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Magic stuck on "htc magic" boot screen after Engineering SPL... and bad Nandroid, ugh

Magic stuck on "htc magic" boot screen after Engineering SPL... and bad Nandroid, ugh
Please help, I'm stuck on a boot screen, compounded by an apparently bad Nandroid backup
I just got a Rogers Magic so I can get 3G on AT&T. (couldn't with my T-mo G1) Rooted it, installed the RA-Sapphire recovery and took two Nandroid backups (one with, one without Ext)
Here was my starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
Plan was to install Cyanogen 6.1.0 (like my G1). This requires that I downgrade the radio, and I was planning on using RadioSwitcher tool to make life simpler.
The tool requires an engineering SPL be installed, and points to this Magic SPL Hboot collection thread
I've downloaded and/or tried (in this order):
Stock: 1.76.0010 (as noted above)
Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 (from the SPL collection thread the tool instructions pointed to)
1.76.2007 SPL (from the Cyanogen Wiki on Magic 32A with 6.35 radio)
Engineering SPL 1.33.2009 (from the SPL collection thread the tool instructions are pointed to)
So when I tried using the tool to switch the radio to a Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_3.22.20.17 [supplied], I got these results:
Stock 1.76.0010 - tool won't update radio without an engineering SPL. Device boots up no problem.
Engineering 1.33.2010 - tool uses Fastboot, I see progress bar, then screen goes black and tool reports "Radio update: FAILURE". Device now won't boot, hangs on "htc magic" boot screen.
Tried to restore - Nandroid restore issue noted below.
Engineering 1.76.2007 - same progress bar/black screen, update "FAILURE", and device won't boot.
Engineering 1.33.2009 - same progress bar/black screen, update "FAILURE", and device won't boot.
(I tried posting on that Radioswitcher thread but it's locked or closed or I'm just not able to post on it.)
I don't feel comfortable randomly trying SPL's, especially as I'm guessing there's simply a lack of understanding on my part as to which SPL is compatible with my current phone/radio. I'm hoping someone here can help with that.
Currently, this is how the phone sits:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.33.2009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
...not able to boot, not able to restore:
I can get into recovery, but it's also testing me:
When I try to flash anything from SD, I get "E: can't mount SDCARD:" If I select "USB-MS Toggle" then disable it and come back, then it appears to work - but doesn't give me warm and fuzzies.
Nandroid restore - either backup gives "Error: run 'nandroid-mobile.sh restore' via adb!"
That really makes me uncomfortable and puts me a bit out of my comfort zone - I was counting on the Nandroid backup as my safety net... never had any issues with my G1 and Clockworkmod recovery. :huh:
Thankfully, I have the trusty G1 I can plug my SIM card into to use as a phone...
But I really need to get this working or it's a lot of money, and hopes, down the drain.
Help - please!

I used this guide to root my phone to begin with - I see there's an engineering SPL option in there also.
Although I said I wasn't going to try pot-shot SPL attempts, this was part of the rooting process I followed originally, and someone suggested that I try that one.
I can't boot my phone so I couldn't follow that process exactly, but I extracted the SPL file from that zip file and put it on the SD card using my PC, then booted into recovery to flash that Eng SPL...
...and still the Magic won't boot up. I can't tell if this is even any different than the previous SPL - or rather if the problem preventing boot is a problem, if it's tied to the SPL (numerous SPL-swaps would seem to indicate no?) and if it's different.
Now I'm here:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.2007 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18

Stop...you have an eng spl... Thats all what you need!
You are working the BLIND...
For every spl there are matching radios...
For the 1.76.2007 spl, you can use any 6.35 radio for magic.
For the 1.33.20xx(xx can be 04,05,10) you can use 3.22 radios.
All the above are eng spl, which basically gives extends read/write permissions.
With the eng you can flash what ever partition you want, e.g. system, radio or recovery.
The reason you can't boot is that you have **** up your system.... That we can fix easy :0)
Radio/spl **** ups -> not to so easy to fix.
You have a good combo now, let's get you a good system.
First, you need to flash a different recovery to make sure it works with the 6.35 radio.
Download my fastboot commander tool (magic version, check my signature) and it will do it for you the easy way.
When you have the tool, go to magic 32A tab.
There you can find two buttons, one for 6.35 radio combo a.k.a new radio.
You also find one for 3.22 radio a.k.a. old radio.
The tool will flash an entire combo of radio, spl and recovery that matches :0)
so... this what you have to do, choose 1 and only 1:
1) use the tool to flash "new" combo, reboot into recovery and flash any rom that is for the new radio (6.35). Check out the development sections for roms.
2) use the tool to flash "old" combo, reboot into recovery and flash any rom that is for the old radio (3.22). E.g. cyanogenmod from this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_version#MagicCM6
Remember to flash the EBI 1 kernel or else the system will not boot.
The gapps (at the buttom of the page) are optional but recommend :0)
Good luck, and stop working the BLIND!

