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So I was reading a news article that said that t-mobile would be doubling the speed of hspa+ every year(or was it every two years?) Would the boost allow us to get faster speeds(past 14mb) or just help the phone get to 14mb like what hspa+ does for non hspa+ phones example being the vibrant getting speeds close to hspa 7.2?
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You won't see the G2 benefit that much since the hardware only supports up to 14 mbps. You may see the latency drop though with T-Mobile increasing the speeds of their network.
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It would allow us to utilize the full potential of the current max speed but unless the chip we have supports faster than 21.1Mbps or hspa++ then that's the best we could get and would need to upgrade to a different phone to go any faster. 21.1 Mbps is by no means slow though, so I wouldn't see a need to go faster other than simply because we can. That's just over 2.6 MBps by the way and the average cable internet is 15-25Mbps (1.875 - 3.125MBps), plenty fast for most of us.
By the way, it's 21.1 for 4G according to T Mobile, 14Mbps is *just* fast 3G which I was able to get on my slide, though I never saw those speeds. UMTS is 3G, HSPA is fast 3G and HSPA+ is 4G. Or that's how I've always understood it.

Yup our network, the way the cores are built are actually capable of (theoretical) speeds of over 100mbps I don't think we will ever push it that far, but as soon as we can support the output it will be updated. However most phones can only support up to 14 mbps so the next update will be the only one that matters for a while. I'm sure as you know we will try to expand the curent 4g network as much as we can befor we will up the juice. In the next upcoming year you will see a new line of phones come out with some pretty impressive stats to go along with the update.
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KCRic said:
It would allow us to utilize the full potential of the current max speed but unless the chip we have supports faster than 21.1Mbps or hspa++ then that's the best we could get and would need to upgrade to a different phone to go any faster. 21.1 Mbps is by no means slow though, so I wouldn't see a need to go faster other than simply because we can. That's just over 2.6 MBps by the way and the average cable internet is 15-25Mbps (1.875 - 3.125MBps), plenty fast for most of us.
By the way, it's 21.1 for 4G according to T Mobile, 14Mbps is *just* fast 3G which I was able to get on my slide, though I never saw those speeds. UMTS is 3G, HSPA is fast 3G and HSPA+ is 4G. Or that's how I've always understood it.
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HSPA+ is still 3G.

zorxd said:
HSPA+ is still 3G.
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HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx

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HSPA+ is still 3G.
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Sure, according to the 4G standards released a short while back - no phone carrier even comes close to 4G and won't for a very long time. 100Mbps is just insane, that's 12.5 MBps which far exceeds any persons needs on a cell phone and even for home/business usage. Maybe if you're trying to run a data center from your G2 it would be useful.
From a marketing standpoint, 21.1 is 4G - it's the next step up (and the fastest). After that is HSPA++ at 48Mbps, still not even close to the PC 4G definition but what do we care - it's fast as hell!

True either way were still getting faster speeds! I think I'm gonna stick to my g2 for awhile then. My speeds are already fast and constant.
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omarsalmin said:
HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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Technically hspa is not real 4g, but what people really care about from 4g is speed, hspa is proven as fast and in the majority of tests prove it to be faster than any current 4g network so I'm not sure why people have the need to point this out. Some people just need to nit pick everything. And yes 100 mbps isn't realistic for phones however for some applications like web connect sticks or new devices like galaxy tabs online gaming from everywhere will be a real posibilty. 100 mbps would be peak real average speeds would be more like 60 mbps still crazy fast. All in all don't expect anything like this anytime soon.
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What speeds do you guys get in your city? Ive never seen anyone close to 14mbps. I get about 3-4mbps in houston.

