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It routinely takes ~5min to get a GPS signal, and sometimes it never happens at all. This severely affects the usefulness of GPS for me.
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alantak said:
Are you happy with GPS performance on your HD2/Android combo?
It routinely takes ~5min to get a GPS signal, and sometimes it never happens at all. This severely affects the usefulness of GPS for me.
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It pinpoints me perfect to within a couple of feet, but by complaining & adding a poll could pi$$ people off who are working hard on developing android to work on our hd². You've got to consider that less than 2 months ago it wasn't even a thought that it would work on our phones never mind a stable version. I haven't booted into windows for days considering that i would have to soft reset quite often with it. So i say each day is bringing android closer to a full build.
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It pinpoints me perfect to within a couple of feet, but by complaining & adding a poll could pi$$ people off who are working hard on developing android to work on our hd². You've got to consider that less than 2 months ago it wasn't even a thought that it would work on our phones never mind a stable version. I haven't booted into windows for days considering that i would have to soft reset quite often with it. So i say each day is bringing android closer to a full build.
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Whats with peoples complaints. What do you accomplish by asking these questions.
Its just like If your parents buy you a brand new dell laptop. You then proceed to complain about the color.
They didnt have to buy you jack crap but instead they took what hard earned money they made while working and bought you this computer.
I'm just saying
Maybe you're just not standing in a good area?
Mine seems to lock on fine. Maybe not instantly like it used to with QuickGPS on WinMO but certainly within a minute or so. I wouldn't go back to WinMo because of it put it that way.
I've been a happy daily user of Android ever since it first became available. Just keeps getting better.
Wow, talk about a smack in the face. Are you satisfied with GPS?
Are you kidding me? Satisfaction at this point in the game is almost irrelevant. You didnt buy the HD2 with Android running on it, did you forget that? Do you know what ALPHA's and BETA's are? Do you know that you dont even have to run Android at all? Go back to winmo or sell your phone and buy a real Android phone. Until things are out of BETA or the not working stage...even then, I am not sure you have grounds to complain about work that SOMEONE else has done and GIVEN to YOU free of charge hoping to make YOUR experienced on YOUR phone BETTER.
Learn to develop and fix the issues yourself if your unhappy with the current state of things otherwise put your bottle back in your mouth and stop whining.
I managed to get a gps fix indoors by a window in well under 5 minutes. This fix was also not aided by data networks as those were disabled purposely for this test. Overall the gps works at least as well on android as it did on windows. I am using IGO Motonav because it utilizes the 480x800 resolution.
Maybe you can try enabling location services via data networks to get a fix sooner.
I used the GPS a few times.
What I noticed is that sometimes it takes too much time to initialize.
I believe it fails somehow but doesn't give a message that says so
So I just close and re-launch Navigation.
Sometimes 2 or 3 times and it usually works at that point.
Everytime I used the GPS I have been amazed by how accurate it is.
Imagine that 2 months ago I had a crappy cell phone and I've never used a GPS before so everything my HD2 can do I think is cool now LOL
give this guy a break..
I had the problem myself. His goal was maybe to receive information from other users who ARE satisfied, E.G. setups that DO WORK.
I can't get GPS to work properly, it shows the GPS icon but the road I'm getting is like 30 km's next to where I am.
Though, it works on some builds, I once had a build that worked almost flawless but can't remember which.. The build I'm using now doesn't work for a meter.
Imho, I'm not complaining, I just use winmo for GPS. But please, don't attack every new post. Maybe the op can change the title to 'Working GPS builds'/somthing like that..
Ducter said:
Wow, talk about a smack in the face. Are you satisfied with GPS?
Are you kidding me? Satisfaction at this point in the game is almost irrelevant. You didnt buy the HD2 with Android running on it, did you forget that? Do you know what ALPHA's and BETA's are? Do you know that you dont even have to run Android at all? Go back to winmo or sell your phone and buy a real Android phone. Until things are out of BETA or the not working stage...even then, I am not sure you have grounds to complain about work that SOMEONE else has done and GIVEN to YOU free of charge hoping to make YOUR experienced on YOUR phone BETTER.
Learn to develop and fix the issues yourself if your unhappy with the current state of things otherwise put your bottle back in your mouth and stop whining.
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Thank God someone else with the same outlook as myself, you cannot expect everything to work but IMO most is considering its fairly new & not native to this phone.
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Thank God someone else with the same outlook as myself, you cannot expect everything to work but IMO most is considering its fairly new & not native to this phone.
