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Ack! Rom Manager killed my root!

I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......

Soundchasr said:
I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......
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Please try this in order
1st. You can run a restore if you have clockwork recovery
2nd. Use alternative SU if you just need to restore file
3rd. Worst come to worst, backup your data and install ROTO rom / Clock Work Rom..

Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?

Soundchasr said:
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?
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That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.

btyork said:
That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.
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Ok, I'm running Verizon CDMA.

I coudn't root with z4root(it kept crashing), but oneclickroot (free on the market) worked like a charm.
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I reinstalled ROM manager but there's no way to "undo" whatever the heck I did.
Is there a way to go back to stock?
I'm not sure why but the whole system is really slow now...

I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?

Soundchasr said:
I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?
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You will need the original firmware + modem file etc and flashed it via heimdal and odin but that may be is last alternative you want to consider.
I am not sure if the default stock is able to reset, i have never try before but it should be able to.
Try this:
1. Switch off your tab
2. Open up your tab by pressing power and sound up
3. you should be able to see the recovery (i am not sure about this part for default stock)
4. there should be an option to do a factory reset (Make sure your current stock is default ROM)
Hope it helps.

Ok, I did what you said. Here's what I see:
Android System Recovery <3a>
Samsung Recovery Utils
- for BML -
reboot system now
apply sdcard: update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
I'm not sure what to do now. I don't really want to erase all my data......
I'd gladly install a new ROM instead of going to stock. I'm just in a limbo state now (clockworkmod, no root and really slow system) and I'm not confident that I know enough to do the flash).
Where are the instructions for stupid people?

[Q] Do I have to format stuff before installing cm7 (update- solved, thanks!)

I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!

htcg2 said:
I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!
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your friend has the right idea. one thing I would add (prior to formatting anything) is making a nandroid backup of your stock setup.
also, don't rely on rom manager to perform any CWM recovery functions properly. anything that will be done via recovery (ie flashing a rom, making a backup, etc) should be done straight through recovery and not through rom manager. ymmv there, but better to be safe than sorry.

Thanks for the quick and detailed post. I already made a nandroid backup, and saved it on both my laptop and my phone, but I forgot to mention it in the post. I will go ahead and flash the rom diretly from clockwork recovery. Thanks a lot for the advice!
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Oh no...
I installed cm7, and it looks good, but it looks like I don't have the android market anymore! What should I do?

You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps

ostinq said:
You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps
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Thanks! It works perfectly now! You're the best!

Rom manager or recovery?

Should I use rom manager or recovery to restore a backup, which is easier
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I prefer Recovery. Used it many times, and no issues. I don't think anyone is more difficult though, both are equally easy.

If I'm not mistaken, it is said that you best restore a backup with the recovery version you have taken it with.
This is a thing you should think about only when ROM Manager uses a different version of the Recovery than the one that is really your recovery.
So if they are different, I think you should use the one you have taken the backup with.
(correct me if I'm wrong!)
Erwin

After Flashing ROM Then What?

If this is in the wrong section I apologize.
I have rooted using Revolutionary and after flashing Superuser I installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup (along with some other programs that work only in root). I wish to flash a new ROM and get away from stock. I am thinking CyanogenMod 7 ROM or gingerbread-evo-deck ROM (it has 4G).
I want to keep things simple so I will be using ROM Manager. I will make a backup with ROM Manager and will backup my apps using Titanium.
I will be flashing from within ROM Manager as it automatically does the "factory reset" and other things that I would otherwise need to do manually.
Once ROM is installed am I correct in that I need to re-download Titanium and then make a restore which should give me ROM Manager back?
Is there anything I am missing?
Thanks for any contribution you can give.
DocEsq

Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.

Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.

HipKat said:
Ok, let me help you out here.
1, don't use ROM Manager. It has been shown to cause problems.
The first thing you want to do is get Amon Ra for your recovery. You'll find the thread in the Development section.
There's a link in my signature that gives a great walk through on flashing ROMS. I made it for MIUI, but you can use it for any ROM.
TB is great. just make sure you only backup and restore YOUR apps, not the system apps, HTC apps, System apps. They should be the ones that are in white.
Hope this gets you started.
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ROM manager = Problems
Amon Ra = EVO Love lol.
Plus its kinda cool going into recovery and flashing on ur own. It's much easier than it sounds.
Just remember NANDROID is your friend! Lol. And NEVER pull ur battery while updating ur radio and Wimax.
Sent from my Super Sexy Classic EVO

Northbeach said:
Don't forget to make a Nandroid backup! It's the ultimate safety net.
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lol.. my link has 3 times you make nandroids in it