Sounds good...
Should I expect that after flashing the "old" images, that I'd be able to boot my phone into the stock OS again (1.5 with Sense)?
Or should I just skip that [if that's not a good test] and just proceed with loading the Cyanogen ROM?
Very much appreciated, and thanks again.
Also, one thing I'm concerned with - I've seen some notes along the way that the Magic requires a custom Kernel to install Cyanogen... I'm not sure what the Kernel really even is. Do you have any insight into that?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=How_to_build_a_kernel_port_for_CM6
I've got the 32A - but those instructions are hardly 'download this file and flash':
"If you want to build a EBI1 kernel port package to get it to run on a 32A Magic (with 288 MB total RAM), or a phone with the 3.xxx radio such as the Rogers 32A Magic and Rogers Dream, then you can follow the instructions below:"
...and those instructions are long, and most intimidatingly - vague (much is implied, not all explicitly stated).
Yikes...

..........

I flashed the "old", and the phone now gets stuck in a boot loop on the "Rogers" (before the "HTC Magic" where it was getting stuck before).
The recovery is still the RA-sapphire-v1.7.OH... is that the Amon Ra?
I'll take a backup in this state, test-restore it (I know from experience with my G1 that the "HTC Magic" splash screen will be replaced with a Cyanogenmod one, with the Cyano 6.1.0) then put the Cyanogen on there and cross my fingers that I don't need to mess with that Kernel procedure...
EDIT:
I have a backup that restores - unfortunately it puts me back to the original "can't boot" state, lol.
Anyway, so after I took that backup, I proceeded to flash Cyano and the tiny Gapps.
I'm still getting hung on the Rogers screen - the Cyanogenmod boot screen doesn't come up.
WTF, you know?
EDIT 2:
I forgot to list my current state:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Let me know if you can help, thanks

i think now you can boot into recovery and wipe everything and then try to flash the rom from sd card/

READ what is written...
You are still messing **** up...
You cannot boot ANYTHING until you get a working system on the device...
You keep "booting" to nothing because there is NOTHING to boot...
STOP for a second and READ.
I have giving you 2 options... do one of them...
The Cyanogenmod need EBI 1 kernel which you can find on the same page i gave you..
if you read the instructions, you also find i have written that...
Once again to be sure, flash EBI 1 kernel after the CM rom, then you flash gapps and you should be good to go...
Or flash "new" combo and download this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778083
I can't help any more if you don't READ before you act!

I did... wanted to take it one conservative step at a time... operating with a bad backup here... ;-) And that Kernel page on the Cyanogen wiki is just evil... it should have a source to download one and apply, for us mere mortals lol.
I downloaded an already built, already compiled EBI1 kernel, and that did work nicely. Phew.
Thanks for the tool and the help - I couldn't have done it without your help.

Okay, so question! I've got the same problem this person has with the starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
From this point, would I use the same process to get my phone to work?
..I'm a programming noob.

yawaemekat said:
Okay, so question! I've got the same problem this person has with the starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
From this point, would I use the same process to get my phone to work?
..I'm a programming noob.
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Does your phone boot into the ROM?

I should probably explain a bit:
So my phone is caught at the "HTC Magic" screen at the startup. It won't go on any farther than that. When I hold down the VOLUME DOWN key and press the END key, I can bring up the screen that states the following:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
The screen does give me some menu options:
HBOOT
<BACK> FastBoot Mode
<SEND> Simlock
When I press BACK, I get another set of menu options:
FASTBOOT
<VOL DOWN> HBoot Mode
<SEND> Reset Device
<ACTION> Restart to HBoot
<MENU> Power Down
..did that answer your question? ..i'm not sure.. LOL!

Yeah, so it's not booting into the ROM. Did you have root before? Did you have a custom recovery installed? Can you get into it by pressing home+power?