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yes, that's a fact, but there is no need to exaggerate 11calcal.
I think everyone here has respect for the devs, it's not like he actually ment to insult anyone with his post. Only answer if it's related to the OP's question.
Admittedly, the question was worded poorly. Rest assured it was in no way meant to be a complaint to the devs (who I have donated to).
I posted a poll because it is the only thing that is really problematic for myself but seems to be regarded as working fine by everyone.
I think that in this whole endeavor its important to not cloud development, testing and user-feedback with flame wars, so I apologize if mine came across that way unintentionally. Text via the interwebs is a poor medium when it comes to emotions, don't you think?
And to clarify, once triangulated the GPS is accurate as ever, its just the time it takes to triangulate thats bad. It takes seconds in WinMo for me.
alantak said:
Admittedly, the question was worded poorly. Rest assured it was in no way meant to be a complaint to the devs (who I have donated to).
I posted a poll because it is the only thing that is really problematic for myself but seems to be regarded as working fine by everyone.
I think that in this whole endeavor its important to not cloud development, testing and user-feedback with flame wars, so I apologize if mine came across that way unintentionally. Text via the interwebs is a poor medium when it comes to emotions, don't you think?
And to clarify, once triangulated the GPS is accurate as ever, its just the time it takes to triangulate thats bad. It takes seconds in WinMo for me.
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ok it was worded in a manner that sounded ungrateful. All i was stating is as its still developing things will become better through builds/zimages etc, it wasn't meant as a flame. As i said mine is quite good so we'll leave things said in the past.
Sorry for jumping to conclusions, and honestly its not my work to defend so I suppose I was just as wrong.
You need to edit the gps config file in system /etc to your local sever it will then find signal as quickly as winmo. There is a thread somewhere I think its called quick gps or something like that with further details. Basically you need to unmount the system and edit the file, making sure it stays, (CHMOD 777) I think its defaults to US.pool.org.
My only wish is that it didn't drain battery so fast I need to use a charger now, and no TomTom, but I have not used winmo since.
moving on then and sticking with the original question...
I think a fair amount depends on which particular sat nav program you're trying to use...I've so far loaded Co-Pilot,Navigon,N-Drive and Sygic McGuider and the time to first fix,purely using GPS and not AGPS, varies depending on which I choose to use (obviously environmental factors will influence this as well). If your particular program isn't upto scratch,either try another one of find one that someone with a similar set up recommends. (and NO...I haven't got time to run a series of tests and publish best first fix results ) You also need to bear in mind that while another type of sat nav may have a better ttff, it might not work in a manner you like or have features you feel you need! My only complaint is aimed at TomTom for not releasing an Android version of their software yet
p.s. Please don't ask me for info on getting GPS software..Nearly been banned for that before
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It pinpoints me perfect to within a couple of feet, but by complaining & adding a poll could pi$$ people off who are working hard on developing android to work on our hd². You've got to consider that less than 2 months ago it wasn't even a thought that it would work on our phones never mind a stable version. I haven't booted into windows for days considering that i would have to soft reset quite often with it. So i say each day is bringing android closer to a full build.
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Q&A - name of the forum... Should I pretend that I don't have problems just to please developers? That's insane...
Anyone? As for why I need this, please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8125474#post8125474
Basically, I just need a mostly reliable Android ROM that doesn't get SOD or GSOD, no constant reboots, and reliable data and wifi tethering...
I am running the BlackStone 2.2 w/ Sense, and it is very reliable. Almost always boots fine, no real SOD after radio upgrade, and fast. However, data will cut out sometimes and take the radio with it, usually for about a minutes (or less), and every once in a while needs a reboot to fix. Also, WiFi tether causes a lock when I try to open it and I have to pull the battery.WiFi tether is a necessary for me now (see link above), and I'm not even sure Dev's have gotten it to work on any ROM... Thought I would ask here...
Thanks!
did you bother reading any of the threads or build threads
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did you bother reading any of the threads or build threads
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Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
When you say reliable do you mean no SOD or screen freezes? If so, I'd say no. There is no 100% reliable android build yet.
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Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
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There's only a hand full of ROM here, why not try them out for yourself? If one didn't work, try another one.
Move question to android general! Android on hd2 is very much still in early development, so answer to your question is no.
They are very good but not perfect.
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VisualOddity said:
Yes, I did. I have read bunches and gone through a number of ROM's. I am not clear after reading them. Sorry if that is a problem, but I'm not, so I am asking for clarification. Since I am not sure what ROM to go with, it seems one post here is more efficient then a different post in every rom thread...
