http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZj5Z2whIE
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Nice comparison.
Always impressed by the speed of iOS's browser against Android's, but I believe that's due the flash-support in Android's browser ( ads and stuff )
Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
Cheers/M
How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
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How do you have an arc? They've not released it yet have they?
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Sweden always has stuff from Sony Ericsson before any other country, and many review samples have been distributed.
Indeed, mine is a prototype. Have had it for a month now and still very very satisfied. Especially in view of the price ;-)
Cheers/M
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i think XPERIA ARC is the same as IPHONE 4 speed, look at an other video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuGjoOSDCCw
the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!
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the only thing i think maybe! iphone wins in,is battery! iwish sony made us a good battery!
nice comparison!
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It's not that the battery's quality is not good, it all depends on the processor and the applications used.
remember that Android has true multi-task, so many applications are running in the background. Unlike iOS which closes everything to save battery.
2.2 and 2.3 seems to work well in terms of using less power .
Howz the battery consumption of arc compared to x10?
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Very good. I have both phones but use the Arc as my primary. For me Android, with widgets, proper file-management and ability of doing things with the phone without always having to asking Job's permission, will always be a hug advantage. And now with the Arc, that is as fast as the iPhone and has an even bigger screen it is a total win. I'm not saying Android or the Arc are fault-free, but they're pretty damn good, both of them!
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I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849
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I wish I could agree, but I can't disagree more.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14111849#post14111849
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I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.
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I have no problems with my Arc. It's just you.
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I have the Arc. I have no idea why that person's phone is slow. I certainly don't have that issue.
And yes I also have an iphone 4, which i have happily handed over to my wife.
I honestly believe the Arc is hands-down the best phone you can get right now.
And please don't bring up samsung phones. Their build quality is crap. To be honest, Arc's build quality is still not up to Nokia or Apple levels but its a lot better than Samsung and good enough for me.
agree. after resetting my arc, it became lightening fast. I don't know what was wrong, but I am in love with it now.
I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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I'm not so sure apples build quality is that much better. I dropped my iPhone 4 from about 3 feet and the screen cracked. My x10 got kicked, yes kicked about ten feet. I put it back together and it worked fine. Just a little dent in the corner
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Apple build quality is generally pretty poor. Their cases hold up physically really well (you rarely see them actually falling apart even after serious abuse) but the reliability of their electronics is shocking - i've lost count of the number of friends that have sent ipods/iphones back, and dont get me started on their headphones - i think they last about 6 months per pair. The plus side is that they do tend to replace faulty kit pretty rapidly without question.
I think people convince themselves apple kit is well built because, hey, they must be paying all that extra money for *something*, right? Kind of like how if you tell someone a bottle of wine is expensive they will prefer the taste to the same bottle if you told them it was cheap.
Related
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
I upgrade in 2 weeks, I'm sold on this! iPhone killer
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http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
I upgrade in 2 weeks, I'm sold on this! iPhone killer
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Thanks for the link, nice review. Waiting for my device to be shipped in a week's time
Yep. Nice Review. I just hope Samsung starts to ramp up production of these babies to send to the US already.
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http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
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Awesome Review!! Cant wait for this phone!
it's 1am in Sydney and I've stayed up and read the review, now I can't sleep because I keep thinking about the gs2, just a week or two that's all I have to wait, anyone want to buy a second hand ip4 lol
its funny that one of the comments claims that the iphone 5 will be much better than the sgs 2...
sgs 1 even beats iphone 4 hands down and the diffrences between ip5 and ip4 is most likely just another camera
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its funny that one of the comments claims that the iphone 5 will be much better than the sgs 2...
sgs 1 even beats iphone 4 hands down and the diffrences between ip5 and ip4 is most likely just another camera
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read up on some rumors - iP5 will be thinner, slightly bigger edge-to-edge screen, dual core CPU, and I am sure a bunch of other cutting edge features. Apple is a respected power, can't deny that.
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Nice review, thanks for the link!
Still, nothing more than a dedicated blogger could do - Where are the measurements?
Wifi: maximum range and throughput over range
Cell radio: quality of GSM / UMTS reception in known good and known bad spots
GPS: TtFF cold and hot, accuracy over time, both stationary and moving; comparison to a reference standalone GPS, ...