I bought the phone off of ebay so I don't know what was programmed on the phone before I got it.. :/

DonJuan692006 said:
Yeah, so it's not booting into the ROM. Did you have root before? Did you have a custom recovery installed? Can you get into it by pressing home+power?
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Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk

The HOME+POWER buttons bring me to a screen where there's a picture of a "!" inside of a triangle by the phone..

Your going to have to root using the goldcard method. A Google search of "root 32A magic goldcard" should get you were you need to be.

Okay, so I'm sorry to be such a noob, but I got everything ready for a Goldcard (cable and a new kingston SD), but then what I need is to set up the ADB which requires me to connect the phone to a computer.. I cannot access anything on the phone via the computer except for the memory.. the drivers won't install.
I'm using this website's instructions:
/theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/[/url]
So, the second step is to create an ADB, and then the third requires me to access the phone itself and unmount the SD.. I'm kind of at a loss at this point..
what should I do?

You'll have to see if a friend has a phone that you can borrow to make the goldcard. The steps will be the same and it'll work on any phone running Android.

problem into radio

I can't make any action because I update radio to 6.35.10.18 , and i can't open bootloader please i need downgrade readio by command within connect USB
my mobile
SPL/hboot version: 1.33.0008.
Radio version: 6.35.10.18.
Main software version: 2.15.901.4.
cid: tim__401.
cpld: 12.
product: sapphire.
mid: sapp10000.
security: on.
build-mode: ship.
I need downgrade Radio

Can you load into these modes?
Turn phone off. Press and hold Back + Power (to start into fastboot)
Turn phone off. Press and hold VolumeDown + Power (to start into hboot)
From fastboot-mode write here first 5 rows. It's important.

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.88 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.10.18
Apr 29 2009,02:28:53

As you have Magic 32A you can use this solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5526163&postcount=1
Goldcard is important. When RUU is installing it checks CIDs from ROM with CID from phone. If they are different - RUU will print error. Goldcard gives superCID and you able to install other official ROMs
After solution you will get new combination hboot 1.76.2007 S-OFF / radio 6.35.XX.XX (X - any number)
With Hboot 1.76.2007 S-OFF you can revert back to hboot 1.33.2010 S-OFF / radio 3.22.XX.XX via FastbootCommander
But you can stay at new combination and use any custom ROMs with tags [32A][6.35] or [32A][NewRadio]

my Android phone always boots in the RUU failed mode and cannot enter the Android Home screen anymore
kindly check attachment
I cant install Terminal Emulator
how can get code and make Goldcard

M.Mohamed2007 said:
my Android phone always boots in the RUU failed mode and cannot enter the Android Home screen anymore
kindly check attachment
I cant install Terminal Emulator
how can get code and make Goldcard
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
Search another Android-phone and make goldcard on it.
Or you can use computer with linux/ubuntu
After making goldcard you can continue flash-process by running RUU from my previous post

Dear
i tried by ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 but i can't reach . what i can do?

M.Mohamed2007 said:
Dear
i tried by ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 but i can't reach . what i can do?
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What can't you reach?
In ubuntu try to go to mmc_host
Code:
cd /sys/class/mmc_host
then explore directory
Code:
ls
You should see files like mmcX (where X - any number)
Then you can read CID by command
Code:
cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmcX/mmcX:*/cid
(where X - any number)

can't you reach? = I can not arrive
i will try and feedback
Happy Eid

Fastboot FAILED... (remote: not allowed) problem!!

Hello everyone!
I need help with my phone ASAP. I recently tried to get Ginger Yoshi 1.5 on my phone but I needed to change my Spl and radio to 1.33.2010 and 3.22.20.17. I managed to change them both but that's when everything started going bad. When I changed them my phone went from 32A to 32B, at that moment I thought something had went wrong so I flashed back my Spl to what I think it was the stock Spl 1.33.0013. After that it went back to 32A but the radio remained 3.22.20.17. I havent changed it back or anything because now my phone is kinda bricked. I only have access to fastboot\hboot screen, but when I try to flash something it wont let me saying "FAILED (remote: not allowed)". If I try to update Hboot mode it says "Model ID incorrect! Update Fail!".
I have been searching for a solution but I haven't seen anybody else with my spl and radio combination. I'm starting to give up hope on my phone . I don't know what to do anymore. I need some help.
Yes, I'm a newbie at this. I think this is my third time changing a ROM.
Thanks in advanced for any help and/or advice!
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-3.22.20.17
OCT 21, 2009, 22:33:27

Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.

nikosdd said:
Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.
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Hi there! If by that you mean if I can actually boot a ROM then I can't, it stays in the HTC Magic screen. Or if you mean if I can get adb connection with cmd I can't also because it does not recognizes my phone. All I get access to is fastboot and hboot, though it doesn't work either.. I try to flash a new radio, spl or recovery image but it does not works. Maybe I need a new goldcard? Since it says model ID incorrect.
Thanks for your help!

