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What about Skype and Sip functions ?

Hi all,
I have Qtek s100 since exactly 2 years. I am very happy and even after relasing so many HTC PDA phones after that, I really did not think of changing my phone. Now I see P3600 as probable candidate to replace my S100. But in addition to size and processor, I would also be looking at some key features as justification to change. I am not going to use 3G or 2MP camera. so, lets narrow down to Free/very cheap phone function on this phone.
- anybody tried to install Skype client to make audio calls on wifi connection?
- Also anybody checked function of SIP voip client like SJPhone again using wifi?
If these features are going to have problem with.. I would still stay back with S100 happily.
AS

Skype works fine on it and I run VoIPSurfer for SIP without any problems!

Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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This is only available on the Eten X500. I finally decided to get this instead of the Trinity coz I dun use the 3G and the GPS is a lot better on the X500.

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is a limitation in Skype. Try using a headset. Not BT though, since the processor can't handle both Skype and BT headset at the same time..

With my LOOX 720, we also have a "large" speaker (badly positioned even if you wanted to ignore that it is a loudspeaker and put it in your ear) and a small "phone" speaker (placed correctly where you would put your ear), although FSC never released any VoIP app for the device (and LOOX is not a phone).
Skype (and other VoIP apps) worked as you say. Audio was coming out of the main speaker, plus they (Skype) ignored our requests to use the correct speaker (or didn't know what to do about it).
Then some guys noticed that the small speaker was ALWAYS outputing audio (in apps/games etc.), but since it is a small phone speaker, you have to put your ear on to hear it. Also this gives more "depth" in 720 audio (since the tiny speaker does its part). Anyway, that was an interesting discovery because it led to research that gave something more important:
A simple registry entry could shut-off the main speaker while keeping the phone speaker working! No need for soft reset or anything! Some even made a little program for this (which also keeps different volume levels for when on and off since eg. I want volume=2 when loudspeaker is on and volume=4 when only ear speaker is on). Toggle it whenever we want (I have a shortcut in my today screen for it).
So I am thinking... look for something like that in Trinity also? It should even be simpler because I am sure Trinity has pretty clear and distinct volume values for both speakers (since this IS a phone after all).

Maybe a shortcut to a registry key could allow to control the speaker volume... like in the loox. I'll try to search registry... Anyway, this is a known issue for skype, so probably they will be working on that on future releases, maybe it needs customization for every particular model. _http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=71698

Skype and Bluetooth
I use a stereo BT headset and it works great (iTech clip S38). I used another program to toggle, but battery life went to a couple of hours, even when not in use. If you Skype a lot, or even once on an international trip, the cost is well justified.

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is possible now with the last final (not beta) version of Skype (2.2.20 or something like that).
The problem is, this final version doesn't work for all phones. You can see the list of supported devices on Skype download page.
The Trinity is not supported on this final version. You can only use chat function, and when you place a voice call, the application automatically shut down.
That's why we keep running the previous beta versions, which work fine, but the sound come from the back speaker
I tried this final version on my wizard, and I confirm that the sound does come from the ear-piece, for the first time in skype history. But strangely enough, this 'new' skype is only compatible with 'old' phones...

The text found below was sent to Skype by me today
Dear Skype,
#1 please sent me a list of supported Pocket PC’s that work with skype and with a Bluetooth A2dp Headset.
The one I have now can be found at: http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/products/Pages/JabraBT8040.aspx and I works really well for windows media mobile.
#2 I currently have the following device which does not work with Skype for the Pocket PC with an A2dp headset. I am very upset about this; I really want to use your skype out service, but cant.
My Device Information: Unlocked
HTC P3600, Trinity
ROM version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12h
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I have installed the following versions of Skype for PPC
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab
kypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.20-Beta.exe
SkypeForPocketPCNew.CAB
The only one that works is the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab it works perfectly for the HTC P3600, Trinity however, "only" when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab, I feel, does not work with any A2DP Bluetooth headset.
I have tried the following A2DP Bluetooth headsets
JabraBt8040
Link: same as above
Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
Lubix UBHS-NC1 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
I think something goes wrong when the Bluetooth stack tries transfer the Skype audio to the Bluetooth headsets it gets all messed up with lots of echoes and sound disconnects and, latency and so on. However playing any multimedia files on the phone work perfectly through my A2DP Bluetooth headset.
Like a said SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab works perfectly only when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
I have also tried to use a whole bunch of 3rd party applications that redirected the sound to my older mono headsets. I tried three of them, and that did not work either. It’s something when the speaker sound gets transferd to any BT device.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/welcome/cart.php?target=product&product_id=1128&category_id=40
I read that It works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones earpiece after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cwIdCCuH2LEJ:www.etenblog.com/2007/11/13/getting-skype-to-work-as-it-should/+skype+Switch+program&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.
Update: 02/16/08
I Just got an ETEN x800 and istalled the Skype Switch and took skype for a test run ,, ya,ya, the sound gets redirected to the earpiece,,, ya, but it sonds like sh_t also..
Someone out there has to be able to Hack this mess.

