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How satisfied are u with X10?

i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?

I have had a long list of handsets every single version of blackberry, iphone and this is my first android for about a week now and I'm really happy with it. It's a project phone to me, always finding new things with it and the apps and personalizing it are endless.
Quality of apps are not as great as the iphone but it's still a VERY new platform and getting better by the day.
Hardware wise I'm very impressed, very speedy, impressive camera quality and I'm pretty picky, 9/10 for form factor, could be rounded or something. Robust little device and I hope it's not outdated for at least 8 months.
looks 9/10
quality 8.9/10 - screen scratches easily, voice quality is great
hardware 9.9/10
overall I'd say 9.2/10 compare to an iphone of 8.9/10

i do like the phone a lot. with better software or onceroot is availible it will be worlds better.
camera is great wish it had a flash though. screen is great and big for typing.
not overly happy with battery life but after reading a few suggestions it is better.
once a firmware upgrade is out and an upgrade to a more recent version of android my mind might change more in favor of this device. right now it gets an 8 out of 10
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I have just upgraded from X1 to X10 and I'm very impressed with the device.
Major drawback is low volume during calls.
Pluses definitely outweigh the minuses and the snapdragon 1 GHZ is lightning quick.
My opinion is go for it, you won't be disappointed.
Don't forget we are on first gen firmware which can only improve.

Nocturnal310 said:
i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?
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Ha~~ You are ask in right place,
I'm also upgrade from X1 to X10
Android is better than WM = =", Even my X1 use custom rom and faster than stock rom a 300%, but WM still lag, still ....ooxx
And My colleague have MileStone, Nexus One, Hero
But all colleagues want to get X10 when they see my X10 and play it a lot
Milestone is best for Rooted use, but slower than X10
Nexus One also have the latest firmware, rooted etc..benefit but is this really important???
Hero... actually not the same grade
I want to said X1 to X10 you can feel much better improve, actually when you jump from WM to Android you can feel it
Milestone VS X10
Outlook: I guess X10 is better but MS not bad, but MS heavy
Phone Feature: MS win, better speaker, clear and loud, also the IM volume is clear and MS have CrystalVoice, X10 speaker low, and the most important is the IM volume is very low.... MW600 is your friend = ="
Stylus: X10 win, the custom of the X10 and UI, Userfriendly is X10, But MS also can improve by Apps
Performance: slower than X10
Nexus One VS X10
Outlook: I think 99% people said X10 win
Phone Feature: I think is draw, Nexus one have Noise Cancel, but in the real world this feature seem not really good as Milestone, and the volume same as X10 still low
Performance: Faster than X10
Conclusion:
My choice is X10, even I played the Milestone and Nexus one and hero also
X10 is a very union product, you can feel this is the Sony phone, not like the MS or Nexus one, just only a Android
When you use X10, you will see many place has been modified and make the stylus in one "Sony Stylus"
Even the outlook and the UI you can see this is the phone which not like just only buy some band, and then the outlook is like a soap and UI alway HTC = ="
The Better Video Play back and the best camera on Android "like DC"
If you want to play the PHONE, you use MS or Nexus One
If you want to show up, use the PHONE, then X10
HA... when I goto street and show off the X10, many people watch my Phone, wow... what is this phone?? the outlook is very good, big screen and slim
Stylus: Still same as MS, it can root and improve the UI from apps

I too upgraded from X1 to X10, the X10 does feel 10 times better than the X1 (hence the name..?)
The reason why I picked X10 is almost the same reason why I picked X1 last year; the looks and the hardware. X1 was quite a powerhouse when snapdragon wasn't available in the market. However as you and I'd agree, X1 isn't a dream machine as we thought. The lagginess and lack of supports from SE quickly turns me off.
Picking the xperia series phone again wasn't an easy decision for me, it feels like I'm going back into the SE trap again. But I reconsider because of the improvement offered in the X10, 1Ghz, big screen, android, and still has the sexy appeal. I have been watching the phone closely for a year ever since there were leaked information on the internet, and reviews after the phone was finally out and eventually, hold my breath and clicked 'Buy Now' on eBay.
X10 is just like the X1, it isnt as impressive as the spec look like. But the difference is its more impressive than the X1, just not as exciting as you might expect. X10 will still give you the 'lag' experience especially at the animations department. To a some people the laginess is unacceptable due to the fact there is a 1Ghz cpu in the house. To me who came from X1 is acceptable because I've seen the worse.
Also believe me or not android isnt as mature as the windows mobile. There are quite a few basic functions the android lacks like task manager etc, and the dialler feels weird (press power button to reject call...?).
So if you still havent made up your mind yet, this is the factors I think you should consider
-are u a physical keyboard person? (I am, but I do not mind virtual keyboard either, I'm currently typing really slow on the phone, and without physical keyboard, u cant do 'blind typing'. I used to type my messages walking on the street without looking at the screen)
-are u a 100% sucker of graphics and animation? sure timescape looks impressive, but not an essential. And u need good looking profile pics of ur friends frm ur Facebook or twitter account to make timescape looks good. Most of my Facebook splines are showing only my friend's nose and lips due to their profile pics, makes my whole timescape look like a joke.
-can you live with android 1.6 until Q4 2010? X10 is my 1st android phone and I have not had the privilege to played with 2.1. So I'm not spoiled from the comfort of 2.1.
-can you live with single touch screen?
-do you expect the phone to perform as fluid as iPhone? IMO I have not seen other phone which can perform better than the iPhone at the animation department (HTC's Sense is pretty close). I personally do not want an iphones cause I've got an ipod touch, apple's control freak, and too many people has it.
And finally my rating! 9/10
Sorry for the long post but I hope I helped, because I have gone through the same decision making ;D

