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seems like forever....
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only one my friend, only one.
haha i wanted to start a thread like this but didnt want to get laughed at. ive watched so many videos on the evo that im prolly already used to it, this is gonna be the longest 2 days ever
Im doing whatever i can to keep the evo off my mind and make time fly,
today is almost over with just about 12hours to go (at the time of this post)
So all we got is a full day of thursday and im soo pulling a all nighter, if i see a UPS or a fedex truck at a sprint or radio shack store tomorrow, just know you would hear about it on the news jk lol
its good to know im not alone! i think ive read every review at least twice and watched EVERY youtube video that has anything to do with the Evo....cant wait to get my nerdy azz hands on this thing and put it through the paces. were almost there brothers!!!!!!!!!!!
At least you guys are in round 1. Im off by another week. -sigh-
Just think if Sprint had actually advertised this thing...the launch could rival the original iPhone release!
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Just think if Sprint had actually advertised this thing...the launch could rival the original iPhone release!
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Iphone, what's an Iphone? lol
I'll put myself out on a limb here and say that everyone can relate. I personally have never pre-ordered anything nor do I first adopt anything....but ever since the evo was known as the supersonic...I have just been memorized with the device. Ive been re-watching and watching videos/reveiws about this phone for weeks now. pre-ordered the exact same day I found out That it could be pre-ordered knocking notches off my calender. I'm sure the phone will have bugs but what piece of tech doesn't?
I'm coming off of the samsung moment that is an awesome device *thanks to the sdx family* but damn I can't wait to jump ship. I can see myself holding onto this phone for more than my yearly upgrades. I mean if its not broken why replace it right?
I guess I'm lucky, currently stay at home dad. So saying i have to much time on my hands is a understatement. So, i decided to mod my kids wii on monday, and filling a hard drive today of games for it. Then my friend decides he wants his done, so doing it today also. Kids gone all day tomorrow (grandma's house), so i will have my xbox 360 to play. New maps on call of duty modern warfare 2, so that will be good. Now only if more people want me to mod there xbox or wii, i will have more money to spend on accessories.
I am fortunate to be able to be home to teach my kids and help with older kids homework. ( ages: 2,4,6,8 all girls) Not to mention teach myself how to mod different things such as phones, gaming consoles, mp3 players etc..........
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I'll put myself out on a limb here and say that everyone can relate. I personally have never pre-ordered anything nor do I first adopt anything....but ever since the evo was known as the supersonic...I have just been memorized with the device. Ive been re-watching and watching videos/reveiws about this phone for weeks now. pre-ordered the exact same day I found out That it could be pre-ordered knocking notches off my calender. I'm sure the phone will have bugs but what piece of tech doesn't?
I'm coming off of the samsung moment that is an awesome device *thanks to the sdx family* but damn I can't wait to jump ship. I can see myself holding onto this phone for more than my yearly upgrades. I mean if its not broken why replace it right?
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i jumped from the Sansum a900 (blade) to the HTC Touch with winmo 6.0, then i found XDA, flash custom 6.1, 6.5, 6.5.x, android. After 2 or 3 years came the EVO, a good replacement for my old vogue.
I may keep it for the same 2 or 3 years , don't see why not, i don't need to have the last gadget, the only thing i need is fall in love with one.
Marketing.
What drives me crazy is Sprint marketing. Somebody should fire those idiots. We should be seeing lots of commercials about the EVO. That's what sells phones. Only we geeks know about the EVO. What Sprint does? Commercials about the network featuring Dan Hesse. He is a nice person, but those ads are boring. Who cares a bout the network? Everybody knows Sprint network is the best. What they must do is good advertising of phones, like Verizon with the Droid or ATT with Iphone. And not like that retarded ad about the Pre. What are they waiting for?
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I guess I'm lucky, currently stay at home dad. So saying i have to much time on my hands is a understatement. So, i decided to mod my kids wii on monday, and filling a hard drive today of games for it. Then my friend decides he wants his done, so doing it today also. Kids gone all day tomorrow (grandma's house), so i will have my xbox 360 to play. New maps on call of duty modern warfare 2, so that will be good. Now only if more people want me to mod there xbox or wii, i will have more money to spend on accessories.
I am fortunate to be able to be home to teach my kids and help with older kids homework. ( ages: 2,4,6,8 all girls) Not to mention teach myself how to mod different things such as phones, gaming consoles, mp3 players etc..........
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Good to see I'm not the only one, doing it, i have 2 girls, 2 and 9, i moded the WII too, lol but i don't have Xbox, i do have a PS3 (socom comfrontation online player) but so far no mods, and of course i learn to mod my phone too. i guess i'm fortunate too.
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Good to see I'm not the only one, doing it, i have 2 girls, 2 and 9, i moded the WII too, lol but i don't have Xbox, i do have a PS3 (socom comfrontation online player) but so far no mods, and of course i learn to mod my phone too. i guess i'm fortunate too.
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Yeah no mods for ps3 that i have found which sucks, awsome system there
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I'll put myself out on a limb here and say that everyone can relate. I personally have never pre-ordered anything nor do I first adopt anything....but ever since the evo was known as the supersonic...I have just been memorized with the device. Ive been re-watching and watching videos/reveiws about this phone for weeks now. pre-ordered the exact same day I found out That it could be pre-ordered knocking notches off my calender. I'm sure the phone will have bugs but what piece of tech doesn't?
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my sentiments eXACTly!! I'm not a fan, nor do I condone emotional spending (i.e. early adopting) but this one surpasses mere emotion..it's truly a beast I can keep unleashed in public, not confined to my home (i.e. PCs or consoles) Can't wait!
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my sentiments eXACTly!! I'm not a fan, nor do I condone emotional spending (i.e. early adopting) but this one surpasses mere emotion..it's truly a beast I can keep unleashed in public, not confined to my home (i.e. PCs or consoles) Can't wait!
