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[Q] Can someone extract an app for me?

Minecraft Pocket Edition was just released on the Android Market and is only available for the Xperia Play. I for one can't wait for the game, so if you are going to buy it can you please extract the .apk for other handset users? I'd really appreciate it and I'm sure others will too!

Problem is, if someone extracts the APK and shares it here, it would be considered as warez and shot down. No go there.

you should just wait for it to become available for your device.. it will soon..

Damn I forgot about that Oh well, I guess I can wait. I wish it was free since I bought the full game for PC. Thanks for your help!

Thanks for the up that it have been released!
*game bought*

It should've be free for those who bought the game on PC.

Geeve said:
It should've be free for those who bought the game on PC.
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Why do people keep saying that?? i should get this free cause i bought it from PSN, or pc blah blah blah, do you think the xbox 360 version should be free too lol

every time i see this guy post, he's always trying to be a hero.. well, name says it all..

AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying that?? i should get this free cause i bought it from PSN, or pc blah blah blah, do you think the xbox 360 version should be free too lol
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Yes, people who buy old games which have been amorticized more times than man can count should not be forced to pay YET ANOTHER TIME for the same content. It's what we call added-value. If you wish to pay time and time again for the same game, you're free to write a cheque to the company you want.
If it were for people like you, we'd have to pay for a song everytime we wish to listen to it in a different place: In the car, in the stereo player, In the MP3 player... Again, write cheques to those guys if you want, but let us consumers look for the best value, and demand the best conditions for our money.

Logseman said:
Yes, people who buy old games which have been amorticized more times than man can count should not be forced to pay YET ANOTHER TIME for the same content. It's what we call added-value. If you wish to pay time and time again for the same game, you're free to write a cheque to the company you want.
If it were for people like you, we'd have to pay for a song everytime we wish to listen to it in a different place: In the car, in the stereo player, In the MP3 player... Again, write cheques to those guys if you want, but let us consumers look for the best value, and demand the best conditions for our money.
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Nah thats rubbish, If i buy a GFWL, i can chat with my xbox live friends, get xbox live achevievements, and sometimes even play with other xbox live users, But i dont expect to be able to play the game on my xbox, cause i bought it for a diffrent format/platform.
Do you think people that make the emulators and games for sony ericsson do it for free?? so you think sony should pay for people to port a game for you just because at one point you bought the game for a few pounds off PSN?? that isnt the way the world works

narflynn619 said:
every time i see this guy post, he's always trying to be a hero.. well, name says it all..
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I'd rather be one of them, than a troll making snide comments for no reason

*Edit, double post*

AndroHero said:
Nah thats rubbish, If i buy a GFWL, i can chat with my xbox live friends, get xbox live achevievements, and sometimes even play with other xbox live users, But i dont expect to be able to play the game on my xbox, cause i bought it for a diffrent format/platform.
Do you think people that make the emulators and games for sony ericsson do it for free?? so you think sony should pay for people to port a game for you just because at one point you bought the game for a few pounds off PSN?? that isnt the way the world works
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The people who don't make the emulators for Sony Ericsson do it for free (desktop emulators like EPSXE or PCSX) or for little cash (FPSE, which costs the same as ONE game by Sony Ericsson). Plus, the content, as I said, is amorticized from dozens to millions of times. If the world works with Sony screwing up consumers it's because of consumers like you who like to be screwed. Sony will only do as much as we let them get away with. If consumers like you start to educate themselves (a hardly possible task) and/or get replaced with conscious consumers, we'll get no more killing OtherOS, no more killing retrocompatibility, and no more multiple-cash-ins for the same content. However, as long as people like you say that it rains when they're pissing on us, certainly Sony will keep malarkeying us.

