
PS ; I use the last stock ROM with no taskiller.

Up !
Nobody has the problem or nobody knows how to fix it ?

I have been noticing this as well. It's pretty annoying to turn your phone on to use it, and have to wait 20 seconds for the launcher to start!
You'd think they would be more aggressive with keeping it in memory, as there are plenty of apps sleeping in the cache which should be removed before Sense.

Tatou26 said:
Sense is rebooting very often when the device is out of memory (it always happens at the bad moment ).
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I would say get rid of some apps that you don't need. I have everything I could possibly use, and still have well over 700 MB left. To use all the memory you have you must see some apps you downloaded just to see what they are, and don't even use. If you actaully do use them all then I don't know what you can do unless some can be moved to a SD card.

I think you misunderstood the problem .
The memory is the RAM, not the ROM. I still have about 700 mb free on my device.
But when a lot of programs are opened, Sense is killed by the system, it does not have the priority, and I don't understand why.

Oh sorry. Yeah misunderstood. I use Mini Info from the Market, and my RAM usage even under heavy use barley gets to around 200 out of 623 available. Maybe there is something stuck that is using up so much memory. Do you have a lot of widgets on your home screens? Also do you restart often?

bobbyphoenix said:
Oh sorry. Yeah misunderstood. I use Mini Info from the Market, and my RAM usage even under heavy use barley gets to around 200 out of 623 available. Maybe there is something stuck that is using up so much memory. Do you have a lot of widgets on your home screens? Also do you restart often?
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I have one widget on each screen. And I make a restart every morning.
Maybe the Live Wallpaper is the cause ?
I am the only one having the problem ?

Tatou26 said:
I have one widget on each screen. And I make a restart every morning.
Maybe the Live Wallpaper is the cause ?
I am the only one having the problem ?
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No you're not! I just had Sense restart on me RIGHT NOW, after installing and using Catch Notes.

Ok so issue is real.
Without Sense no problem to keep the Home in memory.
Weard.

Do you use the Spare Parts app?

No spare parts, everything is stock, except the root.

SD card? Im a Dunce

Okay first post and sure this is off to a great start, because its probably like the lamest question ever....
I see the SD card partition on the Nexus S and for the LIFE of me can't actually figure out what its for.
If USB storage is for holding media and info then what is the SD for?
At one point i was getting memory errors from apps and it said SD memory at capacity or something like that and the limit seemed VERY small. I ran a cache cleaner and removed some clashing apps (i believe) and it seemed fine after that.
Is the SD the internal RAM?
feel free to call me any derogatory name you like as long as you give me a wiki or explanation. I tried searching the forum and google but it just brings up posts where people already talk about SD with knowledge.
thanks

tevil said:
Okay first post and sure this is off to a great start, because its probably like the lamest question ever....
I see the SD card partition on the Nexus S and for the LIFE of me can't actually figure out what its for.
If USB storage is for holding media and info then what is the SD for?
At one point i was getting memory errors from apps and it said SD memory at capacity or something like that and the limit seemed VERY small. I ran a cache cleaner and removed some clashing apps (i believe) and it seemed fine after that.
Is the SD the internal RAM?
feel free to call me any derogatory name you like as long as you give me a wiki or explanation. I tried searching the forum and google but it just brings up posts where people already talk about SD with knowledge.
thanks
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The SD card is a non removable flash storage device. It's the storage you see when you mount USB storage.
Apps will cache data to the SD card, this is where any downloads go, any picture s or movies you take, etc. It is 16 GB of general storage (separate from the 1GB of internal storage).

Think of it as 'built-in'. For all practical purposes, there is a sdcard, which behaves just as it would on any other android, but you can't remove it. I'm not sure if it is physically part of the internal memory or not. I suspect there is one 16GB chip that is partitioned for internal and /sdcard.
tevil said:
Okay first post and sure this is off to a great start, because its probably like the lamest question ever....
I see the SD card partition on the Nexus S and for the LIFE of me can't actually figure out what its for.
If USB storage is for holding media and info then what is the SD for?
At one point i was getting memory errors from apps and it said SD memory at capacity or something like that and the limit seemed VERY small. I ran a cache cleaner and removed some clashing apps (i believe) and it seemed fine after that.
Is the SD the internal RAM?
feel free to call me any derogatory name you like as long as you give me a wiki or explanation. I tried searching the forum and google but it just brings up posts where people already talk about SD with knowledge.
thanks
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i am a bit stumped then. when it gave me the sd capacity it was NO WHERE near 16g's. it was like 800mbs or something. this is why my slacker kept crashing out and giving me a memory error.
is there a way in the OS to see the SD capacity? I had an app that told me but got rid of it cause i think it was also part of the crashing issues i had.
so is what your saying the SD is what you see when you USB your phone to the computer? its that root DIR. In clockwork i can see a USB and SD dir separately i believe but ill have to check again
thanks
on a side note does anyone else have slacker issues. this is how the entire subject came up to me anyway

