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Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
Ace42 said:
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
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but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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Oh your right but I still want the Dell Mini 5 too.
._. any android phone is better then the g1. It's outdated, but I still love it
brummiesteven said:
Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
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I'm Jealous of you European People
I hope T-Mobile USA get some awesome HTC SENSE android love. All we got is the g1, the mytouch line, and those $h!tty motoblur devices.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
Just to let you guys know, apparently it's coming out in Australia on some network that uses the same 3G Bands as the USA.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
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Oh ok, thanks for the info, I wasn't sure
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
NickPDX said:
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
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£130 on ebay, pretty decent as I didn't sell the SD Card with it.
I had intended to sell the 16gb SD Card, Phone (Boxed) and Motorola s9 wireless earphones.
The buyer wanted me to end the auction early and offered £130 for the phone only, guess I got lucky.
Same here, i got my Desire on Saturday and couldn't be happier with it!
Though i'm a sucker and gave my G1 to my dad, keep it in the family and all
Gonna sell my Hero though, i saw they still fetch around £180 on ebay...
As the title says, I am looking for an HTC Desire Z that works on Rogers / Fido / Telus / Bell (in Canada); AT&T in the US.
If you have one and want to arrange a trade, or just have questions, send me a PM.
Is this basically the Tmobile G2?
player911 said:
Is this basically the Tmobile G2?
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other than frequency bands and one ROM won't go on the other (can't remember how that shakes out)..
crachel said:
other than frequency bands and one ROM won't go on the other (can't remember how that shakes out)..
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That's right. The G2 is basically the same phone as the Desire Z; although the G2 won't work on my network if I understand it correctly (or the 3G won't work at least).
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That's right. The G2 is basically the same phone as the Desire Z; although the G2 won't work on my network if I understand it correctly (or the 3G won't work at least).
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Sorry, I was a bit unclear. I meant they've been flashing either G2 ROMs on a desire Z or vice versa, can't remember which.
Both phones will work on GSM networks.. Bell's desire Z has the hardware for At&t 3g while the G2 does not, but you could pop a sim in an unlocked G2 and get edge speeds on at&t. i wouldnt do that though
Yea I don't think I could live without at least 3G speeds on my cell. I travel alot and have my fair share of Edge only.
Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
Maybe craigslist is more realistic.
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player911 said:
Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
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Ahhhh. The one million dollar question.
desire z has root and cyanogen so it will be getting gingerbread too
crachel said:
desire z has root and cyanogen so it will be getting gingerbread too
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Have fun waiting
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Off topic but the Tmobile G2 works with Wind Mobile 3G in Canada.
player911 said:
Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
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I'll have gingerbread when the cyanogenmod team gets it.
ChongoDroid said:
Have fun waiting
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I'll be waiting for it on my N1 too... I can be patient. AOSP is great for some, but until I see what is actually in Gingerbread I'll stick with the cyanogenmod Froyo.
ChongoDroid said:
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I posted on kijiji as well. Nobody uses craigslist where I am.
I'm really not displeased with my nexus one, I just prefer a physical keyboard.
try in the marketplace here. be prepared to add money to your end of the deal as the Z goes for about $550. Part of me wants to get the Z cause I do miss having a keyboard, and it is faster, but my N1 still runs beautifully and I get to play with gingerbread first.
good luck on finding someone to trade with.
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I'll have gingerbread when the cyanogenmod team gets it.
I'll be waiting for it on my N1 too... I can be patient. AOSP is great for some, but until I see what is actually in Gingerbread I'll stick with the cyanogenmod Froyo.
I posted on kijiji as well. Nobody uses craigslist where I am.
I'm really not displeased with my nexus one, I just prefer a physical keyboard.
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Fair enough
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Which variant will run on rogers 3g? I'm interested now lol
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variant of what? the desire? just get it from bell outright. or see if you can find it on kijiji. you will have to unlock it and set up the rogers apn and you are set.
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variant of what? the desire? just get it from bell outright. or see if you can find it on kijiji. you will have to unlock it and set up the rogers apn and you are set.
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Sweet, will do once samsung gets their facts straight about the samsung nexus s
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I was wondering if the Droid 2 Global will work on AT&T bcuz i read on ebay on an auction for the verizon version that it will work on any GSM network as long as its not in the US. Can anyone clarify this?
Well, seeing as AT&T operates in the US, the answer would be no, it will not work on AT&T.
People are working on it, but it will not currently work on AT&T.
kwheel596 said:
Well, seeing as AT&T operates in the US, the answer would be no, it will not work on AT&T.
People are working on it, but it will not currently work on AT&T.
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damn that sucks cuz im looking for a good Phone with a QWERTY keyboard and is fast cuz AT&T doesnt have any
ShadowLegion said:
damn that sucks cuz im looking for a good Phone with a QWERTY keyboard and is fast cuz AT&T doesnt have any
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buy yourself a desire z from bell canada
ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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ptesmoke said:
im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
batman_112 said:
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
batman_112 said:
at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ptesmoke said:
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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ptesmoke said:
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306
the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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alankstiyo said:
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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badhobz said:
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ptesmoke said:
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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Hi, I have the unlocked essential phone from Amazon. Can anyone on AT&T share their APN settings with me? I have already tried a few I found on Google, and tried changing some settings with that special number you put in the dialer to no avail. No matter where go I get HSPA. Nothing else.