Logseman said:
The people who don't make the emulators for Sony Ericsson do it for free (desktop emulators like EPSXE or PCSX) or for little cash (FPSE, which costs the same as ONE game by Sony Ericsson). Plus, the content, as I said, is amorticized from dozens to millions of times. If the world works with Sony screwing up consumers it's because of consumers like you who like to be screwed. Sony will only do as much as we let them get away with. If consumers like you start to educate themselves (a hardly possible task) and/or get replaced with conscious consumers, we'll get no more killing OtherOS, no more killing retrocompatibility, and no more multiple-cash-ins for the same content. However, as long as people like you say that it rains when they're pissing on us, certainly Sony will keep malarkeying us.
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Wow To be honest I spend more than the price of a PS suite game on my lunch, so it's not a big deal to me Obviously your opinion differs, and i respect that so i'm not going to get into a slanging match with you, no matter how pedantic you act.

You certainly do not respect my different opinion, or you would not call me pedantic. Anyways, I'm kind of seasoned in this kind of argument exchanges, and when I see that the other person has lowered the level of his/her discourse to insulting me or other people, I know that it means something.
Enjoy your afternoon

Logseman said:
You certainly do not respect my different opinion, or you would not call me pedantic. Anyways, I'm kind of seasoned in this kind of argument exchanges, and when I see that the other person has lowered the level of his/her discourse to insulting me or other people, I know that it means something.
Enjoy your afternoon
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Urgh! Get over yourself Logseman, your whole last post was one big insult towards me. Just because i dont expect everything for free. I work for my money and if someone provides me with a service or product, i do not mind paying them for there work either.

What about extracting the APK of the free demo?
market.android.com/details?id=com.mojang.minecraftpe.demo

Androhero stop it! You are just arguing and being off-topic, we don't need that.
Edit: @OP, here's the free demo version: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mojang.minecraftpe.demo&feature=search_result

I cant download demo to my transformer. So meaby someone can post there .apk

Seconded. Even if it won't work, I want it for... certain experiments I want to carry out.

End of life

http://se-xperia.com/o2-reduce-xper...you-go/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Only had mine for a few months I'm furious
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How is it the end of it's life? It's just another sales ploy. Look at the xbox 360. Thats been like half the price of a PS3 for like 2 years now. Yet the 360 have sold alot more units.
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Its discounted, that does not mean its end of life. In fact its discounted to heck here in the US, but still has a ton of advertising, and support by game companies is INCREASING. My guess is they want to get as many of them out as possible for the PS Suite launch, because all those emulated games are going to be pure profit for them. The more Plays in the wild, the more $5 old games they sell of which there is no distribution or overhead costs.

Hmm maybe a sales ploy! Been here before with products but I an more annoyed with me having paid more than double what the price is now after 2 months.
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Obviously they believe that the sale of this device can generate more income overall in sales of games.
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Deoxlar said:
Obviously they believe that the sale of this device can generate more income overall in sales of games.
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Console developers are famous for taking a loss on H/W as they make back the money in games.
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AndroHero said:
Console developers are famous for taking a loss on H/W as they make back the money in games.
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Yeah, games that tens/hundreds of thousands of people buy.
H/W with tight anti-pirate security.
The Play just doesn't fall into any of those categories enough to generate the aftermarket revenue.

AndroHero said:
Console developers are famous for taking a loss on H/W as they make back the money in games.
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DeadlyDazza said:
Yeah, games that tens/hundreds of thousands of people buy.
H/W with tight anti-pirate security.
The Play just doesn't fall into any of those categories enough to generate the aftermarket revenue.
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Lets think about that for a second. Because the Play DOES use an older hardware setup that arguably is probably a lot cheaper to make the most expensive part (the guts) than a newer Dual Core Device with the newest graphics chip.
So maybe the loss is small on these, and easily made up based on the contract kickbacks and eventual game sales.

AndroHero said:
How is it the end of it's life? It's just another sales ploy. Look at the xbox 360. Thats been like half the price of a PS3 for like 2 years now. Yet the 360 have sold alot more units.
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Stop reading US-only websites (or Microsoft propaganda), and you would know the PS3 is actually outselling the Xbox by some significant margin.... It's how they closed the gap and overtook the Xbox in total sales, despite launching 16 months later.
Also, the PS3 is not double the price. You can pick up a 160GB PS3 for £179...