Thanks.
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well if you gone thru a number of roms then you should be able to tell two things:
1, what rom works for you ....
2, and that alot of people experience what you did and there are fixes ,
I do have an idea which ones work for me, but I never really needed tether before, so I never tested. Also, I know there is no perfect ROM. I could deal w/ freezes, which are fixed by killing the G-Sensor. I just wanted something w/ no SOD and wifi tether/data...
I think I have my answer from this thread. Thanks to those that helped.
Thanks...
sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
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sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
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Awesome, thank you...
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Awesome, thank you...
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You could also try out HyperDroid with the update kernel. I am currently using it without problem. With moderate use, I getting about 1.5 day,that without SETCPU setting, with fully charged.
Currently using HyperDroid 1.2 with kernel r11
10507 said:
You could also try out HyperDroid with the update kernel. I am currently using it without problem. With moderate use, I getting about 1.5 day,that without SETCPU setting, with fully charged.
Currently using HyperDroid 1.2 with kernel r11
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Thank you
lill21093 said:
sorry everyones giving you a hard time instead of just answering...Bangsters has wifi tethering and its pretty good...not PPP but still very reliable
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if he would of read bangsters first page he would of known that , i hope you be around to help every single person who ask the same thing , because after about 37 people you will get tired of answering it ...
I've been using hyperdroid for about a week now pretty much without any problems. Wifi tethering works great, infact I am currently using it to post this!
using nexus one android build 2.2 frg33 mccm 1.5 rom with no problems.. everything works perfectly
i've switched off the screen rotation to avoid freezing.. enabled when necessary with a simple shortcut on the home screen..
Thanks everyone. Loving HyperDroid. Now I just have to figure out how to disable the G-Sensor (was built into my previous ROM)... lol
Have cleaned this thread. Its simply not fair to start a war on someone's thread when all they are looking for is a little help, albeit that help might have been asked for originally in the wrong forum.
Please be aware of all of XDA rule 2 here. Also if you can't answer the question or stay on topic then please don't post. It saves a lot of aggravation.
Looking forward to your cooperation here.
WB
I tried quite a few Android ROMs and in my opinion, while great progress has been made, none is good enough for daily use. Unless you are an enthusiast and willing to live with rather frequent freezes and some missing functionality.
This being said, I enjoyed tremendously playing with Android, and I believe it will be my next system. However, I'm using my phone for business and simply cannot live with an unreliable system.
thatruth132 said:
if he would of read bangsters first page he would of known that , i hope you be around to help every single person who ask the same thing , because after about 37 people you will get tired of answering it ...
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Chill out this is not your job do you don't have to do anything just help ppl when you can cuz it over 1000 threads and post no matter how much you read and search you will almost never find your answer unless you ask a question now stop being stuck up and just help ppl or if not go and stress yourself over a job you get paid for!
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I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks
fordking said:
I have yet to figure this out. There is always something wrong with all of these builds. By no means am I complaining because I couldn't do better but just want to know. As in fully I mean wifi tethering, phone speaker, camera, etc. I just want the basic froyo on my US T-Mobile. Nothing extra or fancy or without updating my radio. If I give someone my software info could they help me out? Thanks
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This is the wrong section for this question. But my everyday build is mdeejays http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
or Coredroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8214568&postcount=1
They both work perfectly for me.
Read this page tell all new info added to kernel, most of the roms are fully working only some of them have few issues, ave personally not had many problems
Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
mattc 1.8 with hastarin 7.1 - I can't find anything wrong in this combination, apart from the premature flash when taking photos in the dark. But everything else - is just the purest perfection
Ops and Devs - I know this thread is in the wrong place, but I would advise on letting this live, as it will prove that there is no such thing as best ROM. People will put different ROMs as their favourite - and at the end of the day I am sure that all of the variation will be mentioned at least once - hence proving the point
the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that
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the annoying truth is most of the builds differ from person to person - so the best way to find out which build is best for you, well, you've just got to try it out for yourself!
if you're having problems, you may want to try changing your winmo rom, radio etc, just incase the problems that you're getting are to do with that
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I couldnt agree with you more.
NONE...
Either you get music skip, rotation problems, cam not flashing correctly or wifi and 3g not working correctly, bluetooth problems and sudden freezes, all a bit like good old Windows mobile really, but its getting there...soon it will be the best Android device available
As stated already.
All builds are different, and you will need to find the one that fits you best.
