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Making a backup of an SPL, and some other noob questions

I'm wanting to flash my HTC Magic (32B) to an Android 2.1 + Sense UI ROM. I've read a million HowTo guides (some better than others ), I've decided on my ROM and Recovery Image, got all the tools installed, and I'm ready to rock n' roll.
Only there is one little problem: I have a "perfect" SPL (1.33.0006, to be precise). Now the solution is fairly simple, update the SPL to an Engineering SPL, and I'll be able to go my merry way, however before that, I need to figure out a few things:
1) Is it possible to roll back to an older SPL? Eg if I updated to say Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 from Amon_RA's Magic SPL HBOOT collection, would I be able to roll back to 1.33.0006 at a later date?
2) Can I make a backup of my current SPL, for the above purposes?
3) What's the deal with Radios? There are plenty of guides and threads about ROMs and SPLs, but very little about Radios. Would I need to update my radio (RADIO-2.22.19.26I) if I used an Engineering SPL (eg Eng SPL 1.33.2010)?
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
Currently running stock Android 1.6 (which seems rather slow compared to 1.5 it was running before it updated).

If you can boot into recovery to flash a new SPL then your current one is not perfected and does not need to be changed.

I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart). Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.

karl_eller said:
I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart).
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You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
karl_eller said:
Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.
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Unfortunately they are not only shipping them with perfect SPLs, but forcing them upon users post-repair. Had a very unfortunate dealing with Fonebiz in Melbourne, HTC's only authorised repairer in Australia, they took my easy to deal with 1.33.0004 Kiwi Magic and put one of their dirty Aussie boards in it and gave me an equally dirty 1.33.0007.
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
karl_eller said:
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
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Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?

alliekhat said:
You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
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Pressing Home+Back doesn't bring up a recovery menu, but it does reboot the phone.
alliekhat said:
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
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Ok, thanks for that. I guess I won't bother trying to back up my current SPL
alliekhat said:
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
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It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
alliekhat said:
Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?
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Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B

karl_eller said:
It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
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Indeed, but if you read the guides fully you are walked through reflashing the stock radio when you're done downgrading. The guide I followed included flashing a sappimg.zip the basically gave it the SPL and radio of a 32A device, then reverting it back to 32B, so you're never stuck with an upgraded radio just because you have an engineering SPL.
karl_eller said:
Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B
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From my own personal experience it seems to me that this Unknown vs PVT thing is in fact related to the SPL. I started with 1.33.0007 and Unknown, while following the guide at http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/ my SPL was changed to 0009 and PVT, then once I flashed the engineering SPL 2005 I was back to Unknown again.
Would be very interested to find out what goes on with yours during the rooting process, if you wouldn't mind

Well, I just flashed the SPL to ENG 1.33.2010 by using this guide to make the gold card:
theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
And this guide to flash the SPL (using the provided 1.33.2010 SPL):
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
Flash went successfully, and the phone data now reads:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Time to start flashing some ROMs

Ok, I may have hit a snag. I rooted the phone following the Unlockr guide, and then followed the next guide to install a Hero ROM on the Magic:
theunlockr.com/2009/08/17/how-to-load-hero-onto-your-mytouch-3g/
Except I used a different ROM to that.
Unfortunately I now have the problem that when I try and boot normally, the phone will hang at the Vodafone screen. I can still boot into recovery (recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2G), and I can still fastboot, but it won't boot a ROM normallly.
Phone Details currently:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I can run 32A ROMs such as Amon_RA's 32A based image (as per the Unlockr rooting guide), but any 32B ROM will freeze. Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
Ok, about 5 minutes after post thing, I WAS able to get a 32B rom to work. This one, in fact:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624411
However I still can't get the Android 2.1 ROM that I want to try to work:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644275

have you had any further success with this, been able to load a ROM?

Magics thinks its 32A (Recovery Issue)

Hi,
I got a Vodafone Magic (UK).
It was on Android 1.6, so I reverted it back to 1.5 using the .zip file on theunlockr's site (After trying a failing at using eMagi's/Neoblade's .nbh file). I then tried to use Recovery Flasher to flash a new recovery, yet everytime I tried to flash it, I would only get a red vodafone screen where my recovery screen should be. So then I checked the fast-boot screen where it said all the details for my phone. And it read Sapphire PVT 32B HIP S-ON H which as you all know is wrong as (as far as I know) all 32B magic's should be G.
It was definetely a 'G' before yet must of somehow changed when reverting to android 1.5.
So after failing flashing a new recovery (from Recovery flasher/ Terminal Emulator/ Fastboot) I tried 'fastboot boot <amon ra recovery image>.img' - H version and sure enough it booted.
So my problem is that I know i've got a 32B handset which thinks its 32a.
(BTW I am in the process of rooting). How do you guys think I should proceed? Also can you tell me what precautions to take to make sure I don't brick my phone?
Thanks guys!