Dont forget your ps3 3.55 cfw im sure that fw sold many systems alone

Black ops solt for about £45 when it was first out, now its what £20, These are just discounts to sell as many as possible, Will be back up to like £300 - £400 after Xmas

Not Xperia PLAY realted - Neo Geo X Release Date 12/6/12

Just in time for christmas. Heard about this late last year, January, this thing remind me of the Neo Geo pocket I had and loved in the late 90's and the Neo Geo I owned as a kid. Dont think I will get this but still its cool.....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/13/neo-geo-x-gold-release-date/
If I had the money just laying around begging to get one...... I dont know... doubtful seeing as how we can play these games on our phones now adays...
What are your thoughts on this device...?
Edit: Direct Link to Neo Geo X
http://www.neogeox.com/home.html

I think fans of the system will still buy it, and their games are worth buying if available at more affordable prices. Their offering seems good too, dock and classic joystick. But they aren't giving enough info and hypes to get people interested. I want to know if they are selling other Neo Geo games. What OS is it running, will it have WiFi and online market, etc.
Just because people can pirate it play it on their touchscreen, doesn't beat playing it with a real joystick and connected to the TV and SNK fans will appreciate it. They could reboot their console by selling all their games to the handheld this way, at reasonable prices. If its just the 20 old games that are preloaded, then there isn't much incentive to buy and it will fail.

eksasol said:
I think fans of the system will still buy it, and their games are worth buying if available at more affordable prices. Their offering seems good too, dock and classic joystick. But they aren't giving enough info and hypes to get people interested. I want to know if they are selling other Neo Geo games. What OS is it running, will it have WiFi and online market, etc.
Just because people can pirate it play it on their touchscreen, doesn't beat playing it with a real joystick and connected to the TV and SNK fans will appreciate it. They could reboot their console by selling all their games to the handheld this way, at reasonable prices. If its just the 20 old games that are preloaded, then there isn't much incentive to buy and it will fail.
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Yeah. I have done some searching and it seems its using a modified version of android. So most or all of the games are emulated. Still though.... this thing looks awesome and it's got the backing of SNK-Playmore which says a lot... especially when it comes to the thought of additional games. Its still 4 months away. Im sure we will see more info on it as it gets close. Needless to say I think it looks awesome, and I like the fact they went from a 3.5 inch to a 4.3 screen.
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Sony drops developer fees for PSM

Sony's dropped the fees to drive up support.
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/XperiaBlog/~3/3jkADRCUv5I/
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ozzmanj1 said:
Sony's dropped the fees to drive up support.
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/XperiaBlog/~3/3jkADRCUv5I/
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I remember reading this a few days back and thinking this won't make any difference.
Sony has to ask themselves why a developer would dedicate time and resources to their market place when there is already one with a substantially bigger audience to target? What does this one offer that others do not? The Playstation brand still has some clout with people but it doesn't have the level I think required to push Playstation Mobile (as is) on a mass scale.
Sony should look at investing more of their own time and resources before they come to expect it of developers. They should add PS Classics currently wasted on the Vita to drum up some initial interest in the concept, and obviously they can't rely on past games forever so they should lead by example and launch some new kickass titles themselves.
I was interested in Playstation Mobile before launch but what I've seen thus far does not interest me.

I added this to the comments on the link in post 1.
Gun Commando is the only decent game there, the rest are junk in my opinion. Installed PSM on my PLAY for about 2 weeks and deleted it. Here s a good move Sony, drop the damn $5 increments when you buy a game. I had $2 and wanted to buy a game that was $3. Sony makes you pay $5 so you then have $7, then if you dont spend it Sony still has your money. Its freaking horse sh!t and robbery of the worst kind. Shame on you $ony.
Perhaps its a bit harsh but the fact they take $5 increments only is robbery. Who wants to dump $5 just to get $2 for a game.... its asinine. In the world of the anti-christ in American Dad - "Smell my a$$"...... sorry just PSM was a huge let down, was looking forward to it and I dont even look at it... terrible. Although I do appreciate a certain member here in XDA XP who updated the thread for PSM each week.