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Nocturnal310 said:
i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?
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Obviously depends on what features you really care about regarding your mobile phone, but OVERALL I think HTC's Desire is hands down the best phone on the market right now. I firmly believe the X10 could be, but in all honesty it could be until November until its potential is fully realized--pending promised firmware and OS updates.
So if you want the best phone,
Right now--HTC Desire
This year--Evo 4G, Samsung Galaxy S, maybe X10!
Satisfaction -- 7/10 X10 Overall -- 8.5/10
Some regret yes -- high cost, questionable updates from SE, poor battery life
X10's performance is not up to N1 or Desire, but other features and potential is why I bought it.

raundown said:
I too upgraded from X1 to X10, the X10 does feel 10 times better than the X1 (hence the name..?)
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Lol yeah, its 10 times better than mine which I stopped using after a few months, went back to my P1. I gave my X1 to my nephew in Srilanka and he loves it.
raundown said:
(press power button to reject call...?). ;D
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Ah thats why some callers are gone when I try to get my phone from back jean pocket
Veeeeeery happy thank you !! From what I was using (P1) 10/10 (what doesnt have a couple of niggles anyway ??)

Very, 9.5/10

Pretty damn satisfied, 8.5/10 (but I'm very difficult to satisfy)
Pros: too many to list, it really is an awesome device.
Cons: while I understand SE's philosophy behind the slow software releases, it doesn't make up for how SLOW they are at releasing them: 6+ months for an update to be customised & tested by them is unacceptable for a top-end device. In all honesty I've found no major issues to WANT the software update, but there are enough to make it a desirable thing to happen.
But, overall, it's a damn nice looking device and it works very well.

I'll give it 8.5 from 10.
Battery life is fine after a week or so when you stop pushing the phone limits
I mean, is a smartphone with 1Gig CPU and 4" display... you can't expect the battery to last 4 days like a dumb phone
If you use the smartphone, 12h battery is super.
If you turn everything off and use the phone (but i don't see the point) you can get 2days or more.
Design + UI, 10/10...
I don't care much about mediascape but timescape does the job.
Call volume ... i have no idea i use MW600 100% and is loud enough.
1.6 vs. 2.1 ?
2.1 will be nice but 1.6 will do it.
I was waiting for Galaxy S until after reading hundred of posts about Samsung "upgrades" i gave up.
Yes, will have a better display and divx/xvid support but Samsung has a bad habit to put new phones on market instead of supporting their old models so, pretty much you are stuck with what you buy.

I came from X1
Don´t buy a X10. Take a HTC instead. I give 2/10. I hate my X10. Poor hardware. Bad integrated hardware buttons ( bad to handle ), sad USB ( on the left????) No MT, bad Battery, POOR earspeaker quality and not loud enough, NO Sence.
What i hate most:
The Dialer
The Phonebook
The Call Log
The "Back" Hardware Button. Bad to reach. Need always to keep atention the X10 is not falling out of my hand. Why 3 or 4 hardware buttons? what did Google think when they did Android???? I hate also the iphone BUT there you have everywhere a "back" tab.
Instead of building TS and MS, SE should make a better usable interface like HTC ( Dialer..../ Sense) and EVERYWHERE a "Back/Cancel" tab.
AND i cant stand with the "select text" method in Android. That is bull****. Why not make it like it is on every computer ( and WM): wipe with your finger and the long press on the selected text and choose between cut, copy.....
i am thinking to change my X10 to a HD2 BUT THIS has no trackball
the perfect phone has a Trackball/ DPAD and maybe(!) two (good to handle) hardware buttons: Dial and Dial end/cancel
but there is no such phone on the market....
of course thats just my opinion ( but there are only 2: my opinion and the wrong opinion )
the last 4 weeks i made a list what i love on my X10 and what i hate: 2 things i love, 43 i hate. The list is a 17(!!!!) pages long word document and every page is FULL. The list took me about 50-70 hours, NO CHOKE!!!! I would post it here but its in german and to translate it would cost me again lots of hours.....

