Att S3 - load new rom how/where to start?? - Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)

So i have the att version of this phone, and I found the Diet ICS rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732195
and found the Root with no flash counter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
But don't know wehre to start?? Which roms are the best?? Diet? What other roms are available that are "good"? I've checked the roms that I've found, however I dont really understand the differences between all these roms. Nor do I understnad what steps I need to take and what exactly I need to do? I've read the "everything att s3..." thread, but it doesn't make sense to me on what I need to do to load a new rom.
Do I need to follow the root without flash counter thread?? Do I just follow a new rom thread?
What kernel/rom would be best to load for better battery life?
thanks!

Have you read the step by step guide for rooting? If not then start there.
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I did check it...but in the guide I don't see where it says to load your custom rom at. I'm reading the rom guide that doesnt add the flash counter.
Also, which rom/kernel is better for more battery life? Or should I wait for CM9?

you don't need to be doing anything to your phone at this point. READ, READ, READ, before you eff up your phone!

ReggieTee said:
you don't need to be doing anything to your phone at this point. READ, READ, READ, before you eff up your phone!
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Absolutely true. The place to start is always with reading, not with posting more random clutter to the forums. All of the information is out there, and forums come equipped with a search.

+1 Go slow, read once you have root you can do a lot of things without the need to flash a custom rom right away. You gain ability to block ads with Adfree from the market. Also you can use titanium backup to backup your phone. Remember back Up! back up! back up! IT will save your butt.

Ballgum
All the above is Gospel! You need to read and then read some more. Rooting gives you freedom and the ability to choice a rom if u want. Roms are a choice u make. Everyone has different likes and dislikes so no one can say use this rom over that rom. YOUR choice. As far a things like battery life again each rom can give each person a different experience based on usage apps etc. Everyone above has given u good advice read read read. I have seen to many peeps who rush into things and find they have an expensive paper weight. After u have read more try rooting and then a rom or two.
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well, i'm not a complete newb. I had a Note that I completely tore down and reloaded numerous times with different roms, odin, etc etc...
I guess my question shouldve been is there any specific rom or kernel that is battery optimized? And also any idea when CM9 comes out? I could just optimize battery and wait for CM9 if its coming out soon.
I'm not going to just go hurry and load a rom. But once I know WHICH rom/kernel I need to load then I can go from there on how best to do that
Idk, when i read about each individual rom its not clear to me what the differences are between the different roms if that makes sense? Like they all kinda say the same thing "de-bloated, optimized, etc etc". I just want a bug free, clean rom that works well for battery really and i dont see that criteria listed on the rom descriptions
I realize theres an amount I need to learn to to get this thing loaded, my question more is whats a "popular" "less buggy" rom that works well with battery life and is CM9 supposed to be the bees knees or what?? haha

actually looks like not many roms available yet. i may wait until there's more to choose from and for now just battery optimize and remove att crap

There are no good roms for this phone so I would root and wait hopefully they start coming out soon but it maybe a few months or longer or never since the international version is getting all the developer love only. I want MIUI or CM9/10 then we can talk.
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sabre31 said:
There are no good roms for this phone so I would root and wait hopefully they start coming out soon but it maybe a few months or longer or never since the international version is getting all the developer love only. I want MIUI or CM9/10 then we can talk.
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ok thanks man, thats exactly what i was looking for. i guess i'll wait until something good comes out.
but i did find the "cpu sleeper" script to conserve battery, so I may root for that. depending on how much it saves?