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Agreed, this is one piece of tech I can't wait to show off!
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What drives me crazy is Sprint marketing. Somebody should fire those idiots. We should be seeing lots of commercials about the EVO. That's what sells phones. Only we geeks know about the EVO. What Sprint does? Commercials about the network featuring Dan Hesse. He is a nice person, but those ads are boring. Who cares a bout the network? Everybody knows Sprint network is the best. What they must do is good advertising of phones, like Verizon with the Droid or ATT with Iphone. And not like that retarded ad about the Pre. What are they waiting for?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693890
better late than never.
I don't know how I'm going to get any work done on Friday.
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Agreed, this is one piece of tech I can't wait to show off!
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Exactly! One friend of mine has the HTC incredible, another is an apple fan boy... i cant wait to poop on them
what makes it bad is i got my case and screencover from the fedx man yesterday afternoon
Once again the folks at the Forbidden Fruit company are a step ahead. I love my phone but with a company like HTC who is growing at such a fast pace, they should have stepped up and provided these features before the monopolized company did.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not *****ing about my Incredible because it is a fantastic phone but the war is waged and as always Apple is ahead of the game. (And all my stupid iPhone friends are gloating.. )
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This would be the same Apple that just introduced multi-tasking and folders?
Oh yeah, they're way ahead of the game, if you're the kind of person to get duped into donating money to something called a 'Genius Bar' for that technology that's so intuitive you never need any help with it.
We will probably get 720p recording via a hack soon since the N1 just got it.
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This would be the same Apple that just introduced multi-tasking and folders?
Oh yeah, they're way ahead of the game, if you're the kind of person to get duped into donating money to something called a 'Genius Bar' for that technology that's so intuitive you never need any help with it.
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Point taken, I realize that HTC has technology that came out before Apple. Maybe its just a marketing thing and they already have these things for the next Gen but I figured it would be a hell of a smashing of Apple if those simple things were available, especially with how powerful this phone already is..
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Point taken, I realize that HTC has technology that came out before Apple. Maybe its just a marketing thing and they already have these things for the next Gen but I figured it would be a hell of a smashing of Apple if those simple things were available, especially with how powerful this phone already is..
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There's no maybe about it - 720p recording is limited by software, not HTC, and has already been done with the N1, likely a part of Froyo for the DI.
And video conferencing? Well, Apple can make it sound like it's leading the way there all they want. HTC and Android did it before the 4g with the Evo, and there have been other videoconferencing phones before that as well (Nokia stands out in my mind).
And would someone care to explain to me why videoconferencing only over WiFi is such a big deal? That's not a minor limitation - if they wanted to do something useful/groundbreaking, it'd be possible to videoconference over 3/4G. Of course, if that were the case, what's left of the AT&T network would collapse in the first day.
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There's no maybe about it - 720p recording is limited by software, not HTC, and has already been done with the N1, likely a part of Froyo for the DI.
And video conferencing? Well, Apple can make it sound like it's leading the way there all they want. HTC and Android did it before the 4g with the Evo, and there have been other videoconferencing phones before that as well (Nokia stands out in my mind).
And would someone care to explain to me why videoconferencing only over WiFi is such a big deal? That's not a minor limitation - if they wanted to do something useful/groundbreaking, it'd be possible to videoconference over 3/4G. Of course, if that were the case, what's left of the AT&T network would collapse in the first day.
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even voice over wifi takes up too much bandwidth, the man himself had to tell everybody to get off the wifi so his "revolutionary" POS can make a video call, I laughed when I read the specs and laughed even harder when his video calling didn't work, and the video calling is limited to IOS 4 users only, so no video calling g-ma like he wants because g-ma would need an iphone with IOS 4 on it but she is smart enough not to get an apple product. (well mine is anyway) even unrooted my DI is better than that thing.
I had a Motorola Razor x from europe that had a front camera back in 04 or 05. It did me no good when I came back to the states because no carriers supported video conferencing so it is not a new technology like they try to make it out to be....
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even voice over wifi takes up too much bandwidth, the man himself had to tell everybody to get off the wifi so his "revolutionary" POS can make a video call, I laughed when I read the specs and laughed even harder when his video calling didn't work, and the video calling is limited to IOS 4 users only, so no video calling g-ma like he wants because g-ma would need an iphone with IOS 4 on it but she is smart enough not to get an apple product. (well mine is anyway) even unrooted my DI is better than that thing.
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LOLz. iPone4=fail.
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Apple is behind the curve, and they know it. Anyone who has iPone envy better get a brain first.
To the OP, there will always be some things that one phone has that another doesn't, you just have to pick your poison. I could easily be using an EVO right now (I actually switched from Sprint to Verizon and I have 4G coverage in my area), but I decided I wanted to go with the Incredible. Something new will always be coming out that has features you wish you had on your phone (it doesn't help that iPhone fanboys will taunt you mercilessly on the web if they find out you don't have one and they do; it's even worse in real life).
Also when I say "fanboys", first it could apply to any sex and also I am not referring to the causal or even hardcore fans (fanboys are people that live for creating flamebait where it need not exist). I made enough money programming and then selling off several APIs for the iPhone OS 2.x/3.x (sorry I just think iOS looks weird) to pay back most of my student loans so sure I like the iPhone/iPod Touch (never got to work with an iPad); at the same time I would never have an iPhone as my primary mobile phone by choice.
Also I hadn't heard about the Incredible receiving an upgrade and/or hack for 720p recording, but I've always felt that it had that ability so that's nice to see.
A little biased opinions here as well, including myself. In many regards the incredible is better but let's face some facts that the iPhone has done some groundbreaking stuff in terms of hardware and software. They have proof in units they have pushed.
