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Well guys, I just bought an Evo. I will be selling my Hero now... it's been fun. Hopefully I can get used to the Evo being giant, but I was just tired of how slow the Hero was. Maybe someone else can give it a new home PM me for details

Have fun, waiting for my dual core phone

theimpaler747 said:
Have fun, waiting for my dual core phone
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im selling once a new one comes out

derekwilkinson said:
im selling once a new one comes out
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Yeah, sounds like a plan

theimpaler747 said:
Have fun, waiting for my dual core phone
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Same here. Then we can stick it to everyone who has a single-core phone haha.

mrinehart93 said:
Same here. Then we can stick it to everyone who has a single-core phone haha.
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Yes sir!

Its like... my wife makes me feel like I am weird. Then I come here and see these conversations... and all is well again.

reedsw said:
Its like... my wife makes me feel like I am weird. Then I come here and see these conversations... and all is well again.
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Lol!!! 10char

theimpaler747 said:
Have fun, waiting for my dual core phone
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I really, really hope that future dual core phones finally get the hardware companies to make better batteries. For instance, the HTC Incredible and EVO only have 1300 and 1500 mah batteries respectively, which is a tad lacking for 1ghz phones, to say the least (though, to be fair, 2.2 has generally really helped with battery life across the board, and usually it seems Android devices need a good week or so to really break the battery in, not to mention you're going to be using the hell out of your new "toy", heh). Interested in seeing how optimized the chips are, power wise.. That alone makes me a tad weary of getting a first-gen model, ya know?
Also, really hope 2.3 and above introduce some much needed hardware acceleration. If there isn't much in the way of that, the overall OS "feel" still won't be as smooth with two cores as say, iOS on a more current iPhone or what have you. I'm going with the optimistic assumption that Google won't drop the ball on that one. Either way, can't wait to see what the upcoming six months brings us, and pray that Sprint doesn't muck things up too badly.

stayclean said:
I really, really hope that future dual core phones finally get the hardware companies to make better batteries. For instance, the HTC Incredible and EVO only have 1300 and 1500 mah batteries respectively, which is a tad lacking for 1ghz phones, to say the least (though, to be fair, 2.2 has generally really helped with battery life across the board, and usually it seems Android devices need a good week or so to really break the battery in, not to mention you're going to be using the hell out of your new "toy", heh). Interested in seeing how optimized the chips are, power wise.. That alone makes me a tad weary of getting a first-gen model, ya know?
Also, really hope 2.3 and above introduce some much needed hardware acceleration. If there isn't much in the way of that, the overall OS "feel" still won't be as smooth with two cores as say, iOS on a more current iPhone or what have you. I'm going with the optimistic assumption that Google won't drop the ball on that one. Either way, can't wait to see what the upcoming six months brings us, and pray that Sprint doesn't muck things up too badly.
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Good points, but even so, I want one!!!

theimpaler747 said:
Good points, but even so, I want one!!!
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The way I see it, if worse comes to worse and I decide, hey, I NEED THIS NOW, I will just sell whatever I replace my Hero with soon, and pay maybe $1-150 max out of pocket. Either way, right now I just want something I can run ScummVM on for those longer than planned bathroom trips.

stayclean said:
The way I see it, if worse comes to worse and I decide, hey, I NEED THIS NOW, I will just sell whatever I replace my Hero with soon, and pay maybe $1-150 max out of pocket. Either way, right now I just want something I can run ScummVM on for those longer than planned bathroom trips.
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Lol, ok ok

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 V Tegra 3 Device

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.

This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait

If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!

lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.

Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.

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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.

i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead

perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.

dan0814 said:
If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.

I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.

I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol

50-3 said:
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector

I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.

galtom said:
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.

poisike said:
As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(

galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.

Kal-El....No Pototype? Watch! Quad-Core Tablets not coming out this year? Not true!

Here is a prototype running Kal-El!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/nvidia-kal-el-development-platform-hands-on-video/
Edit: Browsing with Kal-El -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yab7mv9yOm8&feature=player_embedded
Edit: Benchmark -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VATNyBTPltI&feature=player_embedded#at=36

Having a prototype running proves absolutely NOTHING about when it'll come on mass market!

Ya you're absolutely jumping the gun on this one. That's not only old news but doesn't prove (or even claim) anything we don't already know.

I really don't think we'll see them until 2012. If we do see them earlier, great. I want Tegra 3 AND Android 4.0 though. So unless the late 2011 ones have Ice Cream Sandwich, I'll still hold off. I don't trust any manufacturer enough to let them promise me an ICS upgrade. Maybe Motorola since they're all buddy buddy with Google.

muqali said:
I want Tegra 3 AND Android 4.0 though.
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I'm hoping someone will buy me one as a present. Maybe that Fluffbutt, hmmmmm..