Problem Solved. Running CM7 Build 40 (or later).
Do you have a condensed version of this post?
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
Sounds like you've experienced a mix of software, firmware, and hardware issues and blamed them all on the ROM.
I use Fresh and can do everything that I read (didn't read the entire wall though, you may want to put in some Cliff notes for the lazy.)
I also run launcher pro.
So make one yourself, nothings stopping you, all the pieces and knowledge are free. Your post on here doesn't really serve a purpose.
Tried Calk's EViO 2, Myn's RLS5, Azrael X 2.1-3.1 over the 1st 3 months after I rooted, all had their various issues. Been on Vaelpak for over a month, love it! Dev is quick to respond to problems, even when they're caused by something in my setup. Currently on v 3.1 RC1 (update 2), v3.2 is right around the corner. Gets better every day!
Swyped on my VaelPak'd Supersonic EVO 4G...
It sounds like you want a rom that does what you want and the good news is...you can get it by making it yourself.
Expecting the devs to make something specifically to your tastes especially when most of it is done free of charge is a bit much to be asking.
If you can't make the rom you like on your own then you had better get cracking at fixing the rom with most of your wants working. You said so yourself you are too lazy to fix even a simple font issue yet you want the devs to make all your "i wants" possible. You should at least put in the effort to try to fix the little stuff (font for example) on your own before expecting the devs to do everything for you.
mswlogo said:
I've tried about 10 ROM's over the past couples weeks and if I could put the best features of all them on one it would be great.
This is in no way a report on disatisfaction from efforts from chefs. They are all sharing there time and effort typically on something they want for themselves.
But it seems you have to give up something to get something else.
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on my issues. Like use ROM X but apply this fix or patch.
I know everybody has different criteria for a "Working ROM" some may feel it's critical that Music plays over bluetooth with the phone going half asleep. Another user may want it to look like an iPhone etc.
But I don't need much (IMHO) but I just can't seem to get there.
Keep in mind I could easily live with most of these ROMs. But when you see something working right on one ROM but want it on another you keep hoping you can find a ROM that does everything the way you want or you can make it do so.
What I say I need may be incomplete because some things I take for granted. Like the phone needs to work, LED's for pending messages need to work etc.
1) ASOP Contacts. Why? So I can Click on Navigate to Address with that contact open. If anyone knows how to make HTC Sense Contacts do this I'd love to know. It can only go to stupid Google Maps.
2) Voice and Google Search to Include Contacts (ideally near the top of the list). I think I may have found a reason why it varies. If you shut off "Search As I Type" it behaves much more the way I prefer and Contacts will come right to the top and if you hit search it will then do a google search.
3) BlueTooth. All I use is simple headset that has worked on TP2 and 5 phones before that. It randomly disconnects after a Voice Search. Then leaves Voice Search prompt stuck on screen. Many (All?) sense based ROMs do this. But CM7 ROMs do not.
3a) Bluetooth Volume Resetting. Some ROM's it gets stuck at a low volume. That I can increase each time but it keeps reverting.
4) Solid 100% GPS. All Sense based ROMs work great. CM7 based ones are crap.
5) Battery as good as Stock or better.
6) ESPT (is a very nice to have but not critical).
7) Don't care about 4G or Eye Candy. But I don't want it to be an Eye sore either.
8) As a poor mans confirmation on Voice Search. I noticed on some Rom if you just say Call Fred Smith (WITHOUT saying on mobile) it will prompt Fred Smith on Mobile or Home. This is great !! So at least you know you got the right person. Then you say Mobile (which it rarely gets wrong). It makes the call. This doesn't work on all ROM's.
9) Good support thread. Some ROMs have very little interaction with chef to help get answers and plugs for some things you'd like to see. Some have very good Chef support but and pounded with stupid chatter and you'd have to live in the thread full time to keep up. It's seems the better support a Chef does pulls in more folks that just want to chat about anything.
10) If Click Send Message from a Contact that could actually FILL the To: Phone Number. A lot of ROM's this doesn't work on. Some depend on a Cache that you have an ongoing thread.
I have not tried alternate kernels with Sense Based ROM's perhaps that would solve some bluetooth issues.
CM7 Build 38 looked promising at first glance. But it fell on its face with GPS. Yes I did all the silly tricks. It always finds location and locks quick. But it just refuses to update while navigating. Will occasionally get an update.
NonSense ROM was very close and I may end up going back to it and perhaps with different Kernels because it suffered from Bluetooth issues. Might be time to upgrade BT headset. It's worked so well for so long I hate to give it up.
