[HowTo] Update Your Transformer Without Problems - Eee Pad Transformer General

How many of you have tried updating to a new firmware and you got the yellow exclamation mark?
Well, you probably have a combination of these modifications:
Custom Kernel
ClockworkMod Recovery
Rooted
If you have any of these, this is what you should do.
First, download and run this ONLY FOR INSTALLING/UNINSTALLING STOCK/CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY. - Thread
Read the instructions on how to boot into APX Mode.
Backup your /data with CWM.
After you have backed up your data, you should restore the STOCK ROM of your device.
When you get an update, it /should/ complete without any errors.
DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO THE ROM AT THIS POINT.
Alright. So at this point, you should have a completely stock, updated ROM.
Here are the next steps.
DO NOT ROOT YOUR ROM. DO NOT CHANGE A KERNEL.
Boot into APX Mode.
Make a backup of the STOCK Recovery. (Download From Linked Thread If You Haven't.)
Reboot into APX Mode.
Install ClockworkMod Recovery. (Using Brk's RootKit Script.) Once again. Without Rooting. Without changing the kernel.
Update ClockworkMod Recovery to 3.2.0.1. - Thread
Make a backup of EVERYTHING. (boot, system, data, cache, sd-ext).
After the backup is complete, you can ROOT and install a custom Kernel.
When You Get A New Update: DO NOT INSTALL. DO NOT POSTPONE.
Boot into ClockworkMod Recovery.
Restore the stock Boot.
Restore the stock System.
Boot into APX.
Restore stock recovery. (Using Brk's RootKit Script.)
Now everything should be back to stock.
Your data should still be intact.
When you apply the update, it should complete without a hitch.
Complete these steps again to be ready for the next update.
Cheers.

Thanks !! This did the trick for me. Had previously un-rooted and lost the update. Couldnt get it back until I did this !

I have a question.
I used the root method mentioned above a few weeks ago and everything went perfectly. I did not install CWM, only root.
I used the Netflix hack but managed to erase the original lib file.
I received the update and got the yellow exclamation point.
Last night I used BRK's pure root method and attempted to restore boot image and recovery image hoping it would return my lost lib file. I did not attempt to unroot.
When you mention "stock rom", where do I find the stock US rom?
I have an Epic 4G and run custom roms but I think the Transformer is fine and honestly don't care about root now that Netflix and ad-hoc appear to be working. I would like to end up with a stock Transformer that receives regular updates.
Is this the method for me, or something else?
Thanks

bmcgarry67 said:
I have a question.
I used the root method mentioned above a few weeks ago and everything went perfectly. I did not install CWM, only root.
I used the Netflix hack but managed to erase the original lib file.
I received the update and got the yellow exclamation point.
Last night I used BRK's pure root method and attempted to restore boot image and recovery image hoping it would return my lost lib file. I did not attempt to unroot.
When you mention "stock rom", where do I find the stock US rom?
I have an Epic 4G and run custom roms but I think the Transformer is fine and honestly don't care about root now that Netflix and ad-hoc appear to be working. I would like to end up with a stock Transformer that receives regular updates.
Is this the method for me, or something else?
Thanks
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You should go here: http://tabletroms.com/forums/transf...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
Make sure you backup your data for your applications and the internal sdcard. They will be erased.
Install the 8.4.4.5.
Then you should go here and update to the latest version they have available.
Follow the instructions for this.
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#download
Select Android and download your firmware.
Then you should get your update working after that.
Use this guide, then restore your data using clockworkmod.

Thanks and follow up
The Dark Lestat said:
You should go here:
Make sure you backup your data for your applications and the internal sdcard. They will be erased.
Install the 8.4.4.5.
Then you should go here and update to the latest version they have available.
Follow the instructions for this.
Select Android and download your firmware.
Then you should get your update working after that.
Use this guide, then restore your data using clockworkmod.
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I just had a couple of questions?
You mentioned updating to 8.4.4.5, them updating to 8.6.5.6.
They have the NVFlash with 8.6.5.6. Has that changed since you advised me or should I do it in 2 steps?
Do I download the Asus Rom to the transformer or download to computer, then copy to SD card to install?
Now, I just noticed that 8.6.5.9US is available from Asus. Does this change my procedure?
Thanks again