In the end I would still rather have the Inc rooted or unrooted vs iPhone jail broken or not. I've tried both and hardware wise Inc wins even though iPhone screen is better in response. Os wise android wins again. Hands down.
We incredible users have the exact same camera as the Evo 4g which is 720p supported.. so it has nothing to do with the hardware, but the software. It is inevitable that someone will make a hack and unlock the true potential of the incredible camera.
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This would be the same Apple that just introduced multi-tasking and folders?
Oh yeah, they're way ahead of the game, if you're the kind of person to get duped into donating money to something called a 'Genius Bar' for that technology that's so intuitive you never need any help with it.
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lmao and the same apple that finally put a flash on the iPhone for the camera hahahah
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We incredible users have the exact same camera as the Evo 4g which is 720p supported.. so it has nothing to do with the hardware, but the software. It is inevitable that someone will make a hack and unlock the true potential of the incredible camera.
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It's not just the camera that is needed for this, the chipset also needs to support it. Of course the incredible chipset is the same as the Evo, so you're good there.
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Once again the folks at the Forbidden Fruit company are a step ahead. I love my phone but with a company like HTC who is growing at such a fast pace, they should have stepped up and provided these features before the monopolized company did.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not *****ing about my Incredible because it is a fantastic phone but the war is waged and as always Apple is ahead of the game. (And all my stupid iPhone friends are gloating.. )
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New retina technology is impressive but Samsung already has an answer to that, Super AMOLED. its only a matter of time before HTC starts purchasing those screens, just like it buys AMOLED and putting them on their phones
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There's no maybe about it - 720p recording is limited by software, not HTC, and has already been done with the N1, likely a part of Froyo for the DI.
And video conferencing? Well, Apple can make it sound like it's leading the way there all they want. HTC and Android did it before the 4g with the Evo, and there have been other videoconferencing phones before that as well (Nokia stands out in my mind).
And would someone care to explain to me why videoconferencing only over WiFi is such a big deal? That's not a minor limitation - if they wanted to do something useful/groundbreaking, it'd be possible to videoconference over 3/4G. Of course, if that were the case, what's left of the AT&T network would collapse in the first day.
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Take a step back. I'm still using a K850i from Sony Ericsson when I'm out of the USA that was made at least 4 maybe 5 years ago. It had video conferencing on it using a 3G network. That is the Europe/Asia boys for you. This phone was not sold in the USA by any of the locally known carriers. Check the specs. That long ago with a xenon flash and 5 meg camera. The USA is still playing catch up. I am still looking for the phone running on an Android platform, can work on All USA, Asia, and European networks GSM & CDMA with a high quality camera. Don't get me wrong but the K850i photos run rings around the Incredible. That said, the Incredible is still my favorite.
I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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Did you also see that it's been removed in a custom rom?
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I know the cap's been discussed ... but this drives it home...
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/droid-x-vs-htc-evo-vs-google-nexus-one-in-benchmark-face-off/
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Good video for the benchmarks. Devs here add untold value to the Evo though (30fps cap already taken care of).
I am glad the bar keeps being set higher. I need something to convince me to buy a new phone when my contract is up in October and graduate the Evo to my girlfriend. =)
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Good video for the benchmarks. Devs here add untold value to the Evo though (30fps cap already taken care of).
I am glad the bar keeps being set higher. I need something to convince me to buy a new phone when my contract is up in October and graduate the Evo to my girlfriend. =)
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How is it taken care off? Doesn't the fix break the camera?
Wow, I really would like a droid x now. compared to the droid x the evo...well doesn't even compare. FML
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How is it taken care off? Doesn't the fix break the camera?
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Yea but all this has already been done without even have source code for our phone imagine what will be done once that's released
Plus if I where you I would hold off till a tegra2 Android phone is released they'll make the Droid x and the galaxy look like nothing compared to it
Even with the source released, the Droid X will beat out the EVO... The EVO doesn't have a dedicated graphics chip, rather an integrated one.
The Adreno has a lot more power to it than is being used... but don't hold your breath on HTC ever tapping the OpenGL ES 2.0 capabilities of the device and thus increasing performance...
This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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What's the point? You'll pay Verizon a hell of a lot more money for less service - lose the ability to have 4G - and Verizon is talking about capping data just like at&t has recently done...
Its not like there are that many games out there that can take advantage of the hardware in the EVO anyway.
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This is sad...makes me want to take my Evo back.
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I felt the same, but then I sat down and thought a bit. Sure, if I want the most ridiculous benchmark munching phone out there I would return my Evo in a heartbeat and crack open a couple piggy banks to go on Verizon to get the Droid x, but honestly, I tried the uncapped Evo out, and holy mother Jesus God it does everything I need to at lightning speed.
One thing I should mention is that I don't play games on my Evo. iPod Touch for that.
Droid X for me is overkill and it costs a huge wad more money. If you wish to always have the best phone out there, it is going to cost an arm, a leg, and then some. I think Evo is good enough for someone who just got off an enV2. Makes my old phone look like a sundial.
Don't forget Verizon's 350 dollar ETF either...
The Droid X is undoubtedly nice, but I couldn't imagine having a phone that isn't seriously backed by the XDA community. And the Evo plays all the games I want to play fine, even with the cap. I'm running the t2 kernel now, the phone flies with the latest DC ROM.
Our phone may not be the best at everything, but it's a damn nice phone on a good network at a great price. You can't enjoy the phone if all you're doing is looking at others.
an uncapped evo can play any game out right now so i dont see the big deal..and cappable of playing nfss(pre loaded on droid x) they did demo the game on evo 1st..until htc capped it so they decided to release it with droid x instead..i mean come on its not like there is a crysis type game graphic wise that will require dedicated graphic cards
I take what I said back. I think the video I downloaded had an issue because I just watched another source of the same clip and holy **** its butter. My interest in this device has just been recharged.