These are all stock #15 Kernel with lastest Radio and PRL.
Myn - Over themed (Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder I guess) poor contrasts on Fonts. Yes fixable. But I'm too lazy.
NonSense - Bluetooth is really only issue. Battery about same as Stock.
CM7 BLD 38 - Missed calls GPS will lock but not update.
VP3.70 - This really looks quite good but I just didn't have the time to learn which freaken updates to apply. He leans on theming which is low priority for me.
Rainfreak - Not actually installed, he says he addressed bluetooth issues. But he removed EPST and some other critical Sense based things. Might be easy to put back. But he abandoned support
OMJ - I misspoke in other threads this is a pretty nice stock based ROM and I like his thinking. Fine tune the stock stuff. Currently running. Several of the issues listed above (3,3a, 8).
Sprintlovers - Too close to stock, why bother.
Calkulin - Had stability issues with 1.7.7 (even with undervolt removed). 1.8 seems to have fixed that but still has some of my common issues with Sense Based ROM's with none of the pluses of the Hybrid Sense/ASOP ROMs.
MiekFroyo - Too many ROM's I forget what issues I had but I'm sure in the list above.
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the bold part made me stop reading until i seen the part about miks roms ... HA its imho the fastest most stablest sense based rom out there !
about the lazy part please unroot your phone then ... lol to lazy to flash a simple file
CheesyNutz said:
the bold part made me stop reading until i seen the part about miks roms ... HA its imho the fastest most stablest sense based rom out there !
about the lazy part please unroot your phone then ... lol to lazy to flash a simple file
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I don't think his ROM would solve many of my issues any way. If I see a ROM "Over themed" then tend to have different priorities. And I don't want to spend time customizing it. I want one that starts close. Also if the doesn't see this a serious flaw then I suspect I would see other flaws.
Again, nothing against different chefs. Different strokes for different folks.
mswlogo said:
I've tried about 10 ROM's over the past couples weeks and if I could put the best features of all them on one it would be great.
This is in no way a report on disatisfaction from efforts from chefs. They are all sharing there time and effort typically on something they want for themselves.
But it seems you have to give up something to get something else.
I'm hoping someone can shed some light on my issues. Like use ROM X but apply this fix or patch.
I know everybody has different criteria for a "Working ROM" some may feel it's critical that Music plays over bluetooth with the phone going half asleep. Another user may want it to look like an iPhone etc.
But I don't need much (IMHO) but I just can't seem to get there.
Keep in mind I could easily live with most of these ROMs. But when you see something working right on one ROM but want it on another you keep hoping you can find a ROM that does everything the way you want or you can make it do so.
What I say I need may be incomplete because some things I take for granted. Like the phone needs to work, LED's for pending messages need to work etc.
1) ASOP Contacts. Why? So I can Click on Navigate to Address with that contact open. If anyone knows how to make HTC Sense Contacts do this I'd love to know. It can only go to stupid Google Maps.
2) Voice and Google Search to Include Contacts (ideally near the top of the list). I think I may have found a reason why it varies. If you shut off "Search As I Type" it behaves much more the way I prefer and Contacts will come right to the top and if you hit search it will then do a google search.
3) BlueTooth. All I use is simple headset that has worked on TP2 and 5 phones before that. It randomly disconnects after a Voice Search. Then leaves Voice Search prompt stuck on screen. Many (All?) sense based ROMs do this. But CM7 ROMs do not.
3a) Bluetooth Volume Resetting. Some ROM's it gets stuck at a low volume. That I can increase each time but it keeps reverting.
4) Solid 100% GPS. All Sense based ROMs work great. CM7 based ones are crap.
5) Battery as good as Stock or better.
6) ESPT (is a very nice to have but not critical).
7) Don't care about 4G or Eye Candy. But I don't want it to be an Eye sore either.
8) As a poor mans confirmation on Voice Search. I noticed on some Rom if you just say Call Fred Smith (WITHOUT saying on mobile) it will prompt Fred Smith on Mobile or Home. This is great !! So at least you know you got the right person. Then you say Mobile (which it rarely gets wrong). It makes the call. This doesn't work on all ROM's.
9) Good support thread. Some ROMs have very little interaction with chef to help get answers and plugs for some things you'd like to see. Some have very good Chef support but and pounded with stupid chatter and you'd have to live in the thread full time to keep up. It's seems the better support a Chef does pulls in more folks that just want to chat about anything.