WereCatf said:
I'm hoping someone will buy me one as a present. Maybe that Fluffbutt, hmmmmm..
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I just buy my own presents. More reliable and I always get stuff I want.

.. though there are reports of Asus Padfone with Tegra3 & ICS due out for the Holidays - I'm not holding my breath though.

We wont have Android 4.0 for a while. The next version is supposed to be 2.4.
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its a real shame that tegra2 is out there now and there really arent so many apps/games for it .. and now they are prepping to get another cpu out ...
it kinda makes fell sorry for buying this tablet.

The same happens with all computer hardware. If you wait until the next great thing to come out, you'll never buy anything.

fxandrei said:
its a real shame that tegra2 is out there now and there really arent so many apps/games for it .. and now they are prepping to get another cpu out ...
it kinda makes fell sorry for buying this tablet.
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I'll probably be selling the A500's in Mexico once the Kal-El models come out. I'll be able to sell it for about what they sell for now in the US. I'll make money and it'll be cheaper than if they bought them new here. Win-Win.
I'll have a "Looking To Buy" post in the general discussion, just keep an eye open for it around the turn of the year or when Tegra 3 tabs are available(in stores, not vaporware)

im waiting for Samsung to release a tegra 3 myself. Their tablets are expensive, but they actually support their hardware *demonic glance in Acers direction* and it actually works *laughs at motorolas non functioning micro SD port* and doesn't have so many hardware issues (read: transformer light bleed issues and failing docks)

ohhh my
I just want a new pair of heels.And matching skirt.
OK for real i do not think Acer will support this tab past honeycomb.The same goes for other oems as well.but only time will tell the truth.

erica_renee said:
I just want a new pair of heels.
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Heels... pfft. They're way too girly for me. I use New Rock platformers myself.

The Odom Project said:
im waiting for Samsung to release a tegra 3 myself. Their tablets are expensive, but they actually support their hardware *demonic glance in Acers direction* and it actually works *laughs at motorolas non functioning micro SD port* and doesn't have so many hardware issues (read: transformer light bleed issues and failing docks)
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I may go that route myself, Samsung generally makes good products. Quality near Sony's without the megalomaniacal "make our own standards" in every package. It really sucks the patent crap between Apple and these devices. I'm really hoping that existing patent laws get annihilated soon, but considering politicians are all on the dole I don't see it happening.

muqali said:
I may go that route myself, Samsung generally makes good products. Quality near Sony's without the megalomaniacal "make our own standards" in every package. It really sucks the patent crap between Apple and these devices. I'm really hoping that existing patent laws get annihilated soon, but considering politicians are all on the dole I don't see it happening.
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Ibwouldnt worry too much about patents, no one ever goes anywhere with them. As soon as one company thinks they have the other pinned, something new comes up.

TF2 will be around soon.

Compatible with existing docks and will have ICS.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42382/asus-eee-pad-transformer-2

Ha I just got this info myself from another source that will not mention here...
Dang glad i didn't buy one now.... cause I did find a B60 in my area..and had them put it aside..for this week...
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/10/0...t-will-be-499-no-price-cut-for-transformer-1/

well isnt that just great. Ive had mine for one day. A quad core? Damn!

this is all well and good but im still gonna keep my tf1 with a smile. im sure ICS will be on the tf1 shortly after its available. not worried

Ditto - I can't see quad core being necessary for some time to come. I'll upgrade next year.... when it's six or 8 core for the same price

I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.

xTRICKYxx said:
I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.
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Wow win 8 ok... I'm def buying one or two.

would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!

Windows 8 <<<< Give me a break
I would wait for the TF2.... think about it Quad Core<<<<

how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?

I can say the TF3 will be out in June of 2012 too, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. This is the beginning of media hype. The same thing happened with the original Transformer as well. How many months was it until we had a concrete date, much less hardware in hand? For god sakes, they were showing off hardware 3+ months before it hit stores! Having the CEO say they're preparing, is like me saying I'm preparing for Christmas now.
When we have a date, fine, post threads. But until we have a date, whats the point of having thread, after thread, after thread with every little stupid article about the TF2? It's all hype and nothing more.
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how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?
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It was sorta a crapshoot. In a way...I mean, as you probably are well aware, the people that got bad units (or are just too picky when it comes to backlight bleed) complained the loudest. When you consider the fact that they were selling 100k+ per month, having even 100 people complaining is still only 0.1%. Outside of that, I feel it's good. I have a B50 unit (not one of the even older B40 units) and it's build really solid, I can't complain unless I expect everything to be better than perfect.