I live in saginaw,texas 5 miles away from downtown fort worth. I average around 5-6 mbs normally. I get great signal as the tower is down the road from me. My phone recently just got the hspa+( my phone had a bug that would only allow it to connect to 3g). And I was getting 2mb and down. Is your phone rooted with sense by any chance?
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omarsalmin said:
HSPA+ is most definitely 4G. Are you living in a box? Stop feeding into hype and do some research. HSPA+ is just as 4G as WiMAX and LTE.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
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Sorry, HSPA+ is most definitely not 4G. It's no more 4G than EDGE was 3G. It's still using 3G technology.
In that press release, LTE-Advanced is proper 4G, as it refers to. I can't see anything there saying that HSPA+ is 4G.
Edit - ok, I take all that back. Looks like the ITU have done a U-turn and decided that because so many companies started calling HSPA+ 4G, to make that a legal definition. Sounds bizarre to me :facepalm:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/

steviewevie said:
Sorry, HSPA+ is most definitely not 4G. It's no more 4G than EDGE was 3G. It's still using 3G technology.
In that press release, LTE-Advanced is proper 4G, as it refers to. I can't see anything there saying that HSPA+ is 4G.
Edit - ok, I take all that back. Looks like the ITU have done a U-turn and decided that because so many companies started calling HSPA+ 4G, to make that a legal definition. Sounds bizarre to me :facepalm:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/
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Hehe that's why I gave my source so I didn't sound like a *complete* idiot

It used to be that 4g was 100mbps but the itu downgraded the classification so now technically vzw lte, sprint wimax, and tmob hspa+ can all be classified as 4g. With that said, most tmob customers are still seeing threshold speeds of like 3 or 4 mbps and at most 6 or 7mbps. Vzw lte speeds under ideal conditions aren't much better - maybe 12 - 14mbps from what I have heard (but prob more widespread and no 2mbps speeds being billed as 4g). I believe under ideal conditions and current tech, wimax produces the fastest real world speeds but vzw and tmob should be catching up soon.
However, with an hspa+ capable radio the g2 (if you hang onto it for another year or two) should see full hspa+ speeds and I guess its technically capable of anything that radio spectrum can push out with firmware/radio software updates.
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lol @ people who didn't realize ITU updated their definition of 4G - I actually think that the 3GPP considers EDGE to be a "3G technology" in some regards - don't ask.
Regardless, in 2011 TMO is going to be rolling out HSPA+ 42 - that should merit a speed increase slightly on HSPA+ enabled devices and most certainly a latency drop.

tvdang7 said:
What speeds do you guys get in your city? Ive never seen anyone close to 14mbps. I get about 3-4mbps in houston.
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TheMan42 said:
lol @ people who didn't realize ITU updated their definition of 4G - I actually think that the 3GPP considers EDGE to be a "3G technology" in some regards - don't ask.
Regardless, in 2011 TMO is going to be rolling out HSPA+ 42 - that should merit a speed increase slightly on HSPA+ enabled devices and most certainly a latency drop.
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yupp.. then after HSPA+ (21, 42, 84, 168 mbps) is LTHE (Long Term HSPA Evolution [336-672mbps])
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/forget-hspa-and-lte-lthe-is-the-way-to-go/
http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com...HSPA_evolution_white_paper_low_res_141220.pdf
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holy **** nice.

tvdang7 said:
holy **** nice.
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Yeah T-Mo in the Seattle area is the ish. My sig is at my house with only 3 bars of reception...

The terms "3G" and "4G" are worthless. All that really matters is what the actually speed of the network is. It is ridiculous to argue over what is or what isn't 4G.

Sprint better buy clearwire out...not looking good

http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...

I though it was Sprint's plan to move on without them? I read an article a couple weeks ago that a bunch of Sprint execs had resigned from Clearwire's board. This was just before they announced (or at least rumors began) of moving to LTE.

Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.

I guess people thought VZW was lying when they said they'd have their entire 3G network covered with LTE by 2013.

Same here. On a trip to pa I used in pa in a certain spot for about 5 minutes
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Doesn't surprise me that Verizon will have their 4g reaching more customers in 1 year than we have now.. I love Sprint, but, they are behind at&t/verizon for a reason.
I have had an EVO since launch and only used 4g on a brief trip out of town. It now looks like I will be upgrading to another phone without ever really using 4g on my EVO. That's sad.
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its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/

sprint always tries to bring new tech first...
but always seem to fail in the follow through.