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Best 2.2 ROM

I am looking to flash a 2.2 rom but don't know which one is the best, can someone tell me which is the best and why they think it is. Also in order to flash do I just have to wipe and flash or is there something more that I need to do to go from DI18 to DK17?
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Bar none, go with Quantun1.5, stable,quick,clean,and good battery.
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I'm gonna go with epic experience 2.0. Its way smooth and stable.
It's really up to you. Everyone phone handles things differently
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It's really up to you. Everyone phone handles things differently
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Seems to be the trend lately...kinda odd but true.
sirens6 said:
I am looking to flash a 2.2 rom but don't know which one is the best, can someone tell me which is the best and why they think it is. Also in order to flash do I just have to wipe and flash or is there something more that I need to do to go from DI18 to DK17?
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lol i'll take a crack at that even though i'm new here and am still learning my way around.
There are several froyo roms out there right now for the epic; you can read about them in the developer's forum. Then, you should do a little bit of research - such as reading the beginning of posts about rom releases, and then maybe the last few pages, looking for other people's comments about fc's and the like. That will allow you to pick a rom that isn't too beta (that is, will be fairly stable). Or you could pick an unstable rom if that's what you want to play with - it's an open source Android device, baby! Warranty voided of course. Always do a nandroid backup first of course.
Everyone:"Of course!"
What's 'best' for me may not be what's 'best' for you. However, without saying that it's better than any other stable and smooth froyo ROM, I'm currently using VIPERrom DK17 2.6 (haven't tried anything higher yet) with some of my visual/audio mods (changed boot screen and sound, changed shutdown sound, using a battery mod). As I said, I find this rom to be stable and quick but I'm not touting one functional ROM over another - it works well for me right now as a stable, quick froyo rom. Also it didn't have a bunch of stuff I didn't want like sprint bloatware, so that was nice.
To use this rom, as the developer himself states on the first post of his thread, "YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE DK17 MODEM AND PIT TO USE THIS ROM!!" For the extremely literal out there, you must ALSO flash your epic with those files after you download them.
The developer, BThomas22x, has kindly included links to the files you'd need on his posting, which you should check out along with the postings from other developers.
I don't really have the experience here to say it without feeling a tad jerkish, but the xda forum is a developer's forum so you should probably be willing to do a little research on your own.
I know this because I'm still posting questions in the wrong places and the like
So a little looking around in the Android Development forum would show you this wiki. That's also a good place to start.
I have been doing my homework and I have seen the wiki, that is why I am now using the Syndicate ROM 1.0.2 DI18 with eXtreme kernel 1.2 and the emotionless beast theme. I just wanted to know peoples opinions as to why they like one froyo ROM over another so that when I choose to flash one I have a basis to judge my decision. Thanks, all your input is very helpful. Anyone else like a particular froyo ROM for one reason or anotherM
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Quantum 1.5 fo sho
Each rom has their own features to each their own.
Ran viper for a few days, but switched to EE for now.
I'm new to the android fam as of today. But the stock version seems to do what i need it to do. I just download skyfire free out of the market place and i can watch everything the froyo 2.2 flash player 10.1 can do. Or maybe im missing something? I need yal to get me up to speed whats the difference besides speed. And please don't chew me out for asking either.

instalment of rom(cyanogen 2 be specific)

