I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......
Soundchasr said:
I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......
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Please try this in order
1st. You can run a restore if you have clockwork recovery
2nd. Use alternative SU if you just need to restore file
3rd. Worst come to worst, backup your data and install ROTO rom / Clock Work Rom..
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?
Soundchasr said:
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?
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That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.
btyork said:
That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.
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Ok, I'm running Verizon CDMA.
I coudn't root with z4root(it kept crashing), but oneclickroot (free on the market) worked like a charm.
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I reinstalled ROM manager but there's no way to "undo" whatever the heck I did.
Is there a way to go back to stock?
I'm not sure why but the whole system is really slow now...
I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?
Soundchasr said:
I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?
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You will need the original firmware + modem file etc and flashed it via heimdal and odin but that may be is last alternative you want to consider.
I am not sure if the default stock is able to reset, i have never try before but it should be able to.
Try this:
1. Switch off your tab
2. Open up your tab by pressing power and sound up
3. you should be able to see the recovery (i am not sure about this part for default stock)
4. there should be an option to do a factory reset (Make sure your current stock is default ROM)
Hope it helps.
Ok, I did what you said. Here's what I see:
Android System Recovery <3a>
Samsung Recovery Utils
- for BML -
reboot system now
apply sdcard: update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
I'm not sure what to do now. I don't really want to erase all my data......
I'd gladly install a new ROM instead of going to stock. I'm just in a limbo state now (clockworkmod, no root and really slow system) and I'm not confident that I know enough to do the flash).
Where are the instructions for stupid people?
Related
If I flash a new rom using rom manager will the previous one be gone? I want no part of what I have right now if I go to another rom
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it will be gone as far as use but if you want to delete it you'll have to do so manually
Runnin nero+dow
Yeah what I mean is I'm running Axura right now and if I went to another rom I don't want that new rom being bugged and looking like auxura will that happen?
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Odin back to stock before flashing another rom that's the best way to make sure nothing is left over I always flash fresh from stock and I don't have any problems also if you have voodoo installed make sure you dissable it before anything else cause your going to have a headache trying to remedy that situation
Runnin nero+dow+oclf
odin is not necessary. all the roms for the vibrant wipe system and data, so flashing with clockwork is good enough.
however, undo lagfixes. some cause problems if not disabled, others don't.
Got it! Thanks
I am unable to flash a different rom over Axura??? i have no lag-fixs. When i go through rom manager, it just reboots the system still in axura? Im stumped and would appreciate any help.
lexic0n said:
I am unable to flash a different rom over Axura??? i have no lag-fixs. When i go through rom manager, it just reboots the system still in axura? Im stumped and would appreciate any help.
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You need to flash clockwork recovery from rom manager then do it and on the recovery mode if it doesn't do it auto click reinstall package
i will try that, thankyou very much; however my newest problem is that i cannot put the rom on my phone. when i try to copy from my computer and paste to phone, i get "Cannot copy BionixFinal_R1_Stock: The parameter is incorrect" wft is that!? lol
Umm when you do that do you mount your phone and if you have titanium backup when you go on your computer do you see that titanium backup is there as a folder?
if you put it where titanium backup folder isn't your putting it on te external part and then it wont work.
Besides that it might be your computers problem search that error in Google without the bonix part
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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Well it is possible to go back in Rom manager and rename the backups to something else.
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Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
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Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
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There has been a lot of issues with rom manager making bad backups and bad flashes particularly when using recovery version 3.0.0.x. Flashing and doing nandroids from within recovery has proven to be more stable.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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They were both made by the same person and do the same thing with exception of naming the backup. Problem is that Rom Manager is not compatible the recovery we have to use yet.
edit: Finaly on the PC and not on the app. In the time it took me to type the answer and take the dogs out there were 2 more posts.
Anyways, to explain just a little more.
Rom manager just hasnt been updated yet for 3.x recoverys yet. Only 4 or 5 phones even require a different recovery in order to flash CM7 so there is no point for him to update it yet. Our phone just happens to be one of them.
Pros of recovery
More access to different types of wipes
can mount system to push files to system via Adb
Ability to reformat
Can do advanced restore of backups
Can read what your flash is doing and if it was succesfull.
