[Q] How to choose which Root? Need Simple & Uninstallable - Epic 4G General

I just got an Epic 4g, it has Froyo.EC05, Firmware 2.2.1, Kernel: 2.6.32.9, Hardware v.D700.0.5
I don't want to put a rom on my phone. I just want to have root access so I can uninstall some of the stock apps, I REALLY want the wifi hotspot and I need the ability to set it back to it's stock again easy enough. I have a pc with Win7 Ultimate 64-bit and the drivers already installed and running ok. I just need to know which root program is best for a simple setup like I want and gives me just the wifi hotspot and stock app remover.
Thanks.
~Z

Use One-Click-Root CWM 3.0.2.5 to root your phone.
Use Titanium backup from the market to uninstall the bloatware
Some bloatware cannot be uninstalled, search around and find out what can and cant be uninstalled.
Then you are done.
If you ever need to send your phone back to sprint, Use the program ODIN to return your phone to stock.

It's that simple, but not that simple. Watch the video. It'll make waaay more sense.

The Root said:
It's that simple, but not that simple. Watch the video. It'll make waaay more sense.
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Yep. Videos make it a breeze! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997

What program do I use to enable WiFi hotspot? Or is that part of the CWM root program?

zeoran said:
What program do I use to enable WiFi hotspot? Or is that part of the CWM root program?
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If I remeber right we only had a working hot spot on DI18, but now wifi tether is what to use...
Im getting tired of changing this...

so how do I get wifi tethering to work? I just want to be able to use my phone to give internet access to my notebook when a wifi spot isn't available, like I could with my at&t tilt 2...

zeoran said:
so how do I get wifi tethering to work? I just want to be able to use my phone to give internet access to my notebook when a wifi spot isn't available, like I could with my at&t tilt 2...
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Root your phone and download WiFi tether. They took it off the market, but I am sure it is posted on XDA.

Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?

zeoran said:
Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?
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ODIN
10 char

zeoran said:
Just for knowing, if I want to remove the root CWM and set it back to the way it was stock, what do I do? What program do I run and will it wipe out all my installed apps/data? or will it just set the settings back to normal?
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Just google Wifi Tether and grab version 3 pre 14
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Thx for the info on the tether, I'll try it. But if I wanted to un-root the phone and go back to how it was stock, how do I unroot it? Is the Odin thingy the only way to go back? I heard that Odin wipes everything out. Is there a simple way to undo the root CWM program w/out wiping out everything?

zeoran said:
Thx for the info on the tether, I'll try it. But if I wanted to un-root the phone and go back to how it was stock, how do I unroot it? Is the Odin thingy the only way to go back? I heard that Odin wipes everything out. Is there a simple way to undo the root CWM program w/out wiping out everything?
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In my signature, click the Stock Rom link, in the first post is a CWM flashable zip for the stock samsung recovery and the stock rom. You'd have to root, make a nandroid backup in cwm, then when you need to unroot, wipe data/cache 3x and flash the ReRFS rom, let that boot, then go back to cwm, restore the backup, then reboot. Go back to cwm and flash the samsung stock recovery. But, you'd only *need* to unroot if you have to take it back to sprint.
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Thanks xanderman, but I hate to sound like a noob, but I'm a windows/pc guy...I've had a windows phone since the early ipaq's, when the phone and the pim were separate devices... all i've had since then is Windows phones too, up to my Tilt 2, which I just traded in for my Epic 4G. So all this root/linux sounding Android stuff is VERY new to me and I have NO IDEA what you just said in your wonderful instructions up there about how to unroot my phone. I've noticed that a few apps don't seem to like the fact that my phone is rooted. And the only reason I did it was to have the ability to do Wifi Hotspot and for being able to have more apps installed on my sd card rather than the phone memory, although that was before I knew that Android phones have dedicated memory for apps, unlike Windows phones which shared memory between the app storage and app running. So if I had a ton of apps installed, the phone would crawl... same for too many txt msgs... but with the Android system, that's not a problem...

