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Why We're Getting No Gingerbread For a While..

Ok guys I think I have figured out why the Samsung Vibrant has been getting no support in terms of updates from anyone including samfirmware.com! If you think about it all other Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy S 4G (Or Vibrant 4G) has had lots of leaks and even ETA's for updates except our Vibrant. Why? Simple. T-Mobile is doing what they tried to do for Froyo! There going to bring updates and bugfixes to the Vibrant 4G first alongside the other Galaxy S devices and use it as another justification to purchase that phone, then a couple months later or perhaps not at all the OG Vibrant might get some bug fixes and a Gingerbread update!
Please reply what you guys think on either this post or your theory on why the last leak we got was KB5 back in Feburary.

The Tech Game said:
Ok guys I think I have figured out why the Samsung Vibrant has been getting no support in terms of updates from anyone including samfirmware.com! If you think about it all other Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy S 4G (Or Vibrant 4G) has had lots of leaks and even ETA's for updates except our Vibrant. Why? Simple. T-Mobile is doing what they tried to do for Froyo! There going to bring updates and bugfixes to the Vibrant 4G first alongside the other Galaxy S devices and use it as another justification to purchase that phone, then a couple months later or perhaps not at all the OG Vibrant might get some bug fixes and a Gingerbread update!
Please reply what you guys think on either this post or your theory on why the last leak we got was KB5 back in Feburary.
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I don't know but i read something today that said google stepped in and now is sending updates to all phones on ATT which means folks who had older phones will get upgraded as well.. here is the article - http://socialbarrel.com/google-delivers-android-2-3-gingerbread-to-att-devices/11881/
I hope they do the same for T-mobile and help customers like us with samsung (vibrant and behold ) users alike..

MadNosf said:
I hope they do the same for T-mobile and help customers like us with samsung (vibrant and behold ) users alike..
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I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Phone: Samsung Vibrant
ROM: Phiremod V3.0.1
Kernel: Bali-X 1.2
Modem: KB5

im gonna buttrape tmobile

Bleh.... I'll just buy my answer to this problem: Hello, nexus prime!

I don't care much 4 dah update I just feel bad 4 dah average Joe cuz I remember how bad an laggy 2.1 was but some people have had better experiences with it
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Why isn't there "No more Samsung/ T-mobile" this time for the gingerbread?

i wish one of the dev can port the vibrant 4g 2.3 or 2.4 Rom to the vibrant i have been using the vibrant 4g with 2.3 and it is not bad at all it work real good better than most of the 2.3 or 2.4 Rom out there.

Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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accordex said:
Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
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geoffcorey said:
Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
OK.. same with 2.1 to 2.2 ...could you really tell? No...
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accordex said:
Could someone explain to me in plain English the big deal with 2.3 /2.4? I get 2.1 to 2.2 gave us flash... what's the big deal with the new ver?
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Besides the crt animation, an average user wouldn't notice the difference. I like the multitasking of gingerbread.
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accordex said:
-your comment about 2.1 to 2.2-
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No, 2.1 to 2.2 optimized snapdragon cpus. Hummingbird got hardly any jump. Gb fixed that.
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+1 to hummingbird optimization.
TW4/4.5 also runs smoother on GB than Froyo (4/4.5 is a HUGE plus over the stock TW)
Some apps also required 2.3 (such as Netflix before they updated it to allow froyo)
CRT
probably more than I can't think off my head right now
edit: heres a pretty good comprehensive list and description
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
we will reap the full benefits once we get an official 2.3 release (accompanied with source) so our talented devs optimize 2.3 for us.

geoffcorey said:
No, 2.1 to 2.2 optimized snapdragon cpus. Hummingbird got hardly any jump. Gb fixed that.
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Did it? I've seen no great evidence of this on the international S's official GB

geoffcorey said:
Better optimization for hummingbird CPU.
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Only on aosp based 2.3 roms
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I was tired of my vibrants jumpy inconsistent gps so got myself a Galaxy S 4G and installed the latest KG4 GB. The stock GB runs smoother than Cynogenmod for vibrant.
GB may be a minor upgrade but its a major upgrade for us due to hummingbird optimizations. Also the battery life is MUCH better on GB.

