[Q] Underclocking for root users Questions and thoughts - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ive been getting smoother results underclocking the G2 at either 1.7 or 1.9 and knock on seems more quick to response, but when I tried video recording the 60 fps isn't smooth when you are clocked at the regular speed.. beware...I ran a benchmark on quadrant standard and got 17,250 constantly so it is underclocked per core... I want to hear your opinion on this and do you plan to underclock or already are. I feel like the ability to be more smooth within the UI helps a lot more now..let me know your thoughts!

bencozzy said:
From using trickster mod and setcpu to underclock they only underclock cpu0 the other three still use the full frequency range.
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No frills CPU control :0

At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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That's really odd tbh o.o did you try quadrent as well? :0
jrgilbert79 said:
At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
jrgilbert79 said:
At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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HeXaLox said:
I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
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You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?

No i got a higher benchmark than the guy who replied on my post. I did get a smoother UI and everything is less laggy. Ill post a pic of 2.3ghz idk if its actually at 1.7ghz or 2.3ghz ill do another test
whittikins said:
You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?
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All this is true. Just tried. It might be a TINY bit slower ui THOUGH
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am using the app called No-frills CPU Control and for 1.7ghz I am using row and Ondemand as the I/O governor and same settings for the regular clock as well..
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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Underclocked at 1.7ghz first then regular clock at 2.27ghz
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am tending to believe that the regular clock speed is actually overclocked...just like how the galaxy s4 is overclocked 200mhz more than normal...however I could be wrong..

If you really want to see if this odd issue is actually happening download an app called Multicore CPU Control (the only app of its kind that seems to work with the LG G2). I use this to save battery by turning off all but one core, but it allows you full control over all your cores.
Download it, create a profile, and set each core to what you want. I had to save the profile first, then go back in to edit the latter 3 cores' frequencies.
I would suggest setting the min and max to the same and choosing Performance for the governor. Use a different app to set the scheduler.
Be sure to have something like Kernel Tuner to ensure that all your cores are running as you intended. If not, go back into Multicore CPU Control and re-save your profile again.
Would love to hear the results afterwards!

I used Multicore CPU Control.
The only way to set clock to CPU 1,2,3 is let them always active. If I leave dynamic for these cores, they still go up to 2,26 GHZ. I think this the reason why HeXaLox have a little decrement when underclock because it only did for one core.

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Daily min/max CPU frequencies?

