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Kite UI - Coherent User interface *Thread update* 2010-12-01

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The kite UI project was created to provide Android users with a beautiful homescreen. It's key features is the coherent minimal design, the access to the most daily functions from the home screen and the smooth jump from it to the different applications.
The kite UI is built off of a pretty simple idea:
You have 2-3 views in every app. Flicking left from the middle view will bring you to the right view and vice versa. While you are in the right view, for instance the 'social' view, you can dig deeper by pressing on a friend. If you want to move backwards in this view all you do is flick right. If you are in the left view you move backwards by flicking left.
Simply put, when you're going deeper within a certain view you move further away from the middle. Moving closer to the middle equals moving backwards until ultimately your on the first 'level' of the view.
Video Teaser: Watch in 720p.
Homescreen example
The 3 'boxes' on the bottom of the screen, which show were you are, also acts like the app launcher. However, depending on which page you are currently viewing it brings up different menus. On the homescreen it brings up all apps while it on the social page brings up apps that are directly related to social medias like twitter, facebook, flickr.
Here are some concept promos.
kite User Interface:
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home
social
web
Bundled applications:
applications & settings
phone
messaging
music
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Latest update first:
*Updated* 2010-12-01 - Video teaser.
Finished the video showcase of the user interface. I'm currently too tired to update the thread or answer PMs and questions on the thread but I will try to get to that on the train to/from school tomorrow.
Video Teaser: Watch in 720p.
Enjoy!
*Updated* 2010-10-20 - Development goes on....
First of all I would like to clarify some things about this project.
Kite UI is not a theme, it is a completely new and unique User Interface. It will be available for Devices with the resolution 480x800 (and up) running Android 2.1 (and up).
We are really appreciative to all the interest that has been shown. However, with all due respect I must say that finding PMs like "can i plz test it" in my inbox is rather annoying.
If you have some serious skills that could be useful in development, feel free to PM me.
Back to the UI then. I recently got a new idea of how the interface should work and I have also altered the views slightly (to the better). This means that some of the pictures in this post is more or less obsolete, even though they still give you a good idea of what it is all about.
I will go into further detail about what is changed in the near future.
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If this thread is a little scarce on updates don't worry. It is simply because what is currently going on "behind the scenes" is more or less boring dev stuff.
*Updated* 2010-09-28 - Development has started.
Alright, so we have now started the actual developing of the UI. We are however, still in need of a few more coders for this project. Specifically coders with experience within programming on the Android Home API. To apply for the team, simply send me a PM.
As far as testers go we do have a test leader, but we have yet to decide who else is going to be on the testing team.
Audio and additional graphics designers are not needed at the time being, but might be asked to join in the future.
*Updated* 2010-09-26 - Rewritten presentation, list removed from post.
And yes, I got some inspiration from the HTC1 concept but this idea wasn't initiated by it. What was inspired by the HTC1 concept was the implementation of Flickr pics in the friend stream and how the clock and weather was done as one single widget. However I think we all can agree the end result of my clock look almost nothing like the original HTC1.
I stated this a couple of posts ahead but I guess I should've written this in the original post.
*Updated* 2010-09-20 - Teaser Promos.
If you are on the list of devs (language excluded) expect to be notified by PM sometime this week.
*Updated* 2010-09-17 - Ratio Changes, Redone art and New art.
Alright, I got some explaining to do so I'll go right ahead. I was supposed to look into the actuall developing of the UI at the end of August, but unfortunately I didn't. I'm not going to go into detail about why but it was a mix of school and prolonged work which left me with very little spare time to do much else.
Anyway, enough with the excuses. The last couple of days I've been doing some changes to the concept art. For some (stupid) reason I decided to use a resolution of 640x960px when this was first started, however that is now changed to 480x800 (hdpi). When I changed the ratio I also did some minor changes to all views, some was completely redone and some new where added.
This project is however still in concept art stage. Other than the ratio changes and some new views - done the last couple of days - the development has been at a complete standstill.
However this is about to change. Even though I go to college and study pretty much I will from now on focus my spare time on this. The list below has been modified with some new interesting people but to make sure the team doesn't get too big I will try to make it shorter in the following days.
Developers will be picked based on experience and how much time you can spare in a week.
Testers will be chosen based on devices, spare time and when they 'signed up' and if more testers are needed then we will work our way down the list. This means that if you are on the list you are not yet guaranteed to be on the team.

uhm..I very like this idea.....
pm me if you want someone

That weather/clock widget is amazing.

Interesting concept. Wish I had some skills to help you.

Bump! *updated* 2010-07-31
New Screens and more specifik descriptions of the project. I thought I might have been a bit unclear the first time...

I could help with some of the coding. I'm not a android dev god, but i can do some decent coding, and if i don't know how to do it i'll find out
If i can join i'll be ready to work on saturday, because i'm on vacation until then

I like the silky smooth white look you're going for, I love designing UI's as well

This looks epic, I'd be glad to beta test when that time comes. Unfortunately, I have no coding skill at all (I had meant to start learning Java over the summer but I've been lazy), but again, this looks promising, and a great way to keep Android fresh for older phones that won't get official updates to Eclair or FroYo (let along Gingerbread/3.0). Excellent graphic design.

I'm wouldn't be able to build it... but I'd sure be glad to give feedback/test it all

WOW! i really like this it's very nice hopefully it's fast 2
i would rly like to test it if it's in beta fase.