WiddleyScudds said:
Hi, I have the unlocked essential phone from Amazon. Can anyone on AT&T share their APN settings with me? I have already tried a few I found on Google, and tried changing some settings with that special number you put in the dialer to no avail. No matter where go I get HSPA. Nothing else.
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You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
BYOD... But get crap service
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rignfool said:
You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
BYOD... But get crap service
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Really? How does that work?
WiddleyScudds said:
Really? How does that work?
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I read it when I first got the device... It doesn't show in their system... So I still have LTE... But if I told them... I'd be screwed...
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I switched from Verizon to Att and was at a store with this very same Essential phone and we activated it right there and I have no issues with LTE! Hmmm!
starbiker99 said:
I switched from Verizon to Att and was at a store with this very same Essential phone and we activated it right there and I have no issues with LTE! Hmmm!
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What exactly is your point
rignfool said:
You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
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This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!
WiddleyScudds said:
This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!
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Yeah I think something else is up. I have constantly used unlocked phones on AT&T for the past 6 years and no issues. Even now I have the Essential and I have perfect LTE. Sorry man I wish I new what was up with your device, but I don't. Only thing I can think of is maybe you have a defective device and might think about returning it or warranty repair?
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This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!
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I can't find the article I read... Nor the webpage that had the fine print I'm referring to...
Maybe they changed their policy... I know wifi calling and HD voice aren't available for essential... Because it's not an AT&T branded device...
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I can't find the article I read... Nor the webpage that had the fine print I'm referring to...
Maybe they changed their policy... I know wifi calling and HD voice aren't available for essential... Because it's not an AT&T branded device...
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I dont care about wifi calling and I don't know what HD is. But I'll tell ya what. I'm pissed. This is my third phone this year because the other two wouldn't work at all. I just sent essential an email.
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I dont care about wifi calling and I don't know what HD is. But I'll tell ya what. I'm pissed. This is my third phone this year because the other two wouldn't work at all. I just sent essential an email.
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My understanding of the situation is it's all Big Blue's fault... And has nothing to do with essential...
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rignfool said:
My understanding of the situation is it's all Big Blue's fault... And has nothing to do with essential...
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Wouldn't doubt it. Nonetheless, thanks shedding some light on the issue. Luckily my dad still pays my bill, or I'd be out of there so fast. I hate AT&T.
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Yeah I think something else is up. I have constantly used unlocked phones on AT&T for the past 6 years and no issues. Even now I have the Essential and I have perfect LTE. Sorry man I wish I new what was up with your device, but I don't. Only thing I can think of is maybe you have a defective device and might think about returning it or warranty repair?
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So APN is not the problem, now I'm gonna have to drive to AT&T & make a scene. If anyone has any more info I'd be glad to hear it. If someone did change their APN and got it to work I'd love to know.
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My point is that Att knows that I have an Essential phone ( we installed the sims in the store) and in fact I have 2 of them on my account and they both use LTE. I have seen the H show up when traveling down I70 in Eastern Kansas but is almost always says LTE. Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue here. Here are my APN settings.
Edit: I also am set to Global under prefered network types. Where I live the Speed seems much faster than set on 4G/LTE from my speed tests 45Mb vs 20Mb not sure if that is scientific or not.
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My point is that Att knows that I have an Essential phone ( we installed the sims in the store) and in fact I have 2 of them on my account and they both use LTE. I have seen the H show up when traveling down I70 in Eastern Kansas but is almost always says LTE. Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue here. Here are my APN settings.
Edit: I also am set to Global under prefered network types. Where I live the Speed seems much faster than set on 4G/LTE from my speed tests 45Mb vs 20Mb not sure if that is scientific or not.
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I can't get service at all on the NXTGENPHONE APN. Only the attached phone one works.
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I have an idea tell me if you think it'll work. I just re read the thread that kinda explains this. I go back to at&t and have them put a new sim card in my old Zenfone 2, which is micro SD. It is unlocked and I had 4G working on it. Then cut the sim card and put it in the essential phone and Bam. What do you think? Or is it already in this "database"?
WiddleyScudds said:
I have an idea tell me if you think it'll work. I just re read the thread that kinda explains this. I go back to at&t and have them put a new sim card in my old Zenfone 2, which is micro SD. It is unlocked and I had 4G working on it. Then cut the sim card and put it in the essential phone and Bam. What do you think? Or is it already in this "database"?
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Essential is now supported on AT&T.
https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/968967961661792256?s=19
doctahjeph said:
Essential is now supported on AT&T.
https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/968967961661792256?s=19
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You mean 4G is now supported? The phone has always been supported.
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You mean 4G is now supported? The phone has always been supported.
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Yes while you could use the device on AT&T as many of have it was not a recognized device by at&t. If you gave them your IMEI they wouldn't recognize the device as an official AT&T compatible device. Why some people like yourself don't get the full AT&T experience like LTE. That won't be an issue now. The essential PH-1 is an officially recognized device by AT&T.
So do I need a new sim now? I've been messing around with settings and still can't get 4G.