Yeah...I do know that...but the decision making that led to that (Sprint of course)..just gets me. Are they not aware that high end devices like this are purchased by extremely tech savvy folks and are gonna be fully aware they're throttling capacity....
Ah well....let it go...
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From what I can tell the only thing over the EVO that the Droid X has is dedicated graphics. On the other hand the EVO has 4G. The most intense games I play on my phone are games like solitaire, haha. 4G is way worth the trade for me. If you're really looking for a gaming phone then maybe the Droid X is the way to go. Is rather have the EVO and then get a 3Ds or a PSP. To each their own.
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From what I can tell the only thing over the EVO that the Droid X has is dedicated graphics. On the other hand the EVO has 4G. The most intense games I play on my phone are games like solitaire, haha. 4G is way worth the trade for me. If you're really looking for a gaming phone then maybe the Droid X is the way to go. Is rather have the EVO and then get a 3Ds or a PSP. To each their own.
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3ds...whooppp!!!!
Maybe it's just me and probably it has to do with the fact that i'm a broke soon to be college kid. I don't get how some of your jump from one device on an entirely different carrier to another, just for the bigger stick effect. Wasn't directed towards anyone. Just saying, The evo just came out and I know we are all with-in our 30 day return limit for just about another week, but the some of you are already dribbling over the droid x, and i'm sure the same will happen when another OMG this phone is better because of this one extra thing comes out a month later.
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Maybe it's just me and probably it has to do with the fact that i'm a broke soon to be college kid. I don't get how some of your jump from one device on an entirely different carrier to another, just for the bigger stick effect. Wasn't directed towards anyone. Just saying, The evo just came out and I know we are all with-in our 30 day return limit for just about another week, but the some of you are already dribbling over the droid x, and i'm sure the same will happen when another OMG this phone is better because of this one extra thing comes out a month later.
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Well in my case I have family plans with both Sprint and At&t so moving my At&t lines which are all out of contract wouldn't cost a nickle more per month on Verizon and can gain the FOTM device that I want. With Sprint I use the other people's upgrades and they get hand me downs (one of the perks of paying the bills) so upgrades are plentiful.
there's not even any games that take advantage of the Droids GPU so why complain? Android still gets crappy games compared to the Iphone.
I really don't get it, someone posts a legitimate thread, take for instance the thread about Froyo 2.2 and you have people, from an EVO forum come and rip on the device and Samsung. I just dont get the point of trolling another forum, when all of these phones are running android operating systems. I mean do iPhone 3GS people from iPhone 3G people and iPhone 4 people troll the 3GS and the 3G, I really dont know and couldnt tell you but the immaturity is just astounding.
I too would like to know when 2.2 will be released, this is a very good question but for someone to post this and not get any useful information other than the usual. Oh if samsung doesnt have an update out by the end of this month im going back to the EVO or some other phone...Well I felt like ranting.
Also, many people have been saying many phones will be having 3.0 Gingerbread by the time we have 2.2 Does this have any merit to this?
No clue to 2.2 and no clue to 3.0. Really... I have no clue.
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People that say that are just trying to troll you. They think that because they have 2.2, they can rip on everyone else that still has 2.1.
There are rumors of 2.2 hitting us in October\November. Gingerbread doesn't get released til January I believe.
I said that I'm not willing to stick with the Epic past the 30 day return period for a reason. We all know that Samsung as a company has been flakey with updates.
I paid a good deal of money for a device that I expect to be supported and updated within the companies own claimed schedule.
Stating that I'm gonna switch to a different phone if the company proves to not be reliable only means that I'm NOT going to get roped into a 2 year contract with the phone when I could exchange the phone within the 30 day period, and get a phone that IS being supported or even canceling my Sprint plan and going back to TMobile.
posted from a EPIC4G.
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I said that I'm not willing to stick with the Epic past the 30 day return period for a reason. We all know that Samsung as a company has been flakey with updates.
I paid a good deal of money for a device that I expect to be supported and updated within the companies own claimed schedule.
Stating that I'm gonna switch to a different phone if the company proves to not be reliable only means that I'm NOT going to get roped into a 2 year contract with the phone when I could exchange the phone within the 30 day period, and get a phone that IS being supported or even canceling my Sprint plan and going back to TMobile.
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Good for you. I think what Blitz is saying here is that nobody in the Epic forums really cares about people who aren't using the Epic. And I agree. I didn't go in the EVO forums and tell everyone that I'm switching to the Epic because of all the reasons I like it more. Ya know why? They don't care.
Its cause the people on the EVO forums are jealous of the hardware on the device so they need to justify their purchase by bashing ours :/
As for Froyo, we will know better by end of September as samsung promised to release Froyo by then (rumor pins it at sept 23rd)..once we have a basis it will be easier to predict...my only concern is that if they are gonna do Froyo my guess is it will be about time to give us TouchWiz 3...so if that would delay things I don't know...a person on the other forums said a sprint rep told them Epic is gonna get update with all the other Galaxy S phones (but we all know how reliable sprint reps are)...I guess thats all I can say...
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Its cause the people on the EVO forums are jealous of the hardware on the device so they need to justify their purchase by bashing ours :/
As for Froyo, we will know better by end of September as samsung promised to release Froyo by then (rumor pins it at sept 23rd)..once we have a basis it will be easier to predict...my only concern is that if they are gonna do Froyo my guess is it will be about time to give us TouchWiz 3...so if that would delay things I don't know...a person on the other forums said a sprint rep told them Epic is gonna get update with all the other Galaxy S phones (but we all know how reliable sprint reps are)...I guess thats all I can say...
