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HTC Mogul memory decrease over the course of a day

What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?

hansolos said:
What is up with the memory drain on this device. I'll start the day with 24mb of memory (soft reset) and only have 10mb or less at the end of the day with no apps but activesync running. Has anyone less notice this?
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Yea I get the same problem. Except I start off with about 20 and end up with as low as 9 before i'm forced to soft reset.

Its the magic of the Mogul's memory leak. The old rom and new rom feature it so untill a new update comes out, were stuck with it.

Does the Hermes and Kaiser have the same issue? They seem to be similar. They other thing is that the WM6 is suppose to have made those apps that leak in previous versions run at the kernel level.

my titan doesnt have the issue. its an app you've got installed. hard reset and dont install anything, you wont have the problem. troubleshooting 101. dont blame the titan.

I posted this on another forum discussing this problem, so I'll just quote myself here:
The memory "leak" thing is nothing more than a cache "optimization" in place to make the device respond snappier.
Whether it succeeds or not is another story altogether...
Basically, like any cache, it stores recent calculations for faster response later. For example, if you open and close IE alot, you might notice that the first time you open it on a fresh restart takes a little bit longer than the next times- that's because the second time you start it up, parts of it are still in memory from the first time!
You might be wondering why this happens even after forcing it closed with Xbutton or the memory settings. That's because the info stored in the performance cache aren't directly related to any one program! Many apps can use the same routines and calculations, and therefore this process exists on a processor/file system layer as opposed to a software layer, and therefore also exists even when all programs are closed!
Meaning, if I have mapopolis that uses a certain routine to access my BT GPS receiver, even after I close it, some of that routine stays in memory because perhaps Google Maps will use the same routine, and therefore respond faster!
Now, ideally, this should speed up performance, and it SHOULD disappear on its own if the memory is needed and the information goes "stale" (hasn't been processed in a while = not really needed for optimized perfomance). However, one look at the way Microsoft handles "automatically closing apps" (native X button, anyone?) is enough to know that WM can't manage its own memory very well.
I can, however, vouch for the fact that the longer you leave all programs closed, the more of your memory starts to creep back into available. I've sat and watched this happen. So, it sort of works, but perhaps not well enough if people are having low memory system crash problems.
Now, before you all start blaming MS for this... Its not Microsoft's problem. They developed CE-5 (which WM6 is based on) on machines limited to 32MB to make sure the programmers didn't get lazy with OS bloat.
Its the manufacturers who add all this file system optimization and stuff to their final device. In this case, its the way HTC thinks the system should run, which is why this anomaly is NOT as apparent on, say, a WM Treo device.
The good news is that if we complain enough, HTC might realize this optimization does more bad than good, and leave it out on the next ROM update for us.
However, truth be told, I think it works. The Mogul is one of the snappiest PPC's I've used of late, although I can't say for sure if its because of the cache or not.
This is just my personal opinion, so don't flog me! I just don't look at the memory useage anymore unless I'm having a problem, which mind you, I hardly do.
My most recent observations were this:
Soft reset gives me ~21MB (got some htc plugins), and after a day of use, making sure to close everything after I'm done, I get 18-19MB. At lowest, I hit 10MB after closing alot of apps. This memory usually comes back to 18-19mb in a matter of time for me. If for some strange reason it doesn't (can't say how often this happens), I soft reset.
All in all, I'm happy with the Mogul.
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I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
I was just wondering if others had the same issue and might know of the reason.
Is there a list of known apps that cause memory 'drain' or don't clear their cache. I can understand apps caching data into memory to run faster, but they are not cleaning themselves out upon exit. The strange thing is how they continue to grow over the course of the day with no interaction.
I'm doing a hard reset to see if it get better. Add apps one at a time until I find an issue.

