CPU: 800mhz. Governor: Smartass. Homescreen scrolling: unbearably slow. - Nexus S General

Anyone know why?
Oxygen 2.2.2, Smartass Governor, underclocked to 800mhz.
I've seen many people state that there was no appreciable difference from 1000-800 mhz.
Thanks.

SComp23 said:
Anyone know why?
Oxygen 2.2.2, Smartass Governor, underclocked to 800mhz.
I've seen many people state that there was no appreciable difference from 1000-800 mhz.
Thanks.
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use the ondemand governor. smartass on the ns sucks.

SComp23 said:
Anyone know why?
Oxygen 2.2.2, Smartass Governor, underclocked to 800mhz.
I've seen many people state that there was no appreciable difference from 1000-800 mhz.
Thanks.
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Smartass is probably not ramping up the speed as moving the home screens is not taxing on the cpu. Thus your phone is likely running at your min CPU speed. Try setting a different governor or raising the min CPU speed.
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SComp23 said:
Anyone know why?
Oxygen 2.2.2, Smartass Governor, underclocked to 800mhz.
I've seen many people state that there was no appreciable difference from 1000-800 mhz.
Thanks.
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What kernel do you use? Try netarchys for stock. Then change to smartass with 200 min 800 max mhz.
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obsanity said:
What kernel do you use? Try netarchys for stock. Then change to smartass with 200 min 800 max mhz.
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Netarchy.
I changed it back to On Demand, 100mhz/800mhz. Problem solved.

SComp23 said:
Netarchy.
I changed it back to On Demand, 100mhz/800mhz. Problem solved.
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Then it must be something with the oxygen ROM because I'm on CM7 and it doesn't make any difference smartass or on demand.
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simms22 said:
use the ondemand governor. smartass on the ns sucks.
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I just had another person in another thread swear that smartass was the best on Oxygen for battery life and performance. I'm confused now...
To be fair, I've experimented with interactive, on demand and smartass all at 800mhz and not noticed any difference in either performance nor battery life.
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LordLugard said:
I just had another person in another thread swear that smartass was the best on Oxygen for battery life and performance. I'm confused now...
To be fair, I've experimented with interactive, on demand and smartass all at 800mhz and not noticed any difference in either performance nor battery life.
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Not all phones react the same.
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Rem3Dy said:
Not all phones react the same.
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Why would my NS4G running Oxygen and yours running the same rom and settings behave differently?
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General rule of thumb (for my phone anyway):
1200MHz, ondemand governor. Ondemand works the best on the NS :O

khartaras said:
General rule of thumb (for my phone anyway):
1200MHz, ondemand governor. Ondemand works the best on the NS :O
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How's that on battery though?
After running at 800MHz, I really haven't noticed an appreciable decline in performance, but I have noticed decreased battery consumption.

LordLugard said:
Why would my NS4G running Oxygen and yours running the same rom and settings behave differently?
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Not all hardware is equal. My CPU may be able to run lower voltages than yours can. Your CPU may OC higher than mine etc. There could be a setting in a rom or kernel that your phone runs fine, but may cause mine to reboot.
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Governor setting recommendations.

Besides smartass governor what is the next best setting to use?
This is with GPA17 and Pete's modified kernel.
using Tapatalk.
If you don't mind random wakeup lag I'd stay with smartass, ofc I can't tell you how BuglessPete did optimize his combo (ROM/kernel) in regards to a certain governor setting. My #1 is ondemand, #2 smartass.
I've been underclocking and undervolting and getting amazing battery using either ondemand or interactive, not sure what the difference between the govereners is, seems to me that clock speed and voltage seem to have the biggest effect on battery life, and performance wise I can't tell a difference between the different governers
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Smart ass is good when you put your phone a lot of time in stand by mode,
Ondemand is the best
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RcrdBrt said:
Ondemand is the best.
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Thats what I'm using now. Thanks for the replies.
using Tapatalk.
I'm assuming this all holds true for when using SetCPU as well? I have it set to max 800mhz, min 100mhz and a custom profile for "screen off" at max 400mhz and min 100mhz, all "on demand". I'm on stock rooted ROM GRJ90, kernel is by the pete alfonso dude...
smartass lowers the cpu when the screen is off. if you're always turning the screen off/on, this can slow down the phone/cause instability.
ondemand is very stable for me