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There's also people who claim to be reps making promises and when it turns out to be different people get mad. Personally I wouldn't trust any information from a "rep" as they could be lying at the fact they are a "rep." I believe we will get an update as the CEO of Samsung stated we will. He didn't say when so they have from then till the end of the world to deliver unless he specified a date.
As my father says "The internet is full of people who will lie to you, and it's best to not trust any information unless it comes from the source."
Well, people did say the Epic was getting an MR on Sep 16, and sure enough, it did.
I've had some faith restored in Samsung. Either way, I'm already pretty happy with the phone, and even if they didn't release 2.2 (which I'm pretty confident they will), someone else will.
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Well, people did say the Epic was getting an MR on Sep 16, and sure enough, it did.
I've had some faith restored in Samsung. Either way, I'm already pretty happy with the phone, and even if they didn't release 2.2 (which I'm pretty confident they will), someone else will.
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No, it didn't. At least not for everyone. I am one of them, and I'm pissed. I hit "update android" at least once an hour and it always says my phone is up to date.
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No, it didn't. At least not for everyone. I am one of them, and I'm pissed. I hit "update android" at least once an hour and it always says my phone is up to date.
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But they did keep their word. It was released on the 16th. They didn't say "to everyone" or "on the 16th and ONLY the 16th" they said "release on the 16th".
We can't assume something and then get mad because our assumption doesn't match the facts.
For what it's worth, I'm still waiting for the update message on my phone.
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I said that I'm not willing to stick with the Epic past the 30 day return period for a reason. We all know that Samsung as a company has been flakey with updates.
I paid a good deal of money for a device that I expect to be supported and updated within the companies own claimed schedule.
Stating that I'm gonna switch to a different phone if the company proves to not be reliable only means that I'm NOT going to get roped into a 2 year contract with the phone when I could exchange the phone within the 30 day period, and get a phone that IS being supported or even canceling my Sprint plan and going back to TMobile.
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I apologize that this seemed so directed at you I was crabby last night and apologize I really didn't help the trolling lol peace
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I'm on SERO patiently awaiting 10/1 so I can upgrade and was on the fence for Evo v/s Epic. My experiences with HTC devices on WM have generally been very good (although as a WM power user I've long since given up waiting on the manufacturer for software updates.) Still, I know the general rep of HTC was much stronger than Samsung in this space and I'm hoping I won't have to spend as much time tweaking my device once I switch to Android - I'm hoping to just sit back and USE it more as an average joe would.
But despite Samsung's track record I'm rather optimistic about their possibilities this time as they seem to be putting a LOT of effort behind the entire Galaxy lineup/brand. I just have a hard time seeing them doing that without offering decent update support. Right now I'm leaning toward the Epic as hardware's just extremely compelling. I'm actually optimistic/hopeful that by 10/1 I'll be able to buy one that'll ship with Froyo already installed.
wow, samsung managed to get their own revenue generating product out on time. that restored my faith in their priorities. At this point, I really love the epic, but unless sprint fixes the upload speed or waives the data fee, its not really worth the price.
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Well, people did say the Epic was getting an MR on Sep 16, and sure enough, it did.
I've had some faith restored in Samsung. Either way, I'm already pretty happy with the phone, and even if they didn't release 2.2 (which I'm pretty confident they will), someone else will.
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yeah before any of the EVO can even begin to open their mouths about 2.2, they really need to look at the facts. As a sprint store tech, i get to see every evo that comes in with all their problems. just a few:
1. 2.2 update OTA ruined alot of EVOs. the OTA update could have saved the /data/app and wiped everything out on the phone, but instead it just installed and about 38% of them had to come in and get their phones wiped out just so it could even be used. we wont talk about the number of devices that dont have connectivity to 4G afterwards.
2. Battery life on the EVO sucks. even with newer bfs kernels. my roomate has the evo. he can generally get up at 8, get back from work at 6 with maybe 20% left (heavy user). My phone on the other hand, (before i flashed the andromeda kernel) i got to work at 9, used the phone heavily to play psx4droid and watch movies most of the day, and still got home 13 hours later with 60% battery left.
3. psx4droid runs flawlessly (minus graphical glitches in psx4droid) on my Epic. 60 frames per second. multi touch screen works to play metal gear solid and Twisted Metal 2 using on screen keyboard. On my roomates EVO, even with a different kernel, multitouch kinda works for 2 keys at once, i can only go 50 frames a second, and is generally more glitchy. airplane mode is a must because if a text message comes through, it glitches and skipps alot.
4. video playback. download an avatar bluray dump. roughly 5 gig mastroka file. place on SD card. beautiful beautiful picture. and its a .mkv file. no need to convert it. no need for anything. drop and watch. Evo....not so much. gotta convert .mkv to a .mp4, drop some of the clairity because the conversion is like 8-11 gigs and thats not easy to just carry around.
but how many Epic users go into the Evo forums and smear this in everyones faces?
to each their own....but ill go ahead and keep mines
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4. video playback. download an avatar bluray dump. roughly 5 gig mastroka file.
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How did you copy over a 5GB file when the file system doesn't let you move a file larger than 4GB?
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How did you copy over a 5GB file when the file system doesn't let you move a file larger than 4GB?
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good question. I watched an 720p rip of The Boondocks in mkv format. Beautiful video!!
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good question. I watched an 720p rip of The Boondocks in mkv format. Beautiful video!!
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I've seen Iron Man 2, Avatar, and Star Trek in 720p. Avatar was actually the same aspect ratio of the phone, which made it look even better. And the colors of Avatar really, really pop on the phone. By far the most beautiful movie I've seen on this screen (not the best, mind you... the movie itself is kinda lame).
