Did you know that with regards to BLN, it actually drains battery by an noticeable amount. I switched to speedmod (w/o BLN) and seem to get much better battery life. Previously I was trying various kernel to determine the issue with the higher than average (the standard being custom roms) battery drain. This might be helpful to you guys.
Yes it does, with the current implementation it does not prevent the phone from going back to sleep state unlike how it was done on the S1.
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Yes it does, with the current implementation it does not prevent the phone from going back to sleep state unlike how it was done on the S1.
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Yeap, it is because of the wakelock issues. I've tried setting a time-out for the BLN which is suppose to help return the device to deepsleep but seems like it doesn't work.
I have noticed this as well. Can anyone confirm whether or not simply uninstalling the app will resolve the issue, or would I have to flash a different kernel that doesn't support bln at all to resolve the battery usage issue?
Uninstalling the app, and not using bln will stop the battery drain.
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Uninstalling the app, and not using bln will stop the battery drain.
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Hope this is true, cause I don't use BLN although the kernel i use has it included.
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I have noticed this as well. Can anyone confirm whether or not simply uninstalling the app will resolve the issue, or would I have to flash a different kernel that doesn't support bln at all to resolve the battery usage issue?
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Yes. Try uninstaller BLN control app. See if that helps. If your battery does not improve by a noticeable amount, I think your best bet would be to try to flash another kernel such as speedmod.
Yup, hate BLN myself actually its a massive battery drainer. Never use it, dont really see a point to it either as for me the phone is in my pocket most of the day.
NoLEd have any issue like BLN? Seems like they are the best 'led notifier'.
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NoLEd have any issue like BLN? Seems like they are the best 'led notifier'.
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When NoLed is on, your phone is not in deep sleep. So yes it drains your battery.
what is BLN?
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NoLEd have any issue like BLN? Seems like they are the best 'led notifier'.
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Same thing, also drains.
daz_2000 said:
what is BLN?
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http://www.google.com/cse?q=bln&sa=Search&cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704%3Afs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
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NoLEd have any issue like BLN? Seems like they are the best 'led notifier'.
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noled is even worst as its keeping bits of the screen powered on.
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When NoLed is on, your phone is not in deep sleep. So yes it drains your battery.
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Pfeffernuss said:
Same thing, also drains.
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noled is even worst as its keeping bits of the screen powered on.
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But in stand by, without notification on, BLN still eating and NoLed not? You can configure a timeout to NoLed auto dismiss...
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But in stand by, without notification on, BLN still eating and NoLed not? You can configure a timeout to NoLed auto dismiss...
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Bln only drains the battery when it is active (it keeps it out of deep sleep)
you can see this by pressing the home button and the phone instantly wakes up, when the phone is in deep sleep there is a "delay" when you wake it up...
This is why bln for the sgs2 it is highly suggested you get the pro bln app so you can schedule it to time out so the phone can go back into deep sleep (if you never clear the notification)
If you have the free version then it will keep the phone awake until you clear the notification
If you have a kernel that is bln compatible and don't want to use it...then either disable it in the app or unistall the bln app.
the bln functions won't work wiithout the app.
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This research is completly based on previous posts here on xda by other members + based on my testing:
1. Get app CpuSpy from the market. Observe with it if your phone goes to "deep sleep" or not.
2. If you see your phone doesn't enter deep sleep, go to Applications, Battery use and close all applications like default Email app (that caused my phone to constantly use ~245Mhz of my CPU when idle), also check your widgets for various weather updates, ...
3. Apply latest franco kernel (with my experience, this kernel also improved my battery life)
4. Make sure you have turned off in Settings, Date & Time, "Automatic".
5. Disable data transfer under Wireless & Networks.
6. Set Brightness level to Automatic as screen drains the battery alot.
7. Apply the custom roms provided here (MIUI, Oxygen) which are based on Gingerbread (2.3), which also has better battery usage than FroYo (2.2), especialy on U8800.
Hope this helps for some people here
Thanks for the information
but I think if I do all of that, it makes no sense to buy a smartphone in first place
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Thanks for the information
but I think if I do all of that, it makes no sense to buy a smartphone in first place
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no sense? damn you crazy! the guy says nothing about any of crucial smarphones features. What you can't live with automatic brightness? or with franco kernel?
Selecting 2g over 3g aimake huge difference in battery life.
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no sense? damn you crazy! the guy says nothing about any of crucial smarphones features. What you can't live with automatic brightness? or with franco kernel?
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only the data connection otherwise ur right as hell
THE BIGGEST impact on battery life is as you all may know- DISPLAY. You can disable everything, but those things only takes 20-30% of battery everything else is for display. So.. turn ir off D Its very bad that all roms allows you only to minimize brightness to 11% but i want to minimize it even more, but they do not allow me. cause at nights 11% is too bright for me.
I even thinking to compile my own modified franco kernel just because of that DD But with MIUI rom it shows bull**** in battery usage.
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no sense? damn you crazy! the guy says nothing about any of crucial smarphones features. What you can't live with automatic brightness? or with franco kernel?