Your phone is MyTouch 3G v1.2 with audiojack 3.5" and it is NOT common 32A. Don't use manuals for Magic 32A.
You flashed wrong combo and it is main problem. May be this manual will help, but i have no guarantee
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/11/how-to-root-the-mytouch-1-2-and-fender-mytouch/
p.s. Megaupload links are dead cause US District Court shutdowned this site)
http://www.4shared.com/zip/hW3I1tfT/MyTouch35RootingFiles.html
http://www.4shared.com/zip/ALht1xbT/unlockr_Sappimg_mt3gv12.html
p.p.s. And you need goldcard. Must have goldcard to flash special sappimg.zip
Tech reasons of solution:
- you have perfected HBoot and can't flash anything by 'fastboot flash' command
- you have wrong radio (combo, cause hboot and radio must be together)
- if you will flash special sappimg.zip you will have 1.33.2010 s-off eng hboot. With this hboot you can flash your stock combo back (and don't forget about custom recovery for mt3g v1.2)

Yes my phone is the Fender LE. I found out that even though they say 32A they're actually 32B as well. What a way to get confused. And as you said, some links are broken because of megaupload no longer existing . I couldn't find the files that I needed. My phone is now fixed running Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 (I gave up trying to flash ginger yoshi, I don't lke the idea of having to change spl and radio).
After I found out what I had to do to fix it I thought that it wasn't so big of a deal, just flash a sappimg file with a diferent Spl and that is it, S-off and an Eng spl.
Though when it said "Model ID incorrect" I had no idea why that happened. I had to open the Hex editor again an re-edit my Sd card's code with the goldcard I had created before. After that everything went back to normal, I flashed CM6 and now my phone is up and running like a charm!
I've seen some other users with the same problem I had, maybe if someine would explain them what they need to do to fix it would be a good idea.
Thanks for explaining! And for the links.
This is what I now have:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.xx.xx (I forgot the last 4 numbers )
Running CM6.1.0

Now can not download the Stock rom with root for MT3G 32A 1.2 because all the link are dead. Could you please give a helping hand?
Thank

See if you find the rom in this link.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android

Thank you,
but still can't

Screwed up my phone

I was trying to put my phone back to the original rom (had cyanogenmod installed) and I screwed something up.
Phone now freezes on the boot screen, ADB doesn't work and fastboot says FAILED (remote: not allowed) whenever I try and do anything. (unlocking bootloader doesn't help)
I have a goldcard, but when I try to use it to load a sappimg.zip, it says (main version is older!) or sometimes it looks like it's working then just stops.
I've been trying all the fixes I've seen on this forum for the last couple of days, but so far no luck.
Any Ideas?
sapphire pvt 32a ship s-on g
hboot-1.33.0014 (sapp31000)
cpld-13
radio-3.22.20.17
jan 31 2012 14:43:52
cid: T-MOB010
mid: SAPP31000
mainver: 3.12.0.0

Still stuck with this

You can't boot into recovery?

Nope.

which is your board 32A or 32B and is your phone mobile operator branded (example: T-mobile, Vodafone, Roger, etc.)?
have you came across this link for your RUU?
if yes then try this link

It's a T-mobile with a 32a board.
I've tried flashing those ROM's with and without the goldcard but haven't had any luck. RUU.exe's don't work either.
I've also tried recreating the goldcard many times. I even bought a new kingston sdcard but it didn't help.
I don't think I can fix the perfected SPL because my ROM version is higher than the ones available for download.

AJAX XIII said:
It's a T-mobile with a 32a board.
I've tried flashing those ROM's with and without the goldcard but haven't had any luck. RUU.exe's don't work either.
I've also tried recreating the goldcard many times. I even bought a new kingston sdcard but it didn't help.
I don't think I can fix the perfected SPL because my ROM version is higher than the ones available for download.
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Read this post I think you have a 32B board but you are assuming it is 32A, same confusion happened with me when I was new to this.

It has the 3.5mm jack, wouldn't that make it a 32a?