Audio: freq response, noise floor, harmonic and non-harmonic distortion, stereo crosstalk etc.
Screen: brightness (min and max), contrast, color accuracy
Camera: see any decent digicam review (but they did have full-res shots, yay!)
I'm not saying build a testing lab, but once upon a time the difference between an amateur review and a professional one used to be the testing equipment and methodology employed.
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thinner, edge-to-edge screen
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Thinner, I don't know, it's gotten a bit ridiculous by now. The phones are getting hard to hold as it is. Same for edge-to-edge - where am I supposed to hold the thing? Even with current gen phones I manage to obscure the screen or even trigger something with my hand.
So I think we're golden!
Great review, cant wait!! Its also funny how the mention they havnt been this excited since the HTC Desire, which is the phone I'm about to replace with the GS II haha. I guess I have a good knowledge of smartphone's since its a big hobby of mine
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Great review, cant wait!! Its also funny how the mention they havnt been this excited since the HTC Desire, which is the phone I'm about to replace with the GS II haha. I guess I have a good knowledge of smartphone's since its a big hobby of mine
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Don't get me wrong - I love my desire but I think its a bit overrated by the techradar guys=)
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lol. i chuckled when you said iphone killer. this thing obliterates the ip4. now ip5 is going to be a tough battle, but i think the "smarter" users will agree the sgs II will be better. From where i stand though, the only thing iphone keeps killing android is with extremely user friendly ui, especially how gorgeous apps look on the platform. Has anyone seen the dj app for ipad. i mean you cant get better than that. And secondly, the apps availability, android has maybe 50 good games, while iphone has over 500..same with regular apps.
I hope android starts focusing less on (sorry to say)useless features like live wallpapers and focuses on making the dev kit more polished like apple. Hardware wise, theres no doubt the sgs2 is a monster.
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Don't get me wrong - I love my desire but I think its a bit overrated by the techradar guys=)
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I don't know.. for its time the Desire was a "beast". I have a friend with an iPhone who said he loves the Desire, first phone besides the iPhone he considers. It was a very balanced smartphone, good price/quality etc.
Though 1 year later, it looks lame against the SGS II haha
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I don't know.. for its time the Desire was a "beast". I have a friend with an iPhone who said he loves the Desire, first phone besides the iPhone he considers. It was a very balanced smartphone, good price/quality etc.
Though 1 year later, it looks lame against the SGS II haha
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It could have been an even better device if not hampered by hardware problems like the multitouch bug and lack of internal memory. Nonetheless its no doubt one of the best android phone in 2010.
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It could have been an even better device if not hampered by hardware problems like the multitouch bug and lack of internal memory. Nonetheless its no doubt one of the best android phone in 2010.
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Agree + the GPU that sucks. Internal memory is easily fixable though.
Unfortunately, apple can't afford to simply "catch up" with their android competitors. They need to come up with something new to make people feel "special" just because they have an iphone. After all, Apple has always been about making you feel like you were part of a VIP club when buying their products.
Eagerly waiting for Engadget's 7/10 review..
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Eagerly waiting for Engadget's 7/10 review..
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"On the plus side it's the best phone ever.
On the negative side it doesn't have a partially eaten shiny fruit on the back, so -2 points"
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"On the plus side it's the best phone ever.
On the negative side it doesn't have a partially eaten shiny fruit on the back, so -2 points"
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Well - 2 would have given a 8/10, you forgot the main negative point :
=> iPhone 5 might be better - 1 in advance
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On the negative side it doesn't have a partially eaten shiny fruit on the back, so -2 points"
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I know the negatives already:
-Plastic
-Still not best DPI
-Uninspired UI skin with quality issues
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I know the negatives already:
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-Still not best DPI
-Uninspired UI skin with quality issues
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-GPS seems to be better than SGS1 but we still managed to get lost in out underground New York City garage
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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While I think the GS2 has better technical specs than the SE, I think the overall design of the Arc is much more unique than that of the GS2. I also find that the Sammys tend to be more plasticy (if that is a word). Additionally, I don't think apps (and the OS) have been optimized for the dual core processor in the GS2.