Best I/O Scheduler and CPU Governor on Glitch

I am using CM7 ROM and Glitch kernel together on the Verizon Fascinate and was just wondering what everyone is using for the I/O Scheduler and the CPU Governor with Voltage control.
I have mine OC'd to 1.5GHz and using bfq and performance.
that setup you are using will suck down battery in no time. Im running v13 from paid glitch app, smartass v2 with deadline and underclocked to 800mhz and get 5 hours of ACTUAL PHONE USE/SCREEN ON TIME and about a full day before needing a re-charge on an 1800ma samaung battery and the phone still flys. zero lag! You really dont need to run any more than 1 ghz, but 1.2ghz will give you crazy speed and still allow for some good batterylife. 1.5 is overkill.
davwman said:
that setup you are using will suck down battery in no time. Im running v13 from paid glitch app, smartass v2 with deadline and underclocked to 800mhz and get 5 hours of ACTUAL PHONE USE/SCREEN ON TIME and about a full day before needing a re-charge on an 1800ma samaung battery and the phone still flys. zero lag! You really dont need to run any more than 1 ghz, but 1.2ghz will give you crazy speed and still allow for some good batterylife. 1.5 is overkill.
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smartass is best in my opinion. It seems to run lower clocks more often when high clock is not needed.. I don't have smartass v2 for some reason
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I use cfq and smartassv2. Here is a thread with explanations of all of the schedulers and governers, how they work and what ones are the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309698
Using noop/smartass the last day or so...seems to be running smooth.
Smartass never seems to go below 400mhz on my phone. I've been using OnDemand.
I haven't really noticed any performance difference with any of the IO schedulers. Probably because it's flash and not a disk based drive in the phones.
jimv2000 said:
Smartass never seems to go below 400mhz on my phone. I've been using OnDemand.
I haven't really noticed any performance difference with any of the IO schedulers. Probably because it's flash and not a disk based drive in the phones.
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actually, I just noticed that as well. interesting find. Ill give ondemand with deadline a shot.
sageDieu said:
I use cfq and smartassv2. Here is a thread with explanations of all of the schedulers and governers, how they work and what ones are the best.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309698
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Thanks! This is an awesome post!
davwman said:
that setup you are using will suck down battery in no time. Im running v13 from paid glitch app, smartass v2 with deadline and underclocked to 800mhz and get 5 hours of ACTUAL PHONE USE/SCREEN ON TIME and about a full day before needing a re-charge on an 1800ma samaung battery and the phone still flys. zero lag! You really dont need to run any more than 1 ghz, but 1.2ghz will give you crazy speed and still allow for some good batterylife. 1.5 is overkill.
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I do have it a little overkill, but I enjoy the speed when using some apps like games. My battery does last a whole day however with the 1800ma battery life, but then again all I use my phone for during the day is texting or VNC. I'm gonna try the smartass V2 and Deadline. Thanks!
I do quite a bit of gaming on my device (9mm, Dungeon Defenders, etc...). Overclock is set at 1.4 no UV, with absolutely no lock ups. BFQ and smartass yield the highest fps for me on V13RC.
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I thought we weren't supposed to use performance because it doesn't respect thermal safeguards. Am I correct?
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bobloblaw1 said:
I thought we weren't supposed to use performance because it doesn't respect thermal safeguards. Am I correct?
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I did not know that
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Performance would be a bad idea over long periods of time. Essentially since it runs the phone at the highest possible frequency for 100% of the time, it stresses the CPU much more than any other option. This could cause overheating if used for too long, not to mention the toll on your battery. We all assume that it would decrease the life of your processor because it logically could, but that isn't a big deal sienc you'll likely be upgrading long before the processor would begin to fail regardless of what you do with it now.
lordnikko said:
I do quite a bit of gaming on my device (9mm, Dungeon Defenders, etc...). Overclock is set at 1.4 no UV, with absolutely no lock ups. BFQ and smartass yield the highest fps for me on V13RC.
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Interesting, when I set BFQ and Smartass on mine I get force closes on the simple apps, for instance the internet browser or file viewer. But when I play games on it I dont get any force closes on the games.
Maybe try clearing data on voltage control & reflashing kernel. I have been running my current configuration on MIUI, CM7, and now Pool Party for the last 90 days or so with no issues.
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Ok will do thanks!
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Is performance save
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Enyo. said:
Is performance save
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?
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Enyo. said:
Is performance save
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Assuming you mean "safe" then yes over short periods of time it's fine. If you tried to run at a high clock on performance all the time you would probably get heat and battery life problems.
I'm running miui and glitch v12 and I find it very strange that my phone runs really good (almost as good as any combination that I tested) on conservative governor.
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I'm running miui and glitch v12 and I find it very strange that my phone runs really good (almost as good as any combination that I tested) on conservative governor.
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Thats not strange at all really. I've had it last multiple days with data and everything off, conservative, and underclocled to 800mhz when I needed to be away from a charger for a while.
and it performed really well.
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Show off your OC and UV settings here.