What spectrum was that phoenix testing done on? 2400mhz??
What speeds does Wimax have when there's only 1 user on it?
That video seems very promising considering how those speeds were faster than my Uverse.

slag02 said:
its not that big of a deal
Clear has been having LTE tests in AZ and the wimax equipment as I understand it will be super easy to upgrade to LTE - then sprint releases the LTE devices and BOOM LTE is everywhere that WIMax Was..
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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That's part of the problem - there isn't much coverage and where there is coverage, quite frankly it sucks. I live in Houston and leave 4g off because the coverage is so spotty.

iitreatedii said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/analyst-sprint-must-buy-clearwire-or-move-on-without-them/
I agree I've had a 4g device for almost a year now with 4g not even driving distance away...I have to travel about a little over an hour, maybe a little more, to get 4g in the city, they got to do something or have a backup plan...I don't think the kyoceras working...
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What's up with you and the kyocera posts?
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Lol idk I just feel they had a good idea but it wasn't the right hardware to put out with it, you see my point, I will definitely give it a chance but my opinion is no as of right now, I'm just gonna have to wait

I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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After Tmobiles new plan trotting after 2gb of use, I could care less about 4g as long as I'm not throttled. I could eat 2 gigs in a day if there's enough music to download.
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It is almost embarrassing how many people have not gotten to use their 4g on their Evo. I went to San Diego from Phoenix and I still wasn't even able to find any 4g connection. I've really enjoyed the rom experience with the Evo, but I was really looking forward to the 4g stuff.

Luckily bay area has 4g. It is amazing how just a few years ago dsl was screaming fast now my phone can blow it away.

I'll be another upgrading to an evo3d without ever really using 4g on my htc evo......4G!
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BrianDigital said:
I would rather have the expanded backend like T-Mobile has, where a normal 3g phone will pull down 5mbps. 21 mbps down is nice but what would I need that bandwidth on a phone. Embedded in a laptop nice, used in the middle of the country where alot of.people don't even have internet access that would be amazing
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I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/

ffolkes said:
I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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This is what I used to say about T-Mobile where I live in Utah. I average what your friend is getting on Verizon with Sprint's 3G network here.
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And with a really weak 4G signal:
Further north 4G I can hit up to 6,000-7,000. Not that I ever use it.
EDIT: Interesting that the upload speeds were the same lol

ffolkes said:
I agree with this, in my area Sprint consistently pulls about 200-400 kbps down on 3G. A friend with VZW showed me his 3G speed test results - routinely around 1500-1700. If I had speeds like that, I wouldn't ever even want or need 4G.
I like Sprint, but man their 3G is very disappointing. During lunch hour on weekdays, I've seen it drop to nearly 50 kbps. It makes me yearn for the days of blazing fast dialup modems... :/
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Sprint in my area is fine. Holds around 1mpbs so not to bad. However Verizon in this area kinda sucks cause there is so many people on it. Two of my friends had to tether to me while tailgating just to get some.bets off
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They are saying they will have 4g in my area by the end of the year ... I will believe it when I see it lol

MAD look at this

My buddy was in town and he has Verizon and look at his his 4g speeds man I'm mad.
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sprint needs to step it up. I live in San Diego and I don't even have 4g. Well spotted 4g lol.
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We all know that sprint 4g is crap
Please stop cluttering general
We'll get lte soon enough
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Tell me about it.
Just vacationed to downtown San Diego - no 4G. And upon my return back to downtown Phoenix... yep, still no 4G either.

I get perfect max 4g in manhattan every where but I'm lucky if I get one bar in brooklyn
That sucks causer I'm in brooklyn 99% of the time
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I was recently in San Antoino Tx and theyhave 4g all around the city from what I could tell
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yep, texas seems to have one of the best 4g networks, i have great 4g in dallas, cedar hill, duncanville, and also down south in houston and san antonio

Yeah even us suburbanites have the 4g in tx. I always kind of laugh a little when I see people excited about getting it in a big city..
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What makes me angry is that the upload speeds that EvDO Rev.A can do are faster than the throttled upload at 1.5Mbps on Sprint's 4G network. You can literally upload faster in 3G mode than you can in 4G mode. To make things worse, the average speeds I see with 4G are those that can be achieved in 3G.
Yet the 802.16-2005 standard allows 128Mbps downstream and 56Mbps upstream. For mobile WiMAX. Not fixed. It's beginning to become a joke considering the spectral efficiency of WiMAX paired with all the money Sprint dumped into building the back-haul for their 4G network. They need to stop throttling the hell out of their 4G network and take care of the trouble spots later. It's stupid.