What the GS2 has going for it, is a front facing camera (which should have in the Arc too) and an unlocked bootloader! Those two might tempt me to pick up a GS2 to play around with.
You should have waited for S2 instead of buying Arc What specifications S2 was going to have, was published on every mobile site since S2 was announced
I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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+1 well said..
SGS II is also ~150 USD more expensive than the Arc.
With the rapid growth of GPU and CPU for mobile, IMHO, spending your every pennies to get the top line of these hardwares every couple months is not worth it. It will get depreciated very quickly. And all the values left would be:
1. design and built quality
2. battery life
3. functionalities
Arc's beautiful design and 8MP camera + exmor r, however, will stay on top of the line for quite a while
(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
I don't think the Arc is in anyway now going to be forgotten about.
I was initially going to wait on the S2, but it was going to cost me about £150 on the plan I'm on, where as the Arc was free. Not really bothered about the dual core CPU as it runs more than fast enough as it is. Front facing camera I don't care about as I'm never going to use it (don't think many iphone users do either as it only works on wifi). The feel and quality of the S2 is way way way below that of the Arc too.
So still well happy with my choice.
Dazza
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So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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I just purchase Arc from Japan knowing it's long been outdated. Even several months old Atrix's has killer specs compared to Arc. I still went for Arc mainly because of it's styling.
I want to wait for GS2 but the styling doesn't appeal to me and not having LED notification kind of killed my desire for it.
With Android handsets, by the time the phone you desire hits the market, there is another killer one coming in a month. It's hard to keep waiting. But, I will move to GS2 if it looks better outside than it is in pictures. But, I doubt Samsung can make anything as attractive as SE phones . Just the SAMSUNG logo kills it for me
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Could not agree more!!! Well said!
LOL I agree, it has monster specs but it is FUGLY! Arc and IP4 are MUCH better looking..
SGS2 is definately amazing phone specs wise. There's no denying that. I was going to get SGS2, but got Arc instead. I just wanted to get rid of my iPhone.
Arc looks amazing, works very well and is fast. SGS2 is faster and has better screen, but Arc actually does everything I need currently. I think Arc is enough for me the next 2 years. There will always be new stuff coming, but there is no real need to change every 6 months.
SGS2 will probably be the king until SGS3. But it doesn't make my Arc bad. Actually my Arc is excellent
A phone with better specs than the Arc has been released, so what?
It was bound to happen at some point.
What I really don't like about the galaxy phones is how they look and feel like previous versions of the iPhone. Seriously, the tipping point for getting the arc over the other phones is its unique style. Do you trade off specs and performance for style? Not really. But I don't see the need to pay extra when I can get something that I want and that pretty much caters to what I need.
If you want to be future-proof, get the SGS2 - it might be the HTC Desire of dual-cores with its potential long life. Give it a couple months more and a few more dual-core phones will come out. Will you be wanting every new phone with better specs?
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(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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+1 on that
I think you guys are stuck with arc. And couldn't afford sgs2 so why bashing it? And quality on sgs2 is way better than arc. Only thing arc has is camera and Hdmi 2.3 and slim other than that same as x10. I don't see how and why people bought the arc
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I could afford to be choosy when opting for a phone I liked the arc so got the arc you can to through life upgrading everything tvs pcs cars houses phones but there is always something bigger and better round the corner so just enjoy what you have
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well, i was on the fence between both phones but ended up with the arc, its just an awesome phone, super fast, even in the browser, which i was surprised.
the x10 was trash, but now that sony is giving it 2.3 it makes use of all of its hardware. so its actually a pretty good phone now. the arc of course is way better.
dual-core wouldnt really be as future proof as people are making it out to be....unless ofcourse your idea of future proof is about 6ish months long till the next big thing comes out....and didnt nvidia already map out quad-cores? which means the wait for 2.5+ would be needed since 2.4 will take advantage of the dual-cores.
coming from an atrix, the only real noticable difference in speed comes when you open certain apps, and even then...the difference is by about...1, maybe 2 seconds? so until android can utilize dual-cores, a single core phone done right is fantastic.