I gotta get my epic NOW after hearing all you guys says how good movies look on it. I have a samsung moment
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haha i estimated "roughly 5 gigs" the same way manufacturers calculate their sd cards.
actually its like a 3.9 gig file, i just mistyped a 5 instead of a 4 and was too lazy to go back and correct it.
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2. Battery life on the EVO sucks. even with newer bfs kernels. my roomate has the evo. he can generally get up at 8, get back from work at 6 with maybe 20% left (heavy user). My phone on the other hand, (before i flashed the andromeda kernel) i got to work at 9, used the phone heavily to play psx4droid and watch movies most of the day, and still got home 13 hours later with 60% battery left.
3. psx4droid runs flawlessly (minus graphical glitches in psx4droid) on my Epic. 60 frames per second. multi touch screen works to play metal gear solid and Twisted Metal 2 using on screen keyboard. On my roomates EVO, even with a different kernel, multitouch kinda works for 2 keys at once, i can only go 50 frames a second, and is generally more glitchy. airplane mode is a must because if a text message comes through, it glitches and skips alot.
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That is pretty astounding battery life for the epic. Do you take any extra measures to try and increase the epics battery life.
For psx4droid do yoou keep it muted? I have yet to find a game that can run flawless sound. I have only tried 6-7 games but all of them were jerky at best(sound) the video does run very good but get lagged when it has to slowdown to keep the sound synced. Have you tried chrono cross? I love that game but it was not to playable for me.
I got a week "preview" of the epic then returned it when sero premium rumors bubbled up(God bless the 30 day return). Now I am trying to wait until 10/1 to jump back in.
I just finished arranging my Xoom in its original packaging and placed it back in its Verizon bag to go back as soon as tomorrow. Unfortunately after some heated internal debating ive decided that the Xoom is not the Tablet for me.
My first experience with Android was with my beloved EVO 4G and ive since become very fond of its in and outs. I hoped i would feel the same way with the Xoom and Android in Tablet form. Unfortunately some glaring ommisions and simply blatant misguided intentions keep me from loving what is an otherwise spectacular piece of hardware.
First off, for a device that claims to be a true Ipad competitor one of the most important areas to address is MEDIA. My mom has an Ipad 3g that i purchased and set up for her and everything runs flawlessly in its limited ecosystem. The Xoom while a much more capable piece of hardware is severely lacking in its implemented media delivery system. How a tablet could even be shipped without a dedicated video player is just beyond absurd to me(im sorry GALLERY is NOT the first place anyone would look to find movies) That wouldnt even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that getting movies on your device is simple enough but watching them is a downright chore. On the Ipad most video formats arent supported, but with one simple app i was able to load any movie i wanted and play it without the hassle of Itunes compatability. Xoom on the other hand has had me spend HOURS converting and researching Video files and codecs and converters just to get a movie to play on my Xoom without the framerate of dialup porn in the 90's. Ive made great progress with this as well, but why should i have to? If i werent me and i were just your average consumer i would be completely lost and frustrated.
So right out the gate weve got a
-4G tablet with NO 4G(pending)
-Expandable Memory(Pending)
-Flash Support(Pending)
-HD Video support(De-Pending on how computer savvy you are)
But ultimately the True Nail in the coffin for me was VERIZON. I chose to go the subsidized route due to the absence of a WiFi only option. I figured i was getting the WiFI version/price plus 3G if i wanted it. But after some hard thinking i realized.... I HATE VERIZON. We have a sordid past involving a cellphone i once had( a MOTOROLA btw, first and only ive ever owned) that wound up leaving me permanently soured on that particular carrier. So the fact that i was so anxious to get a Xoom that i actually got back in bed with these guys took a couple of days to set in. But being that im an avid early adopter i decided i could not be contractually obligated to a first Gen piece of hardware for two years.
I truly believe that the Xoom has potential up the wahzoo. But i cant allow myself to be suckered into playing the waiting game like some lonely side piece waiting for their lover to drop the axe on his marriage. I think there is a place for the Xoom in my life, but only in Wifi form and @ $600 unsubsidized. Once that becomes a reality then i will likely be back for seconds. Until then ill have to swallow my $70 restocking fee but atleast ill be $580 richer and VERIZONless. isnt thats what relly matters in the end?
So... if i read that right.. Your one complaint that you didn't know about before hand was the video player. That's totally understandable.
The rest of it is just plain *****ing, you knew about all of those things BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT and you're just coming here to ***** for no reason.
Sorry I'm just so tired of these posts, everyone knows what the xoom is/isn't capable of, yet they go and pay $800 then ***** about it non stop.
Some people like to buy things, play with them for a week, and then decide to return them based on things they knew when they bought them. Then they come on forums and complain about a device they no longer own.
What kind of responses do you want, do you want us to feel sorry for you?
And let me get this straight....you payed $799 for the Xoom, and now your going to pay a $70 restocking fee. Yet an $600 WiFi only model 2 months down the road sounds good to you? What?
you are one pissed off dude
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So... if i read that right.. Your one complaint that you didn't know about before hand was the video player. That's totally understandable.
The rest of it is just plain *****ing, you knew about all of those things BEFORE YOU BOUGHT IT and you're just coming here to ***** for no reason.
Sorry I'm just so tired of these posts, everyone knows what the xoom is/isn't capable of, yet they go and pay $800 then ***** about it non stop.
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Actually no one knows that the Xoom isn't capable of playing back what everyone would consider HD media, because they sell it on this point in every commercial without feeling the need to clarify that its only in their VERY specific and unused form of 720p and 1080p that videos actually play. Everyone who asks me about the Xoom is surprised to hear that its dual core processor and eight core GPU is incapable of playing back HD h.264 in high profile, which is what everyone has. And it IS a Tegra 2 issue. I had an owner of a Notion Ink test on video that a high profile video is incapable of being played on the Notion Ink, so the claim made by multiple people here that its a lack of codecs for the Xoom seems to be false. The video is posted in the general section.