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Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
MAY 8 2009,21:02:32

Someone help please!

Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general

Radio ?
I think your problem is due to your 3.x radio.
Try to flash a 2.x radio, either 2.22.19.26I you can find in HTC's developer website, or the newer 2.22.23.02 radio you can find in the G1 dev forum.
DO NOT FORGET TO CHECK RADIO COMPATIBILITY WITH YOUR HBOOT

To get your Magic fully 32B - you must flash official RUU for 32B Magics ... or ...
this nbh for UK Vodafone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4884067&postcount=1
p.s. nbh for UK, so you probably need create goldcard as you have Vodafone NZ
Goldcard avoids Customer ID check

Please help!!!!i thing it is bricked

Hello
I tried to flash an original RUU to my sapphire 32A with 2010 hboot and 3.22 radio....I received an error while updating the radio..Now when i turn on the phone it shows me the Fastboot mode with 2009 hboot and 3.22 radio and cannot flash again..When it goes to radio the screen becames black
Please help!!!!

More info
in fastboot mode i can see
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0008 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Nov 3 2009,15:56:29
What to do??the phone closes when the official ruu tries to update the Radio
How can i restore the old?

boot into recovery doesn't work?

no only the fastboot!nothing else

Please help mee!!!!

nikosdd said:
More info
in fastboot mode i can see
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0008 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Nov 3 2009,15:56:29
What to do??the phone closes when the official ruu tries to update the Radio
How can i restore the old?
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You have mismatching radio/spl combo.
Download my fastboot commander from my signature and provide here all device info.

............................................................
Operating system: Windows.
Tools folder found.
Windows fastboot tools found.
The folder containing the IMG files was not found.
No Nandroid folder was not found - "Restore" button disabled.
STARTING PRINT OF DEVICE INFO.
-----------------------------------.
SPL/hboot version: 1.76.0009.
Radio version: 3.22.20.17.
Main software version: 3.05.401.3.
cid: htc__n34.
cpld: 12.
product: sapphire.
mid: sapp10000.
security: on.
build-mode: ship.
-----------------------------------.
Print of device info SUCCESSFUL.
This device does not have s-off nor eng hboot.
ARE YOU SURE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TOOL FOR YOU?.

is the phone bricked????

Yes and No... it's very hard to bring it back...

please tell me the way...!

i tryed something and now i got this
HBOOT-1.76.0008 and from fastbootcommander the same as previous...Is now easier or i made a ........???

Please help mee~!!!>.......

The problem is you have mismatching spl/radio versions.
We need to fix that by changing the spl version to a 3.22 radio compatible one. The spl should be 1.33.xxxx.
But also here we have a problem. Your system version is high. We cannot find any RUU which has the same or higher version than what you already have, and contains an old spl version (the 1.33.xxxx version).
What we can do is to change the system version. That requires access to the system or recovery. You don't have access to both... so again... no luck.
You have 3 options:
1) Jtag it (hard to find anyone to do it for you, and very complicated to do it yourself)
2) XTC clip (very expansive, better buy a new phone)
3) Try to run this command: fastboot oem boot
and see if the device boots into the system. If it does, KEEP IT A LIVE AND POST HERE FOR HELP.

mumilover said:
The problem is you have mismatching spl/radio versions.
We need to fix that by changing the spl version to a 3.22 radio compatible one. The spl should be 1.33.xxxx.
But also here we have a problem. Your system version is high. We cannot find any RUU which has the same or higher version than what you already have, and contains an old spl version (the 1.33.xxxx version).
What we can do is to change the system version. That requires access to the system or recovery. You don't have access to both... so again... no luck.
You have 3 options:
1) Jtag it (hard to find anyone to do it for you, and very complicated to do it yourself)
2) XTC clip (very expansive, better buy a new phone)
3) Try to run this command: fastboot oem boot
and see if the device boots into the system. If it does, KEEP IT A LIVE AND POST HERE FOR HELP.
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XTC clip got its price reduced by 83 % on their wesite (from 310 to 54 usd)

Yea... but is the phone worth it?
A new phone will cost you the same or a little bit more...

sir what about my case
sapphire unknown 32a ship s-on g
hboot- is for 32b(sapp10000)
2.22etc. also for 32b
after i flash sappimg.nbh, it became like that and i cant access recovery mode, bootloader only , but i cant change the spl and i cant put recovery.img. it says remote:now allow

The answer is found in your thread..

no it remains at the Fastboot mode.It vibrates and cmd stucks at INFO0 and after 2 minutes the phone does a soft reset showing the HTC logo and after 2 minutes again and again...XTC clip is 30 eyros and at ebay more cheaper..Are you sure that this will fix it?.Also if i try to flash a rogers rom with goldcard that has higher version than the current???But i heard about a risk that if it works you are ok but if not i will make the things worse...is that true?