DTMF ,Fring, PPC Skype, And A2DP.
For the Skype sound problem not going through the BT headset someone on this site suggested using fring which is a fantastic idea, however it’s always something... with fring you can place a Skype out call but during the call you can’t navigate company’s phone menu during the call like, “press 1 for billing” “press 2 for sales”. There isn’t even a dial pad. When I contacted there support department I got this:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting our support team.
Currently, it is not available to dial DTMF sounds on fring, this should be implemented in future versions. You can stay up to date on new releases from our blog http://www.fring.com/blog/
In other words, I’m not holding my breath.
Is there a way to transmit a DTMF signal to the input of a Bluetooth A2DP headset? I don’t mean literally, just a sound redirect, in other words trick it into thinking it’s me making the DTMF sound.
I can’t find anything on the net except for Dial-a-matic, which will not work. I also took a look at Pocket Dialer v1.03 but there is no way to redirect sound. I also thought that maybe Kai’s ContactDialer would work but I don’t think it does, or I don’t understand how to use it and get it to work.
I also wonder if all of these problems are salved on WM6 I was looking at upgrading to the new HTC P3470 but the processor is slower than the p3600.
God,, do I want to get rid of that stupid weird mini HTC usb headset, ridicules for a $700 phone.
I wouldn’t need to go through all this if Skype would just finally fix their PPC version to work with a Bluetooth headset.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/...category_id=40
I read that IT works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones speakers after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.

Work around for Bluetooth Handsfree Problem

I just got a TMOUS HD2 and had the same problems a lot of other people are having connecting it to my car. It connects to the car correctly, downloads the address book, but no sound comes through the cars speakers and the call doesn't register on the cars phone display. I searched XDA and there seems to be a bunch of registry change posts that don't seem to work all the time and disable some features. By doing the following I get it to work consistently with all the features enabled.
1) Turn off the data connection and Bluetooth in Comm Mgr
2) Turn on Bluetooth and connect (or pair) the phone with the car
3) Make a call
4) While in the call, turn the data connection back on
It works for my Land Rover RRS and stays working until I reset the phone. After I reset, I just go through the above procedure again.
I don't know if it works for every car make but it should work for most Volvos, Jaguars, and Land Rovers since most of them use common bluetooth systems.
Hope this helps somebody.

I am having the same issue. I have to manually connect the music stream. The phone stream always connects. Hoping for a fix from T-Mobile.

kevev said:
I am having the same issue. I have to manually connect the music stream. The phone stream always connects. Hoping for a fix from T-Mobile.
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My car doesn't support A2DP - the phone's separate from the audio head. All the car's phone features work though - voice recognition, conference calling, transfer to and from the handset, and address book and digit dial. I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix though. It's the WIDCOMM Bluetooth stack that HTC started using with the TP2 so there are over a year's worth of complaints logged with HTC and no sign of a fix.

well, not much to be said for the Microsoft bluetooth stack either. I have a 2010 LR4 and can't get my HTC Raphael/Touch Pro/Fuze to keep a connection. Hard to know what the problem is, starting a WiFi or GPS session often resets the connection, in addition to the random drops, sometimes mid-call.
When I tried an iPhone though, it worked fine, naturally.