Will test when ready for testing. Sign me up.

Wow looks good. Wish I had coding skills! Would love to test this
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Sign me up for testing!
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Liquidice said:
I've recently been working on some simple designs for a Coherent User Interface for Android and I thought I'd start with explaining why I first decided to start with my sketches for this project for a UI.
(Should you not be interested in why - just scroll down to the /// mark and read about/look at the interface as of yet)
The first time I used an Android phone for more than 5 minutes was earlier this summer. The first thing I realised was that I liked the phone itself, which was my brothers htc Hero, but I also liked the feature of SenseUI. The apps being accessible trough widgets 'on the homescreen' rather than trough a list of apps with respective icons (like the iphone) was the key benefit for me.
However something bothered me with the SenseUI. First of I dont like the design of the greyish 'console' on the bottom of the screen and I would much rather have a design that fits the background picture better. I must however say that I respect the customization abilities, but unfortunately the problem with this feature is that it looks like those widgets where put in last minute without any respect for the rest of the UI - it doesn't feel cohesive.
Enough complaining. To the point!
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I wanted a UI with a simplistic design that makes the beautiful background picture fit perfectly with everything else that I might interact with. I also wanted to keep the benefit of having everything accessible from the homescreen (rather than forcing me to an ugly app list).
So the challenge here was to incorporate the most daily functions with the homescreen and its background picture and make everything look cohesive and thought trough, rather than last minute, while keeping a simplistic yet beautiful design.
I'm calling this project kiteUI to begin with. The UI is much like SenseUI in the way that you swipe back and forth between pages, however the pages are dedicated to the most daily uses in order to maintain that consistant look.
This overview pic shows how the 'pages' relate to eachother
Here are the screenshots with descriptions for the current graphics.
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Home
Web
Search
Social
Apps
Settings
The apps/games/settings list (lvl2) is not necessarily a part of the UI itself. It's rather a replacement for the current standard app list. The important thing about this project is to maintain that coherent look all throught the usual apps, wether it is the UI itself or a complimentary app list or phone app.
However, the switch from the kiteUI to the app list, or any other standard app for that matter, should feel as natural as when swiping back and forth between the pages (lvl1, see overview pic).
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This is very early on in the project though so there's obviously going to be some major bumps on the road.
1st - I will not use an Android phone 'for real' until the middle of August. Untill then the android emulator will be more than fine.
2nd - My skills are pretty much limited to graphic design and this is why I'm reaching out to coders, programmers, cookers (even beta testers, not yet though) that might find this interesting.
Programmers/Coders - Will take on the challenge of making the UI (or rather the widgets) itself and the new style app list.
Cookers - Will help make the ROM that uses the latest Android version with the kiteUI, app list, and all the reskinned standard apps.
I myself will do the designs for the UI and all the app list but also the reskinning of all the standard apps (and probably more).
I do not think this has to be so radical that we create a program from nothing. As I said I'm no programmer but I do believe that you could base the main kiteUI off of the standard Android interface source code but with obviously different layouts, graphics, animations and actions.
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Do you find this interesting? Do you want to be a part of this? Do you have any skills that might come in handy?
Then send me a PM or feel free to share your opinions and thoughts below.
Thanks!
*updated* 2010-07-31
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Ill cook it in. Pm me a link, and ill work my magic on it. I can theme it, cook it in, and manipulate stuff.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Awesome concept...
Hope this one is going to make it
Would love to test, too

Che123 said:
Awesome concept...
Hope this one is going to make it
Would love to test, too
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It will make it. If i cook it into jdfroyo, it should make it.
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jdkoreclipse said:
It will make it. If i cook it into jdfroyo, it should make it.
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I hope so.
Unfortunally I have seen many nice concepts here, which never were impemented

*updated* 2010-08-02
Thats very true - most concepts, no matter what they concern, never make it to reality. However I'm willing to put alot of effort into this project. As you can see my concept art are pretty much final and already covers the main features.
Whats left other than finalizing the rest of the concept art is saving the "screenies" as resource pngs (or similiar type) and that's the easies part of it all.
For obvious reasons though, I'm not willing to put my whole spare time into this unless I know I've got some help on the other parts of this project. However since I now know that we have a programmer, cooker and some beta testers onboard I'm going to keep going with the 'concept art'. It's good to know that this is going somewhere.
For the time being I must however ask for a little patience. I quit my summer job at the end of this week and from that time on I'm pretty much free every evening.
From now on I'm going to make a list of the people willing to help out on this project in the original thread post and update it as often as possible. As soon as your help is needed you will me PM'd. To 'sign up' express your interest below...

I know i stated this before, bit i am good at cooking roms. I can also do some themeing, and some programming if need be. Pm anytime if need be
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nice im tester
I have an galaxy spica i5700 samdroid mod 800mhz mdpi 32x480 android 2.1-update1
i you have a working apk plz pm me.

