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HELP! Can't boot android, recovery, or fastboot!

I did something bad to my magic (ION). I was tying to get a non perfect spl so i applied a rom that gave me a htc build. Fine . Then I was trying to get back to a stock ion build using the guide on developer.htc.com. I applied the radio update as read, and once I did, when I tried to reboot, all i got was the htc magic boot screen. I cannot get into fastboot, nor recovery mode. My ion was not rooted and had the normal recovery. The last time I went into fastboot it said this:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010
CPLD-10
Radio 3(2?).22.20.17
I got the that rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
The radio I tried to apply was 2.22.19.26I. Maybe something was wrong with the .zip that I created with adb?
Please help me. Is there anything I can do? I am not a developer or a leet hacker. I just wanted to get cyanogenmod but took a few missteps along the way.

Making a backup of an SPL, and some other noob questions

I'm wanting to flash my HTC Magic (32B) to an Android 2.1 + Sense UI ROM. I've read a million HowTo guides (some better than others ), I've decided on my ROM and Recovery Image, got all the tools installed, and I'm ready to rock n' roll.
Only there is one little problem: I have a "perfect" SPL (1.33.0006, to be precise). Now the solution is fairly simple, update the SPL to an Engineering SPL, and I'll be able to go my merry way, however before that, I need to figure out a few things:
1) Is it possible to roll back to an older SPL? Eg if I updated to say Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 from Amon_RA's Magic SPL HBOOT collection, would I be able to roll back to 1.33.0006 at a later date?
2) Can I make a backup of my current SPL, for the above purposes?
3) What's the deal with Radios? There are plenty of guides and threads about ROMs and SPLs, but very little about Radios. Would I need to update my radio (RADIO-2.22.19.26I) if I used an Engineering SPL (eg Eng SPL 1.33.2010)?
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
Currently running stock Android 1.6 (which seems rather slow compared to 1.5 it was running before it updated).

If you can boot into recovery to flash a new SPL then your current one is not perfected and does not need to be changed.

I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart). Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.

karl_eller said:
I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart).
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You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
karl_eller said:
Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.
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Unfortunately they are not only shipping them with perfect SPLs, but forcing them upon users post-repair. Had a very unfortunate dealing with Fonebiz in Melbourne, HTC's only authorised repairer in Australia, they took my easy to deal with 1.33.0004 Kiwi Magic and put one of their dirty Aussie boards in it and gave me an equally dirty 1.33.0007.
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
karl_eller said:
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
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Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?

alliekhat said:
You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
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Pressing Home+Back doesn't bring up a recovery menu, but it does reboot the phone.
alliekhat said:
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
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Ok, thanks for that. I guess I won't bother trying to back up my current SPL
alliekhat said:
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
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It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
alliekhat said:
Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?
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Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B

karl_eller said:
It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
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Indeed, but if you read the guides fully you are walked through reflashing the stock radio when you're done downgrading. The guide I followed included flashing a sappimg.zip the basically gave it the SPL and radio of a 32A device, then reverting it back to 32B, so you're never stuck with an upgraded radio just because you have an engineering SPL.
karl_eller said:
Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B
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From my own personal experience it seems to me that this Unknown vs PVT thing is in fact related to the SPL. I started with 1.33.0007 and Unknown, while following the guide at http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/ my SPL was changed to 0009 and PVT, then once I flashed the engineering SPL 2005 I was back to Unknown again.
Would be very interested to find out what goes on with yours during the rooting process, if you wouldn't mind

Well, I just flashed the SPL to ENG 1.33.2010 by using this guide to make the gold card:
theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
And this guide to flash the SPL (using the provided 1.33.2010 SPL):
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
Flash went successfully, and the phone data now reads:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Time to start flashing some ROMs

Ok, I may have hit a snag. I rooted the phone following the Unlockr guide, and then followed the next guide to install a Hero ROM on the Magic:
theunlockr.com/2009/08/17/how-to-load-hero-onto-your-mytouch-3g/
Except I used a different ROM to that.
Unfortunately I now have the problem that when I try and boot normally, the phone will hang at the Vodafone screen. I can still boot into recovery (recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2G), and I can still fastboot, but it won't boot a ROM normallly.
Phone Details currently:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I can run 32A ROMs such as Amon_RA's 32A based image (as per the Unlockr rooting guide), but any 32B ROM will freeze. Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
Ok, about 5 minutes after post thing, I WAS able to get a 32B rom to work. This one, in fact:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624411
However I still can't get the Android 2.1 ROM that I want to try to work:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644275

have you had any further success with this, been able to load a ROM?

