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My wife and I both brought each other EVO's for Christmas......
Im upgrading from Hero and I got her to finally leave her BELOVED Blackberry's....lol
can't wait to things running... and besides rooting
what do u suggest I do next ??
what's a EVO Must? lol
Screen protector and an Otterbox case lol
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Extended battery
tell her to buy you a brand new car so you can plug in your brand new phone in and listen to music :x
I suggest you RESEARCH a lot. Find out what you want to do, ask questions, get answers, and go nuts.
I recommend the ROM Wiki in the android development forum, check em out and see which you like when you're ready to start flashing customs.
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Screen protector and an Otterbox case lol
Sent from my EVO's 4G You?........I thought so
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Nice screen protector that comes with the CM Barely There case.
All smartphone enthusiasts commented on the niceness and the low profile of that case when they saw it.
First root, then flash Myn's Warm rom rls4. I'm kind of a noob. Tried every rom out there and if you want your 4g working and everything Myn's the best and fastest. Also for awesome battery life flash Calk's kernel. I'll give you these links. Both me and the wife are set up like this. The rest is up to you. Bookmark this website and refer to it like a bible. Also a great theme to use is Riptide's colorNclear. We have some of his addons as well, the speedo batt is really cool. The updated launcher pro is a great launcher. It has so many options. Well enough, her are the links.
Myn's Warm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471&highlight=Myn
Calk's kernel- I use 131- scroll down to second post- look for "SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (also known as 131)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590&highlight=calkulin's
And last Riptide's theme I use V9 the one on post #2 with slayers transitions, allows you to add all the cool naddons. Oh, I also have the blue dialer. He has several colors available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727117
Now one thing I found out if you dont already know is
1. flash rom then reboot
2. flash kernel then reboot
3. flash Riptides theme then reboot
4 then if you want the addons you can go ahead all at once without rebooting in between each one.
If you try to flash the rom, theme, and kernel without rebooting it will stick in a bootloop. If you have any questions about any of this fell free to hit me up [email protected]
Have fun!!!
bigel said:
My wife and I both brought each other EVO's for Christmas......
Im upgrading from Hero and I got her to finally leave her BELOVED Blackberry's....lol
can't wait to things running... and besides rooting
what do u suggest I do next ??
what's a EVO Must? lol
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If you don't have 4G/don't care for it and or HDMI, I suggest checking out CM6.1.1 Rom and read alot (Especially OP)
I recommend not flashing at least get a feel for Android, sense and the evo before moving on to other roms. I do appreciate the roms and what not but be prepared to deal with non stop issues with custom roms. If you don't mind tinkering with your phone everydAY to get it to work right then maybe custom roms could be your thing. I use my phone all day everyday but its because I use it, not because I'm trying to get things to work " better". I have been down this road briefly with the evo, but on my tilt 2, I was a Rom flashing fool.
I would recommend rooting but staying stock over all. a while back rooting the evo was simple via unrevoked, I don't think that method works anymore. Why root? Well WiFi teather is the main thing I rooted for. You can run apps like adfree, and of course you can flash roms. Oh and if you root you can put a custom recovery that let's you do usefully things like nandroid backup and restore. With this you can a complete image backup of your phone settings, apps and data.
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In general, yes some roms require a lot of tinkering.
But some (like myns rls4) is out of the box stock experience perfection IMO. Since his ROMs are based on the stock OTA's and kernels, they share a lot of the good stuff of the OTA roms, without the bloat, and with added asthetic effects as well.
Thanx for all the info and tips... I'm ready for root ... think I'm gonna use the one from unRevoked .. thanx again
No screen protector. Believe it or not, it doesn't need it but get the otter box case--worth the money. My Evo gets beat up a lot and and my three-year-old son plays Angry Birds and bangs it around. Tests have been done on the Evo without a screen protector and it's surprisingly resistant to scratches.
I suggest you DON'T root it for a while and see what you can do with your phone, you'd be surprised. Unless of course, there's a specific ROM you'd like to try.
I rooted my phone because I didn't like the look of SenseUI and wanted to try CyanogenMod 6. Otherwise, I wouldn't have rooted my phone and just left it stock.
must root, just wait til there a 1 click ,everything else is role of the dice. Warning you will become a flashaholic, so many great roms and kernals.
have fun
Do not use unrevoked
cbrewington75 said:
Do not use unrevoked
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why?
i never ever had a problem with unrevoked....
Unrevoked does not work on newest hboot. I would not even attempt to root and nand unlock until unrevoked has the tool to do it. I see alot of people bricking their Evo's, killing 4G keys so that it never works again, and alot of other problems.