10) If Click Send Message from a Contact that could actually FILL the To: Phone Number. A lot of ROM's this doesn't work on. Some depend on a Cache that you have an ongoing thread.
I have not tried alternate kernels with Sense Based ROM's perhaps that would solve some bluetooth issues.
CM7 Build 38 looked promising at first glance. But it fell on its face with GPS. Yes I did all the silly tricks. It always finds location and locks quick. But it just refuses to update while navigating. Will occasionally get an update.
NonSense ROM was very close and I may end up going back to it and perhaps with different Kernels because it suffered from Bluetooth issues. Might be time to upgrade BT headset. It's worked so well for so long I hate to give it up.
These are all stock #15 Kernel with lastest Radio and PRL.
Myn - Over themed (Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder I guess) poor contrasts on Fonts. Yes fixable. But I'm too lazy.
NonSense - Bluetooth is really only issue. Battery about same as Stock.
CM7 BLD 38 - Missed calls GPS will lock but not update.
VP3.70 - This really looks quite good but I just didn't have the time to learn which freaken updates to apply. He leans on theming which is low priority for me.
Rainfreak - Not actually installed, he says he addressed bluetooth issues. But he removed EPST and some other critical Sense based things. Might be easy to put back. But he abandoned support
OMJ - I misspoke in other threads this is a pretty nice stock based ROM and I like his thinking. Fine tune the stock stuff. Currently running. Several of the issues listed above (3,3a, 8).
Sprintlovers - Too close to stock, why bother.
Calkulin - Had stability issues with 1.7.7 (even with undervolt removed). 1.8 seems to have fixed that but still has some of my common issues with Sense Based ROM's with none of the pluses of the Hybrid Sense/ASOP ROMs.
MiekFroyo - Too many ROM's I forget what issues I had but I'm sure in the list above.
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I actually DID read the entire thing and everything you posted works in king's Ultra Froyo, for the most part
carhauler1969 said:
Tried Calk's EViO 2, Myn's RLS5, Azrael X 2.1-3.1 over the 1st 3 months after I rooted, all had their various issues. Been on Vaelpak for over a month, love it! Dev is quick to respond to problems, even when they're caused by something in my setup. Currently on v 3.1 RC1 (update 2), v3.2 is right around the corner. Gets better every day!
Swyped on my VaelPak'd Supersonic EVO 4G...
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I may just go to Vaelpak again (Definitely high on the list). I might just wait for V3.2. His updates are bit confusing. If they are primarily to fix "theme" issues I don't care. Again he has a high priority on Themes. That's fine, lot's folks love that stuff. I don't care about themes.
If VaelPak did some refinements on bluetooth (like Rainfreak said he did). Then it would be high on the list to try again. He spends lot of time on high resolution DPI stuff on themes. Just extra band with I need to sift through. But other threads say it's the Kernel that matters regarding bluetooth. That's not clear.
CheesyNutz said:
the bold part made me stop reading until i seen the part about miks roms ... HA its imho the fastest most stablest sense based rom out there !
about the lazy part please unroot your phone then ... lol to lazy to flash a simple file
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Also sense based Contacts is one of my major issues.
My favorite ROMs are the Hybrids that have some ASOP Gingerbread components that IMHO do it a little better even though not as Eye Candy-ish in some cases.
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I may just go to Vaelpak again (Definitely high on the list). I might just wait for V3.2. His updates are bit confusing. If they are primarily to fix "theme" issues I don't care. Again he has a high priority on Themes. That's fine, lot's folks love that stuff. I don't care about themes.
If VaelPak did some refinements on bluetooth (like Rainfreak said he did). Then it would be high on the list to try again. He spends lot of time on high resolution DPI stuff on themes. Just extra band with I need to sift through. But other threads say it's the Kernel that matters regarding bluetooth. That's not clear.
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it is the kernel that matters for bluetooth.
i think its time for you to start learning how to make your own rom but wait your to lazy . i have a feeling no matter what anyone says here will be good enough for you .
enjoy rom hopping ill enjoy my 20 + hours of battery life with miks 4.5 and 17 hours on CM7
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Sounds like you've experienced a mix of software, firmware, and hardware issues and blamed them all on the ROM.
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Lot of people with broken hardware then because I've seen many of the issues posted by other folks. In fact co-worked has rooted Droid II and he has some very similar issues. Only hardware that may have issues is my headset. But it worked perfect on TP2.