It's going to be interesting, seeing as Sony doesn't allow free games (well, they must have DLC) on the store. While I agree on the audience front, I've enjoyed PSM development in a language I understand well and can take part as a hobby. Somehow, my silly Snake remake has sold over 700 copies!
PSM does have its flaws (no trophies/leaderboards/auto updates) but the messages coming out of Sony suggest they aren't giving up on it yet. However, in my opinion making the dev license free may not have the effect Sony expected; yes there will be an explosion in games but it's a question of quality (I'm not saying Snake is amazing, it has no sound and I'm still supporting it, but it's 79p) and whether Sony is going to actually support the platform.

We are stuck in this limbo called XPERIA PLAY

I refuse to live in a world where the only way to enjoy gaming with an Android device in public is by owning and old ass Xperia Play.
There are 0 alternatives to the Xperia Play.
All these pads that you have to carry in your pocket and attach/deattach look goofy as f*ck and are annoying.
The new Snail W3D is HUGE and I don't want something that looks like a handheld console anyway. When im on a meeting with middle aged men at an office I can't pop out MUH GAMING CONSOLE.
Carrying an actual handheld console in 2015 along with your normal smartphone... LOL.
This is why, for me, the Xperia Play was perfect. You want to play: you slide the gamepad out and enjoy some great ms-dos/old school emulation gaming. When you are done, slide in and it looks like a regular phone. THATS the only option. I need that. I CANT enjoy modern games, I don't care about them, and I can't enjoy old games with touchscreen controls. How in the f*ck im supossed to strafe and shoot at the same time in Doom? Jesus christ, they ruined everything. If only stupid Sony wouldn't held the stupid patent, we could have had something similar to the Bladepad or the Razer Junglecat for the main Android phones, but meanwhile, unless you want to buy an iCrap, you are stuck with the Xperia Play which is a slow POS nowadays.
Im only asuming that's the reason, because I refuse to believe no one has thought about releasing a sliding gamepad EVER for any Android phone.
This is my rant after years of waiting for something.

Brother. I know your pain. You have said what I've been thinking for a REALLY long time. Respect.

Dukedoom - i think just like You. But there are no choise in the world. Really. Only Xperia Play up to today have a gamepad. A real gamepad and it's a real phone. I think that we never get another phone with gamepad simmilar to ours Xperia Play. It's really sad.
I bought a gamepad for my s4. It's easy to connect and to mount. But it's still another device with another battery and another thing to carry. Like Ngage long time ago - xperia play had small group of fans. But thoese fans are loyal as hell.

You guys definitely aren't alone on this one. I'm getting tired of the Play's lack of power. If I run the stock rom all the emulators run smoothly but I get shafted in the apps department. If I upgrade to 4.x then I can run modern apps but the emulators are sluggish. I'm also on a R800X so my rom options are limited as well. There is still a demand for a device like the Play but everybody is too stupid to make it. I can't find anything like it even if I look at Chinese imports and they practically invented handheld game consoles that use emulators!

I feel the pain however the play sold **** all so no one even wants to make no. 2 much w3d it's your best option at the moment. If we could get more interest in the devices to accumulate than maybe Sony would make another but for that to happen the vita must die lol. Sure would be cool if you could just slap a new cpu in and recode some software but that's not how it works. The play could run newer os but you need a really good developer to optimise. Much w3d is gigantic which sucks I'll be buying one right now they are on pre order though and I never pre order anything.
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I agree with the sentiment here. I have been waiting for a proper sucessor (slidedepad) for a long time.
Unfortunately the Xperia Play was sold in a moment where mobile gaming was still in its infancy, and phones weren't the little powerhouses of today. If it was released today, we would have a very potent quadcore with at least 2gb ram, HDMI out (or at least a dock for that) and possibly remastered PSP games made for it, which would certainly drive more sales. That, and having actual analogs instead of touchpads (like the PSP Go) would really help make it sell like hotcakes, possibly paving the way for an Xplay 2 and more.