Every TF is different. Someone has reported being able to unvervolt by -250 or more. I don't know how the hell he did it. Anyway, I thought I'd start this thread to let people show off their OC and UV settings. I thought I could get a feel on what the stable limits are.
Remember, guys, it's only considered stable if the camera doesn't freeze. I don't care how much stress test you do. If your camera doesn't work, then it's not stable.
The 2 lowest clock settings there are, it's like 250 and 320 mhz or something I can run a 250 undervolt. This is extremely useful because I run on interactive and my tablet runs on almost no battery at all while on standby.
As for my underclocks up from that to about 1590s(My tablet can't handle 1600s) I have a steady 65 undervolt for all frequencies. I found battery life to be amazing...
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Hi there! What are you using to undervolt and/or overclock? I'm using CPU Master Free to overclock, but it doesn't have any undervolting options.
EDIT: also, which kernel are you using that supports Undervolting and Overclock?
Prime kernel doesnt seem to support uV at the moment
Blades does
Clemsyn does
Dont think netformer does
Settings im still playing and waiting for uV on prime kernel as ive found it the most stable at the moment will post back later
ThEiiNoCeNT said:
The 2 lowest clock settings there are, it's like 250 and 320 mhz or something I can run a 250 undervolt. This is extremely useful because I run on interactive and my tablet runs on almost no battery at all while on standby.
As for my underclocks up from that to about 1590s(My tablet can't handle 1600s) I have a steady 65 undervolt for all frequencies. I found battery life to be amazing...
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Does your camera work when you set everything to -65? My camera will not work if I unvervolt 608 or 456 mhz.
QQ
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Yes it works, everything does.
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[Q] Underclocking for root users Questions and thoughts

Ive been getting smoother results underclocking the G2 at either 1.7 or 1.9 and knock on seems more quick to response, but when I tried video recording the 60 fps isn't smooth when you are clocked at the regular speed.. beware...I ran a benchmark on quadrant standard and got 17,250 constantly so it is underclocked per core... I want to hear your opinion on this and do you plan to underclock or already are. I feel like the ability to be more smooth within the UI helps a lot more now..let me know your thoughts!
bencozzy said:
From using trickster mod and setcpu to underclock they only underclock cpu0 the other three still use the full frequency range.
What app are you using?
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No frills CPU control :0
At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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That's really odd tbh o.o did you try quadrent as well? :0
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At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
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At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
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You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?
No i got a higher benchmark than the guy who replied on my post. I did get a smoother UI and everything is less laggy. Ill post a pic of 2.3ghz idk if its actually at 1.7ghz or 2.3ghz ill do another test
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You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?
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All this is true. Just tried. It might be a TINY bit slower ui THOUGH
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am using the app called No-frills CPU Control and for 1.7ghz I am using row and Ondemand as the I/O governor and same settings for the regular clock as well..
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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Underclocked at 1.7ghz first then regular clock at 2.27ghz
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am tending to believe that the regular clock speed is actually overclocked...just like how the galaxy s4 is overclocked 200mhz more than normal...however I could be wrong..
If you really want to see if this odd issue is actually happening download an app called Multicore CPU Control (the only app of its kind that seems to work with the LG G2). I use this to save battery by turning off all but one core, but it allows you full control over all your cores.
Download it, create a profile, and set each core to what you want. I had to save the profile first, then go back in to edit the latter 3 cores' frequencies.
I would suggest setting the min and max to the same and choosing Performance for the governor. Use a different app to set the scheduler.
Be sure to have something like Kernel Tuner to ensure that all your cores are running as you intended. If not, go back into Multicore CPU Control and re-save your profile again.
Would love to hear the results afterwards!
I used Multicore CPU Control.
The only way to set clock to CPU 1,2,3 is let them always active. If I leave dynamic for these cores, they still go up to 2,26 GHZ. I think this the reason why HeXaLox have a little decrement when underclock because it only did for one core.

Minimum cpu frequency.

Just curious what everybody is setting their cpu minimum frequencies at. I am not too concerned with battery life so I was thinking of setting mine a little higher to keep everything as smooth as possible. Is there a risk to raising the minimum frequency?
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pwshadow said:
Just curious what everybody is setting their cpu minimum frequencies at. I am not too concerned with battery life so I was thinking of setting mine a little higher to keep everything as smooth as possible. Is there a risk to raising the minimum frequency?
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I think you would benefit more from choosing another governor instead Try intellidemand or interactive := Both of these should be better than ondemand
pwshadow said:
Just curious what everybody is setting their cpu minimum frequencies at. I am not too concerned with battery life so I was thinking of setting mine a little higher to keep everything as smooth as possible. Is there a risk to raising the minimum frequency?
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i have mine set at 300000 so when my phone goes into deep sleep it's using little cpu power, but i also have interactive governor so that when i turn the screen on there's no delay and the kernel and cpu have what they need to be snappy.
this thread tells you all you need to know about governors and i/o schedulers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809

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