tevil said:
i am a bit stumped then. when it gave me the sd capacity it was NO WHERE near 16g's. it was like 800mbs or something. this is why my slacker kept crashing out and giving me a memory error.
is there a way in the OS to see the SD capacity? I had an app that told me but got rid of it cause i think it was also part of the crashing issues i had.
so is what your saying the SD is what you see when you USB your phone to the computer? its that root DIR. In clockwork i can see a USB and SD dir separately i believe but ill have to check again
thanks
on a side note does anyone else have slacker issues. this is how the entire subject came up to me anyway
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Slacker works fine for me, always has (outside of it's poor ability to precache the next song).
For Storage go to Settings -> Storage. USB storage is the SD card.

What space you see when you plug in the NS to your computer's USB is the SD card.
It is not the root folder of the whole phone.
Under the "Settings -> Storage" window on your phone, the "USB Storage" is we are calling the SD card.
The Internal Storage is what the phone needs itself.
Here is mine:
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Because of all the music on my NS & the fact almost all my apps are there too, I am sucking up approx 3 gigs of SD or USb storage space.
The NS is sucking up approx 800megs of space, of the 1 gig available to it.
As for your Slacker issues, Although I am not familiar with this application, have you tried just reinstalling it.
Heeter

cool thanks guys.
just couldnt figure whyd they name something twice.
As for slacker i beleive it was a mix of
juice defender (which i may try again solo to see if its really that good)
ad blocker (which was jsut something i tried but never really needed, good riddance)
and like these two cleaners which i dont remember the names of.
Now i have NG cache cleaner which is nice and my slcaker seems to be normal again
wasnt sure if the adblocker was seeing the commercials in slacker as ads and trying to block them out causing problems so i got rid of that first.
as the other guy said the pre chaching was HORRIBLE at times making me think the app locked. but after those removals it worked fine with occassional lag betweensongs

tablet z Lollipop feedback

Hi everyone!
Please post here your opinions / problems / enhances and all that you find useful to share about the new born Android on our beautiful machines

Does the lilipop arrived yet to the z tablet? Mine hás no update yet :/

It has just arrived to Portugal. I had the notification on mine like one hour ago but will only install it during the weekend.
You just will have to wait for your turn....

I didn't wait and flashed the TW version. Pretty good in my opinion.

That update method is just too much trouble for me lol!
What differences did you feel? Faster? More battery life? Can you download stuff directly to your micro SD card now?

Settings force close when I open it in ultra stamina mode.
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The battery decreases when using the tablet and charging it (Very Light usage minimum brightness)"Flashed the fw twice.
And It'll decrease Really fast that it will give me a warning about it for just using Tapatalk and Facebook.Didn't have this problem on CM.
For the performance I can't compare it to the previous build cuz I'm on CM for months. I can say it's OK but not smooth and buttery like CM.
Having latest Sony apps, Themes and the remote back is a nice thing. : )
I was very exited about the ultra stamina mode. But seriously without a mod to add some apps there's almost no point for activating it.
Auto-rotation toggle in portrate mode will be portrait-only then after a second switches to landscape. Weird thing.
There is no white balance anymore.

To me the most annoying thing in Kit Kat was the external SD card writing permitions. You couldn't download stuff directly to it, I hope lollipop allows that.i will install it soon and then post my opinion.

Guys the Lollipop update is excellent. The new interface is really slick. The ART runtime really makes this tablet fly. Sony has breathed new life into our tablets, it's great. There is one click root with kingroot 4.1 as well. I installed the APK and it worked perfectly.

Could you be a litre more specific? Tell us how you feel about battery life, performance, any lag, I read some complaints about rotation mode, SD card permitions....

pafmdsilva said:
Could you be a litre more specific? Tell us how you feel about battery life, performance, any lag, I read some complaints about rotation mode, SD card permitions....
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You expect me to tell you about battery life when I was only using it for a couple of hours? How about you get on your horse, install the update, and tell us yourself.

Just got lollipop a few hours ago.
The update was smooth and I didn't loose any data and all apps still here.
First impression is that lollipop is quite faster than kitkat.
I am enjoying enjoying the new interface. Nice and easy to use.
On the settings menu you will find a few new things like the ultra stamina mode and add guest accounts or add apps to micro SD card but you still can't use your torrent engine to download stuff directly into it...may in a future update.
About battery still can't say cause not enough use.
Overall I am happy with the update mainly because how faster it got.