Best phone I have ever owned and I have owned the following phones in the last year:
iphone 3G
HTC Magic
HTC Hero
Nokia N900
People talk about lag but I have seen none. Best battery life of the bunch, too.

instigator008 said:
Best phone I have ever owned and I have owned the following phones in the last year:
iphone 3G
HTC Magic
HTC Hero
Nokia N900
People talk about lag but I have seen none. Best battery life of the bunch, too.
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iphone 3G - i understand THAT!!!
HTC Magic - ? i think its much better than the X10
HTC Hero - ? i think its much better than the X10
Nokia N900 - i dont know this phone

I'm happy with it I went form the X1 to the X10 and have been a Windows Mobile fan for years. It's taking some getting used to but i'm getting there.
Battery life was a pain until I disabled Timescape and several other services.

well i would say i was very frustrating, waited for so long since the phone advertise, here in DUBAI we don't have marketplace inside the package but you can see the box there is marketplace icon weird!!!!!!!!!!!... the only thing that you can enjoy your android is to get some useful apps in the marketplace.... yet there is a word "debranding"and some of frnds manage to debrand there androids in UK version and they have this apps could MARKETPLACE..... but i want my phone to be a virgin as new with out debranding it!!!
rate 5 out of 10....

i only miss multitouch as i upgraded from hd2 which has very good multitouch ,i now returned to hd2 as my primary phone ,as i also hate android 1.6 i give it (4 out of 10) and hd2 (8 out of 10 )

My previous phone was iphone 3G, but with android phone I´m very satisfied!
Look 9/10
Functions 8/10 (missing camera flash, and divx support and a little MT)
Overall 8,5/10
Cons: low call volume (but I have MW600 and with it its great), for that price X10 can have stereo speakers, speed of releasing future updates (hope that SE will release updates faster... 2.1 in Q4 2010 wtf ??!)

XPERIA ARC vs IPHONE 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZj5Z2whIE

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Nice comparison.

Always impressed by the speed of iOS's browser against Android's, but I believe that's due the flash-support in Android's browser ( ads and stuff )

Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
Cheers/M

How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
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im_iceman said:
How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
Sent from my X10 using XDA and Swype.
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Sweden always has stuff from Sony Ericsson before any other country, and many review samples have been distributed.

Indeed, mine is a prototype. Have had it for a month now and still very very satisfied. Especially in view of the price ;-)
Cheers/M
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i think XPERIA ARC is the same as IPHONE 4 speed, look at an other video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGjoOSDCCw

the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!

senaps said:
the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!
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It's not that the battery's quality is not good, it all depends on the processor and the applications used.
remember that Android has true multi-task, so many applications are running in the background. Unlike iOS which closes everything to save battery.
2.2 and 2.3 seems to work well in terms of using less power .

Howz the battery consumption of arc compared to x10?
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McHan said:
Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
Cheers/M
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I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849

vladuz976 said:
I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849
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I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.

CarbonX13 said:
I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.
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I have the Arc. I have no idea why that person's phone is slow. I certainly don't have that issue.
And yes I also have an iphone 4, which i have happily handed over to my wife.
I honestly believe the Arc is hands-down the best phone you can get right now.
And please don't bring up samsung phones. Their build quality is crap. To be honest, Arc's build quality is still not up to Nokia or Apple levels but its a lot better than Samsung and good enough for me.

agree. after resetting my arc, it became lightening fast. I don't know what was wrong, but I am in love with it now.

I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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gavriel18 said:
I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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Apple build quality is generally pretty poor. Their cases hold up physically really well (you rarely see them actually falling apart even after serious abuse) but the reliability of their electronics is shocking - i've lost count of the number of friends that have sent ipods/iphones back, and dont get me started on their headphones - i think they last about 6 months per pair. The plus side is that they do tend to replace faulty kit pretty rapidly without question.
I think people convince themselves apple kit is well built because, hey, they must be paying all that extra money for *something*, right? Kind of like how if you tell someone a bottle of wine is expensive they will prefer the taste to the same bottle if you told them it was cheap.

On the whole, is the Arc worth it? Opinions...

I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?