Magics thinks its 32A (Recovery Issue)

Hi,
I got a Vodafone Magic (UK).
It was on Android 1.6, so I reverted it back to 1.5 using the .zip file on theunlockr's site (After trying a failing at using eMagi's/Neoblade's .nbh file). I then tried to use Recovery Flasher to flash a new recovery, yet everytime I tried to flash it, I would only get a red vodafone screen where my recovery screen should be. So then I checked the fast-boot screen where it said all the details for my phone. And it read Sapphire PVT 32B HIP S-ON H which as you all know is wrong as (as far as I know) all 32B magic's should be G.
It was definetely a 'G' before yet must of somehow changed when reverting to android 1.5.
So after failing flashing a new recovery (from Recovery flasher/ Terminal Emulator/ Fastboot) I tried 'fastboot boot <amon ra recovery image>.img' - H version and sure enough it booted.
So my problem is that I know i've got a 32B handset which thinks its 32a.
(BTW I am in the process of rooting). How do you guys think I should proceed? Also can you tell me what precautions to take to make sure I don't brick my phone?
Thanks guys!

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Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.33.0009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
MAY 8 2009,21:02:32

Someone help please!

Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general

Radio ?
I think your problem is due to your 3.x radio.
Try to flash a 2.x radio, either 2.22.19.26I you can find in HTC's developer website, or the newer 2.22.23.02 radio you can find in the G1 dev forum.
DO NOT FORGET TO CHECK RADIO COMPATIBILITY WITH YOUR HBOOT

To get your Magic fully 32B - you must flash official RUU for 32B Magics ... or ...
this nbh for UK Vodafone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4884067&postcount=1
p.s. nbh for UK, so you probably need create goldcard as you have Vodafone NZ
Goldcard avoids Customer ID check

Magic stuck on "htc magic" boot screen after Engineering SPL... and bad Nandroid, ugh

Magic stuck on "htc magic" boot screen after Engineering SPL... and bad Nandroid, ugh
Please help, I'm stuck on a boot screen, compounded by an apparently bad Nandroid backup
I just got a Rogers Magic so I can get 3G on AT&T. (couldn't with my T-mo G1) Rooted it, installed the RA-Sapphire recovery and took two Nandroid backups (one with, one without Ext)
Here was my starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
Plan was to install Cyanogen 6.1.0 (like my G1). This requires that I downgrade the radio, and I was planning on using RadioSwitcher tool to make life simpler.
The tool requires an engineering SPL be installed, and points to this Magic SPL Hboot collection thread
I've downloaded and/or tried (in this order):
Stock: 1.76.0010 (as noted above)
Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 (from the SPL collection thread the tool instructions pointed to)
1.76.2007 SPL (from the Cyanogen Wiki on Magic 32A with 6.35 radio)
Engineering SPL 1.33.2009 (from the SPL collection thread the tool instructions are pointed to)
So when I tried using the tool to switch the radio to a Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_3.22.20.17 [supplied], I got these results:
Stock 1.76.0010 - tool won't update radio without an engineering SPL. Device boots up no problem.
Engineering 1.33.2010 - tool uses Fastboot, I see progress bar, then screen goes black and tool reports "Radio update: FAILURE". Device now won't boot, hangs on "htc magic" boot screen.
Tried to restore - Nandroid restore issue noted below.
Engineering 1.76.2007 - same progress bar/black screen, update "FAILURE", and device won't boot.
Engineering 1.33.2009 - same progress bar/black screen, update "FAILURE", and device won't boot.
(I tried posting on that Radioswitcher thread but it's locked or closed or I'm just not able to post on it.)
I don't feel comfortable randomly trying SPL's, especially as I'm guessing there's simply a lack of understanding on my part as to which SPL is compatible with my current phone/radio. I'm hoping someone here can help with that.
Currently, this is how the phone sits:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.33.2009 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
...not able to boot, not able to restore:
I can get into recovery, but it's also testing me:
When I try to flash anything from SD, I get "E: can't mount SDCARD:" If I select "USB-MS Toggle" then disable it and come back, then it appears to work - but doesn't give me warm and fuzzies.
Nandroid restore - either backup gives "Error: run 'nandroid-mobile.sh restore' via adb!"
That really makes me uncomfortable and puts me a bit out of my comfort zone - I was counting on the Nandroid backup as my safety net... never had any issues with my G1 and Clockworkmod recovery. :huh:
Thankfully, I have the trusty G1 I can plug my SIM card into to use as a phone...
But I really need to get this working or it's a lot of money, and hopes, down the drain.
Help - please!