You should ask in the Q&A section how to root your setup. Write down the hardware#. Its in menu, settings, about phone, hardware info. Also in software write down PRI version, software# and possibly Baseband. Now power down. Once off, hold volume down and press and hold the power button until the screen comes completely back up. Now you're in Hboot. Write down the hboot version. Now ask a question about how to root your phone and include all this info. You should be able to get the right answer.
Woah someone mentioned Otterbox cases. The cases they offer for the evo are terrible! Steer clear especially of the Defender. I have the defender and commuter both are junk.
Check out tridentcase.com their cyclops case is my favorite so far.
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You should ask in the Q&A section how to root your setup. Write down the hardware#. Its in menu, settings, about phone, hardware info. Also in software write down PRI version, software# and possibly Baseband. Now power down. Once off, hold volume down and press and hold the power button until the screen comes completely back up. Now you're in Hboot. Write down the hboot version. Now ask a question about how to root your phone and include all this info. You should be able to get the right answer.
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Seriously? No. Don't do that. Well, do everything up until the part about making a new thread to ask how to root. That will just piss people off. There are already threads with step by step guides for rooting whatever hardware you have.
Instead, make note of your hboot version and take a trip to the Android Development and Hacking section of the Evo forums and look for a thread with "[ROOT]" in the title, and make sure the hboot version in the title matches yours. All the new root guides will specify which hboot they root. Everything you need to know should be in the guide.
Oh another small thing, you never hear any complain about the stickiness of the screen . I didnt like it so I got a Matt finished screen protector. I found them on eBay @ 3 for $5. They do take a bit of quality away from the colors but I would say it only hurts the quality by 5%. In return your finger will slide across the screen so much easier. It was worth it for me.
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Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I have a case now and that was the worst an most useless post I have ever seen.
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
pwraggcan said:
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
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Thank you.
Dowsett said:
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
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I suggest you to root first then install a custom ROM.
Dowsett said:
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
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Those are custom ROM, which developers uses stock ROM as base. They modified, customized and tweaked it, so it is much faster and more battery saving than stock ROM.
To flash a custom ROM, you can find guide in the development section.
Dowsett said:
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
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Welcome to Android World! Here you will find all your answers related to your Android OS.
Since you have not rooted your device. It's hard to get rid of some the built in apps.
in simple words if you are not aware of this stuff > Rooting your phone means becoming an Administrator of your device, where you can do what you like, like full control on (PC.
Check this link for all the details you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
I highly recommend getting screen protector
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
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I highly recommend getting screen protector
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You two sir, are meanie.
But then, consider using the 2+ clear protector for the front and rear for maximum protection.
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
When I bought my DHD I was so into it I decided to make a personal website.
It has various rom screenshot examples, some videos and an up-to-date list of roms here at XDA. You can check it out via my sig.
I put it together with people like you in mind.
Maybe it can help or at least inspire you.
I try most roms and my current one is MIUI 1.8.26 V.2: FRESHLY SQUEEZED EDITION™ By MrGarak.
Screenshots of it are here.
Enjoy your DHD!
I still thoroughly enjoy mine.
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Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
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I actually did agree with you @pukemon, and I support it 100%.
But this...
Dowsett said:
...the screen broke within hours...
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So sad. Or maybe bad luck. Anyway, good luck unlocking your phone!
Hi there welcome to Android.
all that rooting isn't really obligatory, more of a fun thing to do actually. Most of the time ROM's from xda developers are better optimized and faster than the ones coming from HTC, but HTC aren't horrible developers.
For hiding crappy apps you could install an alternative launcher (i use GO Launcher EX) which allows you to hide certain apps. This way you'll never see them but the niceties of the Sense UI will be gone also (some of them). However Go Launcher is quite customizable.
and btw, this is the big thing with android, customization. You can change almost anything about it only sometimes needing root to do it.
It's a great OS and if iOS is friendly to noobs, Android is not as friendly (a bit of a learning curve but not steep) but it does let them show of a lot more.
Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of time?
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!
You should wait until the return period is over before rooting it. This will give you time to make sure nothing is physically wrong with it. Rooting alone will not void your warranty. However, unlocking the boot loader will and you need to do that to load a custom recovery so that you can flash another ROM. An unlocked message will get displayed on the start up screen. Some carriers may not pay much attention to that when returning it. Motorola will most likely notice if you need to use the manufacturers warranty though.
Root will void your warranty, wait till the trial period is over just to be safe...