Just got lollipop a few hours ago.
The update was smooth and I didn't loose any data and all apps still here.
First impression is that lollipop is quite faster than kitkat.
I am enjoying enjoying the new interface. Nice and easy to use.
On the settings menu you will find a few new things like the ultra stamina mode and add guest accounts or add apps to micro SD card but you still can't use your torrent engine to download stuff directly into it...may in a future update.
About battery still can't say cause not enough use.
Overall I am happy with the update mainly because how faster it got.

First impress on lollipop
Smooth upgrade, nothing lost except Clean master widget (expected) although flying broomstick is still floating on my scren
Now I can move apps to SD card. It has released pressure on memory, so tablet behaves much much better.
A bout battery I can not make opinion - too early to say.
In any case GOOD UPGRADE!
Has anybody tested storage encryption? Would like to encrypt, but am little afraid of slowdown (old CPU).
Decryption can be tricky - read about hanging in the middle of process, than only factory reset helps. Data gone... But it was different device...
If anybody has experience please report. Thanks in advance.

Been running 5.02 for a few days now, only issue thus far is my Volume dropped noticeably on my tablet..
Even at Max level its noticeably softer.

move apps to SD - what about app data?
I tried out the move apps to SD card on the new lollipop 5.0.2 for the Tablet Z
(I have the 16Gig wifi).
It moved the app itself to SD, but what it doesn't seem to do is cause the app to put it's data on the SD card.
I have a specific app that downloads and caches an issue of a magazine, so it uses lots of data (900 MB last time I looked), and although some 15MB of app moved to the SD card, none of this data did.
I even tried deleting that month's issue and downloading a different month's issue to see if new downloads would go to SD: nope.
So, while I like the idea of being able to move the apps to SD card, so far it really hasn't proved to be much of a benefit to me because at least 3 GB of my internal storage seems to be taken by cached data (my magazine app, google books, etc) that doesn't seem to want to move to the SD card.
I'm continuously getting the warning notification to move stuff to the SD card to free up space, but I've got very little I can move (a few hundred MB) compared to the several GB of cached app data that won't move.
I'm really thinking I need to get the 32gb version next time around.

francobarber said:
I tried out the move apps to SD card on the new lollipop 5.0.2 for the Tablet Z
(I have the 16Gig wifi).
It moved the app itself to SD, but what it doesn't seem to do is cause the app to put it's data on the SD card.
I have a specific app that downloads and caches an issue of a magazine, so it uses lots of data (900 MB last time I looked), and although some 15MB of app moved to the SD card, none of this data did.
I even tried deleting that month's issue and downloading a different month's issue to see if new downloads would go to SD: nope.
So, while I like the idea of being able to move the apps to SD card, so far it really hasn't proved to be much of a benefit to me because at least 3 GB of my internal storage seems to be taken by cached data (my magazine app, google books, etc) that doesn't seem to want to move to the SD card.
I'm continuously getting the warning notification to move stuff to the SD card to free up space, but I've got very little I can move (a few hundred MB) compared to the several GB of cached app data that won't move.
I'm really thinking I need to get the 32gb version next time around.
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You don't need the 32gb version, you need to know what you are doing. Root your tablet then install link2sd.

warriorking said:
Been running 5.02 for a few days now, only issue thus far is my Volume dropped noticeably on my tablet..
Even at Max level its noticeably softer.
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I think you are right. I almost cannot hear YouTube videos. Damn, this is a pity! For the rest, the tablet works great so far!

warriorking said:
Been running 5.02 for a few days now, only issue thus far is my Volume dropped noticeably on my tablet..
Even at Max level its noticeably softer.
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turkilmaz said:
I think you are right. I almost cannot hear YouTube videos. Damn, this is a pity! For the rest, the tablet works great so far!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/themes-apps/android-5-0-2-volume-boost-mod-t3133122
francobarber said:
I'm continuously getting the warning notification to move stuff to the SD card to free up space, but I've got very little I can move (a few hundred MB) compared to the several GB of cached app data that won't move.
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This function seems to be useless, as it copies only apk files to external SD. Cache and everything else is still on internal SD.

My tablet Z has been given a new lease of life. love lollipop update. It was OTA update as well .
its much smoother now and faster. No noticeable lag. Interface looks more modern now.
Dont hesitate guys and update.
Btw my tablet is stock , not rooted. Been holding out on rooting, glad they gave us lollipop.