Obviously every phone is different so some ones would reboot and some wouldn't. Mine doesn't everything works for me perfectly, the only thing thats bugging me is that development isnt doing too good, in not complaining cause I know it will come eventually cause the phone hasn't been out that long. I would go for tho phone 100% I cant find anything wrong with it so and ice had it for over a week now
Hope this helps u
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Mine is up for 550 hours without reboot.
It speaks for itself.

Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)

Well, you are @ arc forum. most people like their phone per details they were looking for. On the other hand, you have to sort out your important facts which you are expecting from your next phone(which varies from one person to another).
Problems you have listed don't appear for everyone, whether I have been lucky with phone or not, I have never encountered issues like that with any of my SE phones.
Your best bet is to go to store and compare list of phones that you are interested side by side and see what makes you happy. but as far as me being an arc owner, I should say that satisfies my needs and I have not yet had any issue with it as everything is solid and moving forward.
I have to say, this phone is exactly what everyone requested from SE to make. Update hardware, software + get rid of all the SCAPES(which is sort of optional now and not integrated anymore) I just love this + possibility to have unlocked bootloader on certain models. What else can you ask?
just my 7 cents

im_iceman said:
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
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And huge battery drain from stock camera app.
For 720p recording you can give up image stabilization feature for well-synced audio. For camera you have yo use 3rd party camera app like vignette.

I think this says it all - the Arc is the best single-core handset in the world.
That isn't to say that the Arc is without it's foibles; there are a few things could be better and it's a shame it lacks certain features like a front-facing camera or NFC but the pros outweigh the cons.
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.

Im also very interested in this i own a x10 and have some questions.im thinkin bout it but just dont think is worth getting . The x10 is unbrickable. Its getting custom kernels that are undoin SE's crap. Plus arc doesnt have any custom roms yet And i like the size and desighn of my x10 . And tthe x10 has a pretty strong xda community
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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rtblittlebrown said:
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.

Step666 said:
Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Thanks
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Scott_HKR said:
I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
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Congrats on being the owner of W995. To me, that's the best non-smartphone without touchscreen ever made
You will definitely be very very happy with Arc. There could be something better depending on your needs but you can't go wrong with Arc and I think Arc is currently the best looking phone for my taste and I think it almost feels as good as W995 ;-)

Step666 said:
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
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Why? Because its dual core? That means absolutely nothing! Dual core is not even needed these days. Galaxy S was an over hype phone imo, ditched it in about a week to get back my X10, and the Galaxy S2 will be the continuation of Samsungs over hyped nonsense.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.

Step666 said:
You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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I simply stated the galaxy s didnt do a damn thing better or faster than what the x10 already did. Regardless of its specs vs the X10....it was over hyped.
*edit* sorry, the galaxy s video recording destroys the X10.
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Yes, my mistake - you claimed they were basically equal which is still extremely questionable.
I'm not a Samsung person, I think TouchWiz is a horrific, iPhone-y, designed for and by 5-year-olds joke of a UI. And I think the Galaxy S is a cheap plastic PoS handset.
But it blows the X10 out the water every single day of the week - better screen, better CPU, more RAM, much more internal memory, better stills and video camera in my experience, better software support/upgrades (which is saying something given how poor Samsung are at that).
The Galaxy S2 is simply the best handset in the world right now, not only on paper but every review/hands-on with it says the same thing.
It's not just the dual-core CPU, though as time goes on that will definitely be a huge advantage over the likes of the Arc; double the RAM, a better screen (ok, a little less clear-cut than the difference between the Galaxy S and the X10 but it probably still edges it based on little things like viewing angles), significantly more internal memory, larger battery, better video camera - it's even thinner than the Arc!
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
I'm not saying the Arc is a bad phone, it has genuinely wowed me and I really didn't expect it to but there's no point kidding ourselves that it's living on borrowed time before it's left behind.

Step666 said:
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
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Well, it's an advantage, but I'm a bit conservative when it comes to say huge advantage. Benchmark is great; But, it's an intensive number-crunching process most of the time. IMO, that deviates what I (and probably most of the users) use my smartphone for. I don't use my smartphones to calculate Pi, audio/video editing, etc.
I think dual-core will be shafted by quad-core even before the mass-adoption of the technology by the app developers.
I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.

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I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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That's the one good thing Samsung have done with TouchWiz (apparently).

