I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
Obviously every phone is different so some ones would reboot and some wouldn't. Mine doesn't everything works for me perfectly, the only thing thats bugging me is that development isnt doing too good, in not complaining cause I know it will come eventually cause the phone hasn't been out that long. I would go for tho phone 100% I cant find anything wrong with it so and ice had it for over a week now
Hope this helps u
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Mine is up for 550 hours without reboot.
It speaks for itself.
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
Well, you are @ arc forum. most people like their phone per details they were looking for. On the other hand, you have to sort out your important facts which you are expecting from your next phone(which varies from one person to another).
Problems you have listed don't appear for everyone, whether I have been lucky with phone or not, I have never encountered issues like that with any of my SE phones.
Your best bet is to go to store and compare list of phones that you are interested side by side and see what makes you happy. but as far as me being an arc owner, I should say that satisfies my needs and I have not yet had any issue with it as everything is solid and moving forward.
I have to say, this phone is exactly what everyone requested from SE to make. Update hardware, software + get rid of all the SCAPES(which is sort of optional now and not integrated anymore) I just love this + possibility to have unlocked bootloader on certain models. What else can you ask?
just my 7 cents
im_iceman said:
Had mine since Mar 31st - and I love it.. had the X10 before and this is 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than that was!.. Had no real big problems with it.. only thing that people seem to consistently have issues with is a bug in the HD video recording which is causing the voice and images to go out of sync.. I'm expecting that they'll fix this in the next firmware release in June(ish)
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And huge battery drain from stock camera app.
For 720p recording you can give up image stabilization feature for well-synced audio. For camera you have yo use 3rd party camera app like vignette.
I think this says it all - the Arc is the best single-core handset in the world.
That isn't to say that the Arc is without it's foibles; there are a few things could be better and it's a shame it lacks certain features like a front-facing camera or NFC but the pros outweigh the cons.
It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
Im also very interested in this i own a x10 and have some questions.im thinkin bout it but just dont think is worth getting . The x10 is unbrickable. Its getting custom kernels that are undoin SE's crap. Plus arc doesnt have any custom roms yet And i like the size and desighn of my x10 . And tthe x10 has a pretty strong xda community
Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Is there a fps cap
Does it do 16 m colors
Hows the camera what kind of camera
Hows the battery life
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Not sure, not that I'm aware of.
Yes.
Exmor R backlit-CMOS sensor - same sort of tech Sony use in their proper digital cameras. There are threads in the section with pictures taken by Arcs.
Battery life isn't great but on a par with other similarly-specced handsets I'd say
To be honest, you could've answered the bit about the colours and the type of camera by just looking up the specs.
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Scott_HKR said:
I am looking to upgrade my phone this week, going from a Sony Ericsson W995, and I am looking into getting the Arc. I have been set on it for weeks, but just read on the SE forums a few threads about the phone just randomly shutting off and not doing what it is meant to do.
I just wondered if people would recommend it or not, and if these posts are true or not?
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Congrats on being the owner of W995. To me, that's the best non-smartphone without touchscreen ever made
You will definitely be very very happy with Arc. There could be something better depending on your needs but you can't go wrong with Arc and I think Arc is currently the best looking phone for my taste and I think it almost feels as good as W995 ;-)
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It's all down to personal needs though, as well as what sort of deal you can get.
If you can get, say, the Galaxy S2 on the same contract/deal as the Arc, there's really no contest.
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Why? Because its dual core? That means absolutely nothing! Dual core is not even needed these days. Galaxy S was an over hype phone imo, ditched it in about a week to get back my X10, and the Galaxy S2 will be the continuation of Samsungs over hyped nonsense.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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You just claimed the X10 was better than the Galaxy S, I'm not even going to begin to waste my time arguing with you.
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I simply stated the galaxy s didnt do a damn thing better or faster than what the x10 already did. Regardless of its specs vs the X10....it was over hyped.
*edit* sorry, the galaxy s video recording destroys the X10.
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Yes, my mistake - you claimed they were basically equal which is still extremely questionable.
