If this is in the wrong section I apologize.
I have rooted using Revolutionary and after flashing Superuser I installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup (along with some other programs that work only in root). I wish to flash a new ROM and get away from stock. I am thinking CyanogenMod 7 ROM or gingerbread-evo-deck ROM (it has 4G).
I want to keep things simple so I will be using ROM Manager. I will make a backup with ROM Manager and will backup my apps using Titanium.
I will be flashing from within ROM Manager as it automatically does the "factory reset" and other things that I would otherwise need to do manually.
Once ROM is installed am I correct in that I need to re-download Titanium and then make a restore which should give me ROM Manager back?
Is there anything I am missing?
Thanks for any contribution you can give.
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Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.
Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.
HipKat said:
Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.
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+1
ROM manager = Problems
Amon Ra = EVO Love lol.
Plus its kinda cool going into recovery and flashing on ur own. It's much easier than it sounds.
Just remember NANDROID is your friend! Lol. And NEVER pull ur battery while updating ur radio and Wimax.
Sent from my Super Sexy Classic EVO
Northbeach said:
Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.
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lol.. my link has 3 times you make nandroids in it
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Hey! I'm a little new to the rooting and such on a
Android phone but yesterday I rooted and
installed Fresh Rom 1.1 on my Sprint Hero, and I
was wondering where is a good website to
download themes for this Rom? And if there is
any tips/cool things/ ect. ect. that you can do
with a rooted phone tell me please. Cause I'm a
noob as I said. . Thanks
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best advice I can give is read the how to WIKI's BEFORE doing anything else. ALWAYS read the first post of any rom that you want to try then re-read it just to make sure you understand if there are any problems and or fixes. also ALWAYS make a nandroid BEFORE you change anything with your phone. after all that just watch the boards and check out all the cool stuff.
edit: and I forgot the search button is in the upper right of the screen and will save you a lot of grief from the flamers
Thanks dood.
I just rooted mine, too and all I can say is read read read read. Try different things you're cmfortable with, and just enjoy how much better it is rooted.
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
Kcarpenter said:
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
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Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
schnoz said:
Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
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Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
I'd say that you should make a backup copy every time you change anything significant, or anything you do while booting in recovery.
Its probably not necessary to do it as often as I do, but I figure a few extra minutes of waiting for it to finish is worth not having the frustration of not being able to revert to a past state if something screwy happens.
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Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
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I used the 'static wiki page how-to' for getting everything done, I think they supplied a link to this one: recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img, which I guess is outdated... I'll look for the 1.6.2 version instead. You are correct, my first nandroid is the stock + root and I did save this to my computer, but I haven't nandroided since then because I didn't think I needed to. I think I will nandroid again now that I am on 2.1 ROM and then nandroid whenever I mess around with the recovery / new ROMS. Thanks guys.
For the 1.6.2, do I just repeat the sticky how-to for installing this recovery? I don't want to mess anything up since I already have the 1.5.2 recovery installed. Will it just overwrite?
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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Well it is possible to go back in Rom manager and rename the backups to something else.
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Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
jentzschman2000 said:
Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
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There has been a lot of issues with rom manager making bad backups and bad flashes particularly when using recovery version 3.0.0.x. Flashing and doing nandroids from within recovery has proven to be more stable.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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They were both made by the same person and do the same thing with exception of naming the backup. Problem is that Rom Manager is not compatible the recovery we have to use yet.
edit: Finaly on the PC and not on the app. In the time it took me to type the answer and take the dogs out there were 2 more posts.
Anyways, to explain just a little more.
Rom manager just hasnt been updated yet for 3.x recoverys yet. Only 4 or 5 phones even require a different recovery in order to flash CM7 so there is no point for him to update it yet. Our phone just happens to be one of them.
Pros of recovery
More access to different types of wipes
can mount system to push files to system via Adb
Ability to reformat
Can do advanced restore of backups
Can read what your flash is doing and if it was succesfull.
Cons
Cant rename backup from there
Have to reboot manually and scroll with trackball rather than 1 click.