Hi
I shall make an amendment to the agreement with my mobile op. and I am wondering whether SE Xperia Arc is a good choice. I have always use Nokia phones and I thought to buy Nokia N8, but I when I saw Arc I've changed my mind. Arc design and mutlimedia possibilities are great, but when I read about battery draining, lags, vid/audio sync problems I am not happy about it.
I am wondering if SE will fix this problem soon? Are these problems only software or maybe it is hardware failure? Do you think it will be repaired soon? When the next software update is expected?
Please help me to make a good choice.
Thanks a lot

hi.. battery drain is seemingly caused by a couple of software issues.. camera and google maps.. both of which should be fixed/ fixable.
lags - not seen many/any reports of lag.
video/audio sync - short term fix is either to use fwvga or try switching image stabilisation off. long term SE should be fixing that.
next update from SE expected in the next couple of months..
Sent from The Arc!

Thanks
I have only a liitle knowledge of Andoid system so tell me If I root my phone is it possible to remove google maps and camera soft? Will it help? Or maybe this is possible without rooting the phone?

Beast SGS2 vs Sensantion

i had sensation as second phone so i would like to share my feelings.
I purchased this flagship from HTC having HTC desire S, and also HD. Desire S is owned by my wife atm and she is happy enough. so i like HTC - thats for start
First feelings - impressed- nice phone. Got it - charged to full and lets rock!
Booting and starting to check out system. after 1 hour with screen on + wifi my battery went down to 35% - i say ok its the first cycle lets wait. - after one week its the same. if u wanna watch movie in plane while flying for about 2 hours u better take spare battery - not saying there is no divx support at all.
- keeping sync on gmail and just stand by eats the battery about 10% a hour! not touching the device at all.
-i though ok, lets live with pure battery anyway. but then it started. while holding the phone in landscape - death grip is saying HELLLOOOO i am here! loosing conectivity is normal - wifi disapear - signal went down 2. amazing. i coudlnt believe it. i had never suffered from anything like that -talking about HTC.
-web browsing - no hardware acerelation at all means opening web sites with heavy flash content is taking ages. not mentioning zoom in or out during the stream. while SGS2 can keep streaming during the zooming interval without any lags or issues! i was disapointed a badly. i can see small plus with the resolution - u can feel small diference - i mean better - sharper pages. but not brigther or lighter - the display is so reflective that u can use it as mirror and using the phone under direct sunnlight is almost impossible. so one more +handy mirror
someone rings you? hm how can u hear the phone if the volume set on max is extremly low - even my dog cant hear it!!! if u wanna share some youtube video with your friends they gotta put thems ears on the back panel in order to enjoy it. another disapointment - a big one. not speaking about the quality of the speaker (poor anyway) its about the noise level - being extremly low.
i said ok i like HTC so lets find something i can like/enjoy and finally be happy about.
camera/compare to SGS2 is a bit disapointing again. double flash doesnt help. i could paint better pics then sensation can make. i mean it.macro? what is it?
so i kept going and trying - still searching with hope i will like something.
i though ok i will use it as gps navigation in car at least. lol what a fail. after 4 hours on gps battery dead! maybe i am gonna develop double car charger 2in1 in order to keep sensation alive.
no i am not HTC hater at all. but the huge disapointment that HTC made this time is deadly bad. They made nice looking compact device without brain. its like ferrari with skoda engine and seats from seat. i though it will bring something extraordinary and special - even after installing costum roms - the battery improved and speed 2 - not browsing speed and the battery went up from 8 hours moderate use to 8 hours and 10 min - not mentioning juice defender on at all the times ofc.
so i just changed the sensation on local advertising web site for another SGS2 - u set the add and then meet the possible costumer in person.
and i told the guy that i made the deal with him - lets exhchange hurry - and now i will tell u what u did. U could see his frozen face! He become my friend now and after having almost all previous HTC devices he said he wont come back untill something better will be developed - on HTC side.
SO happy days guys here. And just small tip - sensation is the only one device getting closer in terms off hardware to SGS2 - but the reall power of SGS2 is deep in THE SKY!
I hope this will help some people with doubs about battery life and performance issues.
Once again - i have nothing against HTC and i like them, but i believe they didnt set up sensation well atm. looking at stats list it should perform much better then it does. just quick example - i dont like quadrant or bench tests once its fast and smooth i dont need any bench to confirm that. but the highest i could get from sensation was 3400 on quandrant with 1600 OC!!!!! lol
so i will end this with words;
HAPPY BRIGHT DAYS WITH SAMSUNG
forgive me for my broken english

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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.

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if u dont have anything constructive to say better dont do it - advice for your future life!

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The Sensation is seeming more and more like an interim flagship. The E3D already has more RAM and from everything posted Sense 3.0 is a pig and needs all it can get. The Vigor on Verizon is going to have a full 720p display and a 1.5ghz processor. The Holiday on AT&T is going to have a 4.5" qHD display and also 1GB of RAM. By the end of the year the Sensation's going to be forgotten.
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hm i gotta check it out.