I'm not a Samsung person, I think TouchWiz is a horrific, iPhone-y, designed for and by 5-year-olds joke of a UI. And I think the Galaxy S is a cheap plastic PoS handset.
But it blows the X10 out the water every single day of the week - better screen, better CPU, more RAM, much more internal memory, better stills and video camera in my experience, better software support/upgrades (which is saying something given how poor Samsung are at that).
The Galaxy S2 is simply the best handset in the world right now, not only on paper but every review/hands-on with it says the same thing.
It's not just the dual-core CPU, though as time goes on that will definitely be a huge advantage over the likes of the Arc; double the RAM, a better screen (ok, a little less clear-cut than the difference between the Galaxy S and the X10 but it probably still edges it based on little things like viewing angles), significantly more internal memory, larger battery, better video camera - it's even thinner than the Arc!
So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
I'm not saying the Arc is a bad phone, it has genuinely wowed me and I really didn't expect it to but there's no point kidding ourselves that it's living on borrowed time before it's left behind.
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So no, it's not just because it's a dual-core CPU (though that alone would be reason enough to choose it if the two were the same price - if you think it's not a huge advantage, you're short-sighted or lying to yourself), there's a litany of other advantages.
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Well, it's an advantage, but I'm a bit conservative when it comes to say huge advantage. Benchmark is great; But, it's an intensive number-crunching process most of the time. IMO, that deviates what I (and probably most of the users) use my smartphone for. I don't use my smartphones to calculate Pi, audio/video editing, etc.
I think dual-core will be shafted by quad-core even before the mass-adoption of the technology by the app developers.
I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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I'm more excited on when GPU acceleration gonna be implemented in our homescreen.
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That's the one good thing Samsung have done with TouchWiz (apparently).
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I shall make an amendment to the agreement with my mobile op. and I am wondering whether SE Xperia Arc is a good choice. I have always use Nokia phones and I thought to buy Nokia N8, but I when I saw Arc I've changed my mind. Arc design and mutlimedia possibilities are great, but when I read about battery draining, lags, vid/audio sync problems I am not happy about it.
I am wondering if SE will fix this problem soon? Are these problems only software or maybe it is hardware failure? Do you think it will be repaired soon? When the next software update is expected?
Please help me to make a good choice.
Thanks a lot
hi.. battery drain is seemingly caused by a couple of software issues.. camera and google maps.. both of which should be fixed/ fixable.
lags - not seen many/any reports of lag.
video/audio sync - short term fix is either to use fwvga or try switching image stabilisation off. long term SE should be fixing that.
next update from SE expected in the next couple of months..
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I have only a liitle knowledge of Andoid system so tell me If I root my phone is it possible to remove google maps and camera soft? Will it help? Or maybe this is possible without rooting the phone?
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Hello guys I wana knkw which is better . Cuz when I post on desire forum x10 vs desire they all were x10 sux and stuff and and I also post x10 vs.vibrant they said the vibrant is better im trying to collect some info cuz im buying eithrr desire or galaxy s on monday orr should I keep the x10 and wait for 2.1 cuz I dont like the 1.6 and its been almost forever still no 2.1 on x10 I wonder if 2.1 will be available how nice x10 will be I just cant imagine it . So plz help me guys n wht u think and also would 2.1 would it.bring camera flash?
First of all 2.1 isn't going bring camera flash.. that's hardware related, and second why did you buy x10, when you knew it had 1.6 on it?
Flash:
Download Vignette from the market.
X10 vs Galaxy:
My mate bight a galaxy S two weeks ago and is already sending it in for replacement.
1.6 vs 2.1:
If you can't wait a few more weeks, then I highly doubt you'll be keeping either of those phones because of the compulsive need to always upgrade. Kinda defeats the purpose, really.
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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.
^ 100% Agree.
Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.
@htc fan89 i bought my x10 3 months ago i didnt had knowledge of android or what 1.6 was. i can wait 3 weeks or whatever but is it official that its coming this month or its just people saying it .
I'm just tried of people crying for 2.1...that's all
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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.