Part of the problems are Froyo 2.2 and some stupid limitation in Google Apps. Which is why I like Hybrid ROMs that have some Gingerbread 2.3 compoents that address some issues.
Full Gingerbread 2.3 ROMs are not ready for prime time yet (for me). I look forward to an official release.
BK553 said:
So make one yourself, nothings stopping you, all the pieces and knowledge are free. Your post on here doesn't really serve a purpose.
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I might, I used Calkulins Kitchen for TP2 and stuck with the same ROM for 7 or so months. But it did take months of F'in around with it to know what works well with what.
Trying to avoid that time sink. By the time I get it "right" Gingerbread 2.3 will probably be out and solve many issues.
HipKat said:
I actually DID read the entire thing and everything you posted works in king's Ultra Froyo, for the most part
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Thanks I had that on my list to look at.
CheesyNutz said:
i think its time for you to start learning how to make your own rom but wait your to lazy . i have a feeling no matter what anyone says here will be good enough for you .
enjoy rom hopping ill enjoy my 20 + hours of battery life with miks 4.5 and 17 hours on CM7
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Well I was kinda under the stupid assumption when I bought the EVO Android worked !!
Now I have to build my own ROM. Geesh.
Again I don't think my list is too demanding. Some issues are pet-peivish, I admit.
Stock battery life is fine with me.
CM7 battery is looking respectable. But the phone fell flat on it's face before it could make it through one battery cycle to really know. When EVERYONE says GPS works I may give CM7 another go. By then my guess is a leaked GingerBread 2.3 will be out.
mswlogo said:
Well I was kinda under the stupid assumption when I bought the EVO Android worked !!
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Last I checked it does work, maybe not how you want it to exactly, but work it does
Now I have to build my own ROM. Geesh.
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QQ
Again I don't think my list is too demanding. Some issues are pet-peivish, I admit.
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I'll address this in a bit
Stock battery life is fine with me.
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Then run stock...
CM7 battery is looking respectable. But the phone fell flat on it's face before it could make it through one battery cycle to really know. When EVERYONE says GPS works I may give CM7 another go. By then my guess is a leaked GingerBread 2.3 will be out.
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How did the phone fall flat on its face? GPS issues?
Basically what you're doing is you're "customering" the developers. You're wanting to take the best pieces of all of them and automagically jam pack them into one ROM completely tailored to your needs. The only way this is going to happen is if you dive in and start helping or you build your own ROM. This post would have served much better purposes had you asked if anyone knows of a ROM that does all of these functions instead of going out and slamming each ROM for what it doesn't have. Each dev is going to take their own work their own way and that's the end of the story. If you don't like it, you have a few options, do your own work or quit your *****ing. There are a lot of things that I would LOVE to see in CM but until I bust out my coding chops or start adding to the development table, there's not much I can really do except thank him for his work, donate, and be happy that there are a ton of people out there donating their time to making this **** better.
I've been having the same problem. Calkulin's is the closest I have come
Started this thread about Zero Hero before I was aloud to post in the Dev threads (yes i was a noob, still am) But I have learned since then....So I edited it in the hopes that no one will post anything else in here and the thread will die!!! I know I bumped it by editing....but lets let this thread die.....
Please take all comments about Zero Hero to the proper Development thread---> Zero Hero Sense 3.5
this shouldve been posted in the roms thread.
Or not at all
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Ebaum1 said:
About to give it a go...will keep you posted. From what I read on the other side of the forums (where I am not allowed to post) it is pretty stable.....
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How is it running? I'm running it on my phone for about half a day and it seems okay.. i was expecting it to run a little bit faster! And r u having problems with sms because I can't seem to receive any messages?
Sorry, I know im a NOOB and all, but is this not the general discussion forum? This is a general discussion about a particular ROM....If i am wrong please correct me and I will gladly STFU and keep my comments to myself.
And for the record the ROM is quite sluggish, reboots when disconnected and reconnected to/from a car charger, incoming calls went straight to VM when answered, mad battery drain, will not reconnect to WIFI....not sure about messages yet...
But on the bright side, it is eye candy.
Ebaum1 said:
Sorry, I know im a NOOB and all, but is this not the general discussion forum? This is a general discussion about a particular ROM....If i am wrong please correct me and I will gladly STFU and keep my comments to myself.
And for the record the ROM is quite sluggish, reboots when disconnected and reconnected to/from a car charger, incoming calls went straight to VM when answered, mad battery drain, will not reconnect to WIFI....not sure about messages yet...
But on the bright side, it is eye candy.