Cons
Cant rename backup from there
Have to reboot manually and scroll with trackball rather than 1 click.
Pros of Rom Manager
Eay one click back up that you can rename
Phone reboots by itself after flash.
Cons
See all the pros for recovery.
If your flash errors for some reason you dont get to see why or where it happened.
With that being said. I totaly recomend Rom Manager because I love it but unfortunatly its not compatable for nandroiding with 3.x recoveries.
Now you might be able to flash mods that are in zip form through Rom Manager. Not sure on that one but I can check for ya if you want,
I just got an Epic 4g, it has Froyo.EC05, Firmware 2.2.1, Kernel: 2.6.32.9, Hardware v.D700.0.5
I don't want to put a rom on my phone. I just want to have root access so I can uninstall some of the stock apps, I REALLY want the wifi hotspot and I need the ability to set it back to it's stock again easy enough. I have a pc with Win7 Ultimate 64-bit and the drivers already installed and running ok. I just need to know which root program is best for a simple setup like I want and gives me just the wifi hotspot and stock app remover.
Thanks.
~Z
Use One-Click-Root CWM 3.0.2.5 to root your phone.
Use Titanium backup from the market to uninstall the bloatware
Some bloatware cannot be uninstalled, search around and find out what can and cant be uninstalled.
Then you are done.
If you ever need to send your phone back to sprint, Use the program ODIN to return your phone to stock.
It's that simple, but not that simple. Watch the video. It'll make waaay more sense.
The Root said:
It's that simple, but not that simple. Watch the video. It'll make waaay more sense.
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Yep. Videos make it a breeze! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997
What program do I use to enable WiFi hotspot? Or is that part of the CWM root program?
zeoran said:
What program do I use to enable WiFi hotspot? Or is that part of the CWM root program?
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If I remeber right we only had a working hot spot on DI18, but now wifi tether is what to use...
Im getting tired of changing this...
so how do I get wifi tethering to work? I just want to be able to use my phone to give internet access to my notebook when a wifi spot isn't available, like I could with my at&t tilt 2...
zeoran said:
so how do I get wifi tethering to work? I just want to be able to use my phone to give internet access to my notebook when a wifi spot isn't available, like I could with my at&t tilt 2...
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Root your phone and download WiFi tether. They took it off the market, but I am sure it is posted on XDA.
Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?
zeoran said:
Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?
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ODIN
10 char
zeoran said:
Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?
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Just google Wifi Tether and grab version 3 pre 14
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Thx for the info on the tether, I'll try it. But if I wanted to un-root the phone and go back to how it was stock, how do I unroot it? Is the Odin thingy the only way to go back? I heard that Odin wipes everything out. Is there a simple way to undo the root CWM program w/out wiping out everything?
zeoran said:
Thx for the info on the tether, I'll try it. But if I wanted to un-root the phone and go back to how it was stock, how do I unroot it? Is the Odin thingy the only way to go back? I heard that Odin wipes everything out. Is there a simple way to undo the root CWM program w/out wiping out everything?
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In my signature, click the Stock Rom link, in the first post is a CWM flashable zip for the stock samsung recovery and the stock rom. You'd have to root, make a nandroid backup in cwm, then when you need to unroot, wipe data/cache 3x and flash the ReRFS rom, let that boot, then go back to cwm, restore the backup, then reboot. Go back to cwm and flash the samsung stock recovery. But, you'd only *need* to unroot if you have to take it back to sprint.
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Thanks xanderman, but I hate to sound like a noob, but I'm a windows/pc guy...I've had a windows phone since the early ipaq's, when the phone and the pim were separate devices... all i've had since then is Windows phones too, up to my Tilt 2, which I just traded in for my Epic 4G. So all this root/linux sounding Android stuff is VERY new to me and I have NO IDEA what you just said in your wonderful instructions up there about how to unroot my phone. I've noticed that a few apps don't seem to like the fact that my phone is rooted. And the only reason I did it was to have the ability to do Wifi Hotspot and for being able to have more apps installed on my sd card rather than the phone memory, although that was before I knew that Android phones have dedicated memory for apps, unlike Windows phones which shared memory between the app storage and app running. So if I had a ton of apps installed, the phone would crawl... same for too many txt msgs... but with the Android system, that's not a problem...