TouchWiz speed only matters for those who choose to use it
I use GO Launcher EX and love it.
Free, fast, beautiful, and more features than TW.

I was hoping tmobile was going the way of att with gb updates...in the mean time, new phone!. Haven't decided which yet though
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masterotaku said:
Did it? I've seen no great evidence of this on the international S's official GB
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As much as I hate to reference quadrants, GB boosted the CPU scores portion of the test significantly for the SGS

Who wants an Ice cream sandwich?

Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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It can handle it easily nexus S is pretty much same hardware an y wouldn't u want it its the future
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Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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Its not even close to being done do the kernel is not even updated do an the person who leaked it said its a work in process it's alpha they got something up there sleeve
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Alex530 said:
Personally Im a little let down if that really is ics. We were told it'd be a whole new ui no? Plus blue is not my color anyways.
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What's Gingerbread missing that you want so bad from IceCreamSandwich?

playonline53tms said:
Do you guys think the vibrant could handle this? But I'm sure the development here will someday get it working. Your thoughts?
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oh... i thought you meant like... you know.. a real ice cream sandwich... im disappointed :\

The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.

Looking at the leak that could have just been edited GB, I mean any of the devs here could have made that.
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Danstek said:
The Nexus S supports ICS so our Vibrants should run it just fine. A Nexus S is basically the same hardware as a Galaxy S with NFC support. Unfortunately I don't think we'll be getting any official ICS from Samsung. We have yet to even see Gingerbread, although Tmobile also has a say in it. I've already decided to either get the Samsung Hercules or Nexus Prime to replace my age old Vibrant. I'm leaning towards the Nexus Prime simply for first-served updates directly from Google.
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What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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playonline53tms said:
What really sucks is I just started 2year plan I thought this was a new phone lol so who knows what they will have in 2 years.
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lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream

gamikzone said:
lol that sucks but this phone is not too bad compared to new phones ive had mine for a while but im still satisfied with it, ive had honeycomb run on my vibrant, not fully functioning but it runs so why not ice cream
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Exatly
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We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant

I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.

XPLANE9 said:
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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Well I don't expect alot either but they could surprise us.
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XPLANE9 said:
I could really care less about Ice Cream Sandwhich for the Vibrant. Update is released in December, we wait at least 6 or so months for CM8 to be stable, the new update may pose new problems upon the existing ones, and by then the phone is 2 years old already. Touchwiz already offers GPU-acceleration in its launcher and browser, and for the most part, the current Honeycomb GPU acceleration is still lacking compared to that of iOS or WP7 (app drawer, screen rotation, and homescreen animation still lags a little). Not really expecting much of ICS.
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No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Emama said:
We dont even have (official) GB fully functioning, so I wont think about any further for vibrant
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actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that

gamikzone said:
actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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For me gps works when it wants not when i want, its not what i called fully fixed. I always get back to froyo after using cm7 for a week.

Jasonhunterx said:
No uhh not really its suppose to make android one cross all platforms so transition to new version should be much better than it was for CM7 an there still gonna update international galaxy s we will see ICS soon cuz u can port over since its so similar an Google yet to fail me except for Gingerbread
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Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.

gamikzone said:
actually its pretty much fully functioning ever since they got gps somewhat fixed last month now its really good compared to build 1 when i used that
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I tried multiple builds and just couldn't get reasonable battery life. I got tired of charging through usb at work. With my usage and location I get about 24 hours on undervolt 2.2 builds.
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XPLANE9 said:
Yes, it is going to make Android the same across all Nexus branded platforms. Touchwiz, Sense, and Blur are not going anywhere and the manufacturers still have to modify ICS for each individual device. The Galaxy S is done for official support, period. Samsung is not making any more money from the original Galaxy S compared to the SII; most owners of the original have or will already have switched devices so Samsung has no true need to update the international version. Google's 18 month update suggestion was what it was, a suggestion, and by the time December comes, the Galaxy S is about 18 months old anyways.
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Really only time can tell what they do
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OUR PHONES CAN'T HANDLE ICS - samsung

