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Question about Unlocked Vodafone in U.S.

Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.

For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.

I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.

sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?

bobdude5 said:
ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.

or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..

Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.

I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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joeyyoung said:
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).

Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?

Hero Coming SOON to US!

It has been confirmed that the HTC hero will be coming to US, but the question now is, WHEN and How much? I am certinaly in for one, after they speedup the firmware. There are too many issues with the lag at the moment to warrant a purchase.
Who else is looking forward for this release??
Details Here:
http://android-simplicity.blogspot.com/2009/08/now-usa-can-get-hero-too.html

it should be on tmobile

It looks like it's coming to sprint and AT&T, T-mob has it in europe already, so them possibly too.
I'm holding back my purchase just to see if i can has 3g.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/

shaolinx said:
There are too many issues with the lag at the moment to warrant a purchase.
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Speaking as someone who has one, and uses it daily, I refute that statement!
I really have no particular lag issues.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Speaking as someone who has one, and uses it daily, I refute that statement!
I really have no particular lag issues.
Regards,
Dave
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I agree with it. i think its even more stable than windows mobile but thats for me

I don't think at&t is gonna get this. They only say 850/1900 3g bands and Rogers is the same. I bet you rogers will get it first in north america which is ok by me because then at&t customers can get it with the reduced price for data as at&t will not detect it!

The new Firmware update fixes all the lag... I have modacos 1.4 running based on the leaked update and there is no lag at all and i have finally been able to have all 7 screens filled with widgets... everything now runs smooth...

Raspster said:
I don't think at&t is gonna get this. They only say 850/1900 3g bands and Rogers is the same. I bet you rogers will get it first in north america which is ok by me because then at&t customers can get it with the reduced price for data as at&t will not detect it!
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FCC doesn't operate in canada, so the FCC clearance isnt for there. so if there using 850/1900 on the FCC its def at&t.

HTC Hero coming to Sprint - see here

IMHO, they may call it a Hero, but it's not a Hero!
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Why not call it something else, since it isn't the same device!
Regards,
Dave

The HTC Hero will cost $179.99 with a two-year contract and after $150 in rebates when it goes on sale Oct. 11. That's a slightly lower price than Sprint's other flagship smart phones, the Palm Pre and BlackBerry Tour 9630, which both cost $199 after rebates.
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Don't know about you guys but I'm not diggin' the industrial design of this "Hero". Looks like a redesigned Magic than anything else. Wonder if it has the teflon coating of the original Hero?

When they get Wifi Tethering working on the Hero, I'll get one... I need something to play with until wm7 comes out.

That's no Hero! It's more like the Villain!
I need a Hero!

I saw the announcement of Sprint's Hero not 20 minutes ago and it made me sad and disappointed. I HOPE the Hero that was passed through the FCC with AT&T/Rogers bands comes soon and I hope it's the European version.

soulonfirexx said:
I saw the announcement of Sprint's Hero not 20 minutes ago and it made me sad and disappointed. I HOPE the Hero that was passed through the FCC with AT&T/Rogers bands comes soon and I hope it's the European version.
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It was released that sprint has exclusivity on the hero.

RBFG said:
It was released that sprint has exclusivity on the hero.
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Well, hopefully Rogers gets the Euro version and we can buy an unlocked version.
I wouldn't mind that one bit.

AT&T when?

I did a search but didn't find much. Any word on the street about when AT&T might be putting the HD2 in their stable?

Tref said:
I did a search but didn't find much. Any word on the street about when AT&T might be putting the HD2 in their stable?
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They won't. The HD2 is already over 6 months old. Plus they wouldn't have anything that might compete with their iphone sales.

HD2 is a T-Mobile Exclusive. if you want it for AT&T I think the Telstra version is at&t 3g compatible.

sancmat said:
HD2 is a T-Mobile Exclusive. if you want it for AT&T I think the Telstra version is at&t 3g compatible.
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Is TMOUS advertising it as an exclusive?
I'm not familiar with Telstra. Is it WWE out of the box? And it will work on 3G, not just Edge?
Thanks

zarathustrax said:
They won't. The HD2 is already over 6 months old. Plus they wouldn't have anything that might compete with their iphone sales.
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The TP2 was more than 6 months old when it was added by AT&T...
And it doesn't compete with the iPhone any more than the HD2 would. Besides iPhone 4.0 is coming out soon so I don't think potential iPhone sales will be hurt by "just another" WinMo device.

Tref said:
Is TMOUS advertising it as an exclusive?
I'm not familiar with Telstra. Is it WWE out of the box? And it will work on 3G, not just Edge?
Thanks
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Yeah, the australian Telstra HD2 will work on the 850 band, which AT&T uses for most of there 3g. You'll have to check and make sure at&t's 3g is on the 850 band in your area. They use another band for 3g in some areas. The Telstra HD2 will cost you around $800 to get it imported, but it's unlocked already, so you can put your at&t sim card right in and use.

Tref said:
The TP2 was more than 6 months old when it was added by AT&T...
And it doesn't compete with the iPhone any more than the HD2 would. Besides iPhone 4.0 is coming out soon so I don't think potential iPhone sales will be hurt by "just another" WinMo device.
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Well, either way, it is advertised as T-Mobile exclusive in the US, so it won't be going to AT&T.