Bad Seed Customs 3D HD Flip Clocks!! by stoney 666

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CLOCKS ON 1ST AND 2ND POST ARE HD SENSE CLOCKS FOR SENSE ROMS ONLY! THEY WILL NOT WORK ON ANY OTHER ROM! ROM MUST BE DEODEXED! FLASH ZIP THROUGH RECOVERY LIKE A ROM!!!
CLOCKS ON 3RD POST ARE NOT FLASHABLE ZIPS. THESE ARE FANCY WIDGET CLOCKS FOUND IN THE MARKET MODIFIED BY ME. THESE ARE FOR ROMS NOT RUNNING SENSE OR SENSE ROMS RUNNING LAUNCHER PRO!!! THESE ARE TO BE INSTALLED LIKE ANY OTHER APP, THROUGH ASTRO OR ROOT EXPLORER OR ANY OTHER APP INSTALING APLICATION!!!
IF NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE TO YOU (NO PUNN) THEN YOU SHOULD PROBABLY READ UP ON ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF "HAVING ROOT" BEFORE CUSTOMIZING YOUR PHONE!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!
FOR ALL REQUEST, I NEED TO KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT A FLIP SENSE, NON FLIP SENSE OR FANCY WIDGET FOR NON SENSE LAUNCHERS AND ROMS... THANK YOU!!!!
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FIRST OF ALL... SUPER SPECIAL THANX TO SLAYER69 FOR HIS INTEREST AND HIS HELP ON MY 3D HD FLIP CLOCK!!!! THIS DUDE IS F#$KIN AWESOME!!
Also thanx to NCX Designs for his pointers and insperation. And a special thanx to whoever it was that made the original port from the HD desire. (sorry, don't remember who!) And incdoes for the whole HD desire port.... and of course to incubus26jc for all his help!
DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS A KNOWN ISSUE WITH MODIFIED HD FLIP CLOCKS BUT I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY,
WHEN FLASHING ONE OF MY CLOCKS, OR ANY CUSTOM FLIP CLOCK FROM ANYBODY ELSE, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR OLD CLOCK UP ON YOUR HOME SREEN. DO NOT REMOVE WIDGET FROM SCREEN, THEN FLASH THE NEW ONE!!! IT WONT APPEAR!!! TRYING TO ADD STOCK CLOCK WILL NOT WORK EITHER IF YOU COME ACROSS THIS PROBLEM. YOU WILL HAVE TO RE-FLASH YOUR ROM TO GET IT BACK (THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I WAS ABLE TO GET IT BACK. MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS A EASIER WAY.) THANK YOU AND ENJOY THESE KICK ASS CLOCKS!!!!
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THANX TO aamikam FOR THE HOOK UP ON MAKING 4X5 WIDGETS! SINCE I HAVENT HAD ANY REQUEST FOR THESE DEMENTIONS, I WILL ONLY MAKE THEM UPON REQUEST. ONCE I GET ENOUGH REQUEST, I WILL START POSTING DOWNLOAD LINKS FOR THEM.....
http://bit.ly/dEeGne
http://bit.ly/eOsPaW
http://bit.ly/fTEmtB
http://bit.ly/gLwH42
http://bit.ly/f77tcs
http://bit.ly/e3x8vg
http://bit.ly/gKNwJU
http://bit.ly/fHFfXp
http://bit.ly/h5bVBW (4x5 http://bit.ly/eSvyhV)
http://bit.ly/huND3m (4x5 http://bit.ly/ghdDpp)
http://bit.ly/f3CcCh
http://bit.ly/dEIO6u
http://bit.ly/e4pP2p
http://bit.ly/fHkIfN
http://bit.ly/eu73tJ
http://bit.ly/gWdgEP (4x5 http://bit.ly/f5rs1u) (4x5 no base http://bit.ly/fOrdT8)
http://bit.ly/eTELL7
http://bit.ly/hQkUMH
http://bit.ly/id0zkl
http://bit.ly/hpMRmc
http://bit.ly/eZ7phR
http://bit.ly/eoYDBI
http://bit.ly/f1ZPzV
http://bit.ly/exqUGp
These carbon clocks are originaly from carbonite fusion rom by trock79. he gets credit for the grafx, i just modded them to my design. check out his rom, looks sick!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869948
http://bit.ly/gPtv4t (4x5 http://bit.ly/e5BB0G)
http://bit.ly/hxuXXE (4x5 http://bit.ly/hUW9Pa)
Any of the 3D flip clock designs will be available in a non flip clock upon request. I know some dont like the flip feature so i will try to keep everyone happy, cuz that's just the type of guy I am!!
These are 2D flip clocks
http://bit.ly/glpHOC
will post image soon
http://bit.ly/gV0ZuL
http://bit.ly/fRWTu8

Non Flip Clocks....
http://bit.ly/h4TH4d
http://bit.ly/dRfJ8U
http://bit.ly/ikmatf
http://bit.ly/hcgkQM
http://bit.ly/gHSNAu
http://bit.ly/i5f7We
NEW!!! INSPIRED BY MYN'S DARK TRANSPARENT THEME... ANY COLOR OUTLINE UPON REQUEST. OR NO OUTLINE...
http://bit.ly/gaREDS
http://bit.ly/fXMkWU
will post image soon
http://bit.ly/gSm7K5
will post image soon
http://bit.ly/epwK7R
http://bit.ly/dV7cjh
http://bit.ly/gxNIcw
http://bit.ly/hs8sVz (the 7 looks a little smaller than the rest but has been fixed.)