*personal preference here*i love sony's screen for movies and pics vs Samoled. cant comment on Samoled plus but the over-saturation and fake colours on the galaxy S phones drove me nuts :/
so those are some of my reasons for getting the arc over the Gs2.
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+1 on this.. lol..!!
Doesn't look like double cores have any real advantage right now, something really better for the user. Unless you're counting any second after app launching.
It's definitely the future but I wouldn't pee in my pants because of that right now.
SGSII is probably awesome. However has inferior design, inferior UI (for me of course) plus the fear of quality. And Samsung software doesn't seem polished ever. SGSI had issues AFAIK and just look at their WP7 problems story.
Im planning to get a new phone, the infuse or g2x which one should i pick...i still love my x10 (
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G2x over the infuse definetly. The dual core processor is awesome and its fast, awesome screen, and one of the best out there
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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Now here is someone who knows what he's talking about....
You'd be stupid to buy an arc right now imo.
SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
Impresive responses, thank you guys!
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wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
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Ever heard of advise?
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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1 second faster?? lol
Where are you getting these numbers?
Also, 1 second of speed for a cpu makes a hell of a difference, one second of lag vs. one second of no lag.
It is 2-3 times more powerful and has at least double the quadrant score and linpack.
The cpu/gpu is a current gen vs. an outdated one.
You can think whatever you want, but electronics is my job/field.
The sgs2 is far more advanced than the arc.
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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precisely...
the dual core chips (MSM8660/Terga2) were already available they should have atleast kept the "Flagship" phones i.e. the Arc & Play with latest hardware and kept the rest on single core (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
BTW i already have the Arc, its a beautiful device but not really that powerful...
still like my X10 with all the dev thats going around... its challenging
I have ordered a S2 and will recive ut in about 2weeks. It. Will be my first phone that is not a sony Ericsson.
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The SGS2 has definetely some lagg. But not as much as on arc. Fanboys My next phone will be a quadcore from HTC If it comes haha!
I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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Haha, that's one way to look at it.
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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Wait til you see the new handsets You might throw your X10 away right away Some nice features incoming...
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
ClubDownforce said:
I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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i completly agree man.some people gonna whine anyway.even if you gave them quadcore 5000CPU with aderno290 they are gonna whine like kids
Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
I must say that i have been really disappointed with my x10 since i bought it 15 months ago... The thing is that the phone has potential but SE fails to incorporate that in the generic rom (specifically fps uncap). Im currently using wolfbreak which makes the phone bearable and even enjoyable. My issue is that you have to "fix" the phone yourself. With the SE generic rom this phone is a piece of junk.
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KeizBaby said:
What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
xdadevelopers1222 said:
Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
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Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
zeus09 said:
Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
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My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
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Number two also an issue on the Desire!
Yum, even though I'm not using custom ROM but I find this phone is very good. That's all.
OmegaRED^ said:
My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
kurble said:
Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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NON of the so called basement roms has the stability of stock rom! I've tried PLENTY of costume builds, z's kernel, and the only 2 things i actually found usefull in the long run was fps uncap and JIT back on 2.1.. Sure many homebews may be snappier but they all suffer from fc's and memory bogging forcing you to reboot your phone every now and then to keep it snappy.. I NEVER had to reboot a stockrom.. I clean the junk out of app-wise and use fps uncap, thats it. And thats what works best.
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scoobysnacks said:
It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
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That phone seems to be able to handle any OS your throw on it and do it well lol. Its a true super phone lol.
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I really like this phone. Its not the best out there but for price its great. Probably the thing I like most is just how easy the Modding side is compared to Samsung galaxy's or HTC phones. My dad has a dhd and honestly, I prefer the x10. It just feels better to me
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I had an Xperia S for a week. And I hated it. So I got my arc S back and I couldn't be happier.
If you're ever tempted by an Xperia S - don't do it. It's just not good enough.
Why?it is faster,and screen is much better.
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I tried xperia s and find it heavier, worse picture quality, worse design and i missed the physical buttons. So i stick with arc S, still my fovorite so far.
I felt the build quality was poorer than the arc. Wasn't as big a step forward as is claimed, tbh.
isnt the dual core do nothing for it??