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Nicely put
We're always going to have the need to upgrade to the latest android smartphone just to get the full potential. It's a never ending cycle, and unfortunately I'm a victim. I think I will stick with the Xperia X10 since I've gone through so much with it and although it is my 5th Android phone, I've learned most about Android capabilities from the X10. It's a good phone, I'm sure in a few months something awesome will come in Canada and we all going to want it. I've tried selling my phone but the resell value is just ridiculous. I'll be sticking with the X10, even though I love Super AMOLED. I want to be around when the bootloader gets cracked.
What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz
Resale is about $300 cdn if that. Theres tonnes of them up on kijiji and craigslist.
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What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz
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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY
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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY
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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.
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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.
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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.
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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.
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I'm interested in the deverlopment as well. I think we're going to see a period of increased power, much like the Ghz wars of the past ten years. After that we're probably going to see more effort being put into better battery-life and increased portability. Much like Laptops are becoming the norm for computers I think Smartphones (or rather their descendants) are going to replace Laptops as the daily computing platform.
A major part of todays interweb users could probably switch from using computers to smartphones without losing any functionality. Just attach a larger screen and a bluetooth keyboard and you can Facebook, mail, surf the web, watch youtube, play casual games and enjoy media.
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Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.
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you got me all excited about this boomerang bouncy ball feature, then i realised that you were being sarcastic... devo
fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....
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fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....
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Hang on, below spec for version 3? You're whining over a recommendation, not requirement, for an OS update that will come out six months after the device was released? Sheesh, some people really need to learn how to have realistic expectations.
fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.
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fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.
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The support being **** isn't really fair, we've had more than one update every month that fixes a lot of issues so the support isn't bad. The outdated software has a point but the OS shipped with the phone is being updated and we're going to see a new OS in a matter of weeks.
OLED? I can go on for pages about it but I'll just mention two points. Sunlight and bad resolution.
It's totally crap in sunlight, even more so than any other screen I've experienced. I've tried to use the Desire in sunlight but even max brightness and shading it with my hand didn't help.
The resolution is crap. Period. Not only does it have a effective lower resolution when you use it compared to counting the actual pixels but it also makes text and high contrast graphics really blurry. If you have an oled display nearby I invite you to look closely at black text on white background on both it and a tft display and compare them. Even though the difference is smaller when look at from a distance many have complained that the difference, even though hard to notice from a distance, gives them headaches.
For me brighter colours don't make up for crap resolution. I'll gladly take fewer colors if it means that I can read on it and use it outdoors.
The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.
how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update
+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
Kiwi
And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.
oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
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Nope. No front-view camera.
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Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
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Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design
There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
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>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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While I think the GS2 has better technical specs than the SE, I think the overall design of the Arc is much more unique than that of the GS2. I also find that the Sammys tend to be more plasticy (if that is a word). Additionally, I don't think apps (and the OS) have been optimized for the dual core processor in the GS2.
What the GS2 has going for it, is a front facing camera (which should have in the Arc too) and an unlocked bootloader! Those two might tempt me to pick up a GS2 to play around with.
You should have waited for S2 instead of buying Arc What specifications S2 was going to have, was published on every mobile site since S2 was announced
I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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+1 well said..
SGS II is also ~150 USD more expensive than the Arc.
With the rapid growth of GPU and CPU for mobile, IMHO, spending your every pennies to get the top line of these hardwares every couple months is not worth it. It will get depreciated very quickly. And all the values left would be:
1. design and built quality
2. battery life
3. functionalities
Arc's beautiful design and 8MP camera + exmor r, however, will stay on top of the line for quite a while
(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
I don't think the Arc is in anyway now going to be forgotten about.
I was initially going to wait on the S2, but it was going to cost me about £150 on the plan I'm on, where as the Arc was free. Not really bothered about the dual core CPU as it runs more than fast enough as it is. Front facing camera I don't care about as I'm never going to use it (don't think many iphone users do either as it only works on wifi). The feel and quality of the S2 is way way way below that of the Arc too.
So still well happy with my choice.
Dazza
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So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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I just purchase Arc from Japan knowing it's long been outdated. Even several months old Atrix's has killer specs compared to Arc. I still went for Arc mainly because of it's styling.