Fancy Widget Clocks for non sense roms
Here are the modded fancy widget clocks for all to use with any rom!!!! these do not flip but still keep the same 3D design. In order to keep me from getting stuck to my laptop, i will be filling this post with links as request come in. any of the hd designs will be available.
THESE ARE NOT FLASHABLE ZIPS!!! THESE ARE APPS TO BE INSTALLED WITH ASTRO, ROOT EXPLORER OR ANY APP INSTALATION APPLICATION!!!!! PLACE IN SDCARD AND INSTALL WITH ONE OF THE MENTIONED INSTALATION APPS.
http://bit.ly/gRxbSy
http://bit.ly/ed9Uug
http://bit.ly/hMOZLv
http://bit.ly/fSnB5T
http://bit.ly/gcv4ry
http://bit.ly/fvfhU0
http://bit.ly/hnWSzq
http://bit.ly/dGQwg7
http://bit.ly/gD8FTp
http://bit.ly/huUP44
By popular demand... Dusk Fancy widget
http://bit.ly/hIw19j

Does this work on gingerbread
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faddys123 said:
Does this work on gingerbread
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For any non sense roms, use the ones in the 3rd post. If there is a design you like that's not on the 3rd post, I will make it for you.
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We're the ones your mom warned you about.... Bad Seed Customs!!!

Will they flip?
Stoney 666 said:
For any non sense roms, use the ones in the 3rd post. If there is a design you like that's not on the 3rd post, I will make it for you.
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We're the ones your mom warned you about.... Bad Seed Customs!!!
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faddys123 said:
Will they flip?
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nope... the only ones that flip are the sense hd flip clocks on the first post.

4 new clocks
1st and 2nd posts.....
http://bit.ly/gKNwJU
http://bit.ly/fHFfXp
http://bit.ly/h4TH4d
http://bit.ly/dRfJ8U

Bump.... not to excited about these, eh? I'll delete post after a couple of more bumps if it doesnt pick up i guess.....

Holy smoke these are amazing! You will get the props you want and deserve soon!
Thanks.
P.s. Don't delete them. This is great work!

esk02k said:
Holy smoke these are amazing! You will get the props you want and deserve soon!
Thanks.
P.s. Don't delete them. This is great work!
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Thank you homie! Not looking to get props, just feedback, comments, likes, dislikes. you know, something to let me know whether its worth running another thread. Already balancing 9 other threads.

first of all, great job! great to see the flip clocks working perfectly on 2.2 roms (im running leedroid 2.3d). however, i do have one request. it's if you could possibly make a flip clock that looks exactly like the stock one. the "stock" one you have right now is good, but id love one that had the dark-ish background. thanks and keep up the good work!

Stoney 666 said:
Thank you homie! Not looking to get props, just feedback, comments, likes, dislikes. you know, something to let me know whether its worth running another thread. Already balancing 9 other threads.
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Cool well I'm gonna try some of these bad boys out
And I'll let you know what I think. 9 threads! Damn.
I checked your theme out, it looks hot too!

kino1122 said:
first of all, great job! great to see the flip clocks working perfectly on 2.2 roms (im running leedroid 2.3d). however, i do have one request. it's if you could possibly make a flip clock that looks exactly like the stock one. the "stock" one you have right now is good, but id love one that had the dark-ish background. thanks and keep up the good work!
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try this one, i'm pretty sure this is the stock clock. i usually keep a screen shot along with the clock zips so i know which clock it is here on my pc, but since i don't post the stock one, i don't have a screen shot to reference. if thats not it, i'll get it today, just let me know....
View attachment HtcClockWidget-stockwhite_flip.zip

Stoney 666 said:
try this one, i'm pretty sure this is the stock clock. i usually keep a screen shot along with the clock zips so i know which clock it is here on my pc, but since i don't post the stock one, i don't have a screen shot to reference. if thats not it, i'll get it today, just let me know....
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yes this is the stock clock i am looking for. thanks a lot!

Loved all of them!
Especially the wooden one!
Great job!!!

manosgk80 said:
Loved all of them!
Especially the wooden one!
Great job!!!
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HAHAHA That's funny cuz the only reason i posted it was cuz my lady dared me to... when i first made it.... it was more like a gag clock for my lady....
glad you like it!!!!

Hello Stoney,
The clocks are great, however there is something wrong with the links. I wanted to install the white clock without base (#16 in post 1 - http://bit.ly/fOrdT8) but what I am getting is a red clock like #10.
Please advise.
Cheers,
DonBartal
ps.: running AuraxTsense 8.3, and I wiped the davlik after installing the zip from recovery.

DonBartal said:
Hello Stoney,
The clocks are great, however there is something wrong with the links. I wanted to install the white clock without base (#16 in post 1 - http://bit.ly/fOrdT8) but what I am getting is a red clock like #10.
Please advise.
Cheers,
DonBartal
ps.: running AuraxTsense 8.3, and I wiped the davlik after installing the zip from recovery.
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Sorry about that! that's weird Cuz these links have never changed and I've never heard of this before. I'll check it out ASAP.
Edit.... OK, I haven't checked out the links yet but I noticed the link you posted here is for the no base 4x5 clock. You do need to have a 4×5 layout fir this clock. If you don't have the 4×5 Rosie layout, I will make the no base in the normal 4×4 layout for you. I still need to check the link messup though....
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!

installed the stock flipclock and its working amazing. thx so much 4 improving leedroid even more

Taskbar rant!!!