Adventures in Bluetooth

Ok, I have the T-Mobile Tab, I have Skype and Google Voice working via 3G and Wifi but here is the issue...
I have tried 4 different wireless bluetooth headsets and they all react the same... They connect and pair with no issues BUT...
When you place a call the other callers voice is routed, as it should be, to the BT headset, however, my voice is not routed through the BT microphone and it uses the Tab's built in mic...
This is pretty unacceptable as you can imagine and pretty much defeats the purpose of a BT headset...
Any ideas, thoughts, or help on how to get the Tab to route voice via the BT headset as opposed to it's built in mic would be MUCH appreciated!!!!
Thanks in advance!

This was kind of discussed in another thread. Current thinking is that they modified the profile to not support a mic on the BT headset.
Until someone creates a patch, update or a custom rom, there probably won't be a solution.
This is the price we pay for getting the new toys right away. Once the dev's start rolling out the mods, I am sure it will be corrected.

dougvan said:
This was kind of discussed in another thread. Current thinking is that they modified the profile to not support a mic on the BT headset.
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Whilst this may be true for US Tabs, FWIW bluetooth headset profiles do not work with Skype on Euro Tabs either.
I've been trying it out this afternoon, and whilst my headset (well, wristset to be totally accurate) works fine for regular cellular calls, when I try to use Skype I only get audio out.
If I check the options for the connected device in the bluetooth settings, I have both Media and Phone profiles checked. If I uncheck Media, I no longer even get audio out with Skype (though regular phone calls still work ok on the headset), which shows that Skype is not using the Phone profile at all.
So, I suggest you look at the options for your bluetooth device to see if it even has the option for Phone. If it does, it seems that the headset profile is still there and it is actually Skype which is not using it.
Regards,
Dave

If you read some of the comments here, it seems that Skype for Android doesn't support bluetooth anyway.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks for the info man. I'll check it out on my Sprint GT.

Wonder if it's possible to put the Samsung Galaxy S BT on the Tab?

It is because the sound of these apps is being routed via the A2DP profile and not Headset provide is you are hearing the sound via the BT headset but the mic used is the Tab's

clubtech said:
It is because the sound of these apps is being routed via the A2DP profile and not Headset provide is you are hearing the sound via the BT headset but the mic used is the Tab's
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Should I try a BT without A2DP support??
Thanks in advance!

raqball said:
Should I try a BT without A2DP support??
Thanks in advance!
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Since my headset didn't work with Skype at all with the Phone profile awhen I switched of the Media (A2DP) profile, I doubt a non-A2DP headset will help.
The problem is Skype doesn't use the phone profile.
Regards,
Dave

I dont think its limited to skype either. I tried two other programs last night, neither one had working mic.
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BT works just fine within Skype when using it on my MacBook Pro and my iMac.... The only issues I am having is on the Tab...

I wonder if it would be possible to flash or install the euro BT .apk?

raqball said:
I wonder if it would be possible to flash or install the euro BT .apk?
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Why? Still won't work because the problem is with Skype on Android - it does not use the phone BT profile.
Regards,
Dave

No BT Headset Profile in any of the US Galaxy Tabs
The reason that none of can use their Bluetooth headsets with a program like Skype (or better yet, Line2, which I am a beta tester for) is that the Amrican carriers ripped out the ability to use BT Headset profile. Now some headset (such as te Jabra Stone) uses Audio profile, so it will work with the GalaxyTab, but we definitely need someone to break that an hack in a great fix so that we can get Line2, install it on the Tab, then us Bluetooth Headsets to do our communcating. This because the best (and cheapest) phone/data device in the world at that point. Is anyone working on that?

samtrego said:
The reason that none of can use their Bluetooth headsets with a program like Skype (or better yet, Line2, which I am a beta tester for) is that the Amrican carriers ripped out the ability to use BT Headset profile. Now some headset (such as te Jabra Stone) uses Audio profile, so it will work with the GalaxyTab, but we definitely need someone to break that an hack in a great fix so that we can get Line2, install it on the Tab, then us Bluetooth Headsets to do our communcating. This because the best (and cheapest) phone/data device in the world at that point. Is anyone working on that?
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Interesting. I am going to pick up a Jabra Stone and see if it works with Skype on the Tab.
Posted from Samsung Galaxy Tab

raqball said:
Interesting. I am going to pick up a Jabra Stone and see if it works with Skype on the Tab.
Posted from Samsung Galaxy Tab
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Jabra Stone does not work either. Just returned it for a refund.
Posted from Samsung Galaxy Tab

I have the nokia bt503 for a2dp. you need to long press to see option after its connected

Also works with nokia bh-104 but no a2dp and kenwood DNX6160 no a2dp

Dont know if this helps but...
Im able to use my Motorola BT S9 head set as headphones and make Unlocked Skype 3g calls no problem. US Sprint version.

dykefish said:
Dont know if this helps but...
Im able to use my Motorola BT S9 head set as headphones and make Unlocked Skype 3g calls no problem. US Sprint version.
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And these headphones have a mic built into them? And that mic worked for your Skype calls?