as much as i read on these forums I cannot install ANY rom unless it is done STEP by step. not even kiding. I was lucky 2 find darkys rom (which was my first) from another site which i do not recall, and further more i recently installed simply honey with the assistance of a close relative of mine.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can any1 make a COMPLETE installation guide on how 2 install the latest cyanogen rom for me (like the level of cluelessness is 9/10)
I would well appreciate if an explanation of what basebands etc and wtf voodoo lagfix and whatever are. i do not understand when i read about flashing unless it is shown 2 me directly, i dont know if that even involves odin or when odin comes in or if there are other programs. all help is well apreciated. i hope there are no other complete guides for idiots on this forum( like me).
Thankyou in advance 2 any1 that can help me achieve what i am trying 2 do
Like this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101534
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no u see iv read that but it is a killer.. lol. is it asking for 2 much 2 include some screenshots?
it doesnt suit me as i am currently using gingerbread and have no idea how 2 get back down 2 froyo:S
Without being tight mate, if you can't understand a tutorial, or install froyo/eclair bootloaders, then I would respectfully suggest that cm is not for you.
Try doing alot more reading - if you'd have done even a minimal amount before posting this request, you would know that voodoo lagfix has nothing to do with cyanogenmod.
The more you do to help yourself, the more inclined others will be to help.
Insanity cm - superaosp kernel.
b3ava said:
no u see iv read that but it is a killer.. lol. is it asking for 2 much 2 include some screenshots?
it doesnt suit me as i am currently using gingerbread and have no idea how 2 get back down 2 froyo:S
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Sorry, but if you don't understand this tutorial yoh should use stock-ROMs...
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Sorry, but if you don't understand this tutorial yoh should use stock-ROMs...
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every1 begins somewhere, undermining me doesnt really bother me. this forum is 2 help if you guys are too lazy to help me out thats your problem. i dont need u guys to call me incapable and unworthy of moding my phone. i posted and stated CLEARLY my level in this stuff, if you are unwilling 2 provide me with what I have asked for thankyou for viewing.
alos @ woolfclubs a Tutorial involves Step by step explaining from Ground ZERO, if some1 is willing 2 make a Video tutorial would be WAY simpler than making screenshots etc.
When i put simply honey on my phone it took no longer than 15 minutes with the help of a friend over skype. I would say if i have the files i could do it in 10(as there was trial and error). So am I asking for SO much?
I make golfclubs for a living mate. I can barely turn my laptop on, however, I do read and use the search function.
If you can't be arsed to do the same, then I doubt you'll get help here.
I refer you to my first post, and here i am giving you sound advice....... If you cannot understand the basic and well described tutorial, then cyanogen mod is NOT for you.
Insanity cm - superaosp kernel.
b3ava said:
every1 begins somewhere, undermining me doesnt really bother me. this forum is 2 help if you guys are too lazy to help me out thats your problem. i dont need u guys to call me incapable and unworthy of moding my phone. i posted and stated CLEARLY my level in this stuff, if you are unwilling 2 provide me with what I have asked for thankyou for viewing.
alos @ woolfclubs a Tutorial involves Step by step explaining from Ground ZERO, if some1 is willing 2 make a Video tutorial would be WAY simpler than making screenshots etc.
When i put simply honey on my phone it took no longer than 15 minutes with the help of a friend over skype. I would say if i have the files i could do it in 10(as there was trial and error). So am I asking for SO much?
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No one is being too lazy. I spent 2 minutes looking that post up and I did not need to. I've read it already.
EVERYTHING you need to know and all links are there. How hard can it be seriously.
Take heed on the advice given buddy. You should not be flashing cm7 period....
If you don't know about bootloaders, how to revert to froyo or use search in Google, just enjoy gingerbread.
Nobody is going to write you a personal tutorial on flashing when there are dozens of guides already plus I can only imagine the pages of troubleshooting you will generate. It is a Rom not for the faint hearted.
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b3ava said:
every1 begins somewhere, undermining me doesnt really bother me. this forum is 2 help if you guys are too lazy to help me out thats your problem. i dont need u guys to call me incapable and unworthy of moding my phone. i posted and stated CLEARLY my level in this stuff, if you are unwilling 2 provide me with what I have asked for thankyou for viewing.
alos @ woolfclubs a Tutorial involves Step by step explaining from Ground ZERO, if some1 is willing 2 make a Video tutorial would be WAY simpler than making screenshots etc.
When i put simply honey on my phone it took no longer than 15 minutes with the help of a friend over skype. I would say if i have the files i could do it in 10(as there was trial and error). So am I asking for SO much?
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Hi bud, i have installed numerous custom roms following instructions found on websites and i would NEVER touch cyanogen in it's current form. It is not stable enough for general day to day usage unless you are able to update regularly from the nightlies. Even then it is still too unstable to be of any use.
The new 2.3.4 stock rom is brilliant and has very few bugs (if any). If you really don't want to use a stock rom and are insistent on using a CM7 rom then i recommend Insanity instead. It is a very stable rom, supports ext4 file format, is based on CM7 but has none of the limitations that CM7 currently has.
The posts above were advising you very politely that if the instructions for installing CM7 are too difficult then not only are you going to have problems installing it but also using it too.
Hope all that helps
wow. i do not understand how you have time 2 sit here and tell me what a fool i am that i dont read etc. is it physically impossible for some1 not 2 understand how 2 do this? every thread i have read has numerous things i do not understand. reading something that i only understand about 20% of doesnt help.