First off I apologize if there is a thread like this lying around somewhere.
Now I made this thread because I'm curious about what frequencies people usually have their phone running on.
Mine's
Min:100
Max:400
Governor: SmartassV2
Go ahead and post yours!
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Fire n mage said:
First off I apologize if there is a thread like this lying around somewhere.
Now I made this thread because I'm curious about what frequencies people usually have their phone running on.
Mine's
Min:100
Max:400
Governor: SmartassV2
Go ahead and post yours!
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sorry but that must Lag beyond hell. haha
100/1000 Vr on Lagfree With Some UV.
Nah sweetass battery life on cm7 mi amigo .
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damn 100/400.. lol i use 100/1460 on smartass
running 100, 200, 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200
sio, and conservative or on demand.
on the ronnin5 samurai kernel
-25 uv across the board on all frequencies
When at work i can run podcasts on blue tooth for 5 hours, surf web on 4g (usually checking the forums) for 30 min during my 2 20 min breaks. This is my usual 8 to 9 hours from pulling it from the charger to getting home. Rarely do i have to swap batteries before i leave work (i have 3 batteries) but can usually make it home and toss it on the computer usb if i don't want to swap out my battery.
steviee7 said:
damn 100/400.. lol i use 100/1460 on smartass
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1460? Who's kernel is that the only ICS supported are Shuriken and Shadow which only hit 1400
matrix 15.5 is 1460, remember im on ns4g
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361478
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matrix 15.5 is 1460, remember im on ns4g
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361478
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Oh i don't remember that. But whats the highest you've or it can overclock to?
XxLostSoulxX said:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Sorry but that must Lag beyond hell. haha
100/1000 Vr on Lagfree With Some UV.
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Lol noo actually I use 100-400 on conservative and it runs normal to me and I love the battery and I undervolted it too lol
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lilajrestnom said:
Lol noo actually I use 100-400 on conservative and it runs normal to me and I love the battery and I undervolted it too lol
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I CALL BS. No Way in Hell not even on Any platform will it be fine it will lag and be unresponsive at those low frequencies.
Make a video and put it on Youtube i want to see this if i UV as well it also decreases performance but gains battery life.
Not that I've tried it... but we all know the Epic is more than twice as fast as some devices that run Android. In that case, how would running it at 40% speed make it unusable?
AndrewZorn said:
Not that I've tried it... but we all know the Epic is more than twice as fast as some devices that run Android. In that case, how would running it at 40% speed make it unusable?
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Umm no thats wrong.
HTC EVO Shift 4G can be over-clocked to 1.9GHz from a stock 800 MHz: 110% OC
HTC Rezound can be overclocked to 1.99GHz from a stock 1.5GHz: 49-50% OC
Moto Droid X can be overclocked to 2GHz from a stock 1GHz: 100% OC
Theres plenty the Samsung Epic only has technically a 30% overclock and virtually a 50% overclock
But theres plenty of other phones with more over-clockability
I run 100/200/400/800/1000/1200 all stock. Its what samsung intended the hummingbird for (our processors were designed to go 1.2ghz iirc)
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1400-100 bfq smartassV2
XxLostSoulxX said:
I CALL BS. No Way in Hell not even on Any platform will it be fine it will lag and be unresponsive at those low frequencies.
Make a video and put it on Youtube i want to see this if i UV as well it also decreases performance but gains battery life.
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Would cpu spy be enough for you to believe??
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xopher.hunter said:
I run 100/200/400/800/1000/1200 all stock. Its what samsung intended the hummingbird for (our processors were designed to go 1.2ghz iirc)
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Well because our phones are 1.2GHz Stock but they lowered to 1GHz because that was the margin in 2010 for high end devices but they Under Clocked to save some battery. So technically we only came up with a 30% OC (1500MHz).
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That will not show us how it performs I.E Lag. That will scroll smoothly and will stutter. running 400Mhz on max is still to low for no lag at all.
I could believe 100/600 or 200/800
That will not show us how it performs I.E Lag. That will scroll smoothly and will stutter. running 400Mhz on max is still to low for no lag at all.
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Lol but I swearrr its on 100-400 conservative lol
And it won't show if it lags which it seriously doesn't at allllll but if I've been using only 100, 200, and 400 mhz for the past 6 or 7 hours or longer then u know its not lagging cuz why would I put up with a day using my phone lagging everywhere just to prove something like this to you..
I downloaded screencast to take a video but it only let's me take 20seconds and when I played it it was all black and didn't show my screen
Ill try again to show you
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lilajrestnom said:
Lol but I swearrr its on 100-400 conservative lol
And it won't show if it lags which it seriously doesn't at allllll but if I've been using only 100, 200, and 400 mhz for the past 6 or 7 hours or longer then u know its not lagging cuz why would I put up with a day using my phone lagging everywhere just to prove something like this to you..
I downloaded screencast to take a video but it only let's me take 20seconds and when I played it it was all black and didn't show my screen
Ill try again to show you
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It wont lag for doing nothing try going on to play simple games it lag, try browsing on the internet or stream music even with a good connection it still chips in n out because of low performance speeds.
XxLostSoulxX said:
It wont lag for doing nothing try going on to play simple games it lag, try browsing on the internet or stream music even with a good connection it still chips in n out because of low performance speeds.
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Lol waitt I'm not saying its perfect or as good as running on 1000
But to me its very very very acceptable
Games is the only place it lags to a point where I can't take it
But I browse the internet (dolphin hd) and I use this app to get on here and I listen to music and txt and its all good now its not 100% perfect or very very very smooth but its really acceptable like I use it like this all the time so it should b acceptable
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Well because our phones are 1.2GHz Stock but they lowered to 1GHz because that was the margin in 2010 for high end devices but they Under Clocked to save some battery. So technically we only came up with a 30% OC (1500MHz).
That will not show us how it performs I.E Lag. That will scroll smoothly and will stutter. running 400Mhz on max is still to low for no lag at all.
I could believe 100/600 or 200/800
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100/600 Smartass V2 is lag free for me but I can deal with 400. Unless I'm scrolling on the internet lol. Don't get me wrong though, I bump it up to 1.2ghz when I'm gaming
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[Q] CPU Clock speed