As for the other issues, yea the OP pretty much spent money on something knowing its shortcomings and is complaining about his bad decision. And how do you sign a 2 year contract with a company that you hate???
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Actually no one knows that the Xoom isn't capable of playing back what everyone would consider HD media, because they sell it on this point in every commercial without feeling the need to clarify that its only in their VERY specific and unused form of 720p and 1080p that videos actually play. Everyone who asks me about the Xoom is surprised to hear that its dual core processor and eight core GPU is incapable of playing back HD h.264 in high profile, which is what everyone has. And it IS a Tegra 2 issue. I had an owner of a Notion Ink test on video that a high profile video is incapable of being played on the Notion Ink, so the claim made by multiple people here that its a lack of codecs for the Xoom seems to be false. The video is posted in the general section.
As for the other issues, yea the OP pretty much got spent money on something knowing its shortcomings and is complaining about his bad decision.
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That's what I meant when I said there was one issue he didn't know about.
That's what I love about android it doesn't hold your hand and wipe your ass so to speak. Its and operating system that is full customizable. Hell you couldn't even change the wallpaper on an iPhone for years.....
The lack of video player makes sense but the fact that you can download any player out want makes up for it. Rockplayer lite can play pretty much any video you can throw at it.
SKReeettttt... hold [email protected]!!
I was merely pointing out the main points to why im choosing to return my XOOM but i just figured my post was long enough without tunring this into a miniseries. I dont expect any sympathy. I totally admit that i made a choice and in the end decided that it wasnt the right choice for me, thats all. Im allowed to change my mind arent i?. No i didnt pay 799. I payed 599(subsidized) which meant ill be on contract with Verizon for 2 years until the Ipad 4 comes out (not cool).
I did all of my homework before making this purchase. But even given that info without any solid confirmations from a number of companies until literally the 11th hour alot of it was guesswork. So i became my own guinea pig and if all it costs me is 70 bucks i think i got off easy.
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SKReeettttt... hold [email protected]!!
I was merely pointing out the main points to why im choosing to return my XOOM but i just figured my post was long enough without tunring this into a miniseries. I dont expect any sympathy. I totally admit that i made a choice and in the end decided that it wasnt the right choice for me, thats all. Im allowed to change my mind arent i?. No i didnt pay 799. I payed 599(subsidized) which meant ill be on contract with Verizon for 2 years until the Ipad 4 comes out (not cool).
I did all of my homework before making this purchase. But even given that info without any solid confirmations from a number of companies until literally the 11th hour alot of it was guesswork. So i became my own guinea pig and if all it costs me is 70 bucks i think i got off easy.
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Ipad4??????? I plan to have the xoom 3.
After all these post it seems they have I pad experience and want to go back to the drone life
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I sympathize with your frustration. Despite all the sugar coating and the feel good positive self help encouragement on this board, the reality is, that there really isn't an excuse for a device to have these shortcomings. If its not ready to be released don't release it.
I am amazed at how much crap people will put up with. $800 + tax to spend hours encoding videos -SERIOUSLY!!
Seems like every other post is some form of be patient and their will be unicorns and roses and sunshine just around the corner.
I am willing to bet you guys are all 100% right about all the fixes. Last I checked the turn-around time for new tech these days is about the time it takes to blink.
By the time the fixes are available, they will likely all be distributed in one, complete, non downloadable format called the XOOM 2.
Some of you are very defensive!
The OP knew the device had some shortcomings but wanted to give it a shot anyway. He did, and found more things he had an issue with. He doesn't want a 2year contract with VZW and decided to give us an account of why he is returning it. Get off his back.
does best buy charge a restocking fee for the xoom? if they don't i may be right behind the op in the next few days.
the having to re-encode video is killing it for me. i bought this as a media consumption device, a large part of that being videos, maybe using it with my hdtv too.
if i have to spend hours converting video, thats just a waste of time, id be better served using my samsung epic phone.
thats just sad, my freaking cell phone plays video better than the xoom.
seeing hte xoom and adam comparison video was disheartening. i have read that the tegra 2 was demoed by nvidia playing h264 1080p high profile video at 10mbit and its supposed to be able to do 720p high profile at 20mbit.
both the xoom and adam seem to be incapable of this currently, that being said, it is still POSSIBLE that this can be solved with software/codecs.
the problem is when and what if? if it does happen, when will it be? but what if it doesn't happen?
as i watch the days tick away till my deadline where the xoom is no longer returnable, im getting more and more concerned because i don't want to be stuck with an $800 device that only does half of what it advertised.
/rant
sorry a bout that, just wanted to get it off my chest too. i just don't know what to do. i see the potential in the device, but i also understand the fact that the potential may never be realized.
everyone is pissed off
Yawn.
iPad and likely iPad 2 cannot even do real multitasking and these are the things we find to complain about.
It's ok to have buyers remorse for the price, but anyone in the Android world knows that the beauty of the ecosystem is something and somebody will almost certainly come along and fix whatever problem you have.
It's a simple trade off between flexibility and the Apple dictatorship, if you want to be locked into what a system can do, be sure to buy an iPad, where if you have a problem, you are almost certainly stuck with it forever.
It an easy choice for me, I do not stress out waiting for improvements, I enjoy the continuously improvements over the lifetime of the hardware. I cannot even image being locked into the Apples 'my way or the highway' environment.
And in 5 years when Android is 70% of the market and Apple is relegated to it's sub 30% share, where it is most comfortable, there is a reason.
And last but not least, no device is perfect, and to expect that invites disappointment every time.
Not that he said he was going to iPad, but others in the thread seemed to suggest that is there solution.
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Yawn.
iPad and likely iPad 2 cannot even do real multitasking and these are the things we find to complain about.