I used this guide to root my phone to begin with - I see there's an engineering SPL option in there also.
Although I said I wasn't going to try pot-shot SPL attempts, this was part of the rooting process I followed originally, and someone suggested that I try that one.
I can't boot my phone so I couldn't follow that process exactly, but I extracted the SPL file from that zip file and put it on the SD card using my PC, then booted into recovery to flash that Eng SPL...
...and still the Magic won't boot up. I can't tell if this is even any different than the previous SPL - or rather if the problem preventing boot is a problem, if it's tied to the SPL (numerous SPL-swaps would seem to indicate no?) and if it's different.
Now I'm here:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.2007 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18

Stop...you have an eng spl... Thats all what you need!
You are working the BLIND...
For every spl there are matching radios...
For the 1.76.2007 spl, you can use any 6.35 radio for magic.
For the 1.33.20xx(xx can be 04,05,10) you can use 3.22 radios.
All the above are eng spl, which basically gives extends read/write permissions.
With the eng you can flash what ever partition you want, e.g. system, radio or recovery.
The reason you can't boot is that you have **** up your system.... That we can fix easy :0)
Radio/spl **** ups -> not to so easy to fix.
You have a good combo now, let's get you a good system.
First, you need to flash a different recovery to make sure it works with the 6.35 radio.
Download my fastboot commander tool (magic version, check my signature) and it will do it for you the easy way.
When you have the tool, go to magic 32A tab.
There you can find two buttons, one for 6.35 radio combo a.k.a new radio.
You also find one for 3.22 radio a.k.a. old radio.
The tool will flash an entire combo of radio, spl and recovery that matches :0)
so... this what you have to do, choose 1 and only 1:
1) use the tool to flash "new" combo, reboot into recovery and flash any rom that is for the new radio (6.35). Check out the development sections for roms.
2) use the tool to flash "old" combo, reboot into recovery and flash any rom that is for the old radio (3.22). E.g. cyanogenmod from this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_version#MagicCM6
Remember to flash the EBI 1 kernel or else the system will not boot.
The gapps (at the buttom of the page) are optional but recommend :0)
Good luck, and stop working the BLIND!

Sounds good...
Should I expect that after flashing the "old" images, that I'd be able to boot my phone into the stock OS again (1.5 with Sense)?
Or should I just skip that [if that's not a good test] and just proceed with loading the Cyanogen ROM?
Very much appreciated, and thanks again.
Also, one thing I'm concerned with - I've seen some notes along the way that the Magic requires a custom Kernel to install Cyanogen... I'm not sure what the Kernel really even is. Do you have any insight into that?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=How_to_build_a_kernel_port_for_CM6
I've got the 32A - but those instructions are hardly 'download this file and flash':
"If you want to build a EBI1 kernel port package to get it to run on a 32A Magic (with 288 MB total RAM), or a phone with the 3.xxx radio such as the Rogers 32A Magic and Rogers Dream, then you can follow the instructions below:"
...and those instructions are long, and most intimidatingly - vague (much is implied, not all explicitly stated).
Yikes...

..........

I flashed the "old", and the phone now gets stuck in a boot loop on the "Rogers" (before the "HTC Magic" where it was getting stuck before).
The recovery is still the RA-sapphire-v1.7.OH... is that the Amon Ra?
I'll take a backup in this state, test-restore it (I know from experience with my G1 that the "HTC Magic" splash screen will be replaced with a Cyanogenmod one, with the Cyano 6.1.0) then put the Cyanogen on there and cross my fingers that I don't need to mess with that Kernel procedure...
EDIT:
I have a backup that restores - unfortunately it puts me back to the original "can't boot" state, lol.
Anyway, so after I took that backup, I proceeded to flash Cyano and the tiny Gapps.
I'm still getting hung on the Rogers screen - the Cyanogenmod boot screen doesn't come up.
WTF, you know?
EDIT 2:
I forgot to list my current state:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Let me know if you can help, thanks

i think now you can boot into recovery and wipe everything and then try to flash the rom from sd card/

READ what is written...
You are still messing **** up...
You cannot boot ANYTHING until you get a working system on the device...
You keep "booting" to nothing because there is NOTHING to boot...
STOP for a second and READ.
I have giving you 2 options... do one of them...
The Cyanogenmod need EBI 1 kernel which you can find on the same page i gave you..
if you read the instructions, you also find i have written that...
Once again to be sure, flash EBI 1 kernel after the CM rom, then you flash gapps and you should be good to go...
Or flash "new" combo and download this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778083
I can't help any more if you don't READ before you act!

I did... wanted to take it one conservative step at a time... operating with a bad backup here... ;-) And that Kernel page on the Cyanogen wiki is just evil... it should have a source to download one and apply, for us mere mortals lol.
I downloaded an already built, already compiled EBI1 kernel, and that did work nicely. Phew.
Thanks for the tool and the help - I couldn't have done it without your help.