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/23/samsung-no-room-for-ics-on-galaxy-s-galaxy-tab-touchwiz-to-bl/
TROLOLOLO

This kind of stuff just pushes more users to buy a nexus instead of a "modified" Android device.
I know that is all I'll be buying in the future.
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Mine handles it pretty well.

my phone can't handle ICS, but can i have GB at least???

rogerchew said:
my phone can't handle ICS, but can i have GB at least???
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I know right? They already said no gb so isnt it kind of a given were not gonna get ics.

I have ics running smooth as butter on my phone thanks to Neo.
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The thing is that there saying ics an touch wiz won't mend well most likely all the old touch wiz 3 won't get ics
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xriderx66 said:
I have ics running smooth as butter on my phone thanks to Neo.
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Yes totally. The word goes out to NB. He is the man. In termed if my next phone. Well I can say that even though galaxy s is almost 2 years old it still has good support from xda because of the awesome hardware. So next phone will have to have hardware just as good or it won't get much support.
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Bring Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich To The Galaxy S Family http://t.co/o66h7AUL

They mean Samsung Touchwiz ICS.
They bloat and put a hell more features and the package is about twice what AOSP ROM is.
Look at CM7 size and compare to Froyo Stock.
Need I say more?
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VeryCoolAlan said:
They mean Samsung Touchwiz ICS.
They bloat and put a hell more features and the package is about twice what AOSP ROM is.
Look at CM7 size and compare to Froyo Stock.
Need I say more?
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alan, we are sorry it had to come to this but GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO back to your Windows phone. ATLEAST you couldve gotten a iphone or something!!!! but a WINDOWS PHONE? thats as bad as blackberry

xriderx66 said:
alan, we are sorry it had to come to this but GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO back to your Windows phone. ATLEAST you couldve gotten a iphone or something!!!! but a WINDOWS PHONE? thats as bad as blackberry
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Awww
Nah I got it to take a break from Android and other big OS'.
WinPhone7 is really simple and that's it.
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Awww
Nah I got it to take a break from Android and other big OS'.
WinPhone7 is really simple and that's it.
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I'm joking hah anytime soon ur coming back??
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It's amazing what our phones can do when they're not bogged down by a bloated piece of **** like TouchWiz. Running ICS perfectly fine here, no thanks to Samsung.

Lol "ice-creammy goodness"
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you know i hate to say it, but i'm kinda curious what the 4.0 variant of TW will look like. and actually surprised with the sgs II 4.0.1 leaks no ones ripped that launcher over to the vibrant since the TW launcher does have a cult following.

boystuff said:
you know i hate to say it, but i'm kinda curious what the 4.0 variant of TW will look like. and actually surprised with the sgs II 4.0.1 leaks no ones ripped that launcher over to the vibrant since the TW launcher does have a cult following.
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It looks well... the same.
The same ol' icons, the same noti. bar probably the only difference would be minor ones and "transitional effects"

xriderx66 said:
It looks well... the same.
The same ol' icons, the same noti. bar probably the only difference would be minor ones and "transitional effects"
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i still want to play with it, cause all i've seen is the video and it didn't give me enough details. i myself have no experience in porting proprietary system .apks and wouldn't even know where to start.

xriderx66 said:
I'm joking hah anytime soon ur coming back??
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Lol im looking at a Galaxy S2 from ATT.
Just not now.
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Cant wait for the galaxy s3 then after that the galaxy s5 my cuz got her htc vivid lol n my screen trmpled it lol

Official ICS 4.0 ota for nexus s 4g before late galaxy nexus.