I want to wait for GS2 but the styling doesn't appeal to me and not having LED notification kind of killed my desire for it.
With Android handsets, by the time the phone you desire hits the market, there is another killer one coming in a month. It's hard to keep waiting. But, I will move to GS2 if it looks better outside than it is in pictures. But, I doubt Samsung can make anything as attractive as SE phones . Just the SAMSUNG logo kills it for me
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(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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Could not agree more!!! Well said!
LOL I agree, it has monster specs but it is FUGLY! Arc and IP4 are MUCH better looking..
SGS2 is definately amazing phone specs wise. There's no denying that. I was going to get SGS2, but got Arc instead. I just wanted to get rid of my iPhone.
Arc looks amazing, works very well and is fast. SGS2 is faster and has better screen, but Arc actually does everything I need currently. I think Arc is enough for me the next 2 years. There will always be new stuff coming, but there is no real need to change every 6 months.
SGS2 will probably be the king until SGS3. But it doesn't make my Arc bad. Actually my Arc is excellent
A phone with better specs than the Arc has been released, so what?
It was bound to happen at some point.
What I really don't like about the galaxy phones is how they look and feel like previous versions of the iPhone. Seriously, the tipping point for getting the arc over the other phones is its unique style. Do you trade off specs and performance for style? Not really. But I don't see the need to pay extra when I can get something that I want and that pretty much caters to what I need.
If you want to be future-proof, get the SGS2 - it might be the HTC Desire of dual-cores with its potential long life. Give it a couple months more and a few more dual-core phones will come out. Will you be wanting every new phone with better specs?
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(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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+1 on that
I think you guys are stuck with arc. And couldn't afford sgs2 so why bashing it? And quality on sgs2 is way better than arc. Only thing arc has is camera and Hdmi 2.3 and slim other than that same as x10. I don't see how and why people bought the arc
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+1 on that
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I could afford to be choosy when opting for a phone I liked the arc so got the arc you can to through life upgrading everything tvs pcs cars houses phones but there is always something bigger and better round the corner so just enjoy what you have
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well, i was on the fence between both phones but ended up with the arc, its just an awesome phone, super fast, even in the browser, which i was surprised.
the x10 was trash, but now that sony is giving it 2.3 it makes use of all of its hardware. so its actually a pretty good phone now. the arc of course is way better.
dual-core wouldnt really be as future proof as people are making it out to be....unless ofcourse your idea of future proof is about 6ish months long till the next big thing comes out....and didnt nvidia already map out quad-cores? which means the wait for 2.5+ would be needed since 2.4 will take advantage of the dual-cores.
coming from an atrix, the only real noticable difference in speed comes when you open certain apps, and even then...the difference is by about...1, maybe 2 seconds? so until android can utilize dual-cores, a single core phone done right is fantastic.
*personal preference here*i love sony's screen for movies and pics vs Samoled. cant comment on Samoled plus but the over-saturation and fake colours on the galaxy S phones drove me nuts :/
so those are some of my reasons for getting the arc over the Gs2.
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+1 on this.. lol..!!
Doesn't look like double cores have any real advantage right now, something really better for the user. Unless you're counting any second after app launching.
It's definitely the future but I wouldn't pee in my pants because of that right now.
SGSII is probably awesome. However has inferior design, inferior UI (for me of course) plus the fear of quality. And Samsung software doesn't seem polished ever. SGSI had issues AFAIK and just look at their WP7 problems story.
Hiii!
I want to buy the SGS2, looks like a very nice phone to me. Have you guys found any bad thing on your SGS2, I don't care about how little it is, I just want to know it!
Is it a good choice to buy the SGS2, or should I wait for the improved version? I don't want to buy a HTC, since their phones are ugly!
At the moment I got a Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10, and I'm very happy with my phone. The camera is very very nice!
Well, I'm hoping for any reply.
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Rachelle
The sound quality is not so great if you compare with SGS+Voodoo or even iphone 4
Despite this fact I think this is the best phone that I have ever used. And I've used a lot of phones.
and no offense but when i used XPERIA X10 i thought its **** . U should definitely go for sgs 2 its 1000 times better than x10.