I just want it on the iden frequency so our ping times r reduced
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Here in Denver I usually get 5 or 6 Mb speeds on WiMax, but I only turn it on when I have something big to download, which is rarely. Other than bragging rights I really don't feel much need for that kind of bandwidth on my phone. Reminds me of the people who overclock their phones to get super-high benchmarks. As long as the phone runs smoothly who cares about the numbers.

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What makes me angry is that the upload speeds that EvDO Rev.A can do are faster than the throttled upload at 1.5Mbps on Sprint's 4G network. You can literally upload faster in 3G mode than you can in 4G mode. To make things worse, the average speeds I see with 4G are those that can be achieved in 3G.
Yet the 802.16-2005 standard allows 128Mbps downstream and 56Mbps upstream. For mobile WiMAX. Not fixed. It's beginning to become a joke considering the spectral efficiency of WiMAX paired with all the money Sprint dumped into building the back-haul for their 4G network. They need to stop throttling the hell out of their 4G network and take care of the trouble spots later. It's stupid.
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Mutiny32 said:
What makes me angry is that the upload speeds that EvDO Rev.A can do are faster than the throttled upload at 1.5Mbps on Sprint's 4G network. You can literally upload faster in 3G mode than you can in 4G mode. To make things worse, the average speeds I see with 4G are those that can be achieved in 3G.
Yet the 802.16-2005 standard allows 128Mbps downstream and 56Mbps upstream. For mobile WiMAX. Not fixed. It's beginning to become a joke considering the spectral efficiency of WiMAX paired with all the money Sprint dumped into building the back-haul for their 4G network. They need to stop throttling the hell out of their 4G network and take care of the trouble spots later. It's stupid.
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Yup I agree its crap. I don't understand why they false advertise with fastest 4g speeds.
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Esteway.619 said:
Yup I agree its crap. I don't understand why they false advertise with fastest 4g speeds.
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And just calling it 4g is a lie... and idk where sprint says they have the fastest 4g, their claim is allways The 1st in 4g... cuz they launched the first "4g" network, apparently it doesn't matter that its crap...
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Very high speed I live in austin texas and get 4g almost every ware but the highest VERY RARE speed seen is about 10 mbps down and 1.8 up.
Normally I see is 4 mbps down and 1.5 up with full bars.....
Verizon speed are hell of fast there to bad verizon lte is not in austin texas

There is an easy fix for this don't yah know
Jump ship to Verizon, pay twice as much, be limited on your data, and you too can have super fast speeds that you cant afford to use

poit said:
Here in Denver I usually get 5 or 6 Mb speeds on WiMax, but I only turn it on when I have something big to download, which is rarely. Other than bragging rights I really don't feel much need for that kind of bandwidth on my phone. Reminds me of the people who overclock their phones to get super-high benchmarks. As long as the phone runs smoothly who cares about the numbers.
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Where in Denver? I was at Elitch's on Saturday and got garbage for 4g.. No more than 1 bar if I was lucky with constant timeouts from websites. Connections around DTC aren't much better. I'm starting to wonder if I have a problem with my phone...

I live in north carolina and i'm used to getting somewhere between 7-10 mbps down and around 1.3-1.5 up. sometimes it will jump from 11-13 mpbs down. it just depends on where you live.

nickwn88 said:
I live in north carolina and i'm used to getting somewhere between 7-10 mbps down and around 1.3-1.5 up. sometimes it will jump from 11-13 mpbs down. it just depends on where you live.
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Where in NC are you getting that speed? In Charlotte I only get 2.5 - 4 mbps down, with 1.4 up. I don't think I've ever managed over 7 here.

In general my Fiance's Thunderbolt gets far greater 4G speeds than my Epic does in the Tri State area.
Verizons LTE connection seems far more stable as well. Sprints 4G is incredibly spotty most of the time.

