Idiot noob nandroid backup question - Vibrant General

I'll just get it out of the way now. I know i am a total noob, idiot, moron. Oh, and I worship the feet of the XDA general forum. I'm a little confused with the whole nandroid, clockworkmod, and odin thing. I like to do minor mods ie root, lag fix and taking other apks from other phones like the nfl.apk from the fasinate. Now i have clockworkmod and have made a backup of my rom. Would that be considered the nandroid backup. I have already used it to restore my rom and it now works fine. Is odin a backup software used from my computer instead of inside my phone like clockwork,but uses the backup that i made fromclockwork. Im confused can i get some help please im an idiot.
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Rom Manager > Recovery > Nandroid
So yes if you've used Rom Manager and/or Recovery yes, you backed up aka made a Nandroid backup.
I just prefer to use Rom Manager because its an easy interface to get into Recovery and do other simple tasks. I however only really boot into Recovery to restore my Roms just because I'm a bit of a control freak like that. I like creating backups via Rom Manager because it will drop into Recovery, create the backup and then reboot all on its own.

Cool thanks for the response, it clears alot up.
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No problem.
After a while everything starts to make sense, but at first you just have to like I did read, read and read until you start to gleem things and it all starts to pull together.
Next thing you know your phone is so far beyond stock and you wonder what the heck did I do. LOL

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Tips for my newly rooted Sprint Hero phone?

Hey! I'm a little new to the rooting and such on a
Android phone but yesterday I rooted and
installed Fresh Rom 1.1 on my Sprint Hero, and I
was wondering where is a good website to
download themes for this Rom? And if there is
any tips/cool things/ ect. ect. that you can do
with a rooted phone tell me please. Cause I'm a
noob as I said. . Thanks
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best advice I can give is read the how to WIKI's BEFORE doing anything else. ALWAYS read the first post of any rom that you want to try then re-read it just to make sure you understand if there are any problems and or fixes. also ALWAYS make a nandroid BEFORE you change anything with your phone. after all that just watch the boards and check out all the cool stuff.
edit: and I forgot the search button is in the upper right of the screen and will save you a lot of grief from the flamers
Thanks dood.
I just rooted mine, too and all I can say is read read read read. Try different things you're cmfortable with, and just enjoy how much better it is rooted.
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
Kcarpenter said:
Nadroid...nandroid...nandroid
I am bad about messing with stuff and not having one. Shame on me.
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Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
schnoz said:
Do you nandroid after changing anything? I did it as soon as I got root last night, but now I have loaded a custom rom and am thinking about adding mods and themes... should I nandroid every time I put a new rom on or is the very first nandroid sufficient?
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Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
I'd say that you should make a backup copy every time you change anything significant, or anything you do while booting in recovery.
Its probably not necessary to do it as often as I do, but I figure a few extra minutes of waiting for it to finish is worth not having the frustration of not being able to revert to a past state if something screwy happens.
&RoidRage said:
Did you use fresh kitchen? I would make sure your recovery console is 1.6.2 as you can pick which nandroid you want to restore. Just nandroid before flashing a ROM or a Theme, so you can revert back to what you had before if something is not working.
The first nandroid you have should be the one with the stock ROM+root. I would take this and save it on your computer so you always have it.
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I used the 'static wiki page how-to' for getting everything done, I think they supplied a link to this one: recovery-RA-heroc-v1.5.2.img, which I guess is outdated... I'll look for the 1.6.2 version instead. You are correct, my first nandroid is the stock + root and I did save this to my computer, but I haven't nandroided since then because I didn't think I needed to. I think I will nandroid again now that I am on 2.1 ROM and then nandroid whenever I mess around with the recovery / new ROMS. Thanks guys.
For the 1.6.2, do I just repeat the sticky how-to for installing this recovery? I don't want to mess anything up since I already have the 1.5.2 recovery installed. Will it just overwrite?

Question, How To Flash Second Time Around???