And has HBOOTPREUPDATE = 12 (i thing is about hboot) and i created a goldcard Sandisk 2gb with SimpleGoldCard_v1.I took the CID of the memory stick from my other mobile HTC Desire

As long as you have mismatching spl/radio you will get failing radio flash.

Fastboot FAILED... (remote: not allowed) problem!!

Hello everyone!
I need help with my phone ASAP. I recently tried to get Ginger Yoshi 1.5 on my phone but I needed to change my Spl and radio to 1.33.2010 and 3.22.20.17. I managed to change them both but that's when everything started going bad. When I changed them my phone went from 32A to 32B, at that moment I thought something had went wrong so I flashed back my Spl to what I think it was the stock Spl 1.33.0013. After that it went back to 32A but the radio remained 3.22.20.17. I havent changed it back or anything because now my phone is kinda bricked. I only have access to fastboot\hboot screen, but when I try to flash something it wont let me saying "FAILED (remote: not allowed)". If I try to update Hboot mode it says "Model ID incorrect! Update Fail!".
I have been searching for a solution but I haven't seen anybody else with my spl and radio combination. I'm starting to give up hope on my phone . I don't know what to do anymore. I need some help.
Yes, I'm a newbie at this. I think this is my third time changing a ROM.
Thanks in advanced for any help and/or advice!
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-3.22.20.17
OCT 21, 2009, 22:33:27

Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.

nikosdd said:
Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.
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Hi there! If by that you mean if I can actually boot a ROM then I can't, it stays in the HTC Magic screen. Or if you mean if I can get adb connection with cmd I can't also because it does not recognizes my phone. All I get access to is fastboot and hboot, though it doesn't work either.. I try to flash a new radio, spl or recovery image but it does not works. Maybe I need a new goldcard? Since it says model ID incorrect.
Thanks for your help!

Your phone is MyTouch 3G v1.2 with audiojack 3.5" and it is NOT common 32A. Don't use manuals for Magic 32A.
You flashed wrong combo and it is main problem. May be this manual will help, but i have no guarantee
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/11/how-to-root-the-mytouch-1-2-and-fender-mytouch/
p.s. Megaupload links are dead cause US District Court shutdowned this site)
http://www.4shared.com/zip/hW3I1tfT/MyTouch35RootingFiles.html
http://www.4shared.com/zip/ALht1xbT/unlockr_Sappimg_mt3gv12.html
p.p.s. And you need goldcard. Must have goldcard to flash special sappimg.zip
Tech reasons of solution:
- you have perfected HBoot and can't flash anything by 'fastboot flash' command
- you have wrong radio (combo, cause hboot and radio must be together)
- if you will flash special sappimg.zip you will have 1.33.2010 s-off eng hboot. With this hboot you can flash your stock combo back (and don't forget about custom recovery for mt3g v1.2)

Yes my phone is the Fender LE. I found out that even though they say 32A they're actually 32B as well. What a way to get confused. And as you said, some links are broken because of megaupload no longer existing . I couldn't find the files that I needed. My phone is now fixed running Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 (I gave up trying to flash ginger yoshi, I don't lke the idea of having to change spl and radio).
After I found out what I had to do to fix it I thought that it wasn't so big of a deal, just flash a sappimg file with a diferent Spl and that is it, S-off and an Eng spl.
Though when it said "Model ID incorrect" I had no idea why that happened. I had to open the Hex editor again an re-edit my Sd card's code with the goldcard I had created before. After that everything went back to normal, I flashed CM6 and now my phone is up and running like a charm!
I've seen some other users with the same problem I had, maybe if someine would explain them what they need to do to fix it would be a good idea.
Thanks for explaining! And for the links.
This is what I now have:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.xx.xx (I forgot the last 4 numbers )
Running CM6.1.0

Now can not download the Stock rom with root for MT3G 32A 1.2 because all the link are dead. Could you please give a helping hand?
Thank

See if you find the rom in this link.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android

Thank you,
but still can't

[Q] HTC Magic bricked ? blocked on RUU USB screen ; S-ON ; Changed 32B to 32A

Hey guys !
I tried to repair my HTC Magic 32B (Vodaphone) and put the CyanogenMod 6.1. After some stupid tests I think I brocked my phone. By the way I installed a 32A version...
The RUU screen is the only one availible. This is what I can see :
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-6.35.10.18
Jan 14 2010, 00:14:58
I can use some fastboot commands.
I can't access to the recovery screen. I can't flash any image.
I can't use ADB, so I can't change the S-ON to S-OFF.
If I launch the RUU updater there's a freeze at 81% on a step (famouse problem because of a wrong SPL or Radio version I don't really remember).
I created a goldcard with another androphone, if it can be helpfull...
I hope somebody can help me I'm really disarmed...
Regards.​PS : Sorry if there are some mistakes in my sentences I don't speak english very well and I do my best.