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It always will be sluggish because Sense is a memory hog and the Hero has small memory to begin with. I personally don't run into any reboot excepts for the few after the first boot. As for calls and texts I can't test that because my Hero is deactivated. But I haven't had any issues with WiFi ever on my builds both with college WiFi up in Santa Cruz and at home here in San Diego.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Just calling it like i see it. Not knocking any work, as it is way over my head. The WIFI just kept reverting to "error", no text messages came through, but they did save to Google voice so i did find them...but when I couldn't pick up the calls, I had to abandon this one for now...
Everything else looks awesome from here!
Yea there is a sms problem with this rom.. many of my friends called me asking why I didn't reply to their message but I never received em. Other than that this rom is very nice!!
Fix has already been worked up.
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Just wanted to put in my two cents on this rom. I absolutely love this rom. I tend to run aosp Roms since they are pretty lightweight for our processor and quick. This rom isn't as fast as an aosp rom can be. It does however run quick enough that I don't mind the occasional hang up or lag. I hadn't ran a sense rom in over a year and a half. But I do like this one.
I tend to only use my phone to make calls, the occasional text, and to tether my tablet which this rom seems to do wonderfully. When I was running jaybobs rom I was happy with the clock settings at 352 and 532. I have it cranked up to 768 with this rom. Never had been able to overclock that high until his kernal and was actually a major reason I tried this rom.
You would think that after being a member of xda for more than a year that I would have more than 3 posts but most of the time you guys explain stuff well enough that I don't need to ask any questions.
Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers and people that are willing to answer questions. It is always appreciated even if us "lurkers" don't let you know.
Thanks
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You would think that after being a member of xda for more than a year that I would have more than 3 posts but most of the time you guys explain stuff well enough that I don't need to ask any questions.
Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers and people that are willing to answer questions. It is always appreciated even if us "lurkers" don't let you know.
Thanks
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From a previous lurker, time to quit lurking!!! We need more posters so we can have stuff to talk about! Like MattCrystal said, there's a lot of us out there, so let's post and make it known.
(And I'll try not to shoot down any more stupid questions... unless they're deserving)
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fargond71 said:
Just wanted to put in my two cents on this rom. I absolutely love this rom. I tend to run aosp Roms since they are pretty lightweight for our processor and quick. This rom isn't as fast as an aosp rom can be. It does however run quick enough that I don't mind the occasional hang up or lag. I hadn't ran a sense rom in over a year and a half. But I do like this one.
I tend to only use my phone to make calls, the occasional text, and to tether my tablet which this rom seems to do wonderfully. When I was running jaybobs rom I was happy with the clock settings at 352 and 532. I have it cranked up to 768 with this rom. Never had been able to overclock that high until his kernal and was actually a major reason I tried this rom.
You would think that after being a member of xda for more than a year that I would have more than 3 posts but most of the time you guys explain stuff well enough that I don't need to ask any questions.
Just wanted to say thanks to all the developers and people that are willing to answer questions. It is always appreciated even if us "lurkers" don't let you know.
Thanks
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Appreciate the fact that 1 of your 3 posts is for us!
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
See I know you guys are out there.
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YES
I 100% agree....LONG LIVE ZERO HERO
The RC1 zero hero kicks ass!!
probably one of the fastest sense roms for me.
how do you check to see if the cpu is being clocked correctly.
i keep using and leaving sense because the lag is insane compared to asop.
johnnyboi1994 said:
probably one of the fastest sense roms for me.
how do you check to see if the cpu is being clocked correctly.
i keep using and leaving sense because the lag is insane compared to asop.
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Setcpu works well. Google it and you can find the apk on here
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i do use setcpu. its just that the cpu keeps fluctuating and it doesn't seem to improve too too much
johnnyboi1994 said:
i do use setcpu. its just that the cpu keeps fluctuating and it doesn't seem to improve too too much
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Its a 2 year old phone.. your asking it to do something it CAN'T do. Fact.
I would like to just stop in and say thanks to all who have worked on this. Have not been into the droid scene for long but have learned so much. This rom is my favorite sense type rom. Small time issues that can be overlooked are fine by me. And after backing this rom up and then booting back into stock. Then using titanium backup to back up Sprint TV and a few other things. Then Booting back into Zero Hero and restoring those apps they work flawless. (sorry i have a child who likes to watch that sprint tv, keeps her occupied when im busily getting something done)
Thank you all of you guys. Out of 5 roms i have tried me and my girlfriend like this one the best.