Hello everyone,
I tried search the answer but only found something in a different phone section and it was not clear.
My question...I have already flashed with the Ice rom and it works fine...when I decide to change roms and flash a NEW one...what are the steps I must do for it to work correctly?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Brian K
If you're staying with the same rom (i.e. upgrading to a newer version of the same rom) - back up, wipe cache/dalvik cache, then flash
If you're changing rom but staying with Sense-based roms - do the same and see if you have any issues. If you do run into issues - wipe data/cache/dalvik cache, reboot.
If you're going from AOSP to Sense or Sense to AOSP - back up, wipe data/cache/dalvik cache, flash.
Its just do the same thing you did the first time. Make sure to do a full wipe and flash
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dnguyen1988 said:
Its just do the same thing you did the first time. Make sure to do a full wipe and flash
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Might be a lil off topic but I think it might be related.....you said 'do the same thing you did the first time'....so i'm guessing first time means the first time i flash a custom rom?? And if so, does that mean for the first time i flash a custom rom should i do a full wipe???
Thanks!
Paso876 said:
Might be a lil off topic but I think it might be related.....you said 'do the same thing you did the first time'....so i'm guessing first time means the first time i flash a custom rom?? And if so, does that mean for the first time i flash a custom rom should i do a full wipe???
Thanks!
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Yes you are correct. The post above mine is way more detailed. You should also do a nandroid backup of the rom you're on now in case you wanna go back.
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The best way to move between ROMs is to make a nandroid + Titanium backup. Fully wipe. Flash your new ROM. Carefully re-import settings from Titanium if all seems to be working well. In the event of a failure, roll back to your nandroid copy.
Im really sorry but I still dont understand...I mean I kinda do but dont want to mess up and because of that, I'm trying to have a clear pic in my head.
Example...when you flash for the first time you have to:
flash recovery
wipe data/cach/etc
drop the rom onto the sd card
select the rom from sd card
reboot phone
Do you have to do ALL the same steps again, if you want to try a NEW rom...or no?
If no...what steps do you do differently?
Also...as for the Nandroid backup...do you do this everytime also, or just once?
Again, Im really sorry to be such a newb...but I am trying...I have just about every guide...its just that most guide are not for newbs and alot of times they are outdate. Dont get me wrong I appreciate the guides...I TRULY Do, I just dont want to mess this phone up.
Thanks in advance for any help
Brian K
Repeat everything as you listed it except for flashing a new recovery (unless moving to/from a Froyo/Gingerbread; as recovery differs between Froyo and GB). I usually only make nandroid backups once I have found a ROM that I like and have it working well. It's a system restore! Then if I want to tinker with the "shiny new ROM" that just came out I can load it up and play with it. If it doesn't work well or at all, just roll back to your faithful fully working nandroid copy you made.
Kline said:
Repeat everything as you listed it except for flashing a new recovery (unless moving to/from a Froyo/Gingerbread; as recovery differs between Froyo and GB). I usually only make nandroid backups once I have found a ROM that I like and have it working well. It's a system restore! Then if I want to tinker with the "shiny new ROM" that just came out I can load it up and play with it. If it doesn't work well or at all, just roll back to your faithful fully working nandroid copy you made.
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Actually switching between Froyo and GB has been made even easier by the new ClockWorkMod Recovery... TrueBlue's method works amazingly... Find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944681... Flash it like you would a ROM via CWM... His zip also INCLUDES the STOCK RECOVERY so if you ever want to recalibrate the battery you can do so by going into Rom Manager and selecting 2.5.1.4 as your recovery, when done just switch back by selecting 3.0.0.5 and that will load up 3.0.0.6..
To answer OP's Question...
Step 1) NANDroid backup (Backup and Restore > Backup > press trackball)
Step 2) wipe data/cache/dalvik (I always do each of them twice for safe measures); Like someone here already said, if upgrading to a new version of THE SAME ROM BUT ITS BEEN UPDATED, just wipe CACHE AND DALVIK. Otherwise, wipe all 3.
Step 3) Install zip from sdcard > choose zip from sdcard > select the ROM you want to install.
P.S. FYI I WOULD DO THIS FIRST!!!!! For flashing TrueBlue's 3.0.0.6 to be able to flash both froyo and gingerbread roms without changing the recovery each time (which is a pain in the ass btw) FOLLOW STEP 3 EXACTLY. The only difference is you will choose GlacierRecovery_to_RomManager.zip instead of whatever Rom you want. Reboot, go into RomManager, scroll to the bottom and select All ClockWorkMod Recoveries, choose 3.0.0.5 and it should say successfully flashed. Reboot into recovery and make sure at the bottom it says CWM 3.0.0.6. If it does, congrats, if not, reboot and reflash it, and continue to do this until you see CWM 3.0.0.6 at the bottom of the recovery screen.
PM me if you can't get it to work and want some more help with anything!
Hello,
I want to say it again, that the people in the Android forums are so much more helpful then back when I had a iphone and needed help. The people over in the iphone forums would sometomes help, but most of all, they would be rude.
Android forum techs are the BEST!
As for the Nandroid backup...this part also is a bit confusing, cause a few guides/videos show them doing the nandroid after they do the 3 wipes. However, I thought it made sense to do it first like you said.
Last night at around 4am I flashed CM7 with no problem and it is truly amazing. I am started to make sense just a little bit of all this but right now...I still cant wrap my head around the whole flashing recovery process.
Please understand I.m not just asking for answers, I am also reading as much as possible...I am making an effort.
Thanks so much everyone,
Brian K
No problem. If you have any questions I'd be glad to answer them for you or direct you in the direction for your answer. Just pm me like I said.
Just continue to read read read.. That's why I did and this is the first phone I've rooted or done anything with and I've become knowledgeable with some of the easier concepts and I'm trying to learn more complicated concepts as I go along.. Everyone had to start somewhere, and most of us here on xda realize this which is why we are so happy to help as long as these questions aren't asked and answered 4000 times.
P.S. Where ever you read/watched to wipe before NANDroiding I would advise to not go back to that because that is COMPLETELY the wrong thing to do!!
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No prob Brian I know I wasn't as detailed as other ppl who helped but if you have any questions just pm me.
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I know I keep saying this but so far everyone here is sooo freakn helpful. Im shocked cause when I had a iphone and did the whole jailbreak thing...the people over there where very rude.
dont worry dnguyen1988...u were nice enough to help out and I promise to take you up on the offer for help
Amac1222...just to be clear...your saying to do a Nandroid backup before wiping ANYTHING...yes?
Thanks again for everything,
Brian
Yes, even when updating your rom, you can always move the nandroid off your sd to an external hd. Or you can delete them as you move up updates, (i.e. Build 41 to 42 to 43 delete 41 once you know 42 is good to backup to if needed). When I flash kernels I tend to not nandroid each time although I should. As a super noob I would and I used to until you are comfortable.
The basic thing is you always want something to fall back on in case you get stick in a boot loop or stuck on the mytouch screen.
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ROM Manager question

Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
durrett syndrome said:
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
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In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
Backup your apps with Titanium backup.
I suggest doing both rom manager and titanium backup
Just in case.
If you go to a differemt rom you could restore all apps in clockwork by going into advanced restore under cwm and choosing to restore only /data however with some roms that's not recommended and could cause issues. If you restore the whole backup through cwm then it would overwrite whatever rom you have loaded.
With titanium backup you can backup just individual applications and restore their data or data and the app itself so as someone else said above that's your best bet.
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futureprospect said:
In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
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Backing up with rom manager is literally backing up with clockwork mod. ROM manager just reboots the phone into cwm and makes the backup there. Clockwork mod backups have always worked for me.
When I tried to use ROM Manager it wouldn't work properly. Someone a while ago complained that booting into cwm with the app causes errors. I wouldn't rely on the app at all if I were you.
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Manually boot into cwm and backup, the app doesnt work properly. I tried backing up a rom and it said it was backed up after 10 seconds. The rom file was 3 mbs...the backup should be near 100, if not more.
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Gotta add my cold water here. ROM manager has been less than useless for me, screwing up things every time I've tried it.
Stick to backing up the entire system from CWM, and a full backup via Titanium to have access to individual apps as needed. This has always worked for me, and many others here.
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So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
durrett syndrome said:
So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
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Technically, yes, but it is not recommended. Restoring data when moving between roms is usually when errors start happening. Also Rom manager does not work with the epic so there is probably no data in the file it created. You would have to boot into clockwork mod and backup from there.or use titanium backup and then restore just the apps when you switch roms.
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Just my 2 cents...everyone here keeps saying to use Titanium, give Mybackup Root a try. Its free and has a good UI. Titanium seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Other than that, the other posts here are correct, it doesnt matter what ROM you are running when you make or restore a backup, apps and their data will transfer and restore just fine, BUT like stated by others, system data does not always play well between ROMs and in my opinion you are better off not trying to restore that when you switch between ROMs...has given me more than one headache.
+1 on MyBackup Root. I find it to be more user friendly and just as effective as Titanium as well. I make a backup of everything (apks,data,photos,system settings, etc) at 4am everyday while I'm asleep. I plan on sticking with ACS so this is just a security net since they still do not use journaling. However if I want to try a different rom I can always choose to restore only the apks from the backup file.
The epic has not gotten rom manager support yet so it doesn't work and cwm can fail if you are switching between cm7 and acs cwm will give you a md5 mismatch so I had to re flash acs then restore data. So use titanium to restore apps.
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For Those Just Getting Root!!

Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
Exactly what i was looking for, thanks! :]
Thanks! I was looking for this as well, in the process of creating a complete backup with amon ra. Was kinda wondering what I should flash tho, sense bores me
I've had them all, and I'm locked in MIUI now
So you're saying backup the following?
Boot
System
Data
Recovery
Wimax
Sd-ext
.andriod-secure
that's everything but cache - why not cache?
Also, what's a good rom if Battery life is most important... one that undervolts?
Cache is just temp files. You don't need them, but everything else, yes.
You only need boot data system and Wimax. I reccomend using a format all zip between rom flashes.
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What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
gab2012 said:
I entered my beta key and I'm stuck at zerging root....
its been around 5 minutes.
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This thread isn't the place for help rooting. Plenty of others, or post in Q&A.
Key thing is to backup, at least, your WIMAX. It's almost impossible to lose your WIMAX partition anymore, but better be safe than sorry.
You could nandroid everything.. but it's kind of pointless. There are RUUs out to flash back to stock, and zips you can flash too. Mainly just ease of use since the nandroid will already be on your SDcard.
Also as hipkat says, do yourself a favor and don't use ROM Manager. Don't use CWM recovery either (well, it's up to you but it's pretty old now). Amon_RA is the mature stable recovery, and the TeamWin recovery is the new kid on the block... functional but not as robust yet.
Sorry about that lad, and yeah I will backup everything if I can get the damn thing to work
It looks like quite a few people are having issues. Just hang tight and see if there is a fix.
Also check the guide over in the development section to make sure you got the step %100.
Well, I just got it!, uninstalled HTC sync and drivers, reinstalled the HTC drivers and ran the .exe zerging root passed!
Said no to Clockwork and installed Amon RA from fastboot, then flashed SU and now I'm ready to backup
dsotm82 said:
What do you recommend for backing up SMS?
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I use SMS Backup and Restore by Ritesh Sahu from the market. Haven't had any problems so far.
HipKat said:
Here's what you need to do!!
First, make a NANDROID BACKUP of your stock, rooted setup.
TRUST ME on this, you'll use it to do things like GPS fixes, PRL updates etc.
Use Amon Ra. DON'T use ROM Manger. Backup everything except Cache.
On that Nandroid you'll want Titanium Back Up, GPS Status and updated Maps installed.
For ROMS, if it were me, and I knew what I did now, I would start with the Sense ROMS, since you're used to that, just to see what a GOOD Sense ROM feels like.
Always wipe everything in Amon Ra, except the SD Card itself (Although people will argue with me that it's not necessary). Trust me on this, too, ok?? Just do a full wipe and erase any doubts when you have issues that it was wipe related.
Then, once you realize that Sense is boring, give CM 7 a shot, or better yet, MIUI!
AND READ READ READ READ READ as much as you can before you do dumb things.
And conratz!! It's about time!
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+1 - I would recommend getting Root Explorer and flashing a kernel to help extend the battery. You may also look into WIFI Tether
Thanks for this defiantly useful...time to start flashing
Thanks for the reminder, I am new to rooting this phone. (Not new to rooting, had HTC phones from G1 and MT3G, in those I am GTG.) Installed CM7 latest one. But I am interested in MIUI ones and the videos looks awesome!!!
MIUI has come a long way form when I tried it a few months ago...
Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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Sick. Thanks for the heads up. Also, I appreciate the To-Do List. This is my first venture into rooting, so as you can imagine, it all seems a bit overwhelming at first.
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NP! That's why I'm here!