It's ok to have buyers remorse for the price, but anyone in the Android world knows that the beauty of the ecosystem is something and somebody will almost certainly come along and fix whatever problem you have.
It's a simple trade off between flexibility and the Apple dictatorship, if you want to be locked into what a system can do, be sure to buy an iPad, where if you have a problem, you are almost certainly stuck with it forever.
It an easy choice for me, I do not stress out waiting for improvements, I enjoy the continuously improvements over the lifetime of the hardware. I cannot even image being locked into the Apples 'my way or the highway' environment.
And in 5 years when Android is 70% of the market and Apple is relegated to it's sub 30% share, where it is most comfortable, there is a reason.
And last but not least, no device is perfect, and to expect that invites disappointment every time.
Not that he said he was going to iPad, but others in the thread seemed to suggest that is there solution.
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Why do you assume that everyone who returns a XOOM wil immediately run out and buy an iPad. Many may just chose to wait and see what Samsung and LG and others will produce.
I have a Galaxy Tab and I chose to wait at this point. I'm not running out and buying an Apple device. This battle isn't all Apples and Oranges - or Androids and Apples......
My Nexus 1 couldn't record 720 video and FM didn't work until enterprising hackers figured out how to enable it. If I was waiting on official channels, it still wouldn't work. Just because Moto can't figure it out doesn't mean it won't eventually be done.
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My Nexus 1 couldn't record 720 video and FM didn't work until enterprising hackers figured out how to enable it. If I was waiting on official channels, it still wouldn't work. Just because Moto can't figure it out doesn't mean it won't eventually be done.
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Agreeded. My wife and I each have a Xoom and we love it. Sure it has some short comings, but so does every device. In the end, the biggest selling point for me for the Xoom was the unlocked bootloader and the Google experience device. The software on this thing is going to be hacked and chopped up to no end. That is what most people are missing. Who cares that it wasn't 100% ready at launch...seriously. I am much happier having one to play with now rather then waiting another month or 2 or 3. Any of you saying otherwise is lying to yourself because of self inflicted buyers remorse.
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Agreeded. My wife and I each have a Xoom and we love it. Sure it has some short comings, but so does every device. In the end, the biggest selling point for me for the Xoom was the unlocked bootloader and the Google experience device. The software on this thing is going to be hacked and chopped up to no end. That is what most people are missing. Who cares that it wasn't 100% ready at launch...seriously. I am much happier having one to play with now rather then waiting another month or 2 or 3. Any of you saying otherwise is lying to yourself because of self inflicted buyers remorse.
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I agree there's nothing greater then having a device that has flaws starting out and having the oportunity to watch them get fixed and watch the device grow I can't wait to see what the xoom will soon be able to do
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I just finished arranging my Xoom in its original packaging and placed it back in its Verizon bag to go back as soon as tomorrow. Unfortunately after some heated internal debating ive decided that the Xoom is not the Tablet for me.
My first experience with Android was with my beloved EVO 4G and ive since become very fond of its in and outs. I hoped i would feel the same way with the Xoom and Android in Tablet form. Unfortunately some glaring ommisions and simply blatant misguided intentions keep me from loving what is an otherwise spectacular piece of hardware.
First off, for a device that claims to be a true Ipad competitor one of the most important areas to address is MEDIA. My mom has an Ipad 3g that i purchased and set up for her and everything runs flawlessly in its limited ecosystem. The Xoom while a much more capable piece of hardware is severely lacking in its implemented media delivery system. How a tablet could even be shipped without a dedicated video player is just beyond absurd to me(im sorry GALLERY is NOT the first place anyone would look to find movies) That wouldnt even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that getting movies on your device is simple enough but watching them is a downright chore. On the Ipad most video formats arent supported, but with one simple app i was able to load any movie i wanted and play it without the hassle of Itunes compatability. Xoom on the other hand has had me spend HOURS converting and researching Video files and codecs and converters just to get a movie to play on my Xoom without the framerate of dialup porn in the 90's. Ive made great progress with this as well, but why should i have to? If i werent me and i were just your average consumer i would be completely lost and frustrated.
So right out the gate weve got a
-4G tablet with NO 4G(pending)
-Expandable Memory(Pending)
-Flash Support(Pending)
-HD Video support(De-Pending on how computer savvy you are)
But ultimately the True Nail in the coffin for me was VERIZON. I chose to go the subsidized route due to the absence of a WiFi only option. I figured i was getting the WiFI version/price plus 3G if i wanted it. But after some hard thinking i realized.... I HATE VERIZON. We have a sordid past involving a cellphone i once had( a MOTOROLA btw, first and only ive ever owned) that wound up leaving me permanently soured on that particular carrier. So the fact that i was so anxious to get a Xoom that i actually got back in bed with these guys took a couple of days to set in. But being that im an avid early adopter i decided i could not be contractually obligated to a first Gen piece of hardware for two years.
I truly believe that the Xoom has potential up the wahzoo. But i cant allow myself to be suckered into playing the waiting game like some lonely side piece waiting for their lover to drop the axe on his marriage. I think there is a place for the Xoom in my life, but only in Wifi form and @ $600 unsubsidized. Once that becomes a reality then i will likely be back for seconds. Until then ill have to swallow my $70 restocking fee but atleast ill be $580 richer and VERIZONless. isnt thats what relly matters in the end?
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I absolutely agree with you. Which is the reason my Xoom is also heading back to Best Buy. Its just not ready for prime time. Now i consider myself an early adopter and i have no problems doing so but this device is just way, way too young. Ill wait for it to mature again and purchase it later. In the mean time ill let my $800+ dollars sit in a high interest account ;-)
No one cares that you don't like it. Good bye have fun, hope you find what you are looking for elsewhere