psxpetey said:
I feel the pain however the play sold **** all so no one even wants to make no. 2 much w3d it's your best option at the moment. If we could get more interest in the devices to accumulate than maybe Sony would make another but for that to happen the vita must die lol. Sure would be cool if you could just slap a new cpu in and recode some software but that's not how it works. The play could run newer os but you need a really good developer to optimise. Much w3d is gigantic which sucks I'll be buying one right now they are on pre order though and I never pre order anything.
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That was the other problem with the play everyone thought Sony was going to release tons of games but we only got 13 ps1 classics then Sony never released any more. Definitely did not help sales
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Well i upgraded my phone and just use a keychain controller. It's not as good as the xperia play, but that's a nice alternative.
I own an Impulse controller :
http://www.impulsecontroller.com/
And i ordered a cheaper clone for my gf, friends and brother (back then got it for 4€ each) :
http://www.dx.com/fr/p/multi-functi...hutter-w-wireless-mouse-function-black-370723
Quick review : Well, that's a nice piece of hardware, but you lack L/R/Start/Select (well just use the virtual controller on screen for those and that's ok). The cross is not really precise, don't expect to play fighting game with that (Hadoken are tricky), but that's ok for most of games.
Edit : It seems there is a new challenger :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2015-...S-Smart-Phone-Smartphone-Hot/32286620242.html
Did someone try this one ? Seems to me like a cheap alternative.

Baltyre said:
Well i upgraded my phone and just use a keychain controller. It's not as good as the xperia play, but that's a nice alternative.
I own an Impulse controller :
http://www.impulsecontroller.com/
And i ordered a cheaper clone for my gf, friends and brother (back then got it for 4€ each) :
http://www.dx.com/fr/p/multi-functi...hutter-w-wireless-mouse-function-black-370723
Quick review : Well, that's a nice piece of hardware, but you lack L/R/Start/Select (well just use the virtual controller on screen for those and that's ok). The cross is not really precise, don't expect to play fighting game with that (Hadoken are tricky), but that's ok for most of games.
Edit : It seems there is a new challenger :
http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/2015-...S-Smart-Phone-Smartphone-Hot/32286620242.html
Did someone try this one ? Seems to me like a cheap alternative.
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how are you supossed to play in public with that

This was the closest we ever got to getting a replacement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uKuZq7yBM&t=2m00s
Unfortunately the kickstarter got cancelled, the project never shipped.
Someone get to work and make one of these. I don't care about the keyboard, I just want the cross, joystick and buttons, make it simple with that swivel rotating mechanism to hide it and add in L/R top buttons.

dukedoom said:
This was the closest we ever got to getting a replacement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uKuZq7yBM&t=2m00s
Unfortunately the kickstarter got cancelled, the project never shipped.
Someone get to work and make one of these. I don't care about the keyboard, I just want the cross, joystick and buttons, make it simple with that swivel rotating mechanism to hide it and add in L/R top buttons.
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That looks like the Open Pandora handhelds controller scheme:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)
FYI, I am deeply considering buying another Xperia PLAY. I moved onto a Nexus 5 almost a 18 months ago and I am definately eyeballing the Snail W3D, but I do miss the PLAY for what it could bring in emulator wise. If I do snag one it will be white this time, always had the black models.

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That looks like the Open Pandora handhelds controller scheme:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)
FYI, I am deeply considering buying another Xperia PLAY. I moved onto a Nexus 5 almost a 18 months ago and I am definately eyeballing the Snail W3D, but I do miss the PLAY for what it could bring in emulator wise. If I do snag one it will be white this time, always had the black models.
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Last summer.... I picked up a R800x off of ebay for $25 with Free Shipping. I was really surprised how good of shape it was in.... I would say an 8 out of 10. I only use it for gaming because I have a note 3 as my daily driver. But I'm loving it for emulators... definitely worth the small amount I paid for it. Maybe you could pick one up cheap too on eBay if you keep your eyes peeled .