I am really miffed at this.
I think it is a big google mistake that we spend the money on these 10.1 inch devices only to have 5+% of the screen constantly used up a by a big black bar at the bottom!
In reality our 10.1 inch screens end up being smaller than that of a 9.7 inch ipad!
Surely all that was really needed was a small semi-transparent home, back, and settings buttons? Maybe even configurable. Can't be that hard, look at button savior or virtual button bar...
I have been experimenting with honey bar and the open source hide bar, but both these options when used in conjunction with the programmes mentioned above end up making the desktop stutter in transition...
Does anyone have a solution that might work, or are there any devs that can put something together?
Maybe leave the buttons in place, but have the bar itself transparent?
Phh... makes me mad, really.
What do you think? Post your thoughts.
MJ-12

Doesn't bother me one bit
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Same here.
As a matter of fact.....
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never bothered me but now that you mention it a transparent bar would be quite cool. Actually now I want one. Any other tabs have one?

irishmoe said:
never bothered me but now that you mention it a transparent bar would be quite cool. Actually now I want one. Any other tabs have one?
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Galaxy tab have code for one, it gives show/hide option when pressing the power button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265397
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MJ-12 said:
I am really miffed at this.
I think it is a big google mistake that we spend the money on these 10.1 inch devices only to have 5+% of the screen constantly used up a by a big black bar at the bottom! ....
MJ-12
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I'm not that upset about it. I have noticed it. But it's not there when it would actually matter to me (while watching video, playing games, etc.). As far as being a part of the interface or ui element, it's not really taking that much screen real estate from the apps that use it.
The simplest solution would be to replicate the 2.3 taskbar. A simple, thin taskbar with the time, battery, notifs on it and some smart points where we know to touch to get the desired action. It's likely it was made that size to be uniform with the size of the screen. Deeper into that, an easy way to hide it and make it transparent or translucent. Similar perhaps notif./active app list on phones...a simple pull-down or pull-up gesture could be implemented to pull it into and out of sight. Additionally, a gesture based solution could be implemented for apps that do require the bar to be there for use of backing out, going to home screen or viewing recent or running apps.
Remember that Samsung is running their own layer on top of HC so they can do whatever they want. That is also going to make it slightly more difficult for them to get updates to the tablet on a timely basis in most scenarios unless they are very on top of it. I doubt that with the multitude they'll have coming....7, 8.9 and 10 inch tabs all needing to be updated that they will indeed be very on top of it. And they don't have the best track record for updates post-hotness of their devices.
Acer could get the same customized elements if they did a light layer as well, but we'd no longer have vanilla HC and I don't think we'd like the trade off, which would be waiting a while longer for updates.
I say we wait and see what ICS has for us. It's at least somewhat likely Google has considered this.
Alternatively, maybe there's a HC designed launcher you could use to replace the current one?

Never noticed, I like it just like it is, transparent would be nice though.

Neoprimal said:
I'm not that upset about it. I have noticed it. But it's not there when it would actually matter to me (while watching video, playing games, etc.). As far as being a part of the interface or ui element, it's not really taking that much screen real estate from the apps that use it.
The simplest solution would be to replicate the 2.3 taskbar. A simple, thin taskbar with the time, battery, notifs on it and some smart points where we know to touch to get the desired action. It's likely it was made that size to be uniform with the size of the screen. Deeper into that, an easy way to hide it and make it transparent or translucent. Similar perhaps notif./active app list on phones...a simple pull-down or pull-up gesture could be implemented to pull it into and out of sight. Additionally, a gesture based solution could be implemented for apps that do require the bar to be there for use of backing out, going to home screen or viewing recent or running apps.
Remember that Samsung is running their own layer on top of HC so they can do whatever they want. That is also going to make it slightly more difficult for them to get updates to the tablet on a timely basis in most scenarios unless they are very on top of it. I doubt that with the multitude they'll have coming....7, 8.9 and 10 inch tabs all needing to be updated that they will indeed be very on top of it. And they don't have the best track record for updates post-hotness of their devices.
Acer could get the same customized elements if they did a light layer as well, but we'd no longer have vanilla HC and I don't think we'd like the trade off, which would be waiting a while longer for updates.
I say we wait and see what ICS has for us. It's at least somewhat likely Google has considered this.
Alternatively, maybe there's a HC designed launcher you could use to replace the current one?
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Well thought out reply, with some good ideas.
I think the best thing is to wait and see what ICS has to offer.
Cheers

I've always wanted to make the taskbar transparent. It doesn't bother me that its there and I use honeybar when I want to hide it, but having it transparent would make life so much easier.
When you use honeybar you're just adding another step to access the back, home and info buttons. I would also love to hide the upper icons as I never ever use them.

I know that there's an app that will hide the taskbar, because I saw it in one of the latest cooked ROMs in the DEV section. Have a look over there for the name of the app. He's actually included it in the ROM, but you can d/l the app once you know it's name.

you know I really thought I would hate it before I got this tab, but frankly I love it, it
s far more interactive and has great potential, with it being software based, it has moddability that buttons and capacitive spots don't have. and since the screens are already quite big, there's no lost functionality like on a phone.
case in point: download Wizz bar and see how much it add to the multitasking capability of HC. and remember that this is just getting started.

Honeybar
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I love posting a solution to someone's issue and the thread instantly dies. Hope you found the Honeybar program. It works great but requires root.
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
I love posting a solution to someone's issue and the thread instantly dies. Hope you found the Honeybar program. It works great but requires root.
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I don't particularly think of that as a solution, per se. It is great info though if folks don't know about it. The thread probably cooled off because many people don't really care about the bar or are using ROMs that have the ability to hide it anyway.
Honeybar may hide it like what Samsung and some Devs have done with their ROMS, that's great on some level but there's still that underlying issue of the bar being 1. there in the first place and 2. pretty, erm, obtrusive in some apps for some people. Furthermore, honeybar requires root and not everyone wants to root their tablet.
I say hurry up ICS!