Bluetooth Headset Choppy Voice Quality

I am a Flash-a-Holic and have used every port available to HD2. Be it WM6, Android SD Card Builds, Android NAND Builds, WP7 Builds.
For a daily use I require the use of Bluetooth Headset for Calls when I am on the road in my car and even at work where it is usually difficult to take the phone out of my pocket for answering incoming calls, hence the Bluetooth Headset.
Although after using so many ports I sincerely think that the smoothest experience I have had on my HD2 is with the WP7 Roms, it is difficult for me to use it since Bluetooth Audio Service has some problems which I have not been able to find a solution to.
Mainly the problem is that I can hear the caller fine but my voice goes over as very choppy like the connection is breaking up or something. I have done the following in order to locate this problem:
1) Changed Bluetooth Headsets (Tried it with SE MW600, Jabra BT3030, Blackberry 665)
2) Tried all the WP7 Roms
3) Tried different SD Cards
4) Tried registry tweak suggested by XBMOD in his Rom thread
5) Tried turning off XBOX services
6) Tried toggling between 2G 3G, Data ON, Data OFF
So nothing works. My reason for starting this thread is to draw attention of the DEVs towards this issue so that they can look it over and would eventually find a solution.
Would appreciate any suggestions or workarounds that anyone has to offer.
Otherwise, thanks to all the DEVs for a brilliant WP7 Rom for our HD2's

I'm having exactly the same problem. It happens with my car blue tooth, as well as my Yabra and Plantronics headset. This thread will display a lot of the same problems:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/.../b53c64ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132?page=22
For me it is the only thing I'm not satisfied with on my phone, but it is important enough to maybe have to switch back to WM 6.5. I hope there will be a fix soon.
I think it has something to do with noise cancellation. When something is talking, it looks like my mic is shutting down. When there is some background noise from the other caller, my voice is scrambled badly...

I am also facing the exact problem. Sometimes it works quite good (when the other side is quite silent), but when the other caller is using his carkit or headset and thus has a lot of noise, the bluetooth voice connection keeps dropping. I can hear the other side quite good thoug.
Would the new Windows Phone 7 update fix this? This really is the one thing missing from this phone!

As far as I have read, the nodo update won't fix this problem. It is really starting to annoy me that there isn't a word from MSFT about a possible fix.... This is really unworkable...

Does MW600 works after NODO ?
Someone has test with NODO ?
I wanna buy MW600 for my Omnia 7.

[Q] Crazy???? Bluetooth headset and Skype

It is crazy to wonder if a bluetooth headset might make possible telephone calls through Skype? If not, is it a matter of software or hardware limitation. I can get my BT headset to pair, but haven't yet tried to set up Skype (I'm Skype illiterate). Is the foundation for processing digital voice to deliver to the Skype app in the Android OS for Nook. Might it be only necessary to change some flags to enable it?
Just wonderin'

I was thinking of doing the same thing. But I read somewhere that the BT on the NC has a really short distance, of around 1-2 feet. I hope it works

BT and NC development
boxcar8028 said:
I was thinking of doing the same thing. But I read somewhere that the BT on the NC has a really short distance, of around 1-2 feet. I hope it works
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Has development for BT ceased? Would be very interested to have audio/VOIP piped through the device to a headset.

Hi ... i am also investigating here ..
i paired my mono bluetooth Samsung Headset ... but i can't get any sound out of it ... i tried BTmono ... now i get some strange "wind"-Sounds...8)
My idea is to use the headset as Speaker and MICRO ...
Connecting to my fritzbox over fritz.box app works ... and i get a virtual SIP Phone ... but the next step does not work ... use headset as phone ... 8(