Rom manager or recovery? - Wildfire General

Should I use rom manager or recovery to restore a backup, which is easier
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I prefer Recovery. Used it many times, and no issues. I don't think anyone is more difficult though, both are equally easy.

If I'm not mistaken, it is said that you best restore a backup with the recovery version you have taken it with.
This is a thing you should think about only when ROM Manager uses a different version of the Recovery than the one that is really your recovery.
So if they are different, I think you should use the one you have taken the backup with.
(correct me if I'm wrong!)
Erwin

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Idiot noob nandroid backup question

I'll just get it out of the way now. I know i am a total noob, idiot, moron. Oh, and I worship the feet of the XDA general forum. I'm a little confused with the whole nandroid, clockworkmod, and odin thing. I like to do minor mods ie root, lag fix and taking other apks from other phones like the nfl.apk from the fasinate. Now i have clockworkmod and have made a backup of my rom. Would that be considered the nandroid backup. I have already used it to restore my rom and it now works fine. Is odin a backup software used from my computer instead of inside my phone like clockwork,but uses the backup that i made fromclockwork. Im confused can i get some help please im an idiot.
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Rom Manager > Recovery > Nandroid
So yes if you've used Rom Manager and/or Recovery yes, you backed up aka made a Nandroid backup.
I just prefer to use Rom Manager because its an easy interface to get into Recovery and do other simple tasks. I however only really boot into Recovery to restore my Roms just because I'm a bit of a control freak like that. I like creating backups via Rom Manager because it will drop into Recovery, create the backup and then reboot all on its own.
Cool thanks for the response, it clears alot up.
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No problem.
After a while everything starts to make sense, but at first you just have to like I did read, read and read until you start to gleem things and it all starts to pull together.
Next thing you know your phone is so far beyond stock and you wonder what the heck did I do. LOL

ROM manager backup vs recovery back up

Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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Well it is possible to go back in Rom manager and rename the backups to something else.
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Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
jentzschman2000 said:
Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
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There has been a lot of issues with rom manager making bad backups and bad flashes particularly when using recovery version 3.0.0.x. Flashing and doing nandroids from within recovery has proven to be more stable.
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jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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They were both made by the same person and do the same thing with exception of naming the backup. Problem is that Rom Manager is not compatible the recovery we have to use yet.
edit: Finaly on the PC and not on the app. In the time it took me to type the answer and take the dogs out there were 2 more posts.
Anyways, to explain just a little more.
Rom manager just hasnt been updated yet for 3.x recoverys yet. Only 4 or 5 phones even require a different recovery in order to flash CM7 so there is no point for him to update it yet. Our phone just happens to be one of them.
Pros of recovery
More access to different types of wipes
can mount system to push files to system via Adb
Ability to reformat
Can do advanced restore of backups
Can read what your flash is doing and if it was succesfull.
Cons
Cant rename backup from there
Have to reboot manually and scroll with trackball rather than 1 click.
Pros of Rom Manager
Eay one click back up that you can rename
Phone reboots by itself after flash.
Cons
See all the pros for recovery.
If your flash errors for some reason you dont get to see why or where it happened.
With that being said. I totaly recomend Rom Manager because I love it but unfortunatly its not compatable for nandroiding with 3.x recoveries.
Now you might be able to flash mods that are in zip form through Rom Manager. Not sure on that one but I can check for ya if you want,