When you change to 720p or 1080p in video recording the whole picture zooms in and the video will be zoomed in.
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When you change to 720p or 1080p in video recording the whole picture zooms in and the video will be zoomed in.
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that doesn't make the video quality any worse, does it?
As you have an X10 I won't suggest you to update atm cause X10 is still a doable one. Use it for another 6-7 months till next MWC and see what comes out then.
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As you have an X10 I won't suggest you to update atm cause X10 is still a doable one. Use it for another 6-7 months till next MWC and see what comes out then.
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Thanks, I think I will wait then. For me the x10 is easily useable, much faster then the iPhone 4 I had, and also much better in every single way.
Also, someone here said something about that the sound quality is very bad, do you mean speaker or in-call or something else?
According to ithehappy's advise, I'm going to wait for 6-7 months ! But reply's are still welcome, because I can make other people happy with it
Are you kidding me? The X10 is one laggy POS, im guessing you havent used it
As far as today goes, the X10 isn't as bad as it used to be compared to how it was last year. The 1.6 and all the bloatware on it killed any potential performance the Snapdragon is supposed to give, and I will have to admit as far as Android phones goes, that was pretty much the worst one I've used.
Fortunately its boot loader is now unlocked and custom ROMs are now being provided, in addition of Sony Ericsson finally releasing Eclair for it. No software updates will make up for its deficiency, which is the lack of multi-touch controls. The hardware is nice; I've gotten many questions and inquiries about mine (I got the white one), but given the experience with it, I can't help but be skeptical about getting the Arc, Play or even the Duo.
I've had pretty much every GSM Android handset that has been released in the U.S., and the Galaxy S II definitely lived up to the hype. I had my Atrix on eBay by the same night that I received the Galaxy.
TRF-Inferno said:
As far as today goes, the X10 isn't as bad as it used to be compared to how it was last year. The 1.6 and all the bloatware on it killed any potential performance the Snapdragon is supposed to give, and I will have to admit as far as Android phones goes, that was pretty much the worst one I've used.
Fortunately its boot loader is now unlocked and custom ROMs are now being provided, in addition of Sony Ericsson finally releasing Eclair for it. No software updates will make up for its deficiency, which is the lack of multi-touch controls. The hardware is nice; I've gotten many questions and inquiries about mine (I got the white one), but given the experience with it, I can't help but be skeptical about getting the Arc, Play or even the Duo.
I've had pretty much every GSM Android handset that has been released in the U.S., and the Galaxy S II definitely lived up to the hype. I had my Atrix on eBay by the same night that I received the Galaxy.
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Uhm, the x10 bootloader is not unlocked, and there were already ROMs. Also 2.3 update is near for the X10.
Uhm, x10 is only laggy because of a FPS cap I read.
they should make the copy paste function easier like IOS
1080p zooms in which is an issue if ur trying to make a video in a place that is small
i have to click noise reduction everytime ( im not sure if it off or on ) i talk on the phone so people on the other line can hear me well ( i hope MIUI cm7 or an app would just make it off/on all the time )
touch sensitivity(required more movement than usual to make it react) which can be fixed ( seen an app that demonstrated it )
everything else ..... PERFECT
Frankly I think the display is a little too small. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with this beast.
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Uhm, the x10 bootloader is not unlocked, and there were already ROMs. Also 2.3 update is near for the X10.
Uhm, x10 is only laggy because of a FPS cap I read.
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My apologies for assuming that the boot loader was unlocked out of assumption that it had ROMs for it. I'm rather surprised that SE will continue releasing updates for it since I remember last year that they twitted that Eclair was to be the last update for that handset.
Regardless of that, 2.3 is not going to give it multi-touch and the lag issue I had was with the responsiveness of the system, not menu scrolling lags or game performance. I give every handset two weeks for evaluation, and since day one, I've had issues with the X10 in terms of wake-up, the hanging or freezing I get when opening settings or other applications, and sometimes not responding to initial input and requiring a second or third tap to open or select something.