Pros of Rom Manager
Eay one click back up that you can rename
Phone reboots by itself after flash.
Cons
See all the pros for recovery.
If your flash errors for some reason you dont get to see why or where it happened.
With that being said. I totaly recomend Rom Manager because I love it but unfortunatly its not compatable for nandroiding with 3.x recoveries.
Now you might be able to flash mods that are in zip form through Rom Manager. Not sure on that one but I can check for ya if you want,
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
durrett syndrome said:
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
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In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
Backup your apps with Titanium backup.
I suggest doing both rom manager and titanium backup
Just in case.
If you go to a differemt rom you could restore all apps in clockwork by going into advanced restore under cwm and choosing to restore only /data however with some roms that's not recommended and could cause issues. If you restore the whole backup through cwm then it would overwrite whatever rom you have loaded.
With titanium backup you can backup just individual applications and restore their data or data and the app itself so as someone else said above that's your best bet.
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futureprospect said:
In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
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Backing up with rom manager is literally backing up with clockwork mod. ROM manager just reboots the phone into cwm and makes the backup there. Clockwork mod backups have always worked for me.
When I tried to use ROM Manager it wouldn't work properly. Someone a while ago complained that booting into cwm with the app causes errors. I wouldn't rely on the app at all if I were you.
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Manually boot into cwm and backup, the app doesnt work properly. I tried backing up a rom and it said it was backed up after 10 seconds. The rom file was 3 mbs...the backup should be near 100, if not more.
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Gotta add my cold water here. ROM manager has been less than useless for me, screwing up things every time I've tried it.
Stick to backing up the entire system from CWM, and a full backup via Titanium to have access to individual apps as needed. This has always worked for me, and many others here.
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So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
durrett syndrome said:
So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
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Technically, yes, but it is not recommended. Restoring data when moving between roms is usually when errors start happening. Also Rom manager does not work with the epic so there is probably no data in the file it created. You would have to boot into clockwork mod and backup from there.or use titanium backup and then restore just the apps when you switch roms.
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Just my 2 cents...everyone here keeps saying to use Titanium, give Mybackup Root a try. Its free and has a good UI. Titanium seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Other than that, the other posts here are correct, it doesnt matter what ROM you are running when you make or restore a backup, apps and their data will transfer and restore just fine, BUT like stated by others, system data does not always play well between ROMs and in my opinion you are better off not trying to restore that when you switch between ROMs...has given me more than one headache.
+1 on MyBackup Root. I find it to be more user friendly and just as effective as Titanium as well. I make a backup of everything (apks,data,photos,system settings, etc) at 4am everyday while I'm asleep. I plan on sticking with ACS so this is just a security net since they still do not use journaling. However if I want to try a different rom I can always choose to restore only the apks from the backup file.
The epic has not gotten rom manager support yet so it doesn't work and cwm can fail if you are switching between cm7 and acs cwm will give you a md5 mismatch so I had to re flash acs then restore data. So use titanium to restore apps.
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Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
Exactly what i was looking for, thanks! :]
Thanks! I was looking for this as well, in the process of creating a complete backup with amon ra. Was kinda wondering what I should flash tho, sense bores me
I've had them all, and I'm locked in MIUI now
So you're saying backup the following?
Boot
System
Data
Recovery
Wimax
Sd-ext
.andriod-secure
that's everything but cache - why not cache?
Also, what's a good rom if Battery life is most important... one that undervolts?
Cache is just temp files. You don't need them, but everything else, yes.
You only need boot data system and Wimax. I reccomend using a format all zip between rom flashes.
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What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
gab2012 said:
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
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This thread isn't the place for help rooting. Plenty of others, or post in Q&A.
Key thing is to backup, at least, your WIMAX. It's almost impossible to lose your WIMAX partition anymore, but better be safe than sorry.
You could nandroid everything.. but it's kind of pointless. There are RUUs out to flash back to stock, and zips you can flash too. Mainly just ease of use since the nandroid will already be on your SDcard.