So I was trying to mess around with CPU profiles and I noticed that the low end of the CPU is clocked at 1GHz. If I lower it with Rom Toolbox, it just goes right back up after I leave the menu. the profiles won't stick, governors don't make a difference, and I'm a little confused.
Can someone shed some light on this for me?
I thought the lowest speed was 384 MHz? Install CPU Spy and check what it says.
It is 384MHz. The lower frequency change because of project butter that make the cpu run at a higher frequency when you touch the screen.
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Dont you need a custom kernal in order to change the clock speeds?
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No, we can already change it but it won't stick since it has its own frequency management.
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Is this somewhat similar to perflocker in HTC devices? It had to be disabled to change any cpu settings AT ALL with the stock kernel.
hervelo said:
No, we can already change it but it won't stick since it has its own frequency management.
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That is why..
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ed10000 said:
I thought the lowest speed was 384 MHz? Install CPU Spy and check what it says.
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You're right. I guess it just has its own profile to set at 1GHz when the screen is on, because the CPU Spy showed it in Deep Sleep/384Mhz for the majority of the night.
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How do I disable Touch Booster?

Hey guys, touch booster is really annoying on this phone. It pushes the phone to 1.06GHz everytime I touch it, and is starting to bug me.
Is there anyway to keep it scaling up properly?
I'm no expert at this stuff, but isn't this fast jump in CPU clock what pretty much makes Project Butter possible?
If I understand right (and I probably don't), I think this might have to do with with governor in-use. If your rooted; try using a different governor and then touching the screen.
Great, so now people are complaining about Project Butter's features... ok
How exactly does something like this bug you?
People are getting way too picky with this phone now. Relax, its a phone guys
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Next thread will be " This phone is too fast, how do I slow it down to keep up?"
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The CPU goes up when you touch it so it can be responsive and quick to your inputs. How is this so annoying?
If you root it you can lower the max or change the governor buy chances are you will lose much of your responsiveness.
I understand that it is good for us to discuss issues and problems but some of the things I am seeing here are just really nit picking and complaining about things that are not bad at all. We are a spoiled society of humans, some more than others i guess.
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Monk4Life said:
Next thread will be " This phone is too fast, how do I slow it down to keep up?"
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you joke but there's a surprising amount of people that underclock their cpu thinking it will save battery...
qwahchees said:
Hey guys, touch booster is really annoying on this phone. It pushes the phone to 1.06GHz everytime I touch it, and is starting to bug me.
Is there anyway to keep it scaling up properly?
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Get some CPU control app and change the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz.
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neotekz said:
you joke but there's a surprising amount of people that underclock their cpu thinking it will save battery...
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Under clocking will save battery in most cases but ot will also make your phone sluggish and slow depending on how much.
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richteralan said:
Get some CPU control app and change the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz.
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That will make your phone run so slow and crappy... Why have a decent cpu if the plan is to chop it? This defeats the entire purpose of having a 1.5ghz clock speed..
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Richieboy67 said:
That will make your phone run so slow and crappy... Why have a decent cpu if the plan is to chop it? This defeats the entire purpose of having a 1.5ghz clock speed..
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Check the meaning of "MINIMUM CPU FREQUENCY".
P.S. O and btw I'm changed it to 384MHz on my Nexus 4. AND........wait for it........my nexus 4 is not slow and crappy........woo mind blown!
What I find interesting is on the nexus 4 the governor is on demand , and the scaling range is 0mhz- 1026mhz ( you can check using CPU spy +)
However on the nexus 10 , the governor is interactive and the scaling range is 0mhz -200mhz
I wonder why that is
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italia0101 said:
What I find interesting is on the nexus 4 the governor is on demand , and the scaling range is 0mhz- 1026mhz ( you can check using CPU spy +)
However on the nexus 10 , the governor is interactive and the scaling range is 0mhz -200mhz
I wonder why that is
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that app is broken.
Try No-frills CPU control, or even AnTuTu CPU Master.
Is it interactive on the nexus 4 then? I just checked on my n10 smd it still says interactive
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italia0101 said:
Is it interactive on the nexus 4 then? I just checked on my n10 smd it still says interactive
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I'm using no-frills and the default is ondemand, scaling from 1GHz to 1.5GHz.
What I changed is only the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz. Nothing more.
The scaling...
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richteralan said:
I'm using no-frills and the default is ondemand, scaling from 1GHz to 1.5GHz.
What I changed is only the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz. Nothing more.
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Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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italia0101 said:
Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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Ask Google.
I have no idea. And I don't have a Nexus 10.
italia0101 said:
Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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Nexus 10 is a dual core tablet, not a phone. Check your PC some time or laptop. They scale totally differently than a phone does.
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[Q] How overclock GPU?