I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
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I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
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But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display
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treyweez11 said:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
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The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
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Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...

from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.

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being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
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I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.

Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.

supralover72 said:
I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
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so....
their rollout stopped
and the rom avalanche started
hmmmm
...you are
obviously correct tho...
and i'm sure they havnt looked at any
of the code floating around here

the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news

lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
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just install it, you'll like it
it's on the Stickies

Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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AllGamer said:
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news
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By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.

bozzykid said:
By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
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LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
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Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
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that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better

AllGamer said:
LOL well i was thinking it was released last year
but technically it's only 5 days short to a month
that's not stable enough for my taste yet
stock original ICS from google is currently running better
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I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.
It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives

I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho

hp420 said:
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)
Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho
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I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone

SGS2 I9100 is confirmed to get official Samsung Jelly Bean Update

Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update

jazzytofu said:
Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update
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It would be nice, but this means nothing to us. Almost 2 completely different phones with the same name.
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Smh... lol

Mr.Knitty said:
Smh... lol
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Please, share your input. Enlighten us
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jazzytofu said:
Hopefully T989 will be too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...alaxy-S2-to-get-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-Update
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After not getting gingerbread on the vibrant (the only galaxy s1 variant that didn't), it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't update this variant of the gs2 beyond ICS just to keep the streak alive of not fully supporting updates for Samsung phones on T-Mobile.
Exhibit A: behold 2
Exhibit B: galaxy s vibrant
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HeavyA said:
After not getting gingerbread on the vibrant (the only galaxy s1 variant that didn't), it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't update this variant of the gs2 beyond ICS just to keep the steak alive of not fully supporting updates for Samsung phones on T-Mobile.
Exhibit A: behold 2
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Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Towle said:
Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Wow, this is my first samsung phone so I didn't know such sad history existed. Well, whatever will be, I hope cm10 will be stable by then. I'm not a big fan of TouchWiz myself. My next phone will be a Google device phone. OS support is more important to me than specs

Towle said:
Please, share your input. Enlighten us
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Its no point... So o well

Towle said:
Not to mention the sales they make on people upgrading for new software alone.
Whether we see it officially or not, we will see a stable version for our phones from the devs here.
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Amen Bro ! Thats why I love this site so much. It doesn't really matter what T-Mobile does so its kind of a pointless conversation. I would't really even take the KIES update or OTA update from T-Mobile anyways. I will wait untill someone here gets a good stable JB Release. I am reluctant to change because my ICS rom is so smooth and stable but I know within a few months it will be worth it. It's like a slap in the face to the slow and bloated T-Mo. Rom.

jcnbama said:
Amen Bro ! Thats why I love this site so much. It doesn't really matter what T-Mobile does so its kind of a pointless conversation. I would't really even take the KIES update or OTA update from T-Mobile anyways. I will wait untill someone here gets a good stable JB Release. I am reluctant to change because my ICS rom is so smooth and stable but I know within a few months it will be worth it. It's like a slap in the face to the slow and bloated T-Mo. Rom.
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I wouldn't do a kies update either. My hope is for Samsung to release source so that the devs here have more to work with. That was what dogged the vibrant. They eventually released Froyo for it, but nothing further. The GB/ICS/JB releases for it were all ported from either the i9000 or the Nexus S, and had to be tweaked since there was no actual source to work with for the vibrant itself. That's why the GPS was so spotty on it on any version of android after Froyo. I'm glad that my insurance replacement for my busted Vibrant was the Hercules, which is still in the window of time (was it 18 months?) that they pledged to support upgrades to android. Whether we actually see it is another story. At least the devs here really kick some butt on the ROMs they release.

Just got JB on my tf300 2 days ago
Asus updates waaaay quicker than Samsung! Maybe later on I could get an Asus Phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736726
There's already a Jelly Bean discussion thread that has been hidden away at the top of this forum
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