I'm actually happy theres a person that replied without being an ass . Ty lembi2001 for making it clear that that rom has instability issues etc. I would appreciate any tutorials that are helpful, and also any suggestions on custom roms that look sweet and run well?
theres nothing wrong with the 1 im currently running. simplyhoney is giving me a quadrant benchmark of 1858, but i saw the cyanogen 1 and saw the limitless customizations available and thought it would be good.
thankyou again for your attention even though most of you are being pretty rude. if you didnt get help doesnt mean you shouldnt help.
sharing is caring.
lembi2001 said:
Hi bud, i have installed numerous custom roms following instructions found on websites and i would NEVER touch cyanogen in it's current form. It is not stable enough for general day to day usage unless you are able to update regularly
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My point exactly.
I know how to flash and cm7 is biach of a setup. Many things can and seem to go wrong. Nightlys sometimes improve things, sometimes not and then you have to revert back to some other nightly to then another bla bla bla.
Someone new to flashing will for sure run into problems.
Cm7 will be great when its sorted but for now why not just upgrade to stock JVQ.
Edit. Saw your last post.
Who's being rude???
you I think.
You're the one proclaiming you know nothing about flashing and unable to understand written directions. I never said you were dumb? Wtf.
Help yourself and
Harden the f#%k up.
Now that's rude.
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lembi2001 said:
Hi bud, i have installed numerous custom roms following instructions found on websites and i would NEVER touch cyanogen in it's current form. It is not stable enough for general day to day usage unless you are able to update regularly from the nightlies. Even then it is still too unstable to be of any use.
The new 2.3.4 stock rom is brilliant and has very few bugs (if any). If you really don't want to use a stock rom and are insistent on using a CM7 rom then i recommend Insanity instead. It is a very stable rom, supports ext4 file format, is based on CM7 but has none of the limitations that CM7 currently has.
The posts above were advising you very politely that if the instructions for installing CM7 are too difficult then not only are you going to have problems installing it but also using it too.
Hope all that helps
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Sorry, but that's bullsh*t. Only things that aren't working on CM7 at the moment are TV Out, FM-radio, 720p recording and it needs more battery than stock-ROMs. But all the other things work without any problems.
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Sorry, but that's bullsh*t. Only things that aren't working on CM7 at the moment are TV Out, FM-radio, 720p recording and it needs more battery than stock-ROMs. But all the other things work without any problems.
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That is sound advice actually.
What if the nightly that gets downloaded happens to have a bug, like err the builds as the new ril was implemented... for someone who is technology in efficient CM7 would be a nightmare.
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b3ava said:
as much as i read on these forums I cannot install ANY rom unless it is done STEP by step. not even kiding. I was lucky 2 find darkys rom (which was my first) from another site which i do not recall, and further more i recently installed simply honey with the assistance of a close relative of mine.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can any1 make a COMPLETE installation guide on how 2 install the latest cyanogen rom for me (like the level of cluelessness is 9/10)
I would well appreciate if an explanation of what basebands etc and wtf voodoo lagfix and whatever are. i do not understand when i read about flashing unless it is shown 2 me directly, i dont know if that even involves odin or when odin comes in or if there are other programs. all help is well apreciated. i hope there are no other complete guides for idiots on this forum( like me).
Thankyou in advance 2 any1 that can help me achieve what i am trying 2 do
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Sorry to say, but I have to agree with the others, if that guide is complex then trying CM7 is 100% not for you.
Stick with JVP etc until a final cm7 is out.
Im saying this from the perspective of a person who can compile cm7, even I don't use it. Far too unfinished on a sgs for now.
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Vorbeth said:
That is sound advice actually.
What if the nightly that gets downloaded happens to have a bug, like err the builds as the new ril was implemented... for someone who is technology in efficient CM7 would be a nightmare.
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Well, non-technics should not use CM7 then. If the latest nightly has some heavy bugs just restore the CWM-backup you have done before.
And you don't have to flash each nightly.
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@b3ava - as far as quadrant scores go they are not worth the screen they are displayed on. Run quadrant three times in a row and you will see that it changes each time.
I honestly don't recommend CM7 to you because of the numerous problems you will encounter. Try the rom i recommended to you and see how you feel about it.
@Lunchbox - where in what i put is the Bullsh!t that you so eloquently pointed out? I was merely advising to another user that they WILL encounter problems with CM7. How do you know that he doesn't use the Radio on a day to day basis? How do you know that he doesn't require the ability to record HD video? As i previously stated it is too unstable for day to day usage. You also forgot to point out the 2G/3G toggle bug, No Low Power mode. I don't intend on getting into an argument with you about this but you shouldn't be so flippant as disregard VALID points so abruptly.
@Lembi: you said that it isn't usable cause of bugs and so on. I'm happy that I can do everything with my phone until it shuts off because of no battery. 2G/3G-toggle: easy solution: the energysteering (don't know the exact english word , it's a widget). With this you can easily enable/disable 3G without any problems.
So CM7 is not such buggy you said.
Sorry, for saying 'Bullsh*t'. But you are right: if you want a perfect ROM where everything works you shouldn't choose CM.
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@Lunchbox - i might have over-reacted a little bit
Anyhow, b3ava, hope you will take the advice given to you as it was intended!!