Okay, so question! I've got the same problem this person has with the starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
From this point, would I use the same process to get my phone to work?
..I'm a programming noob.

yawaemekat said:
Okay, so question! I've got the same problem this person has with the starting point:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
From this point, would I use the same process to get my phone to work?
..I'm a programming noob.
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Does your phone boot into the ROM?

I should probably explain a bit:
So my phone is caught at the "HTC Magic" screen at the startup. It won't go on any farther than that. When I hold down the VOLUME DOWN key and press the END key, I can bring up the screen that states the following:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT- 1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO- 6.35.10.18
The screen does give me some menu options:
HBOOT
<BACK> FastBoot Mode
<SEND> Simlock
When I press BACK, I get another set of menu options:
FASTBOOT
<VOL DOWN> HBoot Mode
<SEND> Reset Device
<ACTION> Restart to HBoot
<MENU> Power Down
..did that answer your question? ..i'm not sure.. LOL!

Yeah, so it's not booting into the ROM. Did you have root before? Did you have a custom recovery installed? Can you get into it by pressing home+power?

I bought the phone off of ebay so I don't know what was programmed on the phone before I got it.. :/

DonJuan692006 said:
Yeah, so it's not booting into the ROM. Did you have root before? Did you have a custom recovery installed? Can you get into it by pressing home+power?
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Sent from my HTC Magic using Tapatalk

The HOME+POWER buttons bring me to a screen where there's a picture of a "!" inside of a triangle by the phone..

Your going to have to root using the goldcard method. A Google search of "root 32A magic goldcard" should get you were you need to be.

Okay, so I'm sorry to be such a noob, but I got everything ready for a Goldcard (cable and a new kingston SD), but then what I need is to set up the ADB which requires me to connect the phone to a computer.. I cannot access anything on the phone via the computer except for the memory.. the drivers won't install.
I'm using this website's instructions:
/theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/[/url]
So, the second step is to create an ADB, and then the third requires me to access the phone itself and unmount the SD.. I'm kind of at a loss at this point..
what should I do?

You'll have to see if a friend has a phone that you can borrow to make the goldcard. The steps will be the same and it'll work on any phone running Android.

[q] help: Very urgent!!!!

Everything was fine running ROM Magic Fusion 2.1 V5 528Mhz, unless some FC...
That why I decided to try a different ROM.
Went for this one:
Ginger yoshi 1.0 RC2 (android 2.3.2) for 32b and 32a now ^_^
Apparently this one asked for Radio Update. Think I did something wrong because the only thing I have when I turn on phone is something like this
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
Hboot - 1.76.0000 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO - 2.22.27.08
nov 3 2009, 15:56:29
Th eonly soluiton I found by myslef was try to flash the original RUU:
RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.1_test_signed_NoDriver.exe
But doing that it always freezes at 36% on RADIO update.
The screen completely white!
What can I do?
Someone said, in another forum, to flash a Stock ROM via fastboot usb, but I don't know how to do it!!!
And I'm afraid to do more wrong things!
I using windows Xp
Last HTC drives V 3.0.5511
Can somebody help me please! I need my phone urgently!!!
Thanks!
Sigla

Looks like you've briked your phone.. But if you can acces "Fastboot" you are saved !
First, download sdk drivers, take a look here, then root, then try Radio Switcher ... and flash CM 6.1.0 DS

32a device? shouldnt that be a 3.22 radio? not the 2708

You have a radio/spl mismatch.
You got 32B radio instead of 32A radio. Plus you got new spl together with "old radio".
Very bad.
You need to flash the 1.33.2010 spl to bring you device into a working state and from there we can fix it.
The problem is you got S-ON which is bad for your situation. But i will try to flash the spl anyway and see if i succeed.
If not, then does custom recovery work?

Thank you mumilover but I'm a newbiw in this (you can ask how a newbie done this mess!! Well, I did it)
I just don't have any idea how to flash 1.33.2010 spl... on the screen, fastboot don't come up, only RUU USB (in yellow)....
I can access only via adb fastboot (windows)....
Any hint you or someone can give me?
Many thanks and sorry the bad english!
Sigla

Download my fastboot commander tool (check my signature - magic version)
Chose to flash the spl/hboot -> navigate to "imgfiles" folder which is bundled with the tool -> chose the 1.33.2010 spl (tagged oldspl)->flash it.
If it goes well then post here and we can fix the rest.
If NOT, then you are kinda fu*ked.

Didint' tested yet, just because I notice you say it's only for S:Off
Mine it's
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
Shall I do it in the same?
Many thanks!
Sigla

No sir, it didn't worked
Anyway, thanks agian for your help!
Any suggestion?
Best regards,
Sigla