I was all for getting one, until I had one in the hand, two big for my liking. I really want my next Phone to be Sony, but if they continue the trend of creating bricks like most manufactures seem to be doing these days then I'll stick with my S.E and I might just upgrade to the Arc S.
I don't want a mini tablet as a Phone.
Wait for the GX guys, it's true Arc successor.
I'm waiting for SX to replace my Ray
I think 4-4,3 inch is the limit for the smartphone. Everything above is... tablet. Arc S is good enough for me.
I think the bigger a phone the better, I thought the xperia s looked good in the pictures but when held it irl it feels fat and the bezel looks really thick (big turnoff). But I'd still go for performance over design.
Sent from my Arc S with JJ's ROM installed + stock kernel.
What I didn't like:
Soft buttons are terrible - often takes 2 or 3 taps for then to work. Very frustrating.
Terrible battery life on the latest ICS F/W.
Heavy and uncomfortable to hold for long.
Bravia engine doesn't work on latest ICS F/W.
Power Saver app completely useless.
Sony UK refusing to repair screen tint issues if you've unlocked the bootloader.
Occasional hang when using the Quick Launch camera button.
Fonts too small for me - and using Large option only works in some apps and is ignored by Timescape, etc.
The flap on the USB port won't last long.
Stupid menu design for the launcher.
Widget picker takes 5 seconds to appear.
This phone looks great on paper but feels half-finished to me. I can see why the reviews were so lacklustre now.
So I'm back using my arc S which I will keep until I've saved up for a Galaxy Nexus. Sony have done a poor job of ICS and I they no longer have my trust. Why can't they produce a couple of excellent devices instead of releasing mediocre phones every few months? The mind boggles.
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
I find it ridiculous when people say " the bigger the phone, the better." Perhaps ego issues to compensate for something else ? Lol
Seriously, it is silly to put a tablet sized phone next to your eat. Just don't, please, for the love of god.
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Thanks for the review guys as my x10 is up for upgrade in 2-3 months time and was naturally thinking of this, I am a se fanboy.
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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zolaisugly said:
Not 100% sure what to do as I have arc already.
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I'd hang fire, I've got 8 months left on my contract so I've got plenty of time to see what Sony can come up with in the future. I was going to sell my Arc the other week and get a Ray as I was wanting something smaller but after some thought decided to stick with the Arc in the end. There's nothing that I really like when I look at line up on GSMArena, maybe the Arco S but I'd have to hold it before deciding.
rec71 said:
What I didn't like:
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Soft buttons ARE terrible, even calendar launcher(lower left corner) interrupts with user interaction.
a mid range / mid end device doing a very nice job. even hdmi output is surprisingly smooth.
well, fairly spoken I had no expectations with ics, even sony's official website claims that, I never understood that, why some people got confused with "improved" performance and "speedy" UI, they both are different things.
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
romiltherock said:
I disagree.
For its price... Arc/Arc S was a loot when it was launched.
I now own both an Arc and an Xperia S. No doubt arc is the best designed fone any manufacturer ever made, but it is way too short on horsepower. Even on gingerbread, the contacts app lags if you cross over 500 contacts. So does the messaging app.
Arc users keep dwindling and shifting around custom ROMS trying to find the perfect one. And we all know after a few days of use and installing chunk loads of apps, the fone just struggles to keep up as a BASIC PHONE (it runs applications well though).
Arc is indeed a great fashion statement but as a basic phone, even my dads ZTE Blade delivers better.
Xperia S is thicker but works like a charm! Wish it's speaker was as loud as arc though
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100% true. When I first booted JJHybrid 3.2 it was a rocket comparing to stock ICS. Now with few apps instaled (<30), everything lags, even keyboard, which should be one of the main things in phone. Looks like, arc S in my last Sony phone.....from now on I am 85% sure, my next phone will be Galaxy Nexus.
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rec71 said:
I did like the new Walkman app though - by far the best music player I've used on Android.
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You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
Traviizter said:
You haven't used Poweramp with the ICS skin, have you?
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp for about 6 months. I didn't like it much though but will take another look.
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
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Traviizter said:
It's much better than any other music app I've found.
how about mort player?
remember most android users are free bee :highfive:
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