Got my galaxy note!

Hey guys.
My galaxy note will be arriving tomorrow. And just been reading the sticky about peoples devices becoming un-usable after flashing certain ICS roms.
Want to know what advice on ROMS people have got to give me as I want to flash a custom rom before I start using it.
Throw anything at me, what to stay away from and what not.
Welcome to the note, I'm sure you'll be overwhelmed as I was for the first 3 or so days, and that doesn't really seem to wear off too much
We've got a great amount of development and support going on for this device. If you're interested in ics straight off, check out the following thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659768. That shows you the safe builds vs the current affected ICS kernels that could brick you. Personally, CM9 and paranoid Android are the most enticing, although both in early stages.
Also, check out Dr. Ketans guide to ROM installation and rooting, it's a sticky in the ROM development section and has everything you need to get rooted and cwm installation which you will need on your out of the box gingerbread before you can flash custom roms and kernels.
There's loads on here, and everybody has their own preferences, so hunt around. I hope you get as much joy, and fear, as I do
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Hey guys.
My galaxy note will be arriving tomorrow. And just been reading the sticky about peoples devices becoming un-usable after flashing certain ICS roms.
Want to know what advice on ROMS people have got to give me as I want to flash a custom rom before I start using it.
Throw anything at me, what to stay away from and what not.
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Welcome! Just stay away from anything and everything related to ICS except the official CM9 nightlies. basically its the only safe way to get ICS on the phone (at the cost of S-memo etc. of course).
Thats about it, really. you might feel too big at first but give it 5 days and everything else will just seem too small. dat screen.
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Welcome! Just stay away from anything and everything related to ICS except the official CM9 nightlies. basically its the only safe way to get ICS on the phone (at the cost of S-memo etc. of course).
Thats about it, really. you might feel too big at first but give it 5 days and everything else will just seem too small. dat screen.
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Custom ROMs - questions

Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
wvcadle said:
Hello again. I have been flirting with the idea of flashing a custom ROM, but never could bring myself to do it, mostly because, up until now, I didn't have a mainstream phone (Milestone X with nTelos). Now that I have a Nexus 4, I know that it's completely feasible. But, I have several questions before I do. Most of them are about comparisons, but some are about topics that I just don't understand. I know that probably every question has been answered on here somewhere, but the problem with finding the answers lies in sifting through hundreds of pages of threads and topics, where people are talking about a hundred different things. It's quite the overwhelming task to even know where to start. So, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask those questions here.
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
What I'm really looking for in a custom ROM isn't completely the ability to customize every last detail and setting. Rather, I'm mostly interested in something that just 'pops'.. something that looks and feels awesome compared to a stock ROM. Beauty, speed, responsiveness and most of all, battery life, are what I'm after.
Speaking of responsiveness, I've learned that this community is A+ when it comes to assisting those of us that seek more Android knowledge, so, allow me to say 'thanks' ahead of time!
Btw, obviously, I'm running stock 4.2.2, am unlocked and rooted, and have TWRP recovery.
Regards.
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1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
Vangelis13 said:
1. No
2. No
3. Lots to fear. Can go back though.
4. Search, read, & learn a bit before you start flashing. You need to know EVERYTHING about everything ahead of flashing.
5. Apps are OS version / phone / country dependent.
6. Yes
You have a bit of searching but l o a d s of reading ahead of you.
Good luck!
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I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
wvcadle said:
1. What are the 3-4 major, stable custom ROMs available for the N4?
2. What are the benefits, or highlights of each ROM when compared to the others?
3. As long as I have a current Nandroid backup, I really have nothing to fear, correct? I could always go back?
4. What are the really technical things I see people talking about (radios, baseband versions, I think), and do those apply to flashing a custom ROM? Will I have to know anything about them?
5. Will any app downloaded from the Play store work on any custom ROM? The two I'm most concerned with are GV and Messaging + GV.
6. Will my phone operate just as it does now, or will I have to input a lot of settings to get it to work with my carrier?
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1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
wvcadle said:
I guess I'm not understanding your answers to numbers 1 and 2. Are you saying you can't answer those questions, or that you won't.
As for the rest, thanks, really. But although I generally always appreciate brevity, it doesn't really help me here. I have done a lot of reading on the topic, but the problem is that everyone that's talking about this custom ROM or that one already knows quite a bit, and is discussing some quite technical (like flashing this radio or that one). Another main problem I have is that I'm not sure which ROM I'd like to flash. If I could narrow it down by features, pros and cons, then I could narrow my attention to that particular ROM, and save myself a lot of trouble.
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Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
Vangelis13 said:
Only you can answer them.
Start with a simple rom, with few modifications so you don't get overwhelmed.
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I was reading for a week before I rooted and flashed a rom on my n1, can guarantee you many if not most in here started like that.
You want to have it all answered in a thread & spooned to you?
I'm sorry to say but you're starting wrong.
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Believe me, I'm not asking for anything to be spooned to me. I mean, if I could at least get some help in figuring out which ROM I'd like to flash, that would be appreciated. I could certainly do the leg work if I could just get help deciding on which ROM. I stated in my OP the type of things I'd like to have in a custom ROM. Didn't what I posted put one or two in your head? If so, may I ask which ones? Even with your opening sentence of this reply, you said to start with a simple rom. Any examples?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009561
At least he has an op that explains a fair bit.
Roastgoat said:
1. Google have yet to release their Binaries to AOSP so many of the AOSP based ROMs are still unstable / nightly
2. This CNET article is a good starting point (here)
3. Maybe ADB backup is better to backup your app APKs and data, and an ADB sdcard pull is better to backup your sdcard. Nandroid is good if your restoring a ROM back to an earlier snapshot, but can become messy going from, say, CM10.1 back to stock
4. search and read, read, read
thats all I got. Good luck.
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They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