Hellos

Looking forward to flash my first ROM today, I've read the stickies, wish me luch
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Good luck. Make sure to back everything up first.
androidmonk30 said:
Looking forward to flash my first ROM today, I've read the stickies, wish me luch
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read read read and read. get familiar with odin and make sure your phone is recognized ny odin. good luck once you start its addictive!!!!!
Yeah, i kind of have everything prepared, phone is rooted back up setup complete, i will just have to decide what ROM i want to go with. Not sure wich one yet, i know i want a decent battery life, fast, and GPS. I will look into more ROMs later today.
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Reboot into CWR (both volume buttons held in) while booting until you see “Vibrant'
Once there, go to Backup and run that. Should take about 5 minutes, maybe more.
If all hell breaks loose, this is a snapshot of your phone at that point... it's important to do this before flashing a new ROM!
I'm sure it's something stupid on my side BUT, all the options i have after booting in CWR are(blue): reboot system now, reinstall packages, delete all user data, delete cache data, format internal sd-card.
I decided NOT to touch any of those now since i cant find the Backup option on there, so i just rebooted my phone. Please guide me with a link or something. Thanks. I don't want to rush things.
androidmonk30 said:
Reboot into CWR (both volume buttons held in) while booting until you see “Vibrant'
Once there, go to Backup and run that. Should take about 5 minutes, maybe more.
If all hell breaks loose, this is a snapshot of your phone at that point... it's important to do this before flashing a new ROM!
I'm sure it's something stupid on my side BUT, all the options i have after booting in CWR are(blue): reboot system now, reinstall packages, delete all user data, delete cache data, format internal sd-card.
I decided NOT to touch any of those now since i cant find the Backup option on there, so i just rebooted my phone. Please guide me with a link or something. Thanks. I don't want to rush things.
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thats the cwm recovery, i dont think you backup from there.
you backup using the app, and nandroid I think.
also make sure to save the backup onto your computer also!
also, there is a special folder, i forget which folder it is. it must be backed up separately i think. It contains your phones imei and other information, without it your radio and phone will not make calls. back that up. I forget what its called. If you loose that, you lost it for good and your phone is junk
SamsungVibrant said:
thats the cwm recovery, i dont think you backup from there.
you backup using the app, and nandroid I think.
also make sure to save the backup onto your computer also!
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That's actually incorrect. What you described is still the stock recovery menu. Cwm recovery has more options, and the text will either be green or red, depending on whether you have the ext4 (voodoo) lagfix applied.
If you have the correct CWM update.zip file on the root of your internal sd, then boot into stock recovery and select "reinstall packages." You'll be thrown back into stock recovery, whereupon you select reinstall packages a second time. That second one will put you in CWM recovery.
And to clarify, you CAN restore/backup from CWM (as well as many other things...maybe read up on that). Just remember that a backup does not include your kernel, in case you bounce between 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3 roms.
Hope that helps...good luck.
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SamsungVibrant said:
thats the cwm recovery, i dont think you backup from there.
you backup using the app, and nandroid I think.
also make sure to save the backup onto your computer also!
also, there is a special folder, i forget which folder it is. it must be backed up separately i think. It contains your phones imei and other information, without it your radio and phone will not make calls. back that up. I forget what its called. If you loose that, you lost it for good and your phone is junk
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You're thinking of EFS. I don't believe you can back that up through recovery. There is a different procedure for that which I can't recall off the top of my head.
Don't forget, after flashing you should wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and fix permissions. All are options in the recovery.
Hi guys, all went smoothly and I am now using Axura ROM 2.3.1.3 and I got to say WOW,I love this ROM, very stabile,GPS works a breeze and battery life seems good also, thanks for your support.
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It is addicting the flashing game is very bad though I ruined 2 micro SD cards
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its way too addictive!!!

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