zeoran said:
Thanks xanderman, but I hate to sound like a noob, but I'm a windows/pc guy...I've had a windows phone since the early ipaq's, when the phone and the pim were separate devices... all i've had since then is Windows phones too, up to my Tilt 2, which I just traded in for my Epic 4G. So all this root/linux sounding Android stuff is VERY new to me and I have NO IDEA what you just said in your wonderful instructions up there about how to unroot my phone. I've noticed that a few apps don't seem to like the fact that my phone is rooted. And the only reason I did it was to have the ability to do Wifi Hotspot and for being able to have more apps installed on my sd card rather than the phone memory, although that was before I knew that Android phones have dedicated memory for apps, unlike Windows phones which shared memory between the app storage and app running. So if I had a ton of apps installed, the phone would crawl... same for too many txt msgs... but with the Android system, that's not a problem...
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If you can figure out the above, you might just need to odin to stock. Basically CWM(ClockworkMod) is a custom recovery mode that let's rooted users flash new roms/themes/etc to the phone. Basically, you hold Volume up/down, camera and power buttons, wipe data in clockworkmod 3 times, then choose the "install zip from /sdcard" option, find the stock rom I mentioned(the one in my signature) and install it. Then reboot, wait 5 minutes. Go back to ClockWorkMod, and then advanced restore the data section of your backup(always make a "nandroid" backup before flasing your first anything), install the Stock Samsung Recovery(the only reason for this step would be if you have to return it for whatever reason), and you'll have an unrooted epic 4g.
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You can always.use gingerbreak to root your phone. If your not worried about roms then u don't need a custom recovery. Using gingerbreak will just give u root and that is what u want.
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musclehead84 said:
You can always.use gingerbreak to root your phone. If your not worried about roms then u don't need a custom recovery. Using gingerbreak will just give u root and that is what u want.
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He's already rooted. Also, I tried gingerbreak, and it didn't work.
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Ummm...
So this is just my two cents here, but...everyone here is recommending the experimental version of wifi tether. Which I disagree with. Its easier to just go to the market and search "wireless tether".
"But squshy! Wireless tether doesn't do infrastructure mode! It only does ad hoc!"
I know. But ALL the OP wants to do is tether to his laptop. In which case, the market wireless tether will work perfectly. You don't even have to worry about using special steps to get it to tether 4g.
Plus, the experimental wifi tether is...buggy. I would think that a simple user such as yourself would rather have a stable reliable program over one that frequently reboots itself. (And ad hoc really isn't that bad guys. Its not like the guy wants to tether his xbox360 like everyone else here )
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zanderman112 said:
If you can figure out the above, you might just need to odin to stock. Basically CWM(ClockworkMod) is a custom recovery mode that let's rooted users flash new roms/themes/etc to the phone. Basically, you hold Volume up/down, camera and power buttons, wipe data in clockworkmod 3 times, then choose the "install zip from /sdcard" option, find the stock rom I mentioned(the one in my signature) and install it. Then reboot, wait 5 minutes. Go back to ClockWorkMod, and then advanced restore the data section of your backup(always make a "nandroid" backup before flasing your first anything), install the Stock Samsung Recovery(the only reason for this step would be if you have to return it for whatever reason), and you'll have an unrooted epic 4g.
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Ok, so I know how to get into the CWM. I get the wipe data 3 times, although I don't understand why you have to do it 3 times...I get the next step, although I don't know what it's installing from the sd card. Also, will running Odin wipe out all my data/apps? What's a "nandroid" backup? I used Titanium Backup to backup everything...but that won't work after I'm "unrooted", will it?
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Ok, so I know how to get into the CWM. I get the wipe data 3 times, although I don't understand why you have to do it 3 times...I get the next step, although I don't know what it's installing from the sd card. Also, will running Odin wipe out all my data/apps? What's a "nandroid" backup? I used Titanium Backup to backup everything...but that won't work after I'm "unrooted", will it?