wvcadle - It's hard to say what the best roms are since that's mostly personal taste but some of the more popular roms are ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, Xylon and slimbean. There is a questions section that has lots of threads comparing roms.
neotekz said:
They are more stable than you think, i wouldnt call some of the better ones unstable or nightlies. i've been running aokp for a few months now and it's very stable no major bugs over stock rom for me.
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I have tried PA and CM10.1, both of which I liked but some minor issues have me back to stock and waiting for stable releases. I think personally I would go CM10.1 once stable.
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
JanusDC said:
Test several ROMs, then decide which one better fits your expectations. Nobody can tell which is the best.
I have tested 3 or 4, then I went back to stock and just added some tweeks to it. But hey, that's me!
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I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
wvcadle said:
I think I'm going to try Modaco's ROM first. Do you know what Kernel it uses? Is it the stock kernel? I'd like to flash Franco's kernel, as I hear it has improved battery life.
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I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
irishman103 said:
I wouldn't jump into kernel flashing so fast. I'd try a couple of ROMs first.
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Well, I just flashed my first Custom ROM. I'm pretty stoked! Even though it's one of the simpler ROMs, it's still pretty cool. Hopefully I don't get hooked!
So, is flashing a custom kernel more dangerous than ROMs? I heard Franco has an app he created to flash his kernels.
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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irishman103 said:
I wouldn't say its dangerous. There's just more things to tweak and mess with. Voltages, gamma, CPU speed, etc. I'd just get comfortable with flashing ROMs and finding what you want first. And yes, flashing is an addiction. You will now flash hundreds of times only to find you want to flash a hundred more.
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Will the other ROMs not work right out of the box, or would I need to tweak all of those settings to get them to work?
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All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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TBH it will take you some time to learn everything. All the questions you need answered will come in time with you learning Android. Its best to learn by LOTS of reading but you also need some trial and error. You will learn what Roms work best for you and which dont. You will see that you dont always need a custom kernel, and perhaps your screen only needs to 2 more clicks of saturation to have 2.2 gamma while others need to tweak across the board. Once again you gain that knowledge over time. You will get in trouble from time to time, not have help and possibly brick badly, but you learn to fix and work it out, and THAT is really where you learn lots. When you hit a roadblock READ and you will have your answer and in the process gain the knowledge you need.
Good luck and enjoy the hobby!
irishman103 said:
All the ROMs will work out the box. Developers will not turn over incomplete ROMs to the end users. Like now I'm using Paranoid Android...works beautifully, but there are tons of settings built in to mess with. Other ROMs don't have some of its features and vise versa. With kernels, I use the stock kernel with it. I've flashed other kernels but in MY opinion, I like the stock one. So read up on some ROMs, back up and flash some to see what you will like
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You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
wvcadle said:
You've been a great help. Really. And I appreciate it. I just realized there was a 'Thanks' button on this forum, so you've got my first one.
One last question, and I'll leave you be... promise (I think!): The three things I'm most concerned with in a ROM deal with power consumption, speed, and, yes, beauty. I can safely say I will never try to overclock my phone, or change any really deep settings. Do those three items bring any specific ROM or two to mind that you can point me in the direction towards?
Thanks again!
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No problem. Glad I could help.
And your last question is the ultimate question...lol. It's all about how you use your phone. One ROM might be more efficient for you than it would be for me. You might watch a lot of videos and don't have good reception. That could drain your battery. I'd go with ROMs that have a good thread. Read and read about the ROM before you flash it. Read the first pages and the last. I personally like Paranoid Android and AOKP ROMs. Look in the original development section and read up on Liquid Smooth, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. They are really great out the box and no overclocking or "deep settings" needed. If you have any questions about the two I like I'll be more than happy to answer any questions. Just PM or email me.
Ok, MoDaCo on my N4 and PA 3.0 on my N7!
Yes, flashing custom roms is becoming a hobby!