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Frankly I think the display is a little too small. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with this beast.
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small ...... ???????????????
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My apologies for assuming that the boot loader was unlocked out of assumption that it had ROMs for it. I'm rather surprised that SE will continue releasing updates for it since I remember last year that they twitted that Eclair was to be the last update for that handset.
Regardless of that, 2.3 is not going to give it multi-touch and the lag issue I had was with the responsiveness of the system, not menu scrolling lags or game performance. I give every handset two weeks for evaluation, and since day one, I've had issues with the X10 in terms of wake-up, the hanging or freezing I get when opening settings or other applications, and sometimes not responding to initial input and requiring a second or third tap to open or select something.
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You got your reasons to say that, after owning this beautiful phone!
TRF-Inferno said:
As far as today goes, the X10 isn't as bad as it used to be compared to how it was last year. The 1.6 and all the bloatware on it killed any potential performance the Snapdragon is supposed to give, and I will have to admit as far as Android phones goes, that was pretty much the worst one I've used.
Fortunately its boot loader is now unlocked and custom ROMs are now being provided, in addition of Sony Ericsson finally releasing Eclair for it. No software updates will make up for its deficiency, which is the lack of multi-touch controls. The hardware is nice; I've gotten many questions and inquiries about mine (I got the white one), but given the experience with it, I can't help but be skeptical about getting the Arc, Play or even the Duo.
I've had pretty much every GSM Android handset that has been released in the U.S., and the Galaxy S II definitely lived up to the hype. I had my Atrix on eBay by the same night that I received the Galaxy.
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What was wrong with Atrix?
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What was wrong with Atrix?
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Truthfully, nothing besides getting a little hot at times. It just can't put up a fight against the Galaxy S II in any category; the Atrix has a higher capacity battery, but the battery life comes up short compared to the Galaxy. With my current usage, the Atrix would have to be on the charger by nightfall, but I'm able to get away without charging the Galaxy until at least noon by the next day.
I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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I agree, it's a great phone, especially after the 2.3 update. Is it the best? No. But it is very good for its age and it has been aging like a fine wine, just getting better and better.
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Haha, that's one way to look at it.
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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Wait til you see the new handsets You might throw your X10 away right away Some nice features incoming...
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The 2.3 update was I little flawed until Z brought out all the fixes. Now there is no need for an arc unless you want hdmi. X10i is still great. If mine broke today id buy another 1 since it seems to be the best android you can buy for the money
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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The display is not that great.. but the biggest(and one of the few) problems with the X10 is the crappy digitizer that it has.. one of the worst I've used
Other than that its great
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What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
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I mean... Given its age, its fairly responsive, the screen is big, albeit not 16m colors, the cam is very good, its been getting great signal for both voice and 3G, the battery life has been decent, and the media server app works flawlessly with my ps3...
I dont get it. Whats to hate? Its the cheapest big screen Android phone out there. Maybe I just like it because its holding me over until next gen hardware, or the next iteration of iPhone.
Discuss.
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i completly agree man.some people gonna whine anyway.even if you gave them quadcore 5000CPU with aderno290 they are gonna whine like kids
Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
I must say that i have been really disappointed with my x10 since i bought it 15 months ago... The thing is that the phone has potential but SE fails to incorporate that in the generic rom (specifically fps uncap). Im currently using wolfbreak which makes the phone bearable and even enjoyable. My issue is that you have to "fix" the phone yourself. With the SE generic rom this phone is a piece of junk.
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What is so crappy on the digitizer? Works fine here, with fps uncap almost iPhone like finger tracking.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
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Most consumer electronics have their 'make or break' window of opportunity during their launch period. That's when the marketing groups of the various companies start their advertising push and review units are sent out. If the reviews aren't good, people simply won't care about the product. Then as time goes on, no amount of additional advertising will prevent it from being forgotten about.
The X10 is a decent little smart phone. When it came out, it had some very competitive top-of-the-line features (1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 4" screen, good quality camera hardware, etc.). SE also touted its own UI and its custom applications (Timescape and Mediascape). Unfortunately, it was developed when Android 1.6 was around, and by the time it was released the competition was already moving forward with 2.1. The X10 simply could not compete when its software heart was a generation behind.