[GUIDE] A Complete Noob's Guide to Rooting and Flashing Custom ROM's on the SGS3

A guy I know asked if I could let him know how to Root and Flash ROM's, so I did him a guide. It turned out to be a pretty comprehensive guide and I guessed others might find this useful too?
DISCLAIMER!!!!! This WILL void your warranty, so take that on-board, although you can de-root the phones and put them back to their shipped state theoretically. If your phone ends up a pretty brick, and Samsung aren't interested, that ISN'T my fault. THIS IS ENTIRELY AT YOUR OWN RISK! THIS GUIDE SHOULD BE ACCURATE, I HAVE READ IT OVER AND OVER, BUT READ THE COMMENTS BELOW TO CHECK FIRST. IT'S YOUR PHONE!!!!
First Some Handy App's:
ROM Manager has Custom ROM's that are popular and it can advise when new versions become available. It's a more automated way of flashing ROMs and good for new flashers! : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager&hl=en
Nova Launcher is an improved version of the Stock Jellybean launcher and allows you to backup your home screens, therefore you don't have to start from scratch everytime you flash a new ROM: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
Titanium Backup is a pretty (not entirely) essential app that backs up all your apps, and the data associated with them, i.e passwords, game save files, username. Basically the app will be frozen as it is when you leave it. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en
ES File Explorer is a File Manager which also has the options in settings to allow it root access to the system files on your phone. This is handy as you will no doubt understand the more you use it. It can also display the MD5 of a ZIP file that you download. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en This will backup your text and picture messages to your SD Card. Handy!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.CallLogBackupRestore&hl=en This will backup your Call Logs....if you are bothered.
Now down to the Nuts and Bolts! Let's Get Rooting and Flashing!
1) Root and Recovery Install:
You root your device following the instructions in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488 post. This gives you Superuser access to your phone and allows you to change the boot options of your phone. This will install Clockworkmod Recovery. Clockworkmod Recovery replaces the in-built recovery that the OEM installs and allows you more flexibility to alter your phone. If you struggle to get into Recovery, then there is a key-press combination that does it when you switch on your phone and there is also an app in the Play Market called "Reboot to Recovery" that will allow you to do it, but you need to understand how to get into Recovery from a cold start just in case you have issues. Most custom ROM's will have it on the shutdown menu of the phone anyway, and once you install a custom ROM and install ROM Manager, then you can access it there anyway. It sounds a bit daunting, but its really simple once you understand how Clockworkmod, or any other custom Recovery works. READ CHAINFIRE'S THREAD PROPERLY BEFORE YOU START - THEN READ IT AGAIN!
2) Titanium Backup & Nandroid:
You will hear people refer to Titanium Back-up's and Nandroids. This is basically a full back-up of your ROM. A Nandroid backs up the exact state of your ROM so you can restore it back if you ever have problems or just don't like the ROM you have flashed. The first thing you have to do when you have rooted your phone is do a Nandroid. In Clockworkmod you will see in the menu's "Backup and Restore". Back it up, this will place it either on your internal SD or the external Micro SD Card (you can choose, it's faster on your internal SD but the file will be large. Over 1GB+ isn't unusual as this will back up all your apps and everything associated with them.) Nandroid, nandroid, nandroid. Do it all the time. You can always delete them in Clockoworkmod or through a file manager - if you don't need them later. Nandroid, DO A NANDROID! Then, reboot into your stock ROM and DO A TITANIUM BACKUP! You can also backup your SMS and Call Logs, too. Don't get over excited and forget. DO A NANDROID and DO A TITANIUM BACKUP! You get the picture!?
3) Custom ROM files and other flashable files:
ROM's, RIL's and Radio's are generally mostly .ZIP files (Google them all and work out what they do! - YES DO THIS - IT IS ESSENTIAL) and are flashed in Clockworkmod Recovery by using the menu item "Install Zip from..." Don't try to uncompress them yourself or it won't work and most files come with a MD5 checksum code. This will verify the .ZIP file is perfect and not corrupted. ALWAYS check your MD5 before you flash. ROM Manager will do this automatically, but if you download a ROM from XDA the author will usually supply the MD5. If you download the ROM ZIP to your phone, ES File Explorer has a function to display the MD5. USE IT!
4) ROM Manager and Titanium Backup:
The two best apps for Android (in my opinion anyway), and you do NEED to buy them really, not essential, but they make your life much easier. ROM Manager has the most popular ROM's and will notify you about updates. The most popular and probably the best custom (or usually the most stable) ROMs are by Cyanogenmod (Google it) and CM9 is their Google Android AOSP (Android Open Source Project - Again Google it and understand it) based on Ice Cream Sandwich and CM10 is still in development, but is their new ROM based on Jellybean. Keep your titanium back ups up to date BEFORE you flash a new ROM then you can put the apps back on in the exact state you left them on the old ROM.
5) Kernels, Radios and RILs (Radio Interface Layer) and Firmware:
These can be flashed in Clockworkmod generally, are sometimes essential, and can improve the performance of you device, but be careful, flashing these can brick your device if it goes wrong or the download is corrupt in some way. Check the MD5 religiously and make sure your battery is full so your phone doesn't switch off mid way through. Kernels are usually OK, but firmware still scares me now. ALWAYS check that what ever you are flashing is for the INTERNATIONAL or UK SGS3 if that is the phone you are using. Do NOT flash another version, their hardware is different and it will brick your phone.....not sure....ask on XDA Developers, nobody will flame you for checking!
6) Gapps:
With most ROM's, you will need to flash the GAPPS.ZIP package to have it automatically restore your photos, contacts and wireless details. So don't forget to do this whenever you flash most custom ROMs. The Gapps ZIP contains important apps like the Google Maps, Play Store, Calendar, Contacts, Camera, Gallery (where you find the Picasa Pics from your PC), and will log your phone into Google, so it's pretty essential.
7) Some other tips.
A) Titanium! (I KNOW, BUT YOU WILL KICK YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T)
B) Nandroid! (I KNOW, BUT YOU WILL KICK YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T)
C) READ THE THREAD AND THE OP BEFORE YOU DOWNLOAD A ROM AND FLASH IT.
D) READ ABOUT THE BUGS IN THE ROM AND DECIDE IF YOU WANT IT.
E) DON'T ASK DEV'S FOR ETA'S - YOU WILL BE GROWLED AT. THEY DO ALL THIS FOR FREE!
F) PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T MOAN AT ME IF THIS BRICKS YOUR PHONE. THIS IS A GUIDE, IF ANYTHING IS INACCURATE THEN NO DOUBT SOMEONE WILL COMMENT BELOW, SO THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW TIP C! ABOVE!!!!
F) Always wipe your Cache and Dalvik Cache first, when you flash a new ROM.
G) Read the OP - Some phones need a full factory reset before you flash them. READ THE OP!!!!!
Good Luck. :good:

