Hey guys, I just got my Iconia a couple days ago, and out of the box I noticed, but i was not sure if it was a problem. When the screen is turned off, can you guys see like braids/patterns on the screen? It is like two triangles with their tips put together and placed into columns.
that is the digitizer or w/e. Makes the touch screen work. Nothing to worry about.
msimindlessmsi2 said:
that is the digitizer or w/e. Makes the touch screen work. Nothing to worry about.
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Oh ok, thanks, bc I have a BB PB as well, and it did not have it. And I have owned a TF, iPad 2, and TP and it did not have any of this design on the screen, so I was just wondering... It is not much of a bother, minus watching a movie in daylight, but nothing serious.
its actually visible in all devices in the right light and at the right angle
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its actually visible in all devices in the right light and at the right angle
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Oh ok, because this is the first time I have seen it, and it is really easy to spot, just put it at a slight angle i the sunlight and it is easily seen. Is this the same with you guy's Iconia?
yes, visible on any touchscreen device. it's the digitizer. sometimes there are dots, sometimes there are triangles or whatever. depends in the digitizer.
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On the HTC/Google manufacturing vid for the nexus one display it shows how the screen is comprised of the LCD, the touch detection surface, and the glass. Well... I've just noticed that I can see the touch layer thing, or at least, it looks like the one showed in the video.
If you are under florescent light and look directly at the phone at eye level, tilt it slightly upwards, about 5 degrees or so, and you (well I) can see white dots all over the screen, the dots seem to be visible where the grid/crosshatch lines intersect.
Just thought it was strange, you can see it with the phone on or off
that`s normal, everybody can see it.
yup, just noticed it today ^^; (I've had the phone for 2 weeks)
I noticed it a while ago but I think this is normal.
Seems normal. At first I thought the glittering dots were dust, then realized they were aligned in a perfect grid.
I thought it was pretty cool when I saw it.
I'm glad that the visibility is less than that of the HD2, when I had the HD2 I ALWAYS noticed it.
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I thought it was pretty cool when I saw it.
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I thought "oh hey, my phone sparkles in the sun just like vampires from a certain teenybopper series!"
I noticed it a while ago and pooped my pants for a second 'cos I thought they were scratches. My face was literally like
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I noticed it a while ago and pooped my pants for a second 'cos I thought they were scratches. My face was literally like
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Lol,make laughed.
You can see the crosshatch too if you move the phone around in bright light while the screen is off.
I thought that was damn cool.
I'm sure my eyes must be rubbish now, I cannot see what you guys are talking about
GazzaK said:
I'm sure my eyes must be rubbish now, I cannot see what you guys are talking about
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Turn off the screen of the phone.
Now try looking at the screen (there must be a decent light) moving it a little bit in diagonal, if you look very close you will see the grid of the touchscreen.
I've never noticed it until today
It scared me when I opened my n1..but I quite like the diagonal lines. The nexus also has a beautiful purple hue to it.
i noticed today that my evo's screen has some sort of light warping near the bottom left corner. i don't have a picture to show, but i'd like to know if anyone else notice something like this. it's most noticeable when the whole screen is white (like a webpage) and then hold the screen in front of you with the top tilted slightly toward you like 20 degrees. i get a little diagonal light warping near the bottom left corner, pretty noticable.
i'm not flipping out too hard because it's not noticable except from this angle. looking at it directly straight on looks perfectly normal. but i want my evo to be perfect!
That is normal the EVO is equipped with a backlight so when you tilt it it will show
its not a hardware issue its normal dont worry..also were did u get ur evo???????
also im the first teen to play with EVO...LOL
i took some pictures, see the diagonal line near the bottom left. that really doesn't strike me as normal!
catpunt said:
i took some pictures, see the diagonal line near the bottom left. that really doesn't strike me as normal!
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That's just imperfections with the backlighting for the screen, it happens.
I can see the lights at a angle but I have to turn it completly flat to see the lights. Yours looks like its lighting your screen. My evo does not do that.
damn
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I would definitely take that back to the store I got it from if mine did that. Since it's a gift, you might be SOL, unless you go through HTC? Not familiar with warranty stuff like that...
I'd be pissed if that happened to me again. It happened with my Touch Pro and as much as I tried, I couldn't get a replacement or repair. No one would even acknowledge that anything was wrong.
On a very related note, I think it sucks that there is backlight leakage at the bottom of the phone casing. I hope this varies from unit to unit.