bmcgarry67 said:
I just had a couple of questions?
You mentioned updating to 8.4.4.5, them updating to 8.6.5.6.
They have the NVFlash with 8.6.5.6. Has that changed since you advised me or should I do it in 2 steps?
Do I download the Asus Rom to the transformer or download to computer, then copy to SD card to install?
Now, I just noticed that 8.6.5.9US is available from Asus. Does this change my procedure?
Thanks again
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When I NVFlashed to 8.6.5.6, I could not receive the update.
Since I used the file from Asus to update, it enabled FOTA somehow.
Anyways, the guide is the same.
If 8.6.5.6 is available, then you can NVFlash 8.6.5.6, then download and update to 8.6.5.9

Thank you.
I NVFlashed to 8.6.5.6 and wiped everything.
The FOTA arrived immediately and updated flawlessly.
Thanks again

Is this update even worth unrooting then root again?

it does fix the issue with browser shortcuts. You no longer have to rotate the screen.

I have not played with it. But it is said to allow Netflix and adhoc without root and patches. Those were the 2 reasons that I rooted.

Why jump through all these hoops?
Step 1: Download the clockworkmod update posted.
Step 2: Flash it.

daoist said:
Why jump through all these hoops?
Step 1: Download the clockworkmod update posted.
Step 2: Flash it.
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Because if you do that, for some reason, FOTA doesn't enable.
AND you will have to wait for a flashible zip to become available.
Not hoops.
I've already tested that route. It didn't work for me.

bmcgarry67 said:
I have not played with it. But it is said to allow Netflix and adhoc without root and patches. Those were the 2 reasons that I rooted.
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Has this been verified?

pigskins said:
Has this been verified?
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Verified.
Netflix and Adhoc work WITHOUT root.
No need to root for those two options.
I personally root because of Titanium Backup.
Even if I have CWM installed.

The Dark Lestat said:
Verified.
Netflix and Adhoc work WITHOUT root.
No need to root for those two options.
I personally root because of Titanium Backup.
Even if I have CWM installed.
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TY!
Did you root after getting the update and if so, how? Did you follow the steps in this thread?

pigskins said:
TY!
Did you root after getting the update and if so, how? Did you follow the steps in this thread?
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Yes. The thread that I posted has all the updated CWM and Root methods. You can use those to root.

The Dark Lestat said:
Because if you do that, for some reason, FOTA doesn't enable.
AND you will have to wait for a flashible zip to become available.
Not hoops.
I've already tested that route. It didn't work for me.
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Why do you want FOTA enabled?
Why be bothered when a release that won't work (without jumping through hoops) is available?
The whole point of installing CWM is that you're going to be managing your tablet rather than letting ASUS do it. If you're going to unroot, FOTA, and reroot every time, just leave it unrooted.

I had successfully update my transformer through OTA without doing all those steps. I just had to root it again after update is done.

daoist said:
Why do you want FOTA enabled?
Why be bothered when a release that won't work (without jumping through hoops) is available?
The whole point of installing CWM is that you're going to be managing your tablet rather than letting ASUS do it. If you're going to unroot, FOTA, and reroot every time, just leave it unrooted.
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You don't have to root to use CWM. FOTA won't work with CWM.
I use Root only for setCPU and Titanium.
I like getting the update as soon as possible. Not waiting a couple days for it.
Sei911 said:
I had successfully update my transformer through OTA without doing all those steps. I just had to root it again after update is done.
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If you just rooted and did not make any changes to the system, then in theory, it should work. Depending on the root method.

Related

Little bit confused

I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
dccxviii said:
I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
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You cannot get root back without a custom recovery. OTA will not relock the bootloader, you'll just lose root and custom recovery.
You need to flash custom recovery using fastboot, then flash superuser to get root back. There are plenty of guides in the stickies describing the process.
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
The superuser app checks to see if you have the latest superuser binary and will download and instalk it. Or download superuser from within rom manager.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
Ok..the binary update fails (because i don't have root) so it's chicken and egg as far as I can tell.
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
dccxviii said:
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
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You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
albundy2010 said:
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
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You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
irishrally said:
You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
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Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
dccxviii said:
You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
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Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
irishrally said:
Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
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Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
dccxviii said:
Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
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You're welcome.
If you stick with a stock ROM then recovery will reflash every time you reboot. To prevent this you can go to system>etc, and change the file install-recovery.init to something else like install-recovery.init.bak.