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i got my phone from AT&T and rooted it as soon as i got home, a week later i ended up hard bricking my phone and went into the AT&T store and got it replaced for free. now, i did also pay for insurance on my phone so if anything happened to it (even if it's my fault) i'd get it replaced, but it seemed as if the representative had no clue what he was talking about. i was honest with them and everything and told him i was trying to unlock the phone when it happened, and he just kind of smiled and nodded and then pulled out a new phone out of the back. i asked how much i owed him, and he told me nothing.
point of the story is, i wouldn't worry about rooting the phone. it's possible that you won't be able to get it replaced, but chances are the rep you talk to either won't know what rooting is, or won't care. unlocking your bootloader though, i'd definitely wait a little while.
thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
many thanks
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thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
many thanks
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rooting your device is just giving it root access, so apps can access parts of the system that they normally couldn't. rooting is extremely easily, and reversible. there are multiple ways to do it, i would suggest either the one click root for all gingerbread devices here
or the preinstall method here
now, unlocking the bootloader is a lot different. it pretty much enables you to install custom firmware onto your device. you can install a custom recovery that allows you to install amazing ROMs such as CM7, Aura, Ninja, Alien, Red Pill, Homebase, etc. etc.
i'm still assuming you're on gingerbread, so unlocking your bootloader is a panicky process. you'll get a fake hard brick (0x1000 error), but all you have to do is boot into fastboot mode and type the command 'fastboot oem unlock'. you can find a really awesome script that will do it all for you here
now, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. it gives you a bit of text on your boot logo (the motorola screen) that says 'unlocked' and allows your carrier to know you voided the warranty. it's also irreversible, once unlocked always unlocked. so make your decision wisely
nevermind, just skimmed over your post again. my apologies, i misread a few parts originally, you'll need to unlock your device to install a custom ROM with gingerbread. you can unlock your device by flashing the .sbf files you can find in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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After you get the bootloader unlocked and cwm recovery installed going back to factory settings is as easy as installing a stock ROM. Which is pretty damn easy
And rooting alone isn't enough to get you gingerbread.
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awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD
ishamm said:
awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD
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You can go to the ihop thread in the dev forum and use the Mac sbf flasher provided there. After that use the sbf that corresponds to your device. Flashing the wrong sbf can brick your device so maker sure you get the right one. Then boot into fastboot and use the fastboot OEM unlock command.
You can root as well on a Mac i'm sure, I just wouldn't know how. I'm guessing the preinstall method I linked would work.
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ishamm said:
Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of t
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!
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if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?
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if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?
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Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?
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oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?
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It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.
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i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.
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You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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na not yet maybe after beta when everything works, kinda over cm now. new phone new roms hoping some new ones pop up here soon, but ill probly check out cm when its out of beta but most likely wont keep it as default.
after a bit of research it seems rooting on a mac is pretty tricky, since i dont have a vast ammount of terminal experience. is there a way i can forward some sort of app to the phone and root from the phone itself?
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thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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The 2 weeks is a return window with tmobile. Motorola, and most vendors, offer a one year manufacturer warranty. That is the warranty you void when unlocking the boot loader. Just wanted to clarify that bit.
ah thanks, i guess motorola WOULD notice its unlocked then. after some reading i think i'll use CM7, seems less likely to kill the phone, right?
the phone is insured, i guess it would be covered by that if i bricked it for good? if not i could take a hammer to it and claim it was a 'terrible accident' XD
So i have the att version of this phone, and I found the Diet ICS rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732195
and found the Root with no flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
But don't know wehre to start?? Which roms are the best?? Diet? What other roms are available that are "good"? I've checked the roms that I've found, however I dont really understand the differences between all these roms. Nor do I understnad what steps I need to take and what exactly I need to do? I've read the "everything att s3..." thread, but it doesn't make sense to me on what I need to do to load a new rom.
Do I need to follow the root without flash counter thread?? Do I just follow a new rom thread?
What kernel/rom would be best to load for better battery life?
thanks!
Have you read the step by step guide for rooting? If not then start there.
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I did check it...but in the guide I don't see where it says to load your custom rom at. I'm reading the rom guide that doesnt add the flash counter.
Also, which rom/kernel is better for more battery life? Or should I wait for CM9?
you don't need to be doing anything to your phone at this point. READ, READ, READ, before you eff up your phone!
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you don't need to be doing anything to your phone at this point. READ, READ, READ, before you eff up your phone!
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Absolutely true. The place to start is always with reading, not with posting more random clutter to the forums. All of the information is out there, and forums come equipped with a search.
+1 Go slow, read once you have root you can do a lot of things without the need to flash a custom rom right away. You gain ability to block ads with Adfree from the market. Also you can use titanium backup to backup your phone. Remember back Up! back up! back up! IT will save your butt.