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In general my Fiance's Thunderbolt gets far greater 4G speeds than my Epic does in the Tri State area.
Verizons LTE connection seems far more stable as well. Sprints 4G is incredibly spotty most of the time.
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Not to mention average 3G speeds of VZW are 1.5 - 2x the speeds of Sprint... but so are the prices. I opted to keep my SERO premium instead of jumping on VZW unlimited data family plan with my s/o, like the Epic but now wonder whether I made the right decision.

I got signal!!!!!

....just long enough for this test.
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Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.

Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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3g isn't impressive at all but I am happy with my 4g speed considering its unlimited . 1.2 to 1.4Mbps download isn't great but I never use 3g anyway
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.

austin420 said:
my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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JohnCorleone said:
I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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Can you hear me now?
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We were supposed to have 4g a year ago and don't and won't ever have it. Its the iPhone users causing the data issues and Sprints poor decision to carry it on this old network. Im guessing people with good 3g service don't have many iPhone users in their area.
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MikeyLee said:
. Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.

poit said:
If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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I doubt they're doing maintenance. We're usually the last city for anything with Sprint, and this bad service started for me also right after the iPhone launch, it could be anything, but it coincides with that.
And what sucks is the week of the iPhone launch I was able to download the cm7 ROM in less then 30 minutes, now I'm lucky to get 1 bar of signal if I hold the phone just right.
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My signal has been wavering in the last few weeks. I go back-and-forth between 4 bars to none. I live in a metropolitan area that too was promised 4G over a year ago by sales representatives in-store. (Yea... no need to comment on that. I already know the responses, ha ha.)
If you are unhappy, you have three options:
Leave Sprint for another carrier.
Call Sprint and complain. You may be able to get some type of monetary and/or technical assistance for the issues.
Do nothing and enjoy the wonders of Sprint's "marvelous" network.
The last option is my tactic for now, as I want to give Sprint the opportunity to fix their coverage in my area. Though my patience is wearing thin.

MikeyLee said:
....just long enough for this test.
Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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I too get between 1.0 to 1.4 Mps with my 3g speeds.
You need to talk to sprint about getting air rave or change your prl to verizon or something. Those speeds are just sorry.

JohnCorleone said:
Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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Shut up man You're killing me with your "super" 3G speeds..
I just posted on twitter yesterday about this. I'm getting .25-200kbps down and 24kbps up. :-(
It's been like this for months. I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain. They are currently upgrading capacity in my area. I can't take this much longer.
Nice to see you

My 3g is fast and signal is always good where I live.. switch carriors if your area doesn't have good services .....
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ptfdmedic said:
I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain.
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Sounds like you're getting what you're paying for!
In all seriousness, pathetic speeds, but their customer service at least seems good. I can't complain around here... Just pulled 1057/370 on 3G.

I just pulled 653kb down and 459kb up. Not as bad as some (Rob) but still pretty pathetic.
@John: Between your super 3G speeds and the battery life shots Zigg & Paul keep sending me from their Nexus S's, I'm a sad panda here.

Has anyone else had problems with 4g connecting todayin the baltimore area?

At my work location in Long Island, I get the same speeds with Sprint 3G as I get on Verizon 1x (RoamControl) = pathetic. It is indoors but close to a window. 2 bars with Sprint, 5 with VZW. Once Prime is released, methinks it's goodbye Sprint, hello VZW data caps

Hang in there. I can honestly say I was in your boat for months here. They finally rolled out extra capacity in my city last Thursday. I'm getting 1.5 MBits/sec at last.
Before that, I was getting 50kbps down, or sometimes it would timeout.
But you should call in and file a complaint. I'd imagine problems tend to get fixed faster on the technicians queues with more complaints.

That network speed test that your using will get you mixed results. Change your closest tower in the setting and try again. I was getting the same results whe I picked my hometown kalamazoo, mi. But when I picked chicago. My speed went up. I notice this while doing a speed test on my home computer. Then when I had my wifi on my phone I was getting a third of the speeed I should of.
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Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

Deathsnuggle said:
DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ

Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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jamieg71 said:
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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