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Last summer.... I picked up a R800x off of ebay for $25 with Free Shipping. I was really surprised how good of shape it was in.... I would say an 8 out of 10. I only use it for gaming because I have a note 3 as my daily driver. But I'm loving it for emulators... definitely worth the small amount I paid for it. Maybe you could pick one up cheap too on eBay if you keep your eyes peeled .
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This is the one I am eyeballing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221753627798?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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This is the one I am eyeballing:
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The white look is nice and there's definitely a lot more development for the R800i variant than the R800x. It looks like a nice phone. I only got a R800x because a friend of mine had one and I was teaming up with him to help him root it and unlock the bootloader (This is the only Sony phone I've ever bought and I was totally unfamiliar with Flashtool, ftf's, etc... ).
It would be good to have you back on here with an Xperia Play in hand .... when I was learning to root and Rom this phone, I found a lot of your older posts to be really helpful. :thumbup:

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The white look is nice and there's definitely a lot more development for the R800i variant than the R800x. It looks like a nice phone. I only got a R800x because a friend of mine had one and I was teaming up with him to help him root it and unlock the bootloader (This is the only Sony phone I've ever bought and I was totally unfamiliar with Flashtool, ftf's, etc... ).
It would be good to have you back on here with an Xperia Play in hand .... when I was learning to root and Rom this phone, I found a lot of your older posts to be really helpful. :thumbup:
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I am glad to hear that my posts have been helpful here. I am going to get a PLAY within a month or so, but I will snag one. The Nexus would stil be my main daily driver and I would be buying the PLAY as a gaming device only. But it would be nice to be back here on this thread with a PLAY in hand. Despite moving on to the N5 forum I still check this forum almost daily despite not having the phone anymore, simply because this forum felt like a small group of friends and I spent so much time on this forum thast I simply could not go without still seeing what was going on. Looking forward to getting another PLAY. I am glad that my past posts were helpful, look forward to being back on here soon. I will keep ya'll posted.

I wouldnt be able to get a Xperia Play at this point. I have a LG P970 which pretty much has the same hardware as the Xperia Play and I cant wait to upgrade it to a Samsung S5 Mini, the phone is bloated as **** and browsing of the internet is not smooth.

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I wouldnt be able to get a Xperia Play at this point. I have a LG P970 which pretty much has the same hardware as the Xperia Play and I cant wait to upgrade it to a Samsung S5 Mini, the phone is bloated as **** and browsing of the internet is not smooth.
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A few mods and the xperia play is super smooth
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Agree with all the sentiments here. Despite the varied Android ecosystem, nobody including Sony wants to bite. The Xperia Play was ergonomically perfect, but no doubt it would have been the usual paranoia and cross product in fighting that killed it before it had a chance based on some really stupid decisions regarding the specs. Such a shame and depressing state of affairs how close we got to the perfect gamer phone.

i still use the play for emulators and legendary games like bruce lee, fifa 12, and star battalion.
you know what's close for me? i've been using the xperia ZL for a year now and 5.0 HD screen w/quad core on a 4.4 kitkat and 4glte with the OEM option to sync my ps3 controller.
i have all my xperia play games on this device and having to play it on a sony phone w/my ps3 controller without any lag is just as cool for me. i'm a sony fanboi and having the xperia lounge, playstation mobile, walkman player still reminds me of my play without the convenience of the controller slide out.
with the sync, i just turn on the ps3 controller and connects with my newer xperia. it's not completely the same but it feels close.

Guys , what do you think if we find someone how can make a modern Xperia play alternative at kickstarter.com ??
or we can email Sony or do something , so they can made an Xperia play 2 ...