I have nexus 7 3G 32gb with trinity kernel,stock ROM.And i have question how do i overclock GPU?
Use Trinity kernel toolbox. It has the option to set the speed of the GPU and adjust the CPU voltages
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winged mantis said:
Use Trinity kernel toolbox. It has the option to set the speed of the GPU and adjust the CPU voltages
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Can my GPU burn or something like that?Or high GPU frequency will cause only reboot?
I've read that the max recommended GPU speed is 484.Going much higher the battery will drain too much and will get hot. If you set the speed to high it will become unstable and usually reboot. It will reboot and rest default speeds long before it will have time to melt. Just don't use your over clock settings to be set on boot
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FatalaS said:
I have nexus 7 3G 32gb with trinity kernel,stock ROM.And i have question how do i overclock GPU?
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1. easiest way, use the trinity kernel toolbox and adjust the gpu slider up or down.
2. or manually go to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/gpu_oc/ with a root file explorer(like root explorer) and manually edit the variable and save it.
yes, it can get very hot if overclocking the gpu. especially when playing cpu intensive games. worst thing is youll reboot if things go haywire.
Excessive voltage and heat can easily fry a CPU/GPU and other motherboard components, so be careful.
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GPU under clocking

UI still runs super smooth at 128MHz, so will setting it to this have any major positive effect on battery life? If not playing games I'm guessing u won't really need all that GPU power.
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Well, in technical terms it *should* give you better battery life because it's reducing stress on a main hardware component so it doesn't have to work as hard (the harder it works, the more battery it takes). Same thing with the screen; the lower the brightness, the better the battery.
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What app allow you to change GPU speed?
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eksasol said:
What app allow you to change GPU speed?
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I know faux123's kernel app let's you.
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android88 said:
Well, in technical terms it *should* give you better battery life because it's reducing stress on a main hardware component so it doesn't have to work as hard (the harder it works, the more battery it takes). Same thing with the screen; the lower the brightness, the better the battery.
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Wouldn't it have to work harder for longer because it can't do anything as fast? It isn't like if you set the GPU clock to 487mhz it runs at 487mhz all the time, so ramping up to 487mhz would allow it to finish whatever it is doing faster wouldn't it?
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joshnichols189 said:
Wouldn't it have to work harder for longer because it can't do anything as fast? It isn't like if you set the GPU clock to 487mhz it runs at 487mhz all the time, so ramping up to 487mhz would allow it to finish whatever it is doing faster wouldn't it?
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Then wouldn't it be the same with the CPU? When I answered I was thinking like how a CPU would work. I understand your thinking though.
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Well I would like to add that the 540 sgx can power the 720P in the Galaxy Nexus... That dino is significantly weaker than the Adreno 320 even over clocked. I run 128 only and it works fine for games and even HD videos(YouTube). To confirm I tried Most wanted, dead trigger, temple run, riptide,etc and there weren't any issues(also toggled vSync). And if you use benchmarks like Epic cidel or antutu you'll see the frames are still pretty high.
So I'll say that 128 or even 200mhz is sufficient for this GPU and most purposes. However a good I/o scheduler and governor are still recommended.
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I think another advantage if it runs what you want at a good frame rate is less heat.

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