Neoprimal said:
I don't particularly think of that as a solution, per se. It is great info though if folks don't know about it. The thread probably cooled off because many people don't really care about the bar or are using ROMs that have the ability to hide it anyway.
Honeybar may hide it like what Samsung and some Devs have done with their ROMS, that's great on some level but there's still that underlying issue of the bar being 1. there in the first place and 2. pretty, erm, obtrusive in some apps for some people. Furthermore, honeybar requires root and not everyone wants to root their tablet.
I say hurry up ICS!
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Eggsackery,
This is what I mean.
+1 for ics
MJ-12

Total screen area is 45.5 square inches... Status bar is just under 3... In terms of screen area, it is about 6%,
To be technical, subtracting out the status bar leaves 9.9 inches diagonally, which is how screens are measured... Actual diagonal size is really 10.07 inches... You lose 0.17 diagonal inches... 1.688% diagonal screen loss.
Edit: I could make it worse... Screen size is measured by the diagonal. If you take the diagonal of the status bar, it is about 8.6 inches... Which is 85% of 10.1... lol.
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Civato's mix rom has an app called hide bar that hides the taskbar and you can just swipe it back. It works pretty good.
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monkey10120 said:
Civato's mix rom has an app called hide bar that hides the taskbar and you can just swipe it back. It works pretty good.
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This info is included in the OP.
But its not exactly the point being made here. See a couple of posts back #14 by Neoprimal...

[Mod][FlexreaperR14][5/3/2012] Softkeys & Accurate Battery

Disclaimer
I, nor anybody, anywhere is responsible for what you do to your device!
Support for: Flexreaper R14 and CM9 Alpha1
So seeing a total lack of mods around this place I took it upon myself to kang together some things for myself, and am uploading them here for all to enjoy (or not, really doesn't matter to me)
I am not a themer, developer, or anything of the sort. I am a copy and paster. With that being my situation, there are several thanks that need to be given here.
Thanks to:
Vache for the kickass rom
UOT Kitchen. They provided the .xml edits for the accurate battery mod and the flashable zip I'm using
iammodo. He compiled this great collection of softkeys on xoom board
s60mike for the blue circles softkeys
mr_physco. For providing the battery images.
civato For the awesome Flexreaper rom and requested Acer ring icons.
waydownsouth, gh123man, and the whole CM team!
If I forgot anyone I assure you it is because I am an idiot, not because I don't value and appreciate your work.
All the files contain this battery image
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Just because it's my favorite
CM9 Alpha1
Flexreaper (Thanks civato)
ICS blue bullseye
Just started off with these 5 so far, will do more if there is interest/if I feel like it.
Blue Circles
Droid Font
HTC Blue Reflective
Metro Blue
Roboto Blue
ADDED 3/12/2012
HTC White
HTC Reflective
ICS Blue Reflective
Asus ICS Blue
ICS Blue Reflective
Added 3/15/12
ICS Blue 15% bigger
Added 3/17/12
A200
Added 4/29/12
Sammyblue

Hmmm... tried 3 times, different wipe scenarios, and she don't work mate.
Batt mods don't work as advertised. Still the stock batt. Other things seem to work though. Well, mostly.

Moscow Desire said:
Hmmm... tried 3 times, different wipe scenarios, and she don't work mate.
Batt mods don't work as advertised. Still the stock batt. Other things seem to work though. Well, mostly.
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Ok well until I can research this is just a softkeys mod, mostly.
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Moscow Desire said:
Hmmm... tried 3 times, different wipe scenarios, and she don't work mate.
Batt mods don't work as advertised. Still the stock batt. Other things seem to work though. Well, mostly.
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Which one/ones did you try on what rom?
To test I just did a full wipe (wipe data/cache, format system, cache, data, flexrom) and reinstalled taboonay (3.0, then 3.01 update, then wifi fix, then acer ring, then my mods) and it worked great
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bfranklin1986 said:
Which one/ones did you try on what rom?
To test I just did a full wipe (wipe data/cache, format system, cache, data, flexrom) and reinstalled taboonay (3.0, then 3.01 update, then wifi fix, then acer ring, then my mods) and it worked great
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Well, I might have to eat some words.
I tested 2 of them. I didn't see it on the first mod (#1), but (when things got dark in the room), I could barely see the white numbering on the battery icon on the "reflective". So "maybe" it was working after all. Kinda hard to see the white numbering on the light blue battery.
Must be my eyes

Aw man idk how we're supposed to dl these- ... that link just goes to minus homepage :-\ I sign up it still brings me there, these are exactly what I was looking for too!! Amazing work, I can't wait to download em lol
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bdubs4200 said:
Aw man idk how we're supposed to dl these- ... that link just goes to minus homepage :-\ I sign up it still brings me there, these are exactly what I was looking for too!! Amazing work, I can't wait to download em lol
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Try either from a computer or opera set to desktop mode, it wouldn't let me get to them from the stock ics browser
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thank you. Dolphin HD, worked just fine
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Just wanted to confirm that these will work on Civato's FlexReaper R9 Rom. At least the droidfont mod will, thats the one I tried. I wasn't expecting the yellow circle at the bottom to access the Acer ring, but all works as it should. Nicely done, and thanks.