ROM Manager question

Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
durrett syndrome said:
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
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In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
Backup your apps with Titanium backup.
I suggest doing both rom manager and titanium backup
Just in case.
If you go to a differemt rom you could restore all apps in clockwork by going into advanced restore under cwm and choosing to restore only /data however with some roms that's not recommended and could cause issues. If you restore the whole backup through cwm then it would overwrite whatever rom you have loaded.
With titanium backup you can backup just individual applications and restore their data or data and the app itself so as someone else said above that's your best bet.
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futureprospect said:
In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
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Backing up with rom manager is literally backing up with clockwork mod. ROM manager just reboots the phone into cwm and makes the backup there. Clockwork mod backups have always worked for me.
When I tried to use ROM Manager it wouldn't work properly. Someone a while ago complained that booting into cwm with the app causes errors. I wouldn't rely on the app at all if I were you.
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Manually boot into cwm and backup, the app doesnt work properly. I tried backing up a rom and it said it was backed up after 10 seconds. The rom file was 3 mbs...the backup should be near 100, if not more.
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Gotta add my cold water here. ROM manager has been less than useless for me, screwing up things every time I've tried it.
Stick to backing up the entire system from CWM, and a full backup via Titanium to have access to individual apps as needed. This has always worked for me, and many others here.
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So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
durrett syndrome said:
So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
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Technically, yes, but it is not recommended. Restoring data when moving between roms is usually when errors start happening. Also Rom manager does not work with the epic so there is probably no data in the file it created. You would have to boot into clockwork mod and backup from there.or use titanium backup and then restore just the apps when you switch roms.
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Just my 2 cents...everyone here keeps saying to use Titanium, give Mybackup Root a try. Its free and has a good UI. Titanium seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Other than that, the other posts here are correct, it doesnt matter what ROM you are running when you make or restore a backup, apps and their data will transfer and restore just fine, BUT like stated by others, system data does not always play well between ROMs and in my opinion you are better off not trying to restore that when you switch between ROMs...has given me more than one headache.
+1 on MyBackup Root. I find it to be more user friendly and just as effective as Titanium as well. I make a backup of everything (apks,data,photos,system settings, etc) at 4am everyday while I'm asleep. I plan on sticking with ACS so this is just a security net since they still do not use journaling. However if I want to try a different rom I can always choose to restore only the apks from the backup file.
The epic has not gotten rom manager support yet so it doesn't work and cwm can fail if you are switching between cm7 and acs cwm will give you a md5 mismatch so I had to re flash acs then restore data. So use titanium to restore apps.
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Restore appdata after flashing ROMs

I've been flashing ROMs for a while. Tried many different kernels of coarse that are compatible with the ROM, and as far as I know I've been doing it the way it should be done. However, one thing I haven't tried is restoring the progress/saves/data of my apps. I gave it some thought and figured this should be possible and I just haven't looked into it. I hope it is, I am now 3weeks into the same ROM and I want to update already but I don't want to loose my progress. If it is possible could someone help me or point me in a direction where I can get help. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
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If your switching roms completely I would recommend titanium backup. With that you can backup apps and app data. If you are simply upgrading the same rom, just wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then flash. All your apps and data stay. Just the updatetd files are plugged into the rom.
As far as your suggested method, I have no idea. Never really tried or looked into anything else. I guess it never really was necessary.
^ I may be making this more complicated then it already is but if I were to switch to titanium backup would i have to switch to AmonRA recovery since I already have clockworkmod recovery with ROMmanager? Also If I may want to try a different ROM other than the update, is there another route besides titanium backup (assuming I would have to switch to amonRA). I ask this because I've looked through the SD folders and found a folder called Android that had some apps in it, I'm wondering if there is a folder such as this I can copy and restore if I were to Switch ROMs?
titanium backup is just an app. it has nothing to do with recovery, so no, you dont have to switch recoveries
Mybackup root is also another free alternative app.
Titanium Backup saves all the app/data information onto your SD card, that way when you flash another rom you have to download the app again and you could reinstall just the app, or app with user data.
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Titanium Backup is a lifesaver. Before I flash a new ROM, I make sure my app backups are straight, then after flashing the ROM, all I have to do is go to the Market, redownload Titanium Backup, then restore all my apps. It allows me to change ROMs in an afternoon and be using my phone that night like any night before. Buy the full version, because you need it to restore apps in one big batch operation.
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Titanium Backup is a lifesaver. Before I flash a new ROM, I make sure my app backups are straight, then after flashing the ROM, all I have to do is go to the Market, redownload Titanium Backup, then restore all my apps. It allows me to change ROMs in an afternoon and be using my phone that night like any night before. Buy the full version, because you need it to restore apps in one big batch operation.
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You can do batch restore with the free version also
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After Flashing ROM Then What?

If this is in the wrong section I apologize.
I have rooted using Revolutionary and after flashing Superuser I installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup (along with some other programs that work only in root). I wish to flash a new ROM and get away from stock. I am thinking CyanogenMod 7 ROM or gingerbread-evo-deck ROM (it has 4G).
I want to keep things simple so I will be using ROM Manager. I will make a backup with ROM Manager and will backup my apps using Titanium.
I will be flashing from within ROM Manager as it automatically does the "factory reset" and other things that I would otherwise need to do manually.
Once ROM is installed am I correct in that I need to re-download Titanium and then make a restore which should give me ROM Manager back?
Is there anything I am missing?
Thanks for any contribution you can give.
DocEsq
Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.
Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.
HipKat said:
Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.
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ROM manager = Problems
Amon Ra = EVO Love lol.
Plus its kinda cool going into recovery and flashing on ur own. It's much easier than it sounds.
Just remember NANDROID is your friend! Lol. And NEVER pull ur battery while updating ur radio and Wimax.
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Northbeach said:
Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.
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lol.. my link has 3 times you make nandroids in it

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