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if magictwins means points (2) and (5), i have to agree with him..
theres no point in using a smartphone if i do as suggested..
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no sense? damn you crazy! the guy says nothing about any of crucial smarphones features. What you can't live with automatic brightness? or with franco kernel?
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I didn't mean any of them. I mean all of them...
I agree with the guy that said there is no much point using smartphone if you don't use data or application syncs etc. At least thats why I use android phones.
Ps. Tommixoft is just a regular forum troll / flamer. Always writing in in caps and flaming. Don't feed him.
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I just wanted to post few tips for better battery performance. Anyhow, to the trolls in this topic:
Yesterday i discovered a nice app called 2X battery and tried it today.
As usually my battery goes from 100 to 50 by 12hrs, so with this 2xbattery on, its almost 15hrs and batter is still 67%
nice app 10p
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Yesterday i discovered a nice app called 2X battery and tried it today.
As usually my battery goes from 100 to 50 by 12hrs, so with this 2xbattery on, its almost 15hrs and batter is still 67%
nice app 10p
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It maybe usefull for people who don't know what they do.. I can't imagen how it can save battery when my brighness is on lowest possition, gps, data, wi-fi, sync, bluetooth is disabled and 2G enabled. So i don't have a clue how app can help
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It maybe usefull for people who don't know what they do.. I can't imagen how it can save battery when my brighness is on lowest possition, gps, data, wi-fi, sync, bluetooth is disabled and 2G enabled. So i don't have a clue how app can help
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exactly, it just helps the "non nerds" out there with zero to little knowledge of their device and OS
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exactly, it just helps the "non nerds" out there with zero to little knowledge of their device and OS
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it just common sense, no need to be nerd. We al know that everything that is running - uses cpu - cpu uses energy so it's battery - that's the whole nerd part
Can you update the franco Kernel on a stock rom? and If I don't like it, if I restore backup from clockworkmod will the old kernel come back?
Thanks
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Can you update the franco Kernel on a stock rom? and If I don't like it, if I restore backup from clockworkmod will the old kernel come back?
Thanks
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AFAIK no. Franco stated that his kernel only works with 2.3 ROM. The stock one is 2.2.
I'm closing this thread. Whatever I did seemed to work only temporary..
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I have been reading a a lot about this bug...
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If u stop software update, samsung dive stops working i found this out long tome ago, but it might be different now on 2.3.5
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or you can use the siyah kernel which supposedly fixed the aos problem.
based on my current usage, it shows:
1d 9h 14m on battery
2h 11m display time on
android os 3%.
theres still 39% battery left.
for me thats good enough.
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I'm closing this thread. Whatever I did seemed to work only temporary..
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And another placebo fix to add to the plethora of supposed fixes for the bug.
Install CM7 to fix the bug.
robbiev80 said:
Install CM7 to fix the bug.
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Sorry, but nope
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Sorry, but nope
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- Put phone in freezer until draining process is frozen?
- Sing "Twinkle, Twinkle, little star" before going to bed with phone, so it will slide into deep sleep very smoothly without waking up?
- *[MOD] OMG, my battery lasts for 3,5 months already. TRY THIS FIX*
Turn phone off and leave off to save battery?
Hello! I was wondering why suddenly my Android OS was at 70-90% when it was below 50% when i got the phone in first place. I then started thinking what could cause the drain and then i remembered someone saying that the torch needs a lot of permissions, so i thought that was it, and yes that was causing the drain. So all i wanna say is not to use the torch widget because it apparently likes eating your battery... My battery goes about like 10% in 30min not using the phone at all with the torch widget, but if i remove it from the homescreen, it goes only like 2-5% in a hour. I hope this helps people struggling with battery problems. Please use the thank you button if this helped you.
I have noticed some odd behavior from that widget, such as it becoming unresponsive. Although I did find it handy I am taking it off immediately.
Know of any alternatives to try out?
Yeah i experienced the unresponsiveness too some times. If you want an alternative, you should look for them in the Android market. Theres heaps of them. I cant link any yet because im on my phone. When i get to a computer i will.
EDIT: This is a really good alternative i think https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLG51bGwsImNvbS5kZXZ1bmkuZmxhc2hsaWdodCJd
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beestee said:
I have noticed some odd behavior from that widget, such as it becoming unresponsive. Although I did find it handy I am taking it off immediately.
Know of any alternatives to try out?
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Just go to "setting>>Accessibility>>Assistive light" to enable touch..
Its already have build in setting..
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Anyone can recommend a good flashlight app which allows to adjust the brightness of the LED flash, just like the widget does? Thanks.
Hmm SanQ, I was thinking about what you said here and tried removing the battery widget and see if it was true. And hey, the battery life does improve! Looks like the widget got some serious problem. So many permission accesses!
Good to see that my tip is working for you guys.
Is the torch widget a stock widget?
Yes it is on KL7 and up i think.
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Today I went from 70% battery to 20% in under 3 hours of mostly idle usage after using the widget. The strange thing is that yesterday I used it, too, and I had no adverse effects. So... sooooo strange. Hello new app!
yeah... Mine is about 3 months old.. I got it from technotradinghouse in the US..local in Missouri..