zeoran said:
Thanks xanderman, but I hate to sound like a noob, but I'm a windows/pc guy...I've had a windows phone since the early ipaq's, when the phone and the pim were separate devices... all i've had since then is Windows phones too, up to my Tilt 2, which I just traded in for my Epic 4G. So all this root/linux sounding Android stuff is VERY new to me and I have NO IDEA what you just said in your wonderful instructions up there about how to unroot my phone. I've noticed that a few apps don't seem to like the fact that my phone is rooted. And the only reason I did it was to have the ability to do Wifi Hotspot and for being able to have more apps installed on my sd card rather than the phone memory, although that was before I knew that Android phones have dedicated memory for apps, unlike Windows phones which shared memory between the app storage and app running. So if I had a ton of apps installed, the phone would crawl... same for too many txt msgs... but with the Android system, that's not a problem...
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If you can figure out the above, you might just need to odin to stock. Basically CWM(ClockworkMod) is a custom recovery mode that let's rooted users flash new roms/themes/etc to the phone. Basically, you hold Volume up/down, camera and power buttons, wipe data in clockworkmod 3 times, then choose the "install zip from /sdcard" option, find the stock rom I mentioned(the one in my signature) and install it. Then reboot, wait 5 minutes. Go back to ClockWorkMod, and then advanced restore the data section of your backup(always make a "nandroid" backup before flasing your first anything), install the Stock Samsung Recovery(the only reason for this step would be if you have to return it for whatever reason), and you'll have an unrooted epic 4g.
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You can always.use gingerbreak to root your phone. If your not worried about roms then u don't need a custom recovery. Using gingerbreak will just give u root and that is what u want.
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musclehead84 said:
You can always.use gingerbreak to root your phone. If your not worried about roms then u don't need a custom recovery. Using gingerbreak will just give u root and that is what u want.
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He's already rooted. Also, I tried gingerbreak, and it didn't work.
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Ummm...
So this is just my two cents here, but...everyone here is recommending the experimental version of wifi tether. Which I disagree with. Its easier to just go to the market and search "wireless tether".
"But squshy! Wireless tether doesn't do infrastructure mode! It only does ad hoc!"
I know. But ALL the OP wants to do is tether to his laptop. In which case, the market wireless tether will work perfectly. You don't even have to worry about using special steps to get it to tether 4g.
Plus, the experimental wifi tether is...buggy. I would think that a simple user such as yourself would rather have a stable reliable program over one that frequently reboots itself. (And ad hoc really isn't that bad guys. Its not like the guy wants to tether his xbox360 like everyone else here )
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zanderman112 said:
If you can figure out the above, you might just need to odin to stock. Basically CWM(ClockworkMod) is a custom recovery mode that let's rooted users flash new roms/themes/etc to the phone. Basically, you hold Volume up/down, camera and power buttons, wipe data in clockworkmod 3 times, then choose the "install zip from /sdcard" option, find the stock rom I mentioned(the one in my signature) and install it. Then reboot, wait 5 minutes. Go back to ClockWorkMod, and then advanced restore the data section of your backup(always make a "nandroid" backup before flasing your first anything), install the Stock Samsung Recovery(the only reason for this step would be if you have to return it for whatever reason), and you'll have an unrooted epic 4g.
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Ok, so I know how to get into the CWM. I get the wipe data 3 times, although I don't understand why you have to do it 3 times...I get the next step, although I don't know what it's installing from the sd card. Also, will running Odin wipe out all my data/apps? What's a "nandroid" backup? I used Titanium Backup to backup everything...but that won't work after I'm "unrooted", will it?

zeoran said:
Ok, so I know how to get into the CWM. I get the wipe data 3 times, although I don't understand why you have to do it 3 times...I get the next step, although I don't know what it's installing from the sd card. Also, will running Odin wipe out all my data/apps? What's a "nandroid" backup? I used Titanium Backup to backup everything...but that won't work after I'm "unrooted", will it?
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Idk about Titanium, but nandroid is the Backup/restore feature in cwm. When you install something from the sdcard, its a flashable zip. Like the stock rom in my signature, that's a flashable zip. And yes, odin wipes everything.
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Bricked Vibrant, Assistance greatly appreciated