Help returning my A500 to stock

I downgraded my unrooted A500 on 3.2 to the "unstable" 3.0.1
I then rooted it and installed CWM.
Then I made a back up on CWM before flashing another rom.
It worked really well except a couple of bugs (No audio on HDMI and reduced battery life)
I know beggars can't be choosers but I would prefer if EVERYTHING worked.
So....I restored my A500 from the backup of 3.0.1 via CWM with a hope to just returning it back to factory settings and returning to an unrooted 3.2
However, when it tries to do the system update it fails.
I have tried the factory reset and then tried again to update via system update but still fails (I get the blue honeycomb bee with exclamation mark)
Can anyone point me in the direction of a stock 3.2 rom that I can flash via CWM?
or even better, one that means I wont lose root???
Go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227 and try method #2...
tumpy said:
Go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227 and try method #2...
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Thank you but that was the original method I used to downgrade and is the rom that CWm restores to from my back up.
The problem I have is upgrading via the system update.
I am currently trying to do it via a different SD card.....
there are some roms around, but you'll need a good knowledge of search button
Here's one, there are more but keep in mind they are near stock rooted roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313757&highlight=stock+rom+rooted&page=1
cheers
This happened to me.
You need to install Acer Recovery from Market and flash the Stock recovery before it will let you update with system updates.
Here is a link to stock rom using cwm but it says its not rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429199
Since this looks like it keeps cwm in place you should be able to download the flashable version of super user and root your device through recovery.
Just do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
It will fix your issues, guarantee it. Just read the instructions in the readme.
TD
starkiller86 said:
This happened to me.
You need to install Acer Recovery from Market and flash the Stock recovery before it will let you update with system updates.
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From what I understand, Acer Recovery flashes the US version of stock recovery??
My tablet is a UK one. I did try this before a ALMOST bricked it. I managed to recover it using a previous backup I had made.
timmyDean said:
Just do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
It will fix your issues, guarantee it. Just read the instructions in the readme.
TD
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This did the trick!
Thanks for the heads up

[TIPS AND DISCUSS] ICS update DOES NOT *ALWAYS* BREAK ROOT (& other tips and reviews)