If you have time you should make it more detailed...i get what you say but some may want more info about what they're doing with their phone..
Any by the way!
It's called KERNEL!
Not KERNAL!
KERNAL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL
KERNEL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)

Moved to general, make sure you read the section rules for more information on where to place threads!

nfsmw_gr said:
If you have time you should make it more detailed...i get what you say but some may want more info about what they're doing with their phone..
Any by the way!
It's called KERNEL!
Not KERNAL!
KERNAL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL
KERNEL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)
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Ha Ha, I'll correct it. I always get them mixed up.
If one of the mods make it a sticky then I'll spend a lot of time making it more detailed, but if it's just going to get lost in the ether, then there's probably little point. I would personally have killed for a guide like this 4 years ago when I started rooting and flashing, but I agree, it could be even more comprehensive and I certainly don't mind putting in the leg-work if it's helping people?
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Comment .
One Rom Manager is known to give problems with some root if you read Chainfires thread .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Nandroid does not backup everything No Modem No EFS
With most ROM's, you will need to flash the GAPPS.ZIP >>> Not true for stock based roms .
jje

JJEgan said:
Comment .
One Rom Manager is known to give problems with some root if you read Chainfires thread .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Nandroid does not backup everything No Modem No EFS
With most ROM's, you will need to flash the GAPPS.ZIP >>> Not true for stock based roms .
jje
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Thanks, I'll let some of these corrections mount up then do a big edit.
You are of course correct, stock ROMs and ones like MIUI don't need Gapps.
Didn't realise ROM Manager was an issue after the recent stability fixes recently, but I'll amend that.
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ManCityFC said:
Thanks, I'll let some of these corrections mount up then do a big edit.
You are of course correct, stock ROMs and ones like MIUI don't need Gapps.
Didn't realise ROM Manager was an issue after the recent stability fixes recently, but I'll amend that.
And yes, good point about Nandroids.
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ManCityFC said:
Didn't realise ROM Manager was an issue after the recent stability fixes recently, but I'll amend that.
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Could be out of date with my comments . Its just long time SGS and Rom Manager problem posts .
jje

Can anyone else think of things that I could add to this guide?
I'm thinking of updating it with:
Terms that people ask about, (like the dreaded SOD)
Creating a section that explains about helping devs with positive feedback and how to generate a logcat.
General troubleshooting like clearing an app cache.
Need some inspiration though, what questions do we get asked over and over?
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