I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though

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I've only just recently jumped onto android after owning every iphone, the sensation was a handset I was considering but reviews put me off.
The two things that made me avoid it were the lack of amoled, and the apparent locked bootloader.
I never got round to playing with a sensation as the store had no demo models.
I am happy enough with my galaxy s so far though
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yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.

Hunteres said:
yeh the bootloader is locked but u can find already few nice leaks on thems forum(sensation forum on XDA). not saying GO FOR IT but honestly at its price range and with its performance better buy SGS2 or stay with SGS1.
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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....

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How long do you think the galaxy s 2 will stay top end for?
I know technology moves quickly but I just hope I made the right decision and there's not a better phone coming out next month or something....
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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.

honestly i believe u can use SGS2 for about an year - untill another companies will reach its level. and SGS2 will last on the top untill SGS3 will be released. and the date inst confirmed yet. but SGS1 is still a good phone. if u dont have enough money or dont wanna waste it just stay where u ar and wait for bargain to upgrade.

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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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Thanks.
That's one thing I find overwhelming coming from apple phones, android has so many handsets running so many different versions of the operating system.
With an apple handset you're pretty much fine for a year, though you have to put up with the restrictive nature of ios.
Ah well either way I'm going to try and keep hold of this handset for 12 months, unless something really tempts me to "upgrade"

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Future life? I don't believe in reincarnation
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Lol... epic...

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Not every one on these forums is a native English speaker. Go easy on the guy

I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.

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I appreciate the OP's comments as I have been wondering how the HTC sensation fares compared to the SGS2. I also find it funny that the HTC battery seems to be a little worse than SGS2 especially given the complaints by some SGS2 users about battery life. I can watch about 5 hours of video on mine no problem.
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I have the Sensation as well and the battery life on it is pretty bad. On the SGS2 with moderate to heavy use I get about 16-18 hours. WIth the Sensation it's a miracle if I get 10. There are two things about the Sensation that are better than the SGS2 and only one is of any practical significance. The first is the HTC keyboard. The auto-correct function on the HTC device is excellent and is far better than Samsung's stock keyboard. The other is weather. No one comes close to what HTC has done with their weather UI. It's nice eye candy but that's about it.

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If I had to guess, I'd say either a SGS2.5 or SGS3 will be out before the holidays. The Nexus 3/Prime is supposed to be out in October and the advances I mentioned above in the two HTC phones will probably prompt Samsung to release something higher end. Think about this though. They just updated and are continuing to sell a version of the SGS1 and it's been out for over a year. So the SGS2 may not be state-of-the-art by Christmas but it should still very much be current.
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I wouldnt know what to feel if something new and better comes out before the end of the year, If they are going nvidia quadcore (Kal-El) then its highly possible they are gonna out a 720P screen as its been in production already.. I wonder if they improved anything aside from bumping the res.

The SGS1 was the fastest phone for almost a year when it got released. NOTHING from the competition could compare when it came down to pure specs last year.
The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
I would say that the SGS2 will probably not be trumped until early next year. The Nexus Prime will probably have similar innards as the SGS2

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The Desire HD and iPhone 4 were the closest competition, and the SGS1 always won out in benchmarks and in IRL usage.
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iRL usage there are some few aspects the the Iphone4 is faster but other usage scenarios the S1 was faster and was even far more functional than the Iphone4.
Im pretty sure Iphone5 will be targeted to compete with the S2, Infact I even wish the Iphone5 would be better + faster in the majority of tests so that Samsung and Google can hurry up ang release the S3 and ICS.

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Made sense to me... Just read.
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Pros/Cons of U8800

Hi there, this is my first post and I have an interest in this phone. Can owners of this phone please briefly state the pros and cons of this device as it would be a real help for me (and others) to decide whether I purchase this phone or not.
I will create a list in the next post weighing out all the good and the not so good features of this phone.
Thanks in advance!

List of Pros/cons
The list so far:
Pros:
- Great value
- Very fast 2nd Gen Snapdragon CPU which is easily overclockable
- Adreno 205 GPU (very good graphics)
- 512mb RAM
- 2gb Internal memory
- Large 3.8" WVGA screen
- 3g / HSDPA / Wi-Fi b/g/n / Bluetooth / GPS
- 5mp Camera with 720p HD recording
- Parts are cheap to replace (batteries, chargers etc.)
- Feature packed
- Decent battery (personal preference)
Cons:
- Bulky
- Not the best aesthetics (personal preference)
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory and Poor touchscreen/multi-touch implementation)
- Android 2.2 (However, you can easily flash a stable 2.3.5 Rom)
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei[
- Branding (I'm being picky )

only thing i could call a con and that's really stretching it is it's relative bulkiness.