[TIPS AND DISCUSS] ICS update DOES NOT *ALWAYS* BREAK ROOT (& other tips and reviews)
This is not intended to be a bug-sharing thread, report them if you wish, but I'm sure there will be entire threads devoted to this, so keep this in mind when posting.
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried. Dlpkgfile available HERE NOW!
luna_c666 said:
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried. Dlpkgfile available HERE NOW!
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Cheers luna ... just need a WW version
Noob question though ..... I am on a custom ROM. I have CWM recovery.
I thought I couldnt update OTA if my TF was rooted ? or is it that I have the custom recovery that prevents this ?
I can flash back to stock easily - its removing CWM and unrooting that looked to be the more techie issue.
With what you are saying is there an easy way, once I have reverted to stock ROM, to revert to stock recovery without losing root ? Or do i even need to revert to stock ROM ??
Can update if rooted, but need to be on a stock ROM and stock Recovery image in order to successfully install. Download the 8.2.3.5 US recovery file located here :http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/, flash it through CWM and you have now overwritten your CWM and gone back to stock. Ready to update from there. Cheers!
so what is the procedure to update? Rename it, put it in microsd root and reboot into recovery?
another question, i cannot root with nachoroot, so is it possible to root with 1-click root?
asder00 said:
so what is the procedure to update? Rename it, put it in microsd root and reboot into recovery?
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That might work, I don't know exactly because I got the FOTA pushed to my device and updated through the 'official' update process. I honestly have no idea how the dlpkgfile is even packaged, if it is CWM flashable or requires stock recovery etc., honestly my first time fooling with capturing the OTA files.
Ok I'm trying and I will tell u....
I don't care about root right now...
luna_c666 said:
Can update if rooted, but need to be on a stock ROM and stock Recovery image in order to successfully install. Download the 8.2.3.5 US recovery file located here :http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/, flash it through CWM and you have now overwritten your CWM and gone back to stock. Ready to update from there. Cheers!
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Do I understand correctly that I only have to do Step 7 of the tutorial? and then install ICS (regular update process)?
I am rooted and I have CWM (no custom ROM)
So first impressions luna? Might as well start a discussion to keep the post on top and visible.
Did you run Spark? If so how does it compare?
Positives negatvies
Yes I do realise that you have had it for like 12 seconds but first impressions are nice.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
Dreamboxuser said:
So first impressions luna? Might as well start a discussion to keep the post on top and visible.
Did you run Spark? If so how does it compare?
Positives negatvies
Yes I do realise that you have had it for like 12 seconds but first impressions are nice.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
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Unfortunately I never did get around to trying the latest Spark, I saw the complaints about touchscreen issues and decided it might be best to wait for Paul to work it out, but Asus finally got the upper hand on him!
Seems a treat, but I expected as you can see I've been running CM9 on my epic for about 3 weeks now. Much snappier, generic comments that have already been posted- but not explored completely yet, too busy helping others get their own ICS since the update came in to be selfish and sign off yet
Steven, I'm not sure which step 7 you are referring to but you will need a stock recovery in order to flash the file. CWM will flash files that have been repacked for CWM usually, and OTA updates install from the cache partition so CWM will not be able to install the OTA. CWM can flash it manually, I THINK (not sure if it needs to be repackaged for that to occur or not), but CWM will not install the OTA through the normal OTA process.
luna_c666 said:
Steven, I'm not sure which step 7 you are referring to but you will need a stock recovery in order to flash the file. CWM will flash files that have been repacked for CWM usually, and OTA updates install from the cache partition so CWM will not be able to install the OTA. CWM can flash it manually, I THINK (not sure if it needs to be repackaged for that to occur or not), but CWM will not install the OTA through the normal OTA process.
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I was refering to step 7 on the Unlocker page you pointed to:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
So in short only replace the recovery as explained in pojnt 7 (and 8) of that page and then do a regular system update to ICS.
No need to unroot??
Will this keep my apps and settings? I do have Titanium so I can do a backup and restore that way.
Thanks a lot for helping!!
Steven_nl said:
I was refering to step 7 on the Unlocker page you pointed to:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/11/28/how-to-unroot-and-remove-cwm-recovery-on-asus-transformer/
So in short only replace the recovery as explained in pojnt 7 (and 8) of that page and then do a regular system update to ICS.
No need to unroot??
Will this keep my apps and settings? I do have Titanium so I can do a backup and restore that way.
Thanks a lot for helping!!
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Yes, your apps and data should remain intact, and that is correct, you only need to flash the recovery back to stock if you are already on a stock ROM. As of right now, only US and TW firmware versions are getting the OTA pushed to their device, but if you are not one of these you can manually flash to these stock ROMs via CWM if need be. But yes, if you are stock + root + CWM, you only need to flash over CWM back to stock. Root is fine to keep and all data will be saved (it is an official update, people would be irate if it wiped their data you know!)
Great stuff thanks again. I'n in Europe so I might need to wait for a bit but that is fine.
No problem. Ok guys, I've done a bunch of talking and answered quite a few PMs, and posted all my methods/experience with ICS so far, now, I'm going to go play for a while (it's 7am, and I've not been to bed, and I have to work at 4pm and my son will likely be up in an hour, so no sleep for me today, should have a well-rounded review by the time you see me again)
If you guys want to keep this thread alive, have at it! Turn it into a discussion.. See you guys in a while, can't wait to see what I miss while I'm gone
Well I did the update with root disabled with rootkeeper but now rootkeeper will not restore Root.
I guess I should of read thi before updating
Anyone in the same state?
dmazyn said:
Well I did the update with root disabled with rootkeeper but now rootkeeper will not restore Root.
I guess I should of read thi before updating
Anyone in the same state?
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If you are SBK1 device you can flash CWM via NVFlash, use CWM to flash SU binary from ChainsDD (located HERE ) and then flash the stock recovery if you so choose to return to stock recovery (in case any patches or incremental updates come out you may need this if you want to stay stock ICS).
ONE MORE THING BEFORE I GO GUYS;
I just noticed that ICS brings a new recovery as well, so the update will overwrite your recovery, I assume it will do this if you figure out how to flash via CWM so be prepared for that. Any devs will want to work on removing the recovery blob from the patch file before releasing as a CWM flashable zip. My 2 cents. See you guys in a few hours/days, depending on how addicted I get to ICS.
Your dlpkgfile didn't work.. i need the WW version
Anyway I've rooted with nachoroot with stock asus recovery, waiting for ics update via FOTA
asder00 said:
Your dlpkgfile didn't work.. i need the WW version
Anyway I've rooted with nachoroot with stock asus recovery, waiting for ics update via FOTA
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You need to reflash with a US version not WW.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
Confirmed working! thanks. too bad i have to go straight to work
Dreamboxuser said:
You need to reflash with a US version not WW.
Sent from my Sparkified TF101
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Ur right but i prefer to wait for ww
luna_c666 said:
Yep, that's all I had to say, but if I posted in any of the ICS threads it would be buried.
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After I updated to ICS, OTA Rootkeeper gave me the option to Restore root. Under the status section, Device rooted and Root permission granted were both unchecked until I used the Restore root option.