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Idk about Titanium, but nandroid is the Backup/restore feature in cwm. When you install something from the sdcard, its a flashable zip. Like the stock rom in my signature, that's a flashable zip. And yes, odin wipes everything.
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I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!
htcg2 said:
I am currently using the stock rom on my rooted g2, and I want to get cm7. I got rom manager premium, and downloaded cm7. At this point one of my friends told me that I should boot into clockwork recovery, format every option except the sd card, and then I should install the rom from the zip on the sd card, using clockwork recovery. He said that this would remove all the old system files so that the new rom would install cleanly, and that if I dont do this I might have problems running the new rom. I thought that rom manager does this for you automatically, as long as you use the option "clear data and cache" before you install the new rom. According to my friend, that option in rom manager (to clear the data and cache before installing the new rom) doesn't remove all the necessary things. Is this true, or does rom manager take care of all of this for you?
This is my first time installing a new rom, so I wanna make sure I do it right.
I really appreciate the XDA forums in general, so I want to thank everyone for making XDA my go to place for anything having to do with my phone!
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your friend has the right idea. one thing I would add (prior to formatting anything) is making a nandroid backup of your stock setup.
also, don't rely on rom manager to perform any CWM recovery functions properly. anything that will be done via recovery (ie flashing a rom, making a backup, etc) should be done straight through recovery and not through rom manager. ymmv there, but better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks for the quick and detailed post. I already made a nandroid backup, and saved it on both my laptop and my phone, but I forgot to mention it in the post. I will go ahead and flash the rom diretly from clockwork recovery. Thanks a lot for the advice!
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Oh no...
I installed cm7, and it looks good, but it looks like I don't have the android market anymore! What should I do?
You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps
ostinq said:
You have to flash the Gapps to get the market etc.. download from the link and flash through recovery.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version#Google_Apps
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Thanks! It works perfectly now! You're the best!
Just got a GTab 2 7.0 a few days ago. A P3113, so only 8GB of storage, about half of which is the ROM and crap apps. I've rooted before (had a KF 1st gen when it came out), and just wondering about a few things with the GTab:
Right now, I don't mind the stock ROM so much. There are problem things that would be "nice to have", but right now, would like to generally stay as "stock" as possible. That being said, I'd still like to "de-crap" the ROM to free up some storage space, and I assume that might lead to it running a bit better, since so much seems to just pop-in while running other apps. So:
I know I need to root first, so my first question - how reliable is that? I'm on a Mac, but have access to a netbook running Win7, so could run Odin to "get things done". I'd hate to brick the thing, still having 51 weeks of warranty left. (I also understand that I might want to install something else to keep the flash count from showing it's been flashed).
Once root'ed, is it better to use one of the "de-crapped" ROMs floating around? And if so, which seems "best" (yeah, I know the moderators hate the "which is best" - I'm looking for stock - and STABLE)
Or, is it better to eliminate the apps myself? (Not sure if this is a wholesale "rm" to remove certain apps from a terminal app, using adb, or if they have some uninstallers embedded somewhere, or...) - so better to use one of the ROMs floating around?
Is the GTab 2 "stable", so even if you trash a ROM, you can still get into the ROM manager to restore a previously working, or stock, ROM?
I'll probably come up with a couple more questions, especially depending on the replies... TIA
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
aisais said:
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Thanks - I plan to use Clean Master. Allows me to be selective about what I remove/move, instead of getting a ROM from someone and they removed the ONE THING I really wanted.
Ok, got it rooted and CWM installed.
HOWEVER, when I boot into CWM, I DON'T see an option to backup my ROM (I've used TWRP before on my KF, so the menu is different).
What I've got on my screen in CWM:
Android system recover <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
That's it. Where's the option to do a ROM backup? Oh, used file P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip Had CWM and Root all in one. I do have GT-P3113_ClockworkMod-Recovery_6.0.1.0.tar as well. Should I just go through procedure again to flash this CWM? Will it still retain SU?
nandroid backup ok to use? Seems it's just a wrapper for a backup script...
Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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That's exactly what I did today, grabbed the stock image for a backup, rooted with Odin and CWM then flashed a CM based 4.3 ROM. Piece of cake.