Good info guys, thanks. Guess I'll have to exhale now since holding my breath til AT&T brings it in isn't going to work. Anyone know of any reputable vendors with Telstras?

canada/usa users opinion plz :-)

ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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ptesmoke said:
im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.

batman_112 said:
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .

ptesmoke said:
lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.

batman_112 said:
at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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ptesmoke said:
so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.

batman_112 said:
For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ptesmoke said:
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.

so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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ptesmoke said:
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from

ptesmoke said:
any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306

the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!

To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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alankstiyo said:
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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badhobz said:
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ptesmoke said:
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well

Rockjock007 said:
Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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Unlocked Samsung Omnia 7 In The US?

Anyone using an unlocked Omnia 7 in the US? If so, where did you purchase yours from? Any problems, comments, or concerns?

Bought from Expansys and used in the US for a bout one week on T-mobile.
No problems, worked great.

Bought it from there as well. Used it in Canada, and now in the Middle East. The box came opened though, probably to unlock it.
Beauty of Samsung is that when you boot up it asks what language you want it in. My packaging was French, and so were the manuals, so it was great I got to choose English from the very beginning.

My package was Portuguese, box came sealed but was opened to put an EU to US plug for the transformer which was EU.

Very cool. 3G Data hasn't been a problem for you guys?
I've been trying to find one used, for a resonable price, but they are a bit tough to find.

Anyone else using one in the US? No data problems?

Does the 3G work ok? And how's the data?
I'm thinking of buying this device to use on T-Mobile (USA).

manny84 said:
Does the 3G work ok? And how's the data?
I'm thinking of buying this device to use on T-Mobile (USA).
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Looks like we share the same mind. The other thing that's killing me is I can't actually find the 16GB for sale, anywhere...

bmstrong said:
Looks like we share the same mind. The other thing that's killing me is I can't actually find the 16GB for sale, anywhere...
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To my knowledge, there is only an 8GB version... :-(

Tested 3G and Edge, both worked great. T-mobile is the only network you can use due to the Omnia 7 EU Frequencies.
Device in general is very good, very robust. Only problem for me is MMS as there is no place for manual MMS configuration andf the Omnia 7 tries getting the configuration based on the SIM card.... Which did not work for me.

Kotlicki said:
Tested 3G and Edge, both worked great. T-mobile is the only network you can use due to the Omnia 7 EU Frequencies.
Device in general is very good, very robust. Only problem for me is MMS as there is no place for manual MMS configuration andf the Omnia 7 tries getting the configuration based on the SIM card.... Which did not work for me.
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I literally just had someone in California pop a T-Mobile SIM into a mint unlocked one and no 3G. I just can't justify spending this kind of cash on an EDGE only device. Way to much disparity in 3G reports across the US. Some places it seems to work, others not. MMS isn't a problem for me, I really need the 3G.
I'm told the build quality is substantially better than the Focus. And the overall feel of the Mobile is quite enjoyable. I'd really love to have a SA display, running WP7, on T-Mobile. This HD7 screen is killing my eye's.

So there's conflicting reports on the 3G then. Some people in the US and Canada have had success with it, others haven't... Hmm... 3G is a must if I'm going to shell $700 on a mobile device.
It's a shame that I'm not entirely satisfied with my HD7.

does not work with att
does not work with att

What a bummer.

manny84 said:
So there's conflicting reports on the 3G then. Some people in the US and Canada have had success with it, others haven't... Hmm... 3G is a must if I'm going to shell $700 on a mobile device.
It's a shame that I'm not entirely satisfied with my HD7.
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$700. That's insane. I was going to use:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-UNLOCKED-SA...0613179080?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4155d94ec8
I'm told that they have a T-Mobile branded version that's cheaper than that.

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$700. That's insane. I was going to use:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-UNLOCKED-SA...0613179080?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4155d94ec8
I'm told that they have a T-Mobile branded version that's cheaper than that.
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Thanks so much for showing me this! I'm going to save about $150!
I guess I'm going to roll the dice and hope I get 3G signal...

This is why the Omnia 7 can't work in the US:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ile+HSDPA+2100+omnia&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
It doesn't have the right frequency.

manny84 said:
To my knowledge, there is only an 8GB version... :-(
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Nope, there is a 16GB model also. Both me and the wife has one
Costs $565.00 + shipping (and possibly taxes/customs fees when entering the US), but IMO well worth the extra cost compared to the 8GB model currently available on eBay in the US.

emigrating said:
Nope, there is a 16GB model also. Both me and the wife has one
Costs $565.00 + shipping (and possibly taxes/customs fees when entering the US), but IMO well worth the extra cost compared to the 8GB model currently available on eBay in the US.
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Link? Are you using it in the US currently?

bmstrong said:
Link? Are you using it in the US currently?
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Don't have any links, but can hook you up. This is pretty much cost-price from the dealer. Come with a T-Mobile ROM, although un-branded hardware, they are also SIM unlocked.
Sorry, haven't been back yet, so can't comment on how they work in the US, other than having read a lot of people using them with both 3G and HSDPA. Seems to depend on carrier and city.