ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306
the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
Ace42 said:
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
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but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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Oh your right but I still want the Dell Mini 5 too.
._. any android phone is better then the g1. It's outdated, but I still love it
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Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
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I'm Jealous of you European People
I hope T-Mobile USA get some awesome HTC SENSE android love. All we got is the g1, the mytouch line, and those $h!tty motoblur devices.
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but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
Just to let you guys know, apparently it's coming out in Australia on some network that uses the same 3G Bands as the USA.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
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Oh ok, thanks for the info, I wasn't sure
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
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Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
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£130 on ebay, pretty decent as I didn't sell the SD Card with it.
I had intended to sell the 16gb SD Card, Phone (Boxed) and Motorola s9 wireless earphones.
The buyer wanted me to end the auction early and offered £130 for the phone only, guess I got lucky.
Same here, i got my Desire on Saturday and couldn't be happier with it!
Though i'm a sucker and gave my G1 to my dad, keep it in the family and all
Gonna sell my Hero though, i saw they still fetch around £180 on ebay...
Hey Everyone,
I had purchased the Xperia X10i when it first came out. Everything is good but I am starting to regret that it cannot work with my current carrier's 3G, which is AT&T. I want to know if anyone is interested in swapping their X10a with mine.
Just a brief overview of my phone: it is in its perfect form. Phone has never been dropped, no scratch what so ever. The phone came with screen protector like every other X10. The phone has also been in its silicone protective case since day one. I have all the original accessories, documentation and box.
We can work out detail on how to make sure both you and I are getting what we want. BTW, I am located in Southern California, USA.
Willing to look at all interested swappers. Thanks!
Actually you can change the ROM version from x10i ROM to x10a ROM.
I did it once, change my xperia x10a ROM to x10i ROM since the update for x10a hasn't out yet that time, however i forgot how to do it since I lost my phone.
That's awesome news! But do you know if it effectively change the 3G band from x10i which has 900/1700/2100 to x10a that has 850/1900/2100?
I'll do some search. Thanks again.
But for anyone that is still interested, please feel free to PM me.
changing roms from x10i to x10a will NOT change the bands. You will still be stuck at 850/1900/2100. The bands are related to the hardware, not software. And it's a pain to switch it back to the original rom since you're phone wont be recognized by SEUS anymore.
Bummer, changing the ROM would not alternate the 3G band in which the phone is running.
Any body that is currently on AT&T with Xperia X10 and want to switch carrier to TMobile? Then you might want to consider this trade.
Wondering if there is any interested parties? Thanks a lot!!
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i had an X10i on AT&T and i simply bought an X10A after a month. 3G is defiantly worth it. You will probably be able to sell the X10i for atleast $400 on Ebay. Especially if more people learn about the phone once it comes out on AT&T and happen to be on T-Mobile and want it. I'm about to sell my X10i soon.
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You got a good point there! That was my original intention as well, but thought I might as well try my luck first. Thanks a lot!
But for those who might still be interested in taking a trade, please feel free to PM me. I won't list the phone for auction for another week or so.
Thank!
you know, I'd be real keen, but unfortunately we're just too far away - geographically speaking.
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you know, I'd be real keen, but unfortunately we're just too far away - geographically speaking.
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I am sending you a PM right now. Let's see how it goes.
UPDATE: Just sold the phone. Thanks for looking!
would anyone be interested to swap x10a for an x10i? if yes please lemme know, thanks.
Whats is the main difference between these 2?
changamangaliay said:
Whats is the main difference between these 2?
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they work on different frequency bands/ bandwidths
X10a has the 800/850/1900/2100 3G band. The bands that AT&T 3G and Roger uses.
X10i has 900 / 1700 / 2100 3G band. You can use this phone on TMobile USA and most Asian and European countries.
As the title says, I am looking for an HTC Desire Z that works on Rogers / Fido / Telus / Bell (in Canada); AT&T in the US.
If you have one and want to arrange a trade, or just have questions, send me a PM.
Is this basically the Tmobile G2?
player911 said:
Is this basically the Tmobile G2?
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other than frequency bands and one ROM won't go on the other (can't remember how that shakes out)..
crachel said:
other than frequency bands and one ROM won't go on the other (can't remember how that shakes out)..
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That's right. The G2 is basically the same phone as the Desire Z; although the G2 won't work on my network if I understand it correctly (or the 3G won't work at least).
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That's right. The G2 is basically the same phone as the Desire Z; although the G2 won't work on my network if I understand it correctly (or the 3G won't work at least).
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Sorry, I was a bit unclear. I meant they've been flashing either G2 ROMs on a desire Z or vice versa, can't remember which.
Both phones will work on GSM networks.. Bell's desire Z has the hardware for At&t 3g while the G2 does not, but you could pop a sim in an unlocked G2 and get edge speeds on at&t. i wouldnt do that though
Yea I don't think I could live without at least 3G speeds on my cell. I travel alot and have my fair share of Edge only.
Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
Maybe craigslist is more realistic.
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Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
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Ahhhh. The one million dollar question.
desire z has root and cyanogen so it will be getting gingerbread too
crachel said:
desire z has root and cyanogen so it will be getting gingerbread too
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Have fun waiting
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Off topic but the Tmobile G2 works with Wind Mobile 3G in Canada.
player911 said:
Why are you ditching your Nexus One when Gingerbread is within reach?
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I'll have gingerbread when the cyanogenmod team gets it.
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Have fun waiting
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I'll be waiting for it on my N1 too... I can be patient. AOSP is great for some, but until I see what is actually in Gingerbread I'll stick with the cyanogenmod Froyo.
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Maybe craigslist is more realistic.
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I posted on kijiji as well. Nobody uses craigslist where I am.
I'm really not displeased with my nexus one, I just prefer a physical keyboard.
try in the marketplace here. be prepared to add money to your end of the deal as the Z goes for about $550. Part of me wants to get the Z cause I do miss having a keyboard, and it is faster, but my N1 still runs beautifully and I get to play with gingerbread first.
good luck on finding someone to trade with.
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I'll have gingerbread when the cyanogenmod team gets it.
I'll be waiting for it on my N1 too... I can be patient. AOSP is great for some, but until I see what is actually in Gingerbread I'll stick with the cyanogenmod Froyo.
I posted on kijiji as well. Nobody uses craigslist where I am.
I'm really not displeased with my nexus one, I just prefer a physical keyboard.
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Fair enough
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Which variant will run on rogers 3g? I'm interested now lol
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variant of what? the desire? just get it from bell outright. or see if you can find it on kijiji. you will have to unlock it and set up the rogers apn and you are set.
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variant of what? the desire? just get it from bell outright. or see if you can find it on kijiji. you will have to unlock it and set up the rogers apn and you are set.
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Sweet, will do once samsung gets their facts straight about the samsung nexus s
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I was wondering if the Droid 2 Global will work on AT&T bcuz i read on ebay on an auction for the verizon version that it will work on any GSM network as long as its not in the US. Can anyone clarify this?
Well, seeing as AT&T operates in the US, the answer would be no, it will not work on AT&T.
People are working on it, but it will not currently work on AT&T.
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Well, seeing as AT&T operates in the US, the answer would be no, it will not work on AT&T.
People are working on it, but it will not currently work on AT&T.
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damn that sucks cuz im looking for a good Phone with a QWERTY keyboard and is fast cuz AT&T doesnt have any
ShadowLegion said:
damn that sucks cuz im looking for a good Phone with a QWERTY keyboard and is fast cuz AT&T doesnt have any
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buy yourself a desire z from bell canada
Enough already.....when is this thing gonna be released?
Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.
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Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.
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Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.
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Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.
Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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Yep, what dishme said.
dishme said:
Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.
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Cool,
I am actually very happy with my tablet as is, much better than my Wife's ipad2. I am looking forward to better app compatability, configurable screenshot button, editable mini app tray etc....but that can wait.
I have the wifi version so no carrier to complain to, not that I would anyways my post was meant as laughing at others been impatient (Yanks and Canucks).
Cape Breton is awesome, I used to fly for Air Nova and was based in Halifax with tonnes (or metric fucton????) of Sydney overnights.
Take care,
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Roger/Telus/Fido
nxdark said:
When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.
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They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
tg
P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..
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They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido.....
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I'm pretty sure that Bell owns Telus. I know that Telus uses Bell towers for its signal. Your correct that Rogers owns Fido.
I have Rogers for my cell and Telus for my 3g tab 10.1. I can have no signal on my Rogers phone but have 3 bars on my Tab so they are definitely on different towers.
Telus keeps saying they are going to upgrade the Tab and then pushing the date back.
I think developers had forgotten about Honeycomb on Tablets and I wanted to be back on the main path of Android so I thought I would try rooting.
Now on the CM10 experiment by Pershoot and its great. Exactly the reason I will continue to buy Android products. I don't have to rely on some big stupid corporation, I can go to the great developer community and find all kinds of awesome stuff to run on my devices.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1787399
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They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
tg
P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..
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Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Well call me stupid ( should use Google search more), Telus is indeed a separate company not associated with Bell or Rogers.
Though I do remember an article 5-6 years back about Rogers buying a portion of Telus. That may have just been an investment by the financial arm of Rogers( diversity is a good thing).
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They're all bullcrap. They all need to push updates sooner.
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Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Well, someone got it correct!
Bell and Telus used to be cdma carriers, when they wanted to launch their hspa network a few years ago they agreed to share the cost by building a network together, hence the "Bellus" term! But.....they are two very separate companies and are going their separate ways with lte.
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Rogers announced an update schedule. On there it says that the tab 10.1 and tab 8.9 would be updated in september.
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