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I'd be pissed if that happened to me again. It happened with my Touch Pro and as much as I tried, I couldn't get a replacement or repair. No one would even acknowledge that anything was wrong.
On a very related note, I think it sucks that there is backlight leakage at the bottom of the phone casing. I hope this varies from unit to unit.
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My Evo does have this as well.
All EVOs have that light bleed on the bottom. Almost every review has commented on it. They've also said it really isn't a deal killer.
Guess some folks are pickier than others.
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My Evo does have this as well.
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It just happens, design flaws. I'm tempted to wait and get a later revision EVO.
I did read about the light bleed before buying. I do not mind the light bleed. Its not that bad on my Evo. I am very happy with overall build. Cant find anything wrong with the manufacturing process on my phone.
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i took some pictures, see the diagonal line near the bottom left. that really doesn't strike me as normal!
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Take it back. That is definitely not normal.
mine have that as well
the LED leak from the buttons is normal, the bent TFT LCD screen is not. The display should not look like that.
They probably gave out blems at the Google I/O. just kidding.
Funny enuf mine doesn't have the button light bleed at the bottom. I guess I should be happy about that
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Funny enuf mine doesn't have the button light bleed at the bottom. I guess I should be happy about that
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this is why i tell myself to never be an early adopter...i usually just can't wait...
atoy74 said:
All EVOs have that light bleed on the bottom. Almost every review has commented on it. They've also said it really isn't a deal killer.
Guess some folks are pickier than others.
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My EVO does not have any light leakage whatsoever.
I guess you could chalk it up to the Google I/O batch being the first batch of Evos ever produced. After all, aren't they Developer models? I'd imagine the final version meant for consumers would be free of problems such as the light leakage.
Hey guys, i just recently got the transformer and i was wiping fingerprints off with a microfibre cloth when I noticed two perfect circles near the center of the screen. The screen was off and they were outlined in black. Anyone knowwhat im talking about? Is thisnormal or a defect? Thanks
I have never seen these circles. Did someone use your tablet as a coaster.
I don't have any on mine. Can you see them while the screen is on? What revision is your hardware?
Lol noone used it as a coaster and i cant see them when the screen is on. How so i check revsion? Thanks
EgoistMusketeer said:
Lol noone used it as a coaster and i cant see them when the screen is on. How so i check revsion? Thanks
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They are eyes, Big Brother is watching... Sounds like a defect, can you take a picture and post it?
i wish I could but all I see in the picture is my own reflection. I'm checking out the tf101 on display at best buy as I'm writing this but it doesn't seem to have them, then again maybe they only appear in direct sunlight. Hmmm
Do you see them after you blink? Have you looked at the sun lately? LOL
Checked ours and don't have this.
I'm exchanging it for another, I've got a few dead pixels and some light bleed as well so I might as well
I see light vertical lines on the screen. They are more visible on a white background. I dont have to hold it too close to my face to notice it, i can see them even at distance of 10 inches or so. I went to bestbuy, and noticed that their display model had the same issue.
I have playbooks and touchpad in the house and i dont notice this behavior on those tablets, even if i look really closely. So its not a matter of screen resolution. It seems to be some defect with the screen. Maybe because its not a LED or IPS display?
I talked to Acer customer support, they told me to send it in for repair. I asked, whether i will get a replacement or not. He said they dont offer refunds or replacements under standard warranty? I dont want to send in my tablet and pay for shipping, only to have them reinstall the OS and send it back. So should i even bother?
I searched on different sites and forums ,and no one seemed to have mentioned this issue. But on Engadget review, they state "Pixels visible with naked eye" as one of the negatives, and the tablet i saw at bestbuy had the similar issue, so it can not just be me only. Maybe people dont really care to notice it? You will notice it more when you tilt up the tablet a little.
unfortunately, it's a "feature" of this tab. I knew ahead of time before I bought my tab because of a review but didn't think I would notice.
I only notice it now with the screen off or outside.
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Somairotevoli said:
unfortunately, it's a "feature" of this tab. I knew ahead of time before I bought my tab because of a review but didn't think I would notice.
I only notice it now with the screen off or outside.
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How do u notice it with screen off?? I am not talking about the "dots" on the screen which can be seen with screen off. These are very light vertical lines placed VERY close to each other. Maybe they are just pixels, but why are they so visible? My macbook pro 13" looks better and it has same resolution
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How do u notice it with screen off?? I am not talking about the "dots" on the screen which can be seen with screen off. These are very light vertical lines placed VERY close to each other. Maybe they are just pixels, but why are they so visible? My macbook pro 13" looks better and it has same resolution
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do not compare laptop with tablet. i'm sure all of a500 have same issue.
if u don't like its screen u should sell it and buy another tablet.