Ok did a hard reset. Setup Outlook to get my mail from Exchange and Gmail. Let it get synced and then did a soft reset. Started with 24mb after reset, down to 21mb without doing anything after an hour and it's still falling. The only thing running is ActiveSync. I've also removed htc_cm_guardain and ssdaemon from the startup. The only thing in startup is poutlook.
The thing I noticed when I had handyswitcher installed (before hard reset) was that filesys, device, gwes, services, shell and cprog all continously increased there memory consumption over the course of a few hours and never stopped or released it.

hansolos said:
I wasn't blaming the Titan directly, although I wish they would allow you to adjust the memory like they have in the past. But as I've read that may having something to do with chipset of battery consumption.
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No no no... the reason you used to be able to select storage vs RAM was because it was SHARED memory! It was actually all RAM. If you had a 64MB device, that 64mb was split between ram and storage, and just like the rest of your RAM, it would wipe out when the battery died!
Ever since WM5 came along, they stopped sharing the memory, and now have dedicated RAM and Storage (using the leftover space on the EPROM chips used for the ROM image), much like a computer. This is a much better solution since you don't sacrifice your RAM for storing some large files, and you don't have to worry about battery failure cleaning you out!
Also, its not the apps that have cache, its the file system. The file system WILL actually free up some of that memory as the device is left with all apps closed for a while (maybe not all of it, but I've watched my device go from 11mb free after closing stuff to 18-19mb).

You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.

bam, thanks for the info... that little app rocks.

use a file explorer and go to \Windows\Startup. There is a shortcut there for a program along the lines of HTC_Guardian_cmsomething. This app is a htc app used to enforce sprint settings and runs in the background. So long as you don't destroy your phone internet settings you can just remove the shortcut. I found all my memory leak issues have gone away. I don't have any leaks when using the kaiser tab plugin.

Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.

what does SDdaemon do?

sddaemon is suppose to be the speed dial or voice command app you get when you hit the button on the left side with the talk bubble. It loads the app if you hit the button, so I'm not sure why they have it in startup.

On my old Treo 700W, which REALLY had a memory problem, I used Oxios hibernate all the time. It works quite well.

yes, it works.
bam099 said:
You guys need to hit the easy button on this one! It may not be a permanent fix, but there's a small freeware called Oxios Hibernate that releases RAM. I just put it on my start menu and 2 clicks....I have free RAM. Try it out, you won't be disappointed.
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you know what might help...if windows mobile had some sorta sorta disk caching feature...

that's what is causing the memory leak.

great tips. thanks.
hansolos said:
Yes I've removed the links for HTC_Guardian and SSDaemon from startup and added them to my settings folder (if I ever need them). I soft reset to around 25mb and the Oxios Hibernate app keeps me around 24.5mb.
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Laggy Phone

My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released

If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/

You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.

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You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card

tanner2007 said:
And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.

Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.

borodin1 said:
Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while

I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.

I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?

how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.

borodin1 said:
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes

tanner2007 said:
I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
or
Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
(scroll down to second post)

Solution for laggy Hero?

Hi!
My Hero gets very laggy sometimes when I open up too much apps. Unfortunately there is no way (that I know of) to actually close an app, they just 'hibernate' in the background. I tried using TasKiller but it seems to have issues with the hero (when I try to kill apps it brings a random app forward and doesnt close it).
They best solution is just to reboot the phone. When it boots back up it works like a charm.
I thought it would be useful to have a tool that reboots the phone automatically every day at a given time (lets say 4AM) but I couldnt find any. Do You have any other solution for that problem?

I've been using Taskiller (unpaid) since I got my Hero and it's working fine.
Clicking on a task kills it, long clicking brings up the ignore/kill menu. The unpaid version allows for 2 ignores.

When I put a 'shortcut' to task killer on one of the screens it did bring up my contact list after pressing it.
But if I select task killer from the full list of installed apps it works fine, shows me a long list of whats running, you can kill them individual or hit the button at the top to kill them all.