Mine never did have a torch widjet..
Still doesnt..
what gives???
I had to d/l mini flashlite from the market.
thanks.. jh
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yeah... Mine is about 3 months old.. I got it from technotradinghouse in the US..local in Missouri..
Mine never did have a torch widjet..
Still doesnt..
what gives???
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Same here. Mine is only 10 days old (on Vodafone UK, stock 2.3.6, KK9) and I don't have a torch widget.
I'm using one called "Tiny Flashlight + LED" and it's great.
Also, people are saying that with the torch widget removed their battery is only using 2-5% per hour when idle. I don't get it... that's a lot isn't it?
Are custom ROMs really power hungry or something? I'm on the stock ROM and it uses about 0.5% per hour when idle for me.
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Just go to "setting>>Accessibility>>Assistive light" to enable touch..
Its already have build in setting..
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Exactly. Enable accessibility shortcut too so that it is accessible from power button
Does anybody have any tips for this?
vPro97 said:
Does anybody have any tips for this?
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Turn it off. lol
vPro97 said:
Does anybody have any tips for this?
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i turned it off to avoid drain
Haha thanks guys but in fact I was searching for some mod
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how can have battery drain with knock on?
emprize said:
how can have battery drain with knock on?
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Knock on basically makes the sensors in the phone constantly active - ready for you to knock knock. This drains battery.
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Knock on basically makes the sensors in the phone constantly active - ready for you to knock knock. This drains battery.
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not for our phone mate, snapdragon 800 has microprocessor to control sensors when the device is in deep sleep, so the device can still response for sensor while deep sleep for quad core cpu, and thats why u cant find any way to reduce the battery drain, because it is basically zero battery drain for knock on, u can install apps like battery monitor widget to monitor about the battery usage
No matter what I do I get this drain. Android os is keeping awake for 4 hrs in 12 hrs of sitting in my car. Apparently instead of dozing it says don't go to sleep instead drain the battery. I'm using amplify and app ops xposed to stop wakelocks even. Running pure nexus. Doesn't matter if its fresh install or not. Any ideas?
root and install better battery stats
Well you clearly have something waking your system. Though too much wakeblocking is just as bad. Perhaps try something else, like greenify. Most likely some rogue app.
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root and install better battery stats
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teh roxxorz said:
Well you clearly have something waking your system. Though too much wakeblocking is just as bad. Perhaps try something else, like greenify. Most likely some rogue app.
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Better battery stats didnt really tell much It seems to only happen if WiFi is on and not connected so I'll try turning it off and see. I pretty much removed everything from amplify last night and turned off WiFi and there was no drain. I'm getting amazing battery life today tho. But no dozing so I'll see tonight I guess.
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Better battery stats didnt really tell much It seems to only happen if WiFi is on and not connected so I'll try turning it off and see. I pretty much removed everything from amplify last night and turned off WiFi and there was no drain. I'm getting amazing battery life today tho. But no dozing so I'll see tonight I guess.
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If that's the case, you probably have an RX wakelock, and flashing a custom kernel [kylo for example] has that as a simple wakelock toggle you can enable.
Or block it by other means.
teh roxxorz said:
If that's the case, you probably have an RX wakelock, and flashing a custom kernel [kylo for example] has that as a simple wakelock toggle you can enable.
Or block it by other means.
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Thanks kylo was my next thing to try But I just wrote a tasker profile to automate WiFi on off that should take care of it. If that fails kylo is next. Thanks a bunch
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Thanks kylo was my next thing to try But I just wrote a tasker profile to automate WiFi on off that should take care of it. If that fails kylo is next. Thanks a bunch
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No problem, also:
Kylo Downloads, since renderserver isn't being updated.
Also also: when in the kernel, there is a bug with all 4 wlan toggles, make sure it shows up as 'disabled' [toggle to the left] to have it enabled.
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No problem, also:
Kylo Downloads, since renderserver isn't being updated.
Also also: when in the kernel, there is a bug with all 4 wlan toggles, make sure it shows up as 'disabled' [toggle to the left] to have it enabled.
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You mean 3?
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You mean 3?
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Exactly, 4 - 1 = 3...Can't see the clear text?
You know I had this kind of drain yesterday.
https://imgur.com/a/BtOAh
Honestly Android OS is the worst kind of drain because its hard to find a smoking gun. It's just the OS doing something we don't know.. While Facebook had its wakelocks, the thing is Facebook itself is not draining that much. Something else is going on.
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No problem, also:
Kylo Downloads, since renderserver isn't being updated.
Also also: when in the kernel, there is a bug with all 4 wlan toggles, make sure it shows up as 'disabled' [toggle to the left] to have it enabled.
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Never mind. Link
wasn't working but is now
I have this as my biggest culprit. I wish I could figure it out
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Smallsmx3 said:
I have this as my biggest culprit. I wish I could figure it out
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Only advice I have is make sure searching for open WiFi isn't checked, under location make sure the scanning options are unchecked and kylos kernel seems to be helping as suggested in previous posts using the wake lock preventions.
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You mean 3?
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Stupid question but how do you get to those settings for kylo?