I love the HTC icons wish they were white ..
Edit: nvm love the blue anyone try with flexreaper ics? I dno if itle work..
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dincdoes.me said:
I love the HTC icons wish they were white ..
Edit: nvm love the blue anyone try with flexreaper ics? I dno if itle work..
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karlkarloff above says that the droid font worked with flexreaper. If one of them works they all should, they only difference between each mod is the 5 to 7 sofkey .pngs. Do a backup and if all else fails you can just restore the backup. Give me about 15 mins and I'll add the white HTC ones too.
Edit: Added White HTC to folder

bfranklin1986 said:
karlkarloff above says that the droid font worked with flexreaper. If one of them works they all should, they only difference between each mod is the 5 to 7 sofkey .pngs. Do a backup and if all else fails you can just restore the backup. Give me about 15 mins and I'll add the white HTC ones too.
Edit: Added White HTC to folder
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Does this look normal I figured it would and that in would gain the bulls eye sense they are based on the same base.
I will take a look at white thank you!
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dincdoes.me said:
Does this look normal I figured it would and that in would gain the bulls eye sense they are based on the same base.
I will take a look at white thank you!
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looks about right to me, not sure what you mean by bull eye but if it's related to the acer ring it shouldn't change anything, everything related to the acer ring should be in acering.apk. The only thing my mod replaces is your framework-res.apk and your systemui.apk.

Yea if you look at the pic the greenish/yellowish dot with a circle around it the acer ring launcher used to look different like a grey line.
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dincdoes.me said:
Yea if you look at the pic the greenish/yellowish dot with a circle around it the acer ring launcher used to look different like a grey line.
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Right you are looks like that icon is in the systemui.apk
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The link in the OP just takes me to the minus homepage, no files. Do I need to sign up just to download?

TFordham said:
The link in the OP just takes me to the minus homepage, no files. Do I need to sign up just to download?
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Try it from a computer or a browser in desktop mode, for some reason it doesn't work on a browser in phone or tablet mode.

(i miss my vibrant) but anywho, why search icon when its the recent tab??.. did you make these? if so how!? lol i got some cool icons id like to throw in there

bdubs4200 said:
(i miss my vibrant) but anywho, why search icon when its the recent tab??.. did you make these? if so how!? lol i got some cool icons id like to throw in there
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No, I didn't make any of these, credits are in the op. Search icon there because some tablets have search icon I guess???
Pretty easy to switch in any icons, if you want to link or send me some wouldn't take me a few minutes to resize, rename, and swap in the icons. If you wanted to do it yourself all you need is 7zip and Gimp (actually paint might even be able to handle this). Maybe I'll sit down Friday while I'm off and type up a detailed tutorial.

bfranklin1986 said:
No, I didn't make any of these, credits are in the op. Search icon there because some tablets have search icon I guess???
Pretty easy to switch in any icons, if you want to link or send me some wouldn't take me a few minutes to resize, rename, and swap in the icons. If you wanted to do it yourself all you need is 7zip and Gimp (actually paint might even be able to handle this). Maybe I'll sit down Friday while I'm off and type up a detailed tutorial.
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wow that is extreamly (?) nice of you! now that i think of it, the metro blue is near perfect, but the search (for recent) and the clock (for list/menu) would drive me nuts lol they just dont fit right haha... so could i somehow extract icons from the metrostation.apk ? this is the first time im digging into system files to aesthetically mo, so im a noooob in this theming field lol anything you can do would not go unappreciated
EDIT, your taking all my "thanks" for today to btw

**NEW**[THEME] BlakKat CM11 New Theme Chooser Theme "Into the DARKNESS"

BLAKKAT CM11 THEME
Welcome to BlakKat theme for the NEW CM11 theme chooser
This is based on DarkJelly theme from CM10 but with many additions and improvements!
I hope you enjoy this theme as I fix and add more goodies.
Featured in CyanogenMod Inc Theme Showcase!
Check out "Cyanogen Theme Showcase" - http://bit.ly/SS7WDB
Pretty sure by now we all now how to install these themes but if not I have warnings and instructions in the Playstore descriptions!
I will be making more themes which will include KlearKat and color versions as well.
Want some more themed apps to match BlakKat?
Download the TeamBlackOut Updater app HERE:
I WANT MORE DARKNESS
Most up to date apps are in the beta section!! Also a Preview of KlearKat in the DJ Themes Sections!
Enjoy the themes my friends!
DJ Darkknight96
Screenshots:
Lite:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Full:
NOTE!!!
The leak has more then the Lite, But Lite is more up to date!
Links:
BlakKat Lite:
BlakKatLite
BlakKatFull:
BlakKatFull
BlakKatXDALeak:
Note: This will not be updated!
BlakKatLeak
What's in the full version?
Almost all system apps except a few I'm adding soon.
Anything you install that uses theme.holo will be themed so that list is endless...Lol
Ok here's a list:
Framework
Systemui
Settings
Mms
Browser
Calculator
Camera
Dialer
Contacts
Documents
Email
Keyboard
Lock screen icons
In call - phone
Gmail
DSP manager
CM file manager "select dark theme"
Rom manager
Swype "has multiple themes to choose from"
Tapatalk
Torch
ADW launchers
Apex launcher
Solid explorer
CM11 theme chooser
Apollo
Desk clock
cLock
Lock widget
Theme chooser wallpapers app "it lets me add 20 wallpapers"
100+ icons
Bootanimation
Caviar dreams fonts
Sounds - Bentley Dubs - Mira - Buzzer alarm
More to come!!!
​

NOTE: Hangouts, Google music and a few other Google apps will not theme to my standards and will not be included until I feel it looks right. If you ask about it I will send you to this post...
Look in the TeamBlackOut updater for fully themed versions of them.
Google plus is old because the new one won't decode fully so we can't theme it and it looks half baked in BlakKat if I add it. So it won't be added unless I can get more code from it.<-----themed yay!
thank you!