No dual core

Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.

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Actually Android 2.2 is pretty old already, that would be a bad thing. But we already have a stable 2.3.5-ROM so it is no big deal at all. Not the best aesthetics? I think it looks pretty expensive if you ask me. The galaxy s of a friend of mine does not look any better than the u8800. As far as I know the camera is not that great, and the megapixel do not provide any information about the quality (my old camera with 3MP makes better photos than any phonecamera, simply because it has a real object lens and a bigger sensor).
In my opinion the real advantage of this device is that you get the speed of devices that cost twice as much. Of course those devices have a much bigger screen, do not forget that.
There is one situation in which the processor will be too slow: Playing some n64-games; for example Zelda - Ocarina of time is not really enjoyable. Also the screen is almost too small if you do use the touchscreen-controls (you can use a ps3 controller).
Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
If you have the money for the u8800, go get it. If you have slightly more money you can go for a used galaxy s. I would have bought the galaxy s but I wanted a phone with 2 years warranty. If you have a lot more money you could be a galaxy s 2 for example, it will have a dualcore (no problems with emulating n64, that i can assure you) and a bigger screen.
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Thanks for your input. Updated list accordingly.

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Lack of prestige? You gotta be kidding, right?
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Just to clarify, from lack of prestige, I meant it as if somebody asks you what phone you have, and you say Huawei U8800, they'd probably think that you have a cheap chinese model. It's not really a big thing for many people but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Pro:
- Good specs for the price
- Good battery life on 2.3.5 (unofficial)
Con:
- Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
- Real problems with official Froyo Roms, which should have never go out on the market with so many bugs/issues (not going to sleep properly, unstable wifi etc etc)
- No official Gingerbread support, even Huawei actually owns the 2.3.5. license
- Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei (if you have an issue, they replace the handset and you get an identical handset with the same problem)
I would like to say, that this phone would have been one of the biggest fails on the market, if there was no support from excellent developers.
It's only because of people like Dzo, Stockwell and Genokolar, that I didn't throw this phone in the bin.
Huawei is fresh in the phone manufacturing industry and this handset reflects this aspect loud and clear. This is why no one really heard about it...

huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry

darkado said:
huawei is everything but fresh in the phone industry
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I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...

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I said phone manufacturing, not telecommunications (I know that they are major manufacturer of WCDMA backbone and access network elements), there is a small difference...
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Thanks for your input. It's very disappointing that you get such a great value smartphone which is spoiled by basic features and low quality components. I'm really doubting if I should get this now.

everybody has a set of pros and cons on this phone, and i dont think its a good idea to make ur buying/non-buying decision purely basing on others comments..
for me, its only mattering "pro" is the high price-performance ratio..
(and one more now, after seeing such an active on-going development effort to make this phone better..)
and no "con" at all (as this is what i expect from a product of this price..)
thus if u think single-core cpu is a "con", no official support is a "con", little brand recognition (outside china) is a "con", u can alway pay a few bucks more to get dual-core, famous-branded models..
and honestly speaking, this phone is indeed NOT intended for everybody..
its just not as idiot-proof as iphone (as with most android phones..), not as good-looking (to some) as sensation, not as ego-boosting as sgs2, etc..
but its definitely easier to hack with, to manipulate with, and to brick with (not sure on this point though, as more flexibility does not necessarily imply easier brickability..)..
imho, its more suitable if u r the kind of person who would like to play with android instead of just using it..
as usual, the above represent my opinion only..

OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.

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OP, just tell us what you are looking for and how much money you want to spend.
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Between £150 - £200 is my budget. The U8800 is more towards the lower end of my budget and as I can get it at that price brand new, it is quite appealing. However, you can get other phones like a second hand Galaxy S for a bit more while still being within reach of my budget.
What I'm looking for is killer hardware as well as a good community which makes the phone easily hackable and 'tweakable.' Regarding the U8800, it has exactly what I'm looking for at the price point but if it falls short of basic things like the touch screen, then what can you do. Being a previous ZTE Blade owner, I was extremely impressed as basic functions were not sacrificed.