So most of the reviews tended to view the X10 as an average or mediocre smart phone. And with that, people didn't care about it.
But for those of us who thought the X10 had potential, I think we've all been rewarded for our faith. It's gone from a sluggish Android 1.6 device to a late but decent 2.1 workhorse and now to a winning 2.3 performer. Sony Ericsson listened to its customer base, and even though there were times it seemed like they would abandon the X10 and simply think of it as a 'learning experience,' they did the right thing and gave it just enough support to allow its former flagship to be sent off on a high note.
I bought my AT&T-branded X10a in the United States a few months after my girlfriend got the Sprint-branded HTC EVO 4G (HTC Supersonic elsewhere in the world). At the time, the EVO 4G got rave reviews and was considered by critics to be one of the very best. My X10 seemed to pale in comparison especially in performance. But with each SE update for the X10, things improved. Now with Android 2.3, the stock generic X10 build actually outperforms the latest stock Sprint-released HTC 2.3 update for the EVO 4G. For example, in Quadrant (if you care about such benchmarks) the X10 now consistently scores around the 1200 mark. Stock EVO 4Gs used to get scores like that when it was launched and when it ran 2.2 Froyo. But lately I've been reading a lot (and even tested my girlfriend's EVO to confirm) that the HTC 2.3 update has caused drops in benchmark performance where scores in the 900 to 1000 range are not uncommon.
The EVO 4G also has a 1GHz CPU, the Andreno 200 GPU, and a 8MP rear camera. I used to be jealous of its performance when I compared it to my X10. But now - with the exception of the EVO's 4G capabilities and front-facing camera - I think the X10 is better. We may not get multi-touch, or 16-million colors, or no FPS cap, but with our stock build, SE has given us useful features such as fully working and non-carrier-locked USB tethering and WiFi hotspot, streamlined custom user interface, and minimal bloatware. The phone may not be perfect, but given what the X10 is SE has, in essence, transformed the phone from an awkward ugly duckling to a capable graceful swan.
I look forward to using my X10 for quite a long time to come.
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Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
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Exactly i agree. The hardware/software and specially the design can compete most of the other smart phones out there, including stupid iphone4s. So ppl what is there to complain so much. With the GB update and all the tweaks around with custom ROMs its a better device than it was. Its far more better i should say. Lets take the maximum of this little baby b4 we move on to another device. So lets show the x10 some luv shall we
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My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Nope.. wrong...
1. It gets confused with finger placement for no reason what so ever.
When moving from a dual to single touch.
2. The dual touch cross axis bug.
Why did the chicken cross the axis? to get to the inverted side.
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Number two also an issue on the Desire!
Yum, even though I'm not using custom ROM but I find this phone is very good. That's all.
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My question is why the company that made the device does not do that.
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Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
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Exactly! The software side of SE is utter junk. Anyone that says anything else has no credibility when it comes to HCI. Myself having this as my major in grad school cry blood when i lay my hands on an x10 with the stock rom. Its actually sad that something being coded in a basement at home (god bless all these talented individuals) can outperform that of a multinational company.
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NON of the so called basement roms has the stability of stock rom! I've tried PLENTY of costume builds, z's kernel, and the only 2 things i actually found usefull in the long run was fps uncap and JIT back on 2.1.. Sure many homebews may be snappier but they all suffer from fc's and memory bogging forcing you to reboot your phone every now and then to keep it snappy.. I NEVER had to reboot a stockrom.. I clean the junk out of app-wise and use fps uncap, thats it. And thats what works best.
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It's alright..
There are things I like about it, but it has one of the smallest development sections I've seen.
I wish I had a htc hd2 actually, the dev section for that is amazing
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That phone seems to be able to handle any OS your throw on it and do it well lol. Its a true super phone lol.
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I really like this phone. Its not the best out there but for price its great. Probably the thing I like most is just how easy the Modding side is compared to Samsung galaxy's or HTC phones. My dad has a dhd and honestly, I prefer the x10. It just feels better to me
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