Red ! when trying to go into recovery after OTA ICS upgrade?

Quick question for the guru's... I just realized that I can't get into recovery since doing the OTA ICS upgrade and rooting. I have both Acer Recovery Installer and ROM Manager, so I'm guessing I'll be fine using either to install a new recovery, but was curious if doing so would impact being able to get future OTA upgrades or not? I've done custom ROMs in the past, but I'm sticking with the stock OTA and rooting them at the moment and just wanted to double-check that a new recovery (or installing clockwork recovery) won't impact future upgrades.
Thanks for any advise!
JM
OK, I gave it a couple weeks - so I've got to give it a <bump> at this point.
Any advise?
Thanks!
JackMetal said:
OK, I gave it a couple weeks - so I've got to give it a <bump> at this point.
Any advise?
Thanks!
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I will assume you have stock bootloader? (the one that came with the OTA)
First off, don't use ROM Manager. It's for phones. Although it runs on tablets, you run a high risk of bricking your device if you use it.
Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM.
As far as future OTA, it will not effect the ability to get one provided you are running a stock rom. The only thing, when taking an OTA, you will lose root and recovery. And, there always is, as with any OTA, a risk the OTA will fail.
MD
MD, Thank You very much for the advice. While sitting in the airport with delays yet again, I finally had time to check the forum. Yes, I still have the stock boot loader. I am very glad you mentioned NOT using ROM Manager, as that was the method I was leaning towards using.
I'll take a look at Civato's guide this weekend (if my flight ever leaves and I can make it home).
Thanks again for the advice!
Moscow Desire said:
I will assume you have stock bootloader? (the one that came with the OTA)
First off, don't use ROM Manager. It's for phones. Although it runs on tablets, you run a high risk of bricking your device if you use it.
Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM.
As far as future OTA, it will not effect the ability to get one provided you are running a stock rom. The only thing, when taking an OTA, you will lose root and recovery. And, there always is, as with any OTA, a risk the OTA will fail.
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Moscow Desire said:
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Secondly, you have to be rooted before installing CWM. The most important is deleting the "boot-recovery" file located in the /system directory. Otherwise, whenever you boot your tab, the CWM will get overwritten. Instructions for this can be found in Civato's bootloader guide in the Dev section. Pretty easy to find.
There are also some handy apps, like After OTA for example. Like AcerRecovery, you should be able to install a CWM on your tab. I would use EZTerry's Public Recovery or Thor ver 1.7.3 CWM...
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blackthund3r said:
Quick point dibb, you can't flash a bootable recovery without a patched boot loader, but you can install recovery without rooting (although if it's stock the ROM will overwrite the recovery)
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original discussion from afterOTA thread

[Q] Do I have to unroot 4.3 to get the OTA?

I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
gbarayah said:
I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
gosku26 said:
Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
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Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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I would like to keep my settings if it's possible.
gbarayah said:
Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
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What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
gosku26 said:
What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
gosku26 said:
Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
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Glad I could help. In the future, as long as you don't modify the system by flashing any modifications, you should be able to get the OTA update to install. Root doesn't affect this, and if you're worried about it, you can always uninstall it.
I opted to update using the stock zip files that were posted above and it worked just fine for me.

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