Also as hipkat says, do yourself a favor and don't use ROM Manager. Don't use CWM recovery either (well, it's up to you but it's pretty old now). Amon_RA is the mature stable recovery, and the TeamWin recovery is the new kid on the block... functional but not as robust yet.
Sorry about that lad, and yeah I will backup everything if I can get the damn thing to work
It looks like quite a few people are having issues. Just hang tight and see if there is a fix.
Also check the guide over in the development section to make sure you got the step %100.
Well, I just got it!, uninstalled HTC sync and drivers, reinstalled the HTC drivers and ran the .exe zerging root passed!
Said no to Clockwork and installed Amon RA from fastboot, then flashed SU and now I'm ready to backup
dsotm82 said:
What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
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I use SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu from the market. Haven't had any problems so far.
HipKat said:
Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
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+1 - I would recommend getting Root Explorer and flashing a kernel to help extend the battery. You may also look into WIFI Tether
Thanks for this defiantly useful...time to start flashing
Thanks for the reminder, I am new to rooting this phone. (Not new to rooting, had HTC phones from G1 and MT3G, in those I am GTG.) Installed CM7 latest one. But I am interested in MIUI ones and the videos looks awesome!!!
MIUI has come a long way form when I tried it a few months ago...
Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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NP! That's why I'm here!
Im sure this question has been answered somewhere but i can't seem to find it. I was wondering if some one could give me detailed instructions on how to flash roms on my DROID x. Im running android 2.3.3 and system version 4.5.605. I have rom manager with cwm recovery flashed and paid for the d2bootstrap app.i also rooted with petes one click moto root. Im just having extremely difficult time figuring out how to flash roms. Id appreciate any help?
First things First.
You said you have CWM flashed.
Good.
Make sure you have 2-3 gigabytes of free space on your SD card.
Boot into that via Rom Manager and make a "nandroid backup" as you'll hear them called.
[Simply labeled Backup]
Now Select Reboot.
Open Contacts>Settings>Export To SD (or something similar).
Install This
https://market.android.com/details?id=jp.eguchi.android.bookmarkbackup&feature=search_result
And backup your browser bookmarks.
Next install this.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en
(The Pro Key makes this process...faster...but not any different.)
Open it up and Options>Batch>Backup all User Applications
Now...Find the ROM you'd like to try.
http://rootzwiki.com/forum/16-droid-x-developer-forum/
I'd Suggest Liberty 3 if you're wanting a semi-stock experience with good battery life and decent customization.
MIUI if you want a SUPER pretty experience...with superb customization.
Or
CM7 if you want Great customization + AOSP (How Android feels STOCK).
*Use RevNumbers pinned in the CyanogenMod Forum for CM7
The download you find will be a .zip.
Put this on your SD card...
And boot into CWM.
I always do a factory Reset Here.
And then...
Navigate to Install Zip From SD...
Find it...
Install it.
Congratulations!
You're now running a Custom ROM!
You can now import your contacts...
Sign into your google account and reinstall Titanium and that Browser Backup app...
And use Titanium Backup to restore your Applications (Most people Say NOT to restore Data with this, as it may cause Force Closes...however...if you do...You can always Factory Reset from CWM and Reinstall the Zip if you have problems. Data = Saves for your Games...how Facebook Remembers your Password...stuff like that.)
And that other application should restore your browser bookmarks.
If any of this process leaves you with a broken phone...
And you somehow messed up...
Or would simply like to return to where you were...
You can use CWM's "Restore" option to restore your backup...
Or if you can't boot into CWM...
You'll SBF
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/331-guide-flashing-droid-x-sbf/
Re-root...
And restore.
man i really appreciate you taking time to explan all that to me. it worked FLAWLESSY!! im finally rooted and flashing custom roms with no problems thanks to your answer. so thanks man
No problem at all man.
The hardest part of flashing your first rom is finding out how to do so.
I wish there was a simple guide out there stickied in every forum, as I know I could have used one...would have saved me a couple sbfs...and I'm sure I'm not alone on that.