Hi all,
Sot of new to modding, think I screwed up and could use some help. Was doing this one click speed fix: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7587405&postcount=417
It didn't appear to work the first time, as I received a message and exited the application, however the symbol was still in the notification bar. Re-ran it, and it seemed to have worked, mostly, as the phone was blazing fast. Went immediately to run quadrant and check the benchmark, but it force closed every time it hit the i/o section. tried to go to market, foreclose every time. Figured it may need a reboot, powered off, and that's was all she wrote.
I can get into the battery charging screen and have been able to get to recovery, but nothing else. I haven't used adb or ODIN at all yet, but any assistance is greatly appreciated.
The phone was already rooted, and i have titanium back up and nandroid backups, but don't really know how to get to them.
If you did a nandroid backup, just go in recovery screen and restore backup. If not, flash back to stock rom.
well maybe i dont know what im talking about then. I guess I thought i did a nandroid.
When i go into recovery i get four options: reboot system now, reinstall packages, clear all user data, clear cache data.
none of them work
Did you install clock work recovery via Rom manager?
well it has turned on now. removed sim and memory card and hit reinstall packages. ive got the standard twlauncher running but, it repeatedly gives me force close notifications that android.process.media has stopped and i cannot access the menu
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Did you install clock work recovery via Rom manager?
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yes, i did. i remember doing that precisely as shown in your tips and tricks thread
alright, so i got it into download mode, gonna reflash everything to stock and see where i went wrong as outlined here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
Will update with results, but would be nice to figure out where i went wrong so as not to repeat the error.
If you can get into recovery just wipe and reflash eugenes vibrant4.zip.
Alright, back to stock. unrooted also? gonna mess some more and see if i can get my clockword recovery to restore everything.
okay, so my theory is that the lag fix i used installed an update.zip that overwrote the clockword mod one. Now im just trying to restore using titanium backup, but it is telling me that it doesnt have root access. i know im rooted, as i just did it and reinstalled rom manager and drocap. hmmmmm.....
Thats not all thats funny. i cant find the superuser app anywhere on here. also, i cannot install one from the market.
and im having issues with root explorer.
Civil Disobedient said:
okay, so my theory is that the lag fix i used installed an update.zip that overwrote the clockword mod one. Now im just trying to restore using titanium backup, but it is telling me that it doesnt have root access. i know im rooted, as i just did it and reinstalled rom manager and drocap. hmmmmm.....
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DAKIDD236 said:
If you can get into recovery just wipe and reflash eugenes vibrant4.zip.
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I would re-root and then follow the flash the ROM mentioned above. There is a thread in the DEV forum.
Civil Disobedient said:
okay, so my theory is that the lag fix i used installed an update.zip that overwrote the clockword mod one. Now im just trying to restore using titanium backup, but it is telling me that it doesnt have root access. i know im rooted, as i just did it and reinstalled rom manager and drocap. hmmmmm.....
Thats not all thats funny. i cant find the superuser app anywhere on here. also, i cannot install one from the market.
and im having issues with root explorer.
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You need to root again to get the superuser on your phone. As for the one click lag fix, I used to original method and it went pretty well. No problems so far. I also flashed Vibrant4 by Eugene before doing the lag fix. Hope it helps
same thing happened to me. I'm stuck on the galaxy S boot screen. i can get into the samsung recovery screen but not the clockwork recovery. I backed up my nandroid and Rom but don't know how to get into the menu to restore. I only have the update.zip for the lag fix on the internal sd so can't restore that way. Any ideas? Much appreciated.
kwbdc said:
same thing happened to me. I'm stuck on the galaxy S boot screen. i can get into the samsung recovery screen but not the clockwork recovery. I backed up my nandroid and Rom but don't know how to get into the menu to restore. I only have the update.zip for the lag fix on the internal sd so can't restore that way. Any ideas? Much appreciated.
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There may be other ways around it, but I restored fully to stock, then re-rooted. I'm back up and running no problem now. Had some issues with titanium backup but got around that and its batch restoring as i type.
Civil Disobedient said:
There may be other ways around it, but I restored fully to stock, then re-rooted. I'm back up and running no problem now. Had some issues with titanium backup but got around that and its batch restoring as i type.
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Would you mind saying how you did that?
I tried wiping and flashing the stock via renaming it update.zip, and I'm still getting FC city. Mostly media, but, calendar, everything. I'm going to post a link to this in that thread, since many, it seems, were left hanging in a boot loop.
Janis said:
Would you mind saying how you did that?
I tried wiping and flashing the stock via renaming it update.zip, and I'm still getting FC city. Mostly media, but, calendar, everything. I'm going to post a link to this in that thread, since many, it seems, were left hanging in a boot loop.
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Just follow what I did through the thread.
I did this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475 to get back to complete stock, then i had to root it twice. Once did the one click, then the good root here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7150299&postcount=1
back up and running. had to research about titanium backup to get it up and running. I want to do the lag fix still, but im nervous from before.
Your nervous? I really would like to do this but i'm scared (cuss)less.
I've read what needs to be done and think that I've figured it out.
(pretty new to droid)... but, have also read the horror stories here
about bricking your phone...which nowadays can happen to any
phone you have....don't get me started on the apple pie!
But, really when it gets a simple as installing an .APK I'll be happy.
Damitu said:
Your nervous? I really would like to do this but i'm scared .......
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The galaxy s seems pretty hard to brick. I'd say just go for the lag fix. Worse thing that happens is you have to take like 15min to download and use odin to reflash to stock. The lag fix seems pretty safe as long as you stay rooted
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Vibrant Recovery Mode HowTo
THIS GUIDE WORKED ON USA T-MOBILE SAMSUNG VIBRANT BUT MAY VERY WELL WORK ON ALL SAMSUNG GALAXYS PHONES
After reading many XDA-Developers Forum Posts to try and figure out how to get into the Recovery Mode / Download Mode without any success, I gave T-Mobile Support a call.
After the usual noop run-down, "did you take the battery out" questions, I simply asked them how to get the Samsung Vibrant into recovery mode.
Unline the many tutorials that claim to require the Up or Down button pressed, along with the Home button then the Power, the true process is as follows:
1. Press the Up and the Down button at the same time (yes both). I too thought that button was a Toggle which only did either Up or Down, but found that in fact it does do both.
2. At the same time, press the power button.
3. As soon as the Samsung / Vibrant logo comes up on the screen, release the power button.
4. Release the Up and Down buttons.
5. PRESTO

