To start of, i will be using superoneclick, since it seems to be fairly easy. Now saying that i use that, nothing from my phone will get swiped correct? Apps, data etc..
Now once i do that, i will still have the current os that my phone is running now before the root?
once its rooted will i be able to port whatever app i want over to my SD?
also can i rune themes with out a rom?
thank you in advanced.
1) Correct
2) Yes
3) If your app supports installing to SD you will yes
4) You can't run anything without a ROM
Source --> http://is.gd/yHp7vX
Just rooting wont give you much. I would recommend Rom Manager so you can flash a new recovery for backups and mods.
Most stock roms don't support themeing or a high level of customization. I don't even know if SetCpu will do anything on a stock rom.
Basically I root to install Rom Manager from the market to install clockwork recovery.
A custom recovery allows flashing updated stock apps, themes, custom roms, keyboards, etc.
I suggest a CM7 gingerbread rom and you'll be hooked.
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Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing?
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup.
Sorry for such the noob questions.
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Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing? Exactly the same thing.
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup. 'Nandroid' Backup is a snapshot image of your ROM as it is at the time. Make sure you do one before flashing a custom ROM so that you can easily return to stock if you ever wish to. Once on a custom ROM your apps will show in the Market under 'my apps' and should sync to your phone.
Sorry for such the noob questions.
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Better to be safe than sorry
also, keep in mind nandroid is part of amon recovery. its a common misconception its a app itself.
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thanks for any help =) i just worked my way through the guide for rooting and nandroid backup.. i want to run a rom that will let me increase call volume (ear not speaker) and teather..
any help would be much appreciated!
also how do i know if root worked.. does the fact that i could run nandroid mean it did? i dont see any changes in the settings.
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also how do i know if root worked.. does the fact that i could run nandroid mean it did? i dont see any changes in the settings.
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If you can boot into the recovery image or make a Nand backup, then you are in fact rooted.
woooot... root =)
Go with Fresh ROM
OOTB rom would be best for non techies.
heres another thing... all the vids i saw doing the one click root end up with a sweet power user app.
I did the long cmd prompt way and i dont have that. how will i run apps that require root access?
most of the custom roms out there include Super User. I personaly run Fresh 1.1 and like it for a day to day rom since all the important stuff works and I just like the look of it.
yeah i just rooted my Appalachian Wireless hero and loaded up the fresh rom and everything ive used has worked, Im loving this over the stock hero.
I'm fairly new to Android and have just rooted my Milestone 2.
If I reset to factory settings, will this remove root functionality (from what I have read I don't believe it will, but just want to confirm)?
(Assuming the answer to the above question in 'No it won't remove root') How would I go about unrooting my device? The method I used was to copy the files required to my M2 and then run the commands in terminal on the device, are the a set of commands to reverse this procedure?
What precautions should I take before doing anything else with my phone? I have read people recommending installing Koush's BootStrapper, does this effectively create a 'Last Known Good Configuration'?
Then finally what software should I load to get the best out my rooted M2? I was looking at installing AdFree, Titanium Backup and Root Explorer to start...
Thanks is advance to responses to my questions
First off rooting your phone is basically just installing programs to your root app folder that allows programs to use anything they want on your device.
Where root gets installed is a place that is not affected by restoring your phone so no restoring will not remove root. Im not sure if z4root works with the m2 (I don't see why not), but its a free app on the market that can remove root for you.
Koush will let you backup up the current state of your phone (apps and all) so if you get a bootloop you can restore it which should only come in handy if you are installing custom roms but is still handy just to have.
Finally some root apps I recomend are: ad free, titanium backup, root explorer, droid overclock (another that MAY work on the m2 not sure), cache cleaner, that should be it I will edit if I remember any others.
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miketoasty said:
Im not sure if z4root works with the m2
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miketoasty said:
Koush will let you backup up the current state of your phone (apps and all) so if you get a bootloop you can restore it which should only come in handy if you are installing custom roms but is still handy just to have.
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Thanks, I've read about ClockworkMod, is this do something similar or is that just for custom ROMs?
badboy4life said:
Thanks, I've read about ClockworkMod, is this do something similar or is that just for custom ROMs?
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They are one in the same except koush's bootstrapped clockwork recovery is built to work with the D2/DX's locked bootloader.
newk8600 said:
They are one in the same except koush's bootstrapped clockwork recovery is built to work with the D2/DX's locked bootloader.
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If this was designed for the D2, would installing it on the M2 cause any major issues, I don't mind trying it, but is there a possibility that it could brick my device?
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If this was designed for the D2, would installing it on the M2 cause any major issues, I don't mind trying it, but is there a possibility that it could brick my device?
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there's always a possibility of a soft bricking or that it might not function correctly not being built specifically for the M2. I know there is an SBF for the Milstone 2 so I'd read up and have all of the files ready for the M2 before I would even attempt to do install the bootstrap. I mean there are no ROMs for the M2 as far as I know so it's not a big deal to try installing it right away but I know you want a backup so it's up to you to try but have the correct SBF ready in case something goes awry you can flash it and be back to stock. (always have your phone's charge pretty high when you start to flash stuff, nobody likes a phone dying during a flash process.)
OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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kmiloco49 said:
Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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Just got a GTab 2 7.0 a few days ago. A P3113, so only 8GB of storage, about half of which is the ROM and crap apps. I've rooted before (had a KF 1st gen when it came out), and just wondering about a few things with the GTab:
Right now, I don't mind the stock ROM so much. There are problem things that would be "nice to have", but right now, would like to generally stay as "stock" as possible. That being said, I'd still like to "de-crap" the ROM to free up some storage space, and I assume that might lead to it running a bit better, since so much seems to just pop-in while running other apps. So:
I know I need to root first, so my first question - how reliable is that? I'm on a Mac, but have access to a netbook running Win7, so could run Odin to "get things done". I'd hate to brick the thing, still having 51 weeks of warranty left. (I also understand that I might want to install something else to keep the flash count from showing it's been flashed).
Once root'ed, is it better to use one of the "de-crapped" ROMs floating around? And if so, which seems "best" (yeah, I know the moderators hate the "which is best" - I'm looking for stock - and STABLE)
Or, is it better to eliminate the apps myself? (Not sure if this is a wholesale "rm" to remove certain apps from a terminal app, using adb, or if they have some uninstallers embedded somewhere, or...) - so better to use one of the ROMs floating around?
Is the GTab 2 "stable", so even if you trash a ROM, you can still get into the ROM manager to restore a previously working, or stock, ROM?
I'll probably come up with a couple more questions, especially depending on the replies... TIA
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
aisais said:
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
aisais said:
Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Thanks - I plan to use Clean Master. Allows me to be selective about what I remove/move, instead of getting a ROM from someone and they removed the ONE THING I really wanted.
Ok, got it rooted and CWM installed.
HOWEVER, when I boot into CWM, I DON'T see an option to backup my ROM (I've used TWRP before on my KF, so the menu is different).
What I've got on my screen in CWM:
Android system recover <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
That's it. Where's the option to do a ROM backup? Oh, used file P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip Had CWM and Root all in one. I do have GT-P3113_ClockworkMod-Recovery_6.0.1.0.tar as well. Should I just go through procedure again to flash this CWM? Will it still retain SU?
nandroid backup ok to use? Seems it's just a wrapper for a backup script...
Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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That's exactly what I did today, grabbed the stock image for a backup, rooted with Odin and CWM then flashed a CM based 4.3 ROM. Piece of cake.
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...