^ Not true. Neither my A500 or A101 suffer from these vertical lines the OP describes.
Lots of times eexplain a issue diffrently then others..
If what you are seeing is consistent. if its a kinda exact set of dots and lines in a grid on the device.. this is the DIGITIZER .. this can be seen easly on the a500. all devices have it but for some reason the grid is some type of reflective material instead of dull . this makes it easy to see on the iconia..
This is a very common complaint about the a500 tablet... to know if its this for sure go out in the bright sun .. tilt your screen around and it will come into very clear view...
good luck and i do hope this is what you are seeing. if not sending it back might be the only option . if your not under warranty you can try opening the case and check the display connectors.
He explicitly said it wasn't the digitizer, or "dots" as he put it.
same here
I cansee all the pixels with my naked eyes. Its worse than my arm11 cheap android phone..
sw6lee said:
I cansee all the pixels with my naked eyes. Its worse than my arm11 cheap android phone..
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I used a magnifying glass and don't see anything.
shaun298 said:
I used a magnifying glass and don't see anything.
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Its expecially noticible on white background or light colours like this xda forum web page. Don't look close to the screen, its hard to see it like that, but just looking at the screen normally, I can see full of pixels..not a HUGE problem, but its a little bit annoying..
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He explicitly said it wasn't the digitizer, or "dots" as he put it.
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oops i do not know how i did not read that.. Sorry ..
call me dumb blonde .. Giggles.... I once had a issue long ago with the cable from my screen to the mb came loose.. took it apart and pushed it back on. and a drop of silicone to hold.. not stupid tape as acer does.
Thanks for the input everyone
I do believe you're seeing the red subpixels of the LCD. While they are extremely tiny, they seem to be slightly more noticeable than the blue and green, especially on a white screen. These are the only vertical lines I can think of besides the obvious digitizer lines you see when the screen is off under sunlight. Further reading (including illustrative image): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel
HideyoshiJP said:
I do believe you're seeing the red subpixels of the LCD. While they are extremely tiny, they seem to be slightly more noticeable than the blue and green, especially on a white screen. These are the only vertical lines I can think of besides the obvious digitizer lines you see when the screen is off under sunlight. Further reading (including illustrative image): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel
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Yea upon looking very closely, they seems to be the pixels. Maybe they are more visible on this tablet because its just an LCD display as opposed to IPS as found on other tablets. Like i said, i noticed same thing on bestbuy display model as well.
With apologies to Arthur C. Clarke:
My god, it's full of pixels...
My mind is blown... people are seriously able to detect individual pixels when there are almost 150 per inch on this screen. I'm not sure I could see 150 individual anythings in one inch.
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My mind is blown... people are seriously able to detect individual pixels when there are almost 150 per inch on this screen. I'm not sure I could see 150 individual anythings in one inch.
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Um.. because there is something wrong with the iconia a500 screen?
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Um.. because there is something wrong with the iconia a500 screen?
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There is NOTHING "wrong" with it, it's just the way it's been designed. Whether you like that or not doesn't have a damn thing to do with that. It's not "wrong".
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There is NOTHING "wrong" with it, it's just the way it's been designed. Whether you like that or not doesn't have a damn thing to do with that. It's not "wrong".
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Well, then its not well designed. That's what i wanted to say. People shouldn't be able to see full of pixels on this 720p pixel resolution on a 10.1 inch screen. Compare with other tablets; they may have pixels in texts, but not in any light background.
I can only see the subpixels with my nose to it on a bright white screen. At 149 ppi, this is pretty normal.
Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each
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Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each
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are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?
Kearkan said:
are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?
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Under certain light conditions there appears to be marks in the glass and it's all diamonds tesselated together. A photo doesn't show anything but ill be uploading one in a while
I've never noticed anything like that.
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Doesn't show any of the diamond-ing I saw but here it is. I could only see it when there were many lights around and only when viewing at an certain angle.
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i dont think images will allow us to see the problem, maybe even point them out with a stylus ,you could use a phone to make a video panning around views, to clearly display the problem and youtube it here :good:
yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them
jakeellis01 said:
yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them
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Alright. Thanks for the info.
I think you're just seeing the digitizer.. Pretty normal to see it under certain conditions. Mainly with the screen off though. You shouldnt really see anything with the screen on.