I just rooted my N1 for the first time

OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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kmiloco49 said:
Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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couple of questions about rooting.

To start of, i will be using superoneclick, since it seems to be fairly easy. Now saying that i use that, nothing from my phone will get swiped correct? Apps, data etc..
Now once i do that, i will still have the current os that my phone is running now before the root?
once its rooted will i be able to port whatever app i want over to my SD?
also can i rune themes with out a rom?
thank you in advanced.
1) Correct
2) Yes
3) If your app supports installing to SD you will yes
4) You can't run anything without a ROM
Source --> http://is.gd/yHp7vX
Just rooting wont give you much. I would recommend Rom Manager so you can flash a new recovery for backups and mods.
Most stock roms don't support themeing or a high level of customization. I don't even know if SetCpu will do anything on a stock rom.
Basically I root to install Rom Manager from the market to install clockwork recovery.
A custom recovery allows flashing updated stock apps, themes, custom roms, keyboards, etc.
I suggest a CM7 gingerbread rom and you'll be hooked.
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Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing?
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup.
Sorry for such the noob questions.
sotorious said:
Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing? Exactly the same thing.
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup. 'Nandroid' Backup is a snapshot image of your ROM as it is at the time. Make sure you do one before flashing a custom ROM so that you can easily return to stock if you ever wish to. Once on a custom ROM your apps will show in the Market under 'my apps' and should sync to your phone.
Sorry for such the noob questions.
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Better to be safe than sorry
also, keep in mind nandroid is part of amon recovery. its a common misconception its a app itself.

Ack! Rom Manager killed my root!

I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......
Soundchasr said:
I rooted with z4 a few months ago. Today I got the bright idea to install Rom Manager to play around with. I clicked clockworkmod recovery without really thinking (or knowing what it does). Now Titanium Backup doesn't work because it says I'm not rooted.
I uninstalled Rom Manager but that didn't help. I tried rerooting with z4 but it only crashes.
What did I do and how do I undo it?
HELP.......
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Please try this in order
1st. You can run a restore if you have clockwork recovery
2nd. Use alternative SU if you just need to restore file
3rd. Worst come to worst, backup your data and install ROTO rom / Clock Work Rom..
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?
Soundchasr said:
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.
1. So, if I reinstall Rom Manager I should be able to do a restore?
Is there a good ROM that works with Rom Manager that I could install that would give me back root and also a new ROM?
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That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.
btyork said:
That really depends on what version Tab you have.
Currently for GSM devices, Overcome seems to be the ROM of choice, and I do not believe Alter has it able to update via Rom Manager.
I can't speak for CDMA devices, I don't own one.
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Ok, I'm running Verizon CDMA.
I coudn't root with z4root(it kept crashing), but oneclickroot (free on the market) worked like a charm.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
I reinstalled ROM manager but there's no way to "undo" whatever the heck I did.
Is there a way to go back to stock?
I'm not sure why but the whole system is really slow now...
I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?
Soundchasr said:
I just want to get back to stock (before ROM Manager and Clockwork). How do I do this?
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You will need the original firmware + modem file etc and flashed it via heimdal and odin but that may be is last alternative you want to consider.
I am not sure if the default stock is able to reset, i have never try before but it should be able to.
Try this:
1. Switch off your tab
2. Open up your tab by pressing power and sound up
3. you should be able to see the recovery (i am not sure about this part for default stock)
4. there should be an option to do a factory reset (Make sure your current stock is default ROM)
Hope it helps.
Ok, I did what you said. Here's what I see:
Android System Recovery <3a>
Samsung Recovery Utils
- for BML -
reboot system now
apply sdcard: update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
I'm not sure what to do now. I don't really want to erase all my data......
I'd gladly install a new ROM instead of going to stock. I'm just in a limbo state now (clockworkmod, no root and really slow system) and I'm not confident that I know enough to do the flash).
Where are the instructions for stupid people?

How to back up Apps without root??

Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
aklyatne said:
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...

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