Looking to get the G2

Hello,
So I'm looking at getting the G2 for T-Mobile.
How is the Root and ROM scene coming along? It looks like there is a pretty simple and solid way to root, although it seems like only stock ROMs for now. Also I didn't see to seem a recovery thread for the TMO phone?
How soon does it look like we will start seeing the flagship ROMs? Like AOSPA, AOKP, PAC, etc. Also, with those ROMs, would it be possible to carry over some of the LG features like knock on?
Thank you in advance!
Just read a few threads and you'll get your answer.
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iytrix said:
Hello,
So I'm looking at getting the G2 for T-Mobile.
How is the Root and ROM scene coming along? It looks like there is a pretty simple and solid way to root, although it seems like only stock ROMs for now. Also I didn't see to seem a recovery thread for the TMO phone?
How soon does it look like we will start seeing the flagship ROMs? Like AOSPA, AOKP, PAC, etc. Also, with those ROMs, would it be possible to carry over some of the LG features like knock on?
Thank you in advance!
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Its like you didnt even try to read through the dev sections, there are already AOSPA, AOKP, CM and stock based ROMS all in the development section. You cannot miss them. Rooting method is clearly discussed in these threads too...
Knock on already works on these...read please.
This is an asinine OP thread...
Walter21026 said:
Its like you didnt even try to read through the dev sections, there are already AOSPA, AOKP, CM and stock based ROMS all in the development section. You cannot miss them. Rooting method is clearly discussed in these threads too...
Knock on already works on these...read please.
This is an asinine OP thread...
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I went through the threads, saw NONE of what your talking about. Went again, repeat story.
I see FOUR ROMs and ALL of them are stock rooted. Not a single other ROM.
So I go to android development, main thread there. Zero ROMs. EDIT: Found 2 modded stock in here. Both of them were in the TMO dev section already though.
Alright, original development, I see a few ROMs, none mention if they will work on tmobile.
On stuff like the CM ROM, assuming it works, no where does it say if knock on was ported/works at all, and NOTHING about the other features.
I still have no idea where you're seeing that AOSPA thread. Not in dev, original dev, or TMO dev.
Also, if you actually read what I said instead of being an assuming jerk. You'd see I said that I say the root method, and it looks pretty easy and solid. I didn't ask if it had root, or how to do it, just saying that I did find that thread, and it looked easy and like it applied to all variants of the phone.
So, why so mean? I read the forums, I found none of the answers. Then you get mad, telling me to read the forums, and again, nothing there. So apparently there is a magical forums with all these threads you are finding, and that's why I'm asking.
iytrix said:
I went through the threads, saw NONE of what your talking about. Went again, repeat story.
I see FOUR ROMs and ALL of them are stock rooted. Not a single other ROM.
So I go to android development, main thread there. Zero ROMs. EDIT: Found 2 modded stock in here. Both of them were in the TMO dev section already though.
Alright, original development, I see a few ROMs, none mention if they will work on tmobile.
On stuff like the CM ROM, assuming it works, no where does it say if knock on was ported/works at all, and NOTHING about the other features.
I still have no idea where you're seeing that AOSPA thread. Not in dev, original dev, or TMO dev.
Also, if you actually read what I said instead of being an assuming jerk. You'd see I said that I say the root method, and it looks pretty easy and solid. I didn't ask if it had root, or how to do it, just saying that I did find that thread, and it looked easy and like it applied to all variants of the phone.
So, why so mean? I read the forums, I found none of the answers. Then you get mad, telling me to read the forums, and again, nothing there. So apparently there is a magical forums with all these threads you are finding, and that's why I'm asking.
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Excuse me you did say "ROM scene" so taking all the G2 ROMs collectively, I'm putting it out there that collectively we have all these Roms already. Check the Verizon thread as well. Those Roms I was talking about are there. You wanted an answer to your "ROM scene" you got the answer. Next time choose your words more carefully. Sorry if I misunderstood you on your question here.
He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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room511 said:
He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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This plus a couple devs just got and or are about to get the T-Mobile G2...get the phone first. Stock is a beast anyway.
You're not going to need to do much tweaking at all because of how fast and fluid the phone comes out the box
By the time your treaty to stretch out your wings the Roms will be there waiting
tiguy99 said:
This plus a couple devs just got and or are about to get the T-Mobile G2...get the phone first. Stock is a beast anyway.
You're not going to need to do much tweaking at all because of how fast and fluid the phone comes out the box
By the time your treaty to stretch out your wings the Roms will be there waiting
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100% agreed!
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room511 said:
He did ask about T-mobile though in his op.
I believe it's just stock roms at the moment.
Rooting is solid and easy.
Great way to get rid of bloatware.
I think we just have to give it time for "other" roms to come.
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Thanks. Yeah I assumed as much but was hoping for otherwise.
Yes I was talking about T-Mobile. I thought that made sense but I could see how the other guys read it as just a general question.
I already see some decent looking stock ROMs that should hold me over until a real AOSP or CM base ROM comes out. I assume we have no ETAs on that. The optimus g (on sprint) still has pretty much ONE person porting 95% of all the ROMs. He's great at it, and updates all the ROMs weekly, but still, if he fell of the face of the earth, that phone would probably almost never get an updated ROM besides the CM builds and the one official ROM, PACman.
I got the phone yesterday....and dear god. The screen, form factor, buttons on the back....all of it is amazing. At 67% battery life and it's been running since noon yesterday. My old optimus G is at 75%....and it's been running for only 3 hours. Such an insane battery, I love it.
I am waiting to hear back from Sprint, in a battle to cancel my contract and get some discount on the ETF. I actually have a decent poor service case so we'll see how that goes. Worst case I'll just cancel the TMO plan and keep the phone until I can cancel Sprint.
I'll probably wait on rooting and using a ROM for a bit. Although I can't STAND the high DPI (on any phone really, I always have most of my apps on my other phones at 240 DPI or so) or the notification bar. Is there any non root way to change that? If not I may root today just so I can at least change the DPI and look in to the notification bar. Quick settings aren't even that bad. It's that brightness and ringer slider that I can't seem to turn off. I can't imagine why they though all this, plus qslide on by default, would be a nice experience for the user.
Most of the rest of the ROM they got right though, with some pretty nice features.
Thanks for the help, all of you!

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