I think I have the same exact problem.
myTouch 3G with the 3.5mm headphone jack
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Oct 21 2009 22:33:27
CID: T-MOB010
MID: SAPP31000
MAINVER: 2.53.707.2

Did you already try flashing the Engineerings SPL?
It won't work for me because my mainver is 3.12.0.0 and the SPL needs a higher ROM than what you already have. (I think)
Engineerings SPL v1.33.2010 uses ROM v2.53.707.2 which is the same as yours.

When I try flashing that Engineerings SPL I just get "Model ID incorrect!" with or without a goldcard
EDIT: Wow, i made a silly mistake while creating the goldcard, but i got it to work.
Thank you for your help, i hope your mytouch will be fixed as well.

Flashlights said:
When I try flashing that Engineerings SPL I just get "Model ID incorrect!" with or without a goldcard
EDIT: Wow, i made a silly mistake while creating the goldcard, but i got it to work.
Thank you for your help, i hope your mytouch will be fixed as well.
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your RUU is there in the list make a search in the list, use your main version to search which is in your case 2.53.707.2 according to your earlier post. Keep that RUU handy.
In case of AJAX XIII his main version is 3.12.0.0 which is unfortunately not listed but an alternative works.
example: In my case, on my phone two RUU works perfectly 1) 3.12.531.1 T-Mobile USA FRG83D and 2) 1.91.161.1 Vodafone UK DRC92. Even Engineerings SPL works on mine so have too many escape points if I get stuck anywhere. I have been flashing (playing with) mytouch 3g seen 1 year. Thanks to all devs they made it possible.
Dude also check hboot and radio if it is matching to your stock phone (time when you brought home and see it for first time in fastboot mode, hope you got me)

@ AJAX XIII: Did you try to flash one of those official roms with a higher main-version, just to get it running again?
3.54.527.6 BrightStar Brazil
3.54.631.3 Rogers Canada
In my case my phone tells me "Lack of heap", i think it's not 32A as shown (192 MB RAM seem not to be enough to unzip the files) - maybe it's working for you.

When I try to flash those the blue bar on the side goes up for about 1 minute, then the screen changes and says parsing.. sappimg.zip then it just returns to the HBOOT screen and nothing happens.

You tried both files?
Is there any error before it returns to HBOOT? I used a Camcorder to film it and watch it in slowmotion for errors.
In my case there was no error and it just changed to HBOOT when i zipped a sappimg.zip myself, but maybe you get an error.

3.54.527.6 BrightStar Brazil sappimg doesn't even seem to get recognized and the 3.54.631.3 Rogers Canada looks like it's loading but then returns to HBOOT with no errors.

Do you touch those files or just copy them to sd-card and rename them afterwards? Make sure you rename them correct.
Maybe you can also try
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and use the two rom-files from above again.

I copied them onto the sdcard and renamed them sappimg.zip. Tried locked and unlocked but it didn't work.

Maybe try "3.12.531.1 T-Mobile USA FRG83D" from official roms - but it's for 32B. Don't know what's happening when flash works.
Are both commands working without error??
Code:
fastboot oem lock
and
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
For me the lock worked, unlock results in command error.

I get ERROR [130]: MODEL ID ERROR
ERROR [155]:UNKNOWN ERROR when locked

[Q] HTC Sapphire stuck in RUU mode??????

Sapphire pvt 32a ship s -on h
hboot-1.76.0009 (sapp10000)
cpld-12
radio- 6.35.08.29
ruu
i tried with different original roms (stock roms) but in vain dont know from which country it belongs or which is the proper stock rom for it
i also tried with back + power button and volume down + power button
always comes above scene
can someone find with sn: Ht96rkf02355
plz tell some solution
thanx in advance

make sure your USB cable is working properly, secondly if you where attempting to flash a recovery (it happen with me) sometime recovery won't get flashed properly so phone stuck at splash screen (mytouch logo in your case it might be HTC) then at some corner of screen you get "RUU Mode" in red font, if it is so... then you might need this link, this link contain various list of RUU for 32a board and 32b board. Read carefully inside the link before you proceed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=659403
and also try to flash using goldcard
Good Luck

white screen with green writing shows the following:
sapphire pvt32A ship s-off H
Hboot 1.76.0010 (sapp*****)
cpld -10
radio - 6.35.10.18
Jan 14 2010
RUU or (RUU USB if plugged into computer)
only have access to ruu or ruu usb
fastboot can see device but always fails
when try to flash anything
roms fail at 81% when trying to unzip system.img with rom utility