LOL :laugh: you are trying to change thing which are never made to change, you definitely need a RUU, flash the Vodafone 32b RUU and read before you proceed don't download wrong file or else your phone will be useless.
RUU link
i use ruu once a month for my device lol best of luck

Yeah I ever tried to install a RUU update 32B voda (In my case 1.91.163.1 Vodafone France DRC92) but there is a bootloader error.
hxxp://lightpics.fr/images/3/mPEWt.png
(juste replace hxxp by http, you know...that antispam security)
But if I try with a 32A version (like xxx.4shared.com/file/ 203189441/59bd18ab/RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_305401.html) there is that freeze at 81% at the "System Update" step.
(replace xxx by www)
Thanks for replying I think this is a kind of tricky problem.

ya it is tricky, the hboot info u have provided looks messed up, so can you tell me your stock hboot detail, then I can help you better.
1: which board it 32A or 32B?
2: which brand it is google (G) or HTC (H)?
3: and radio and hboot?
your radio is of Rogers Canada WWE (RUU), your spl is of three different RUU
---------- Post added at 01:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 AM ----------
I found one RUU for your device of which spl and radio is same :cyclops:, as the one you mention but only its board is 32A.
RUU no. :
38) [xda-ftp] [4shared] 3.05.631.7 Rogers Canada WWE
use find(Ctrl+F) feature of your browser to easily locate it
see if it works :fingers-crossed:

Woah..I changed many things, including HBOOT, so yeah I don't really remember the default configuration.
The default configuration is a HTC Magic 32B "with Google", not Roger.
I'm not 100% sure but I think the HBOOT version was something like 1.33.xxxxx
I can't remember anything else.
Edit : You edited your post while I was posting mine. Should I follow your instructions anyway ?
Edit 2 : I don't wanted to wait so I downloaded and launched the RUU you recommanded to me but I still have the same freeze problem at 81% during the system update...damn
Edit 3 : I checked the default CID with a fastboot command and the CID is VODAP203 (seems logic because my phone is from a french operator). After a search on Google the HBOOT version corresponding is 1.49.xxxx

hmm.... I have experienced the problem you are facing and correct RUU is the only option. I am from India and my magic is shipped from U.S., I have to flash the U.S. version RUU and not the Indian one, may be you are also experiencing same problem. I hope your battery is okay and even your usb besides don't any USB hubs or USB spliters make sure there is a direct connetion between your phone and PC (some USB hubs are slow so a conflict might occure) just to be safe.

sorry for replying late, see if this works for your device, you will require a goldcard for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
also tell what is your main version

satanic666 said:
sorry for replying late, see if this works for your device, you will require a goldcard for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
also tell what is your main version
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I can't access to the bootloader screen, only the RUU screen so I can't update the sappimg.zip.

for starting the ruu process, turn off your device, manually press back+power key to load fastboot while your phone is connected to PC, then in cmd go to place where you have placed ADB then type
Code:
fastboot devices
you see a device in the list then proceed with the running RUU (currently i m assuming you know about using adb )

The command returned the string : HT93SKF07033
Thank's for replying again.

satanic666 said:
hmm.... I have experienced the problem you are facing and correct RUU is the only option. I am from India and my magic is shipped from U.S., I have to flash the U.S. version RUU and not the Indian one, may be you are also experiencing same problem. I hope your battery is okay and even your usb besides don't any USB hubs or USB spliters make sure there is a direct connetion between your phone and PC (some USB hubs are slow so a conflict might occure) just to be safe.
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hi i am from india i too have the same problem i receive the message on screen sapphire pvt 32a ship s-0ff
hboot- 1.76.009 (sapp*****)
cpld-10
radio-6.35.08.29
dec 8 2009, 17:38:48 plz help and tell the perfect ruu which will work

rs32323 said:
hi i am from india i too have the same problem i receive the message on screen sapphire pvt 32a ship s-0ff
hboot- 1.76.009 (sapp*****)
cpld-10
radio-6.35.08.29
dec 8 2009, 17:38:48 plz help and tell the perfect ruu which will work
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what is your uid when you check it under adb??
Sent from my Dream/Sapphire