I've been facing the same lagginess on my device, but it seems to go away after awhile. No idea why. Perhaps the system is configured to clean up every now and then?
Taskkiller seems to shut down the SenseUI, so I've stopped using it in the meantime.
What really annoys me, however, is how sometimes the SenseUI seems to crash, and all you see on the screen is the notification bar area, and the HTC logo, as though the phone was switching scenes or rebooting.

ghoonk said:
I've been facing the same lagginess on my device, but it seems to go away after awhile. No idea why. Perhaps the system is configured to clean up every now and then?
Taskkiller seems to shut down the SenseUI, so I've stopped using it in the meantime.
What really annoys me, however, is how sometimes the SenseUI seems to crash, and all you see on the screen is the notification bar area, and the HTC logo, as though the phone was switching scenes or rebooting.
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Taskiller works best if you choose individually which apps to close. You need to leave Touch Input and TouchFlo alone if you still want things to work properly!
Generally it's pretty obvious which apps you want to close e.g. Browser, GMail, Games, GMaps, etc.
Oh and I believe Android will auto-close apps when it decides the system is running low on resources (presumably RAM). That may explain why things suddenly speed up.

Going through app by app isn't something I'd like to spend my day doing. TK has been useful for me on my HTC Magic and Dream (yeah, I'm a bit of an Android man), but on Hero, I haven't really found it as useful

there a program "advanced taskkiller" at the android marketplace. you can kill all tasks at once and then get back to the sense ui by pressing the home button.. found it a good solution for me to free up some memory pretty fast

rivak said:
there a program "advanced taskkiller" at the android marketplace. you can kill all tasks at once and then get back to the sense ui by pressing the home button.. found it a good solution for me to free up some memory pretty fast
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Is the app for free? I can't find it.
Unfortunately we cannot see paid apps in Poland.

Yes, it is a paid app. I had the same problem as well, but thank goodness my G1 came with an AT&T prepaid SIM card. Although the SIM card doesn't work, it is enough to identify me as a US customer when I access Market over WiFi, thus giving me access to paid apps.
It might be worthwhile for you to check if you can get your hands on a depleted AT&T SIM card on eBay or something

Has anyone tried
"Advance Task Manager" i had it on both my G1 and HTC Magic with the Hero Rom installed and it worked just fine for me.

yes, i am using it myself and it works fine.
is a free app, or at least the version i have is.
it remembers which apps you selected to shut down, so each time you go in, they are ticked already and you just have to hit the kill button.
the first time you use it, untick the ones you want to leave running and then it's good to go.

stingerpl said:
Is the app for free? I can't find it.
Unfortunately we cannot see paid apps in Poland.
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the app is for free. it`s called "advanced task killer" on android marketplace
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-rechild-advancedtaskkiller-jCEw.aspx

rhedgehog said:
yes, i am using it myself and it works fine.
is a free app, or at least the version i have is.
it remembers which apps you selected to shut down, so each time you go in, they are ticked already and you just have to hit the kill button.
the first time you use it, untick the ones you want to leave running and then it's good to go.
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Using which one?

Advanced Task Manager is really great with the exceptions and widgets it is they best task killer out there IMO.
I got rid of the HTC TouchFLO/SenseUI and killed all of the HTC processes on my Hero. I also uninstalled Locale (very sad to do that because its very useful).
I run this configuration for two days now and I have no lag at all!
All you really loose are the HTC widgets which I didnt utilize anyways.

I just got an 8GB microsdhc Class 6 card and installed advanced task killer to get rid of the apps that were running in the background and now Henry (that's what I lovingly called my Hero) runs really quickly and with no lag at all.
Love it!

How do you identify the class of the SD card? I've got one but haven't a clue what it is?

Mansn said:
I just got an 8GB microsdhc Class 6 card and installed advanced task killer to get rid of the apps that were running in the background and now Henry (that's what I lovingly called my Hero) runs really quickly and with no lag at all.
Love it!
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I also have a class 6 sd card.
How in the world could it help the lag (assuming you didnt root the phone and make a swapfile on the sd card)? Pls explain

johnboywilson said:
Using which one?
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Advanced task killer.

mwatson said:
How do you identify the class of the SD card? I've got one but haven't a clue what it is?
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If there is a little "6" on the card then you know that it's a class 6. Like this:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/class 6 micro sdhc/ddddadi/microSDHC4GB_a.jpg
If there is no number on the card it is most probably a "Class 2" card. Class 6 cards are more expensive, but have higher data transfer rates.
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I also have a class 6 sd card.
How in the world could it help the lag (assuming you didnt root the phone and make a swapfile on the sd card)? Pls explain
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Well, seeing that a lot of the files that you access while using applications are stored on the card (photos, music etc) it does make sense. And perhaps the Hero uses the card as a swap space to store things on? I really don't know how or why it might be faster, but I have definitely noticed the difference. The phone hardly lags any more. When it does, it's literally just for half a second.
Before I often had the issue that while I was typing the phone just wouldn't keep up any more. I haven't experienced that since I have installed the new card.