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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you're after the looks, why not try the ipad 2? I don't even ow why people will buy the tab for $500.

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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you can find a B60 or below tab I'd go for it. B70 series are hit and miss when it comes to being able to root. Even if you NEVER root it, it's good to have the option IMO.
Quad-core? Not necessary for functioning apps at present. The dual-core TF1 performs beautifully. "Less is More" axiom applies here I believe.
I'd jump to the quad-core ONLY if dual boot with Win8 were an option. Never been a gamer so playing games mean diddly to me. (Win8 option would help with work interface).

Its not going to be thinner? Different Color? More aesthetically pleasing w/ a new dock to match? Only hardware is the difference?
I am dissapoint. I was really hoping that they would have created a more badass version of the TF2. They might as well just called it the TF1S and saved the TF2 monicker for the real deal.

I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.

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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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Windows 8 should be able to run on Tegra 2 so we should have the dual boot capability on the TF1.

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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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source?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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It won't. It will run IceCream Sandwhich. - If there is one thing I've learned it is to take all posts with a grain of salt. Usually it's peoples' personal opinions or prefrences instead of facts.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-ee...ice-cream-sandwich-expected-in-q3q4-20110623/

If it doesn't have digitizer stylus I'll pass. I need the tablet for taking hadwritten notes at work, Transformer 1 is not good for it.

multiple places are reporting that the CEO of Asus has stated that transformer 2 will be coming out shortly (meaning by the end of the month or early next month).
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/news/asus-the-fire-isnt-hot-enough-transformer-2-going-for-499/
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...nd-gen-eee-pad-transformer-on-the-way-1031351
however, the price point says $499...hopefully they are referring to the 32GB model and not the 16GB model. I was really hoping to get this as soon as it came out but if 16GB is at $499..i might wait until closer towards the end of the year to hopefully get a better deal on it once samsung and others come out with their kal-el models.

Eee pad transformer 2 coming soon with video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6MZupUq78&feature=feedu
is include led flash ICS and more

Nice! I wonder if its time to start looking for a buyer for my TF..
I am a bit disappointed that Google didn't bring an ICS tablet beside the new Nexus..

Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!

They were only allowed to release the video after Ics was launched by Sammy last night.

wynand32 said:
Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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we're all on the same boat. a month without the TF is torture but if it's means getting the TF2 (although it's more expensive) next month, i'll do it.

wynand32 said:
Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -

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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -
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Traitor! get out of here

With my electronic fetish I am thinking but
Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.

Ah, so it will be a new device, not just updated hardware. If they fix the speaker and make it lighter and thinner, I am so going to get it.

I can always dump my old transformer on my wife.
Seriously, if we can get an ICS update I would probably stick with my TF1 until the TF2 prices dropped in 6 months to a year. I figured out that if I shoot at 1080p24 on my T2i, my TF1 will play the 1080p video. The only other hardware restriction I had was movies. Dice Player handles those nicely and it's only $5 vs $500.
I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.

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I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.
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And on your relationship

TBH, if the current TF101 gets an ICS update I will be more than happy. If the apps and some games will run on it, then I'll definitely skip this "update" - I like the metal finishing, but just because of more proccessing power (when not really needed) I won't buy it.

you think the dock keyboard will light up?

buffalosolja42 said:
Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.
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yea, but without a latest and greatest gadgets...people will think you have a tiny member

as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets

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as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets
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Wow good luck with your desition

I'll wait until I would be sure that tf2 can be rooted. And considering the time it takes to get the latest B series rooted, my guess is 6 months to 1 year. Hope I'm wrong.

I like the brushed look on the outside case, very cool though I'm not sure if that's enough for me to ditch my Transformer 1.

Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers? Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.

wynand32 said:
Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers. Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.
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While I really love my Transformer, I couldn't agree more. The one thing that just pisses me off the most about my Transformer is the lack of media that I can actually watch on it. Knowing that the newer OMAP4 and Qualcomm chips are much better, and on top of that they are probably almost as good as the Tegra 3, I really feel it's worthwhile to wait. The only thing I feel the Tegra 3 has going for it is the GPU side of things. Right now, TI seems complacent to always include a simple GPU that is inferior to whatever Apple currently has. Why don't we have a GPU the same as Apple? I don't know, but it's disheartening from the gaming side of things. I want more. The only OMAP4 chip that comes close is the 4460...and that won't be out until next year....