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All the above is Gospel! You need to read and then read some more. Rooting gives you freedom and the ability to choice a rom if u want. Roms are a choice u make. Everyone has different likes and dislikes so no one can say use this rom over that rom. YOUR choice. As far a things like battery life again each rom can give each person a different experience based on usage apps etc. Everyone above has given u good advice read read read. I have seen to many peeps who rush into things and find they have an expensive paper weight. After u have read more try rooting and then a rom or two.
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well, i'm not a complete newb. I had a Note that I completely tore down and reloaded numerous times with different roms, odin, etc etc...
I guess my question shouldve been is there any specific rom or kernel that is battery optimized? And also any idea when CM9 comes out? I could just optimize battery and wait for CM9 if its coming out soon.
I'm not going to just go hurry and load a rom. But once I know WHICH rom/kernel I need to load then I can go from there on how best to do that
Idk, when i read about each individual rom its not clear to me what the differences are between the different roms if that makes sense? Like they all kinda say the same thing "de-bloated, optimized, etc etc". I just want a bug free, clean rom that works well for battery really and i dont see that criteria listed on the rom descriptions
I realize theres an amount I need to learn to to get this thing loaded, my question more is whats a "popular" "less buggy" rom that works well with battery life and is CM9 supposed to be the bees knees or what?? haha
actually looks like not many roms available yet. i may wait until there's more to choose from and for now just battery optimize and remove att crap
There are no good roms for this phone so I would root and wait hopefully they start coming out soon but it maybe a few months or longer or never since the international version is getting all the developer love only. I want MIUI or CM9/10 then we can talk.
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There are no good roms for this phone so I would root and wait hopefully they start coming out soon but it maybe a few months or longer or never since the international version is getting all the developer love only. I want MIUI or CM9/10 then we can talk.
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ok thanks man, thats exactly what i was looking for. i guess i'll wait until something good comes out.
but i did find the "cpu sleeper" script to conserve battery, so I may root for that. depending on how much it saves?
Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
Vangelis13 said:
1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
wvcadle said:
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
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1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
wvcadle said:
I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
Vangelis13 said:
Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Believe me, I'm not asking for anything to be spooned to me. I mean, if I could at least get some help in figuring out which ROM I'd like to flash, that would be appreciated. I could certainly do the leg work if I could just get help deciding on which ROM. I stated in my OP the type of things I'd like to have in a custom ROM. Didn't what I posted put one or two in your head? If so, may I ask which ones? Even with your opening sentence of this reply, you said to start with a simple rom. Any examples?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009561
At least he has an op that explains a fair bit.
Roastgoat said:
1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
wvcadle - It's hard to say what the best roms are since that's mostly personal taste but some of the more popular roms are ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Xylon and slimbean. There is a questions section that has lots of threads comparing roms.
neotekz said:
They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
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I have tried PA and CM10.1, both of which I liked but some minor issues have me back to stock and waiting for stable releases. I think personally I would go CM10.1 once stable.
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
JanusDC said:
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
wvcadle said:
I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
irishman103 said:
I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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Well, I just flashed my first Custom ROM. I'm pretty stoked! Even though it's one of the simpler ROMs, it's still pretty cool. Hopefully I don't get hooked!
So, is flashing a custom kernel more dangerous than ROMs? I heard Franco has an app he created to flash his kernels.
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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irishman103 said:
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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Will the other ROMs not work right out of the box, or would I need to tweak all of those settings to get them to work?
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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TBH it will take you some time to learn everything. All the questions you need answered will come in time with you learning Android. Its best to learn by LOTS of reading but you also need some trial and error. You will learn what Roms work best for you and which dont. You will see that you dont always need a custom kernel, and perhaps your screen only needs to 2 more clicks of saturation to have 2.2 gamma while others need to tweak across the board. Once again you gain that knowledge over time. You will get in trouble from time to time, not have help and possibly brick badly, but you learn to fix and work it out, and THAT is really where you learn lots. When you hit a roadblock READ and you will have your answer and in the process gain the knowledge you need.
Good luck and enjoy the hobby!
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
wvcadle said:
You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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No problem. Glad I could help.
And your last question is the ultimate question...lol. It's all about how you use your phone. One ROM might be more efficient for you than it would be for me. You might watch a lot of videos and don't have good reception. That could drain your battery. I'd go with ROMs that have a good thread. Read and read about the ROM before you flash it. Read the first pages and the last. I personally like Paranoid Android and AOKP ROMs. Look in the original development section and read up on Liquid Smooth, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. They are really great out the box and no overclocking or "deep settings" needed. If you have any questions about the two I like I'll be more than happy to answer any questions. Just PM or email me.
Ok, MoDaCo on my N4 and PA 3.0 on my N7!
Yes, flashing custom roms is becoming a hobby!