There are a lot of people that switched from the Blade to the U8800 and are quite happy it seems. I think you do not have much choices here - luckily. You can either get the galaxy s or the U8800, as you already said yourself.
If the galaxy s is in a good condition and if you can live with a phone that has no warranty anymore, I'd say go for it. For me, none of my phones ever had any hardware-problem, so I could have easily bought all of them in used condition.
It is just that buying something off ebay is risky. I do buy little stuff there every now and then, but no expensive stuff - if the seller just lies about a "little" problem and you want to return it, you probably won't see your money again. If a friend of yours sells you his used galaxy s, take it. That would be the best choice in my opinion. Either get a galaxy s that you can inspect and try out before you buy it or go for the u8800.
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Low quality components (crappy Bluetooth, Mic, Camera, Internal Memory - big but useless without hacking)
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Bluetooth was reported to be problematic, yes; some people reporting it to be fine (I just use the headset sometimes and it works perfectly well). Mic also works perfectly fine for me. Camera is not as good as with other handsets, yes. It takes 10 minutes to make the memory useable, but I admit, what Huawei did there makes not even sense.
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Real problems with official Froyo Roms
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Froyo does not matter to me as it already is old and I would not recommend anybody to buy this phone if he wants to install Froyo.
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No official Gingerbread support
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That with Gingerbread is a shame, right now I hope for support in the future. Worst case: You won't get the new features... but: it works fast and stable already, so you won't miss more than the new features (whatever they are and will be...).
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Lack of knowledge/customer support from Huawei
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Instead we got the community. As long as everybody stays here at xda-devs or at modaco we will get support. When everybody leaves in one year or maybe in two, then you are pretty much f...on your own. On the other hand, in a year all the problems should be sorted out.
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Exactly, and now it is a fast and stable phone with android 2.3.5 - at least for me it works perfectly well.

Noob here....
I have this phone and bought it about 3 weeks ago. It's my first smartphone and did a little research on the reviews.
From my perspective, being a total noob, so far I've been really happy with the X5. Sure, battery life is horrible and the camera could be better but I've managed to take some nice shots and some OK video. For me it's great to have this capability in my pocket and liberating to be able to catch up on the day's news and podcasts siting by the pond in the backyard in the morning.
Strangely perhaps I haven't been having problems with the reported wifi problems nor any problems with the Hi Suite software from Huawei.
I have had a couple of little glitches but nothing a quick re-boot hasn't fixed.
My first android has exceeded my expectations but I come from a point of nothingness.
Towards the end of it's 1 year warranty I plan doing all what seems to be the fun things to do like rooting and other fiddling around
Even after reading about the X5 shortfalls I'm still happy with what I have and don't feel inferior at this stage.
I bought the phone for $AUD260. Have spent around $25 on apps and around a further $25 on accessories...like extra mini USB cables for my various stations where I can charge the phone, a in-car charger just in case, a case and some screen protectors.
I've been having fun on my X5 and that's what it all comes down to for me.

seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
so it may only use 2G data service in North American

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seems this phone doesn't support UMTS 850/1900Mhz
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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
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Sure, battery life is horrible
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Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.

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Someone said that he got an answer about that from Huawei and they told him they just forgot to write this on the description page... someone could try it out to make it clear.
Hold on, I get 2-3 days of standby when I do only use the phone for about 1 hour calling per day and about 20-50 sms per day. If I play n64 or something it lasts a day, maybe another half day. Actually this is the best battery life I ever encountered with a handset. I use 2.3.5 which seems to have a good battery management and SetCPU has 245min and 806max, scaling conservative.
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You're exaggerating with 3 days... The most I ever got on this phone is 51h and that without using it at all, mostly on stand by the whole time...And I've tried ALL Roms available till today.
I'm 100% sure that NOBODY got 72 h of this phone.
You probably didn't had many phones and don't have a good term of comparison...This phone has average battery life and only on Gingerbread Roms. On any Froyo Roms, you'll be lucky to get 20 h out of it.

Pros:
If you can root it and install a good ROM, it can become really fast, faster than many android phones (except dual core).
Very nice price.
It seems expensive and has a really sturdy exterior. The screen crystal is also very hard and resistant to scratches.
It is fully featured (sensors, very nice screen, high resolution, etc).
I had not the slightest problem with any of its subparts (bluetooth, GPS, camera). (Maybe I am lucky, though).
If you root it and install a good ROM, video recording becomes very good.
If you dont play with it all the time, battery lasts for one day or two.
You catch friends with iPhones 1 and 3G looking at it with envy.
You catch friends with iPhones 4 looking at you with envy, as soon as they hear its price and find out about the prices of apps at android market. (They paid for many of the apps you will get free).
Cons:
As with all smartphones, if you play demanding 3D games, in 2-3 hours you will need to find a wall socket (so this is not really a con).
Something with the multitouch doesn't seem perfect. I don't know why.
It's not an iPhone.
It has not a dual core CPU.
It's not a tablet.
If you are amongst some friends with iPhones, you will still not have one.
Conclusion: I am very happy with the X5. My wife wants to steal it from me, and she plays with it all the time. She already has finished many games on it (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Diversion, Cut the Rope and others). I managed to read two books on it, while on vacations.
It was a good buy.