@op I love your themes.I bought darkjelly back in the day and I know I'll buy this one.Great job again
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UPDATED with new dialer! Check out "BLAKKAT LITE CM11 FREE THEME" - http://bit.ly/1jum2Wc
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I love the klearkat, I wish it didn't change my softkeys though ?. Great job OP!

DJ, you might remember I switched from KlearKat to BlakKat recently due to 4.4.3 dialer issue while you get KK going... BlakKat is actually growing on me, but was curious - is there any remedy for apps who's UI doesn't like the theme - eg Minimalist Text just basically blacks completely out on the menus... Some apps just grey out which is still usable (SSHDroid, FTPDroid are examples).
I realize these are not your issues to work on, but short of switching the theme back to default when I need to use these apps, Is there something specific we can ask the devs to add or include so theme(s) don't wash out their apps?

78Staff said:
DJ, you might remember I switched from KlearKat to BlakKat recently due to 4.4.3 dialer issue while you get KK going... BlakKat is actually growing on me, but was curious - is there any remedy for apps who's UI doesn't like the theme - eg Minimalist Text just basically blacks completely out on the menus... Some apps just grey out which is still usable (SSHDroid, FTPDroid are examples).
I realize these are not your issues to work on, but short of switching the theme back to default when I need to use these apps, Is there something specific we can ask the devs to add or include so theme(s) don't wash out their apps?
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Hmm, well that app is very unusual, I didn't invert any white to black so I have no idea why that grey text is on black. The tabs I know about but are usable but that bg shouldn't change at all. What does it look like on stock?
With this kind of issue I would have to take apart the app to see why.
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djdarkknight96 said:
Hmm, well that app is very unusual, I didn't invert any white to black so I have no idea why that grey text is on black. The tabs I know about but are usable but that bg shouldn't change at all. What does it look like on stock?
With this kind of issue I would have to take apart the app to see why.
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OK - not a critical issue or anything I just didn't know if there was something UI specific I could mention to app devs or something like that... Here is stock (Holo Theme) it's all pretty much white or grey I guess.. or black in the previews. It's not like I'm in the MimText app every day, more of curiosity than anything .
This is an SSH App, which has a grey wash over everything when themed - still usable, of course just wondered why it does it. The dev has several apps that are similar (SSH, FTP, Samba) and they all do it (with KlearKat also), so it has something to do with the way he coded the apps I suppose...
Didn't mean to infer you need to work on anything, mainly just curious about why/how really .

78Staff said:
OK - not a critical issue or anything I just didn't know if there was something UI specific I could mention to app devs or something like that... Here is stock (Holo Theme) it's all pretty much white or grey I guess.. or black in the previews. It's not like I'm in the MimText app every day, more of curiosity than anything .
This is an SSH App, which has a grey wash over everything when themed - still usable, of course just wondered why it does it. The dev has several apps that are similar (SSH, FTP, Samba) and they all do it (with KlearKat also), so it has something to do with the way he coded the apps I suppose...
Didn't mean to infer you need to work on anything, mainly just curious about why/how really .
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Looks like I'll be reverting the grey bg for white to fix that grey on grey but the black bg shouldn't change. I have not one spec of code inverting anything on system so this is a weird one.
Definitely something I needed to know, thanks.
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Theme chooser font packs by @chotu222
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760138
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Featured in CyanogenMod Inc Theme Showcase!
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Come join the community, get some betas and leaked goodies.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/118315228697291293063/members?cfem=1
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If you haven't joined my community then you're missing some goodies:
In beta
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@djdarkknight96 seems like pacman latest nightlies still don't have CM11 commits on theming Gmail, even though everything else seems synchronized. So Gmail looks totally skinned only on CM11 now, on pacman only first screen is skinned. New message and expanded message thread are white( any quick advice on what background values to look for to make a temporary fix for other roms? will upload it here if i can fix it)

oo0 said:
@djdarkknight96 seems like pacman latest nightlies still don't have CM11 commits on theming Gmail, even though everything else seems synchronized. So Gmail looks totally skinned only on CM11 now, on pacman only first screen is skinned. New message and expanded message thread are white( any quick advice on what background values to look for to make a temporary fix for other roms? will upload it here if i can fix it)
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There's nothing wrong with your Rom, gmail is the issue. Google hard coded gmail reply, new message and vacation responder. So I can't touch it with the chooser or even theme the actual apk. Give Google a big fu for that one.
Edit: The ONLY way to fix it is use my old gmail...Link in signature.
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So the only way to use this theme is to have CM11?

orion_134 said:
So the only way to use this theme is to have CM11?
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Yes you need the newer CM11 Theme Chooser.
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Is the theme chooser standalone? I can't find that on the play store, so I guess not?

I can't found you on google plus, what's your name ?
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Found it

The best dark theme on the planet.. If you don't have it go it
N5-Carbon Rom/Team Blackout