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If there is no number on the card it is most probably a "Class 2" card. Class 6 cards are more expensive, but have higher data transfer rates.
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It should be said that class 6 cards have higher *minimum* data transfer rates for writing. These are:
Class 2 - 2MB/s
Class 4 - 4MB/s
Class 6 - 6MB/s
Many cards exceed these speeds both reading and writing, and often by very large margins. For example, class 2 cards writing at 12MB/s etc (example http://www.davidgilson.co.uk/2008/12/follow-up-another-micro-sdhc-card/ )
It is also possible to buy class 2 cards that are actually faster than class 6 cards from other manufacturers.
The point is that when you buy a card, look for independent reviews that have actually measured the read/write speeds of the cards, and buy accordingly. Just looking at the class in isolation, only guarantees you a minimum level of performance.
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a2sd installation

Ok, so I followed some instructions I found to see if a2sd was installed properly, and it was, but I've installed some apps and my free memory inside my phone is around 33 MB... (not ram) Anyone knwo why a2sd would be installed correctly according to the instructions I used, and why the phone says I have such little space left?Last time I checked, it was 99MB

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Ok, so I followed some instructions I found to see if a2sd was installed properly, and it was, but I've installed some apps and my free memory inside my phone is around 33 MB... (not ram) Anyone knwo why a2sd would be installed correctly according to the instructions I used, and why the phone says I have such little space left?Last time I checked, it was 99MB
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There was a thread just like not more than 30 minutes ago.
Anyways, check your widgets load out as they could be pre-fetching or eating your ram. I had a similar issue and ram kept dropping until it was around 29MB. Weird thing is that I then wanted to try to setup an alternate setup on the stock launcher, and when I tried loading a widget there, it forced closed the launcher and when I checked my memeory at that point, it was back solid around the 110MB point. I switched back to Sense with my widget setups and had no problems since.
you might also try to not use things like pre-fetch on widgets such as News and Weather, and shut off auto updates for items you don't use.
You can also just ry removing all widgets and starting again to see if that does the trick.
Ceger

Ceger said:
There was a thread just like not more than 30 minutes ago.
Anyways, check your widgets load out as they could be pre-fetching or eating your ram. I had a similar issue and ram kept dropping until it was around 29MB. Weird thing is that I then wanted to try to setup an alternate setup on the stock launcher, and when I tried loading a widget there, it forced closed the launcher and when I checked my memeory at that point, it was back solid around the 110MB point. I switched back to Sense with my widget setups and had no problems since.
you might also try to not use things like pre-fetch on widgets such as News and Weather, and shut off auto updates for items you don't use.
You can also just ry removing all widgets and starting again to see if that does the trick.
Ceger
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Not ram... not ram... not ram.... phone memory... the internal phone storage.
And I was wrong, its not down to 33... it used to be near 100MB free, now dswn to 71.83MB free space. Not ram
But while I am thinking about ram, I start up with around 78MB free and consistently run at around 58MB

Screen Freezes

Can those of you that notice screen freezes check your available memory at the time of the freeze. Im noticing that my build works perfectly until I get under 190mb available and it get progressively worse with the more memory in use. At around 100mb I start getting long wake times.
I have also removed three screens of icons and widgets to stop items from reloading after I kill the app. I have also reenabled my gsensor and auto-rotate (I had used gscript to disable it). Again as long as my memory stays above 200mb the system is GREAT, even with the gsensor active.
I did not notice any freezes after initial load, but as I started accumulating apps and widgets I think I have hit a choke point with memory.
I hope I am on to something.
Also, Im using TasKiller to kill apps with "Kill on Screen Off" enabled.

I am interested in seeing what people are experiencing. As I have stopped using task managers and have reverted to allowing android to do its thing. I have also turned of the screen rotation. I do not experience long wakes or screen freeze normally.only when my setcpu power profile falls below 572mhz do wakes become slower.

I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.

jmmmmm said:
I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.
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You would think that but I dont think people have an understanding of how android works vs winmo. In winmo Apps run all willynilly and dont shut down when memory is needed.
I will do my best to explain basic over view as i saw it
Your home screen is always in memory as it is considered a frontend app.
When you open a app it keeps the home screen in memory.
Now say this app is gmail. gmail opens and you open a link that opens a web browser. Now Say you decide to open a game but you have no more memory.
Android decides which app can be killed to make room for the new app.
since gmail was opened prior to the browser it is considered the oldest.
Android creates a saved state as you will. But only of the position in which you were at in gmail. It can then auto populate that info at a later time.
Then once you are done with the game If you press back it will bring up the web browser. If you press back again it will access that gmail saved state to bring you back to that point in the app killing off the game as its un-needed.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
this link is more info. they can explain it better than i could

jmmmmm said:
I tried to stop using task killers but i cant uninstall TasKiller as mattc has put it into the ROM so if I uninstall it it comes back on reboot. So I figure if he put there, it must be worth using.
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Remove the APK for TasKiller in the AndroidApps folder, boot into android and uninstall. Then it won't be back.

I just flashed the 2.12.50_2 on my hd2 tmous version
i had a completely stock radio 2.06.xx I flashed mattc 1ndroid version 1.7
and it would freeze on the lock screen....is that a radio issue or a WM Rom underneath it issue??

hazard99 said:
You would think that but I dont think people have an understanding of how android works vs winmo. In winmo Apps run all willynilly and dont shut down when memory is needed.
I will do my best to explain basic over view as i saw it
Your home screen is always in memory as it is considered a frontend app.
When you open a app it keeps the home screen in memory.
Now say this app is gmail. gmail opens and you open a link that opens a web browser. Now Say you decide to open a game but you have no more memory.
Android decides which app can be killed to make room for the new app.
since gmail was opened prior to the browser it is considered the oldest.
Android creates a saved state as you will. But only of the position in which you were at in gmail. It can then auto populate that info at a later time.
Then once you are done with the game If you press back it will bring up the web browser. If you press back again it will access that gmail saved state to bring you back to that point in the app killing off the game as its un-needed.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
this link is more info. they can explain it better than i could
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I'm not running out off memory, it's that memory is getting really low. That's the part I don't understand. I have a gig of system memory, where is it all going? How do I get down to 100 meg when I have nothing running? I'm trying to research android memory usage so I can figure this out. I know that since I started keeping my memory above 200... zero screen freezes. That speaks volumes to me. I wish I understood more.
Sent from my HD2

I need a little help getting android to load on my hd2, im using energy rom but everytime I try to flash froyo it freezes in lock screen our language selection screen

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I'm not running out off memory, it's that memory is getting really low. That's the part I don't understand. I have a gig of system memory, where is it all going? How do I get down to 100 meg when I have nothing running? I'm trying to research android memory usage so I can figure this out. I know that since I started keeping my memory above 200... zero screen freezes. That speaks volumes to me. I wish I understood more.
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ROM 1GB;
RAM 576MB
Rom where winmo is stored.
Ram where apps get loaded and part of android is running.
Do you have auto rotation turned off?
I experience very few freezes if any with it turned off
there is a toggle on the power widget when I do need it.
poulosjr said:
I need a little help getting android to load on my hd2, im using energy rom but everytime I try to flash froyo it freezes in lock screen our language selection screen
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Personally I am using radio 2.11 and energy rom as I always have. i have no problems whats so ever so try another winmo rom.

hazard99 said:
ROM 1GB;
RAM 576MB
Rom where winmo is stored.
Ram where apps get loaded and part of android is running.
Do you have auto rotation turned off?
I experience very few freezes if any with it turned off
there is a toggle on the power widget when I do need it.
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So do apps run in the 576MB RAM memory space?

jmmmmm said:
So do apps run in the 576MB RAM memory space?
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yes but you wont get that full amount due to other things running