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I flashed this to my Eris and it seems to have faster data speeds and better reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657896
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
gohamstergo said:
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
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As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
I recommend against flashing non-Eris specific radios.
Do it at your own risk.
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This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
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It COULD brick your phone... I told myself I would never flash radio images when I gained root. I'm fine with roms and themes thank you very much.
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As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
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Yeah, that's not true dude. Flashing an incorrect radio update CAN completely brick your phone. Flashing a radio update updates your SPL. If the SPL isn't compatible with your phone/kernel, it could very well completely ruin your phone beyond recoverable.
You're lucky, but for future reference, it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio update except one that's been tested and working with your phone and kernel.
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i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio
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GrdLock said:
it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio
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so awesome
This is why I felt comfortable with flashing the radio...
The ONLY reason I flashed this radio is due to the fact that others did this with no bad side effects (so far). Also, toastcfh has tested other heroc radios on an Eris with no bad side effects (so far) as well as done some good research for us by flashing the radios and seems to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to them.
I'm not authorizing that you should go flashing "any 'ol radio" but heroc and desirec radios seem to be created with the intention of being used on Sprint and Verizon according to research by toastcfh.
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now for the question about why some radios say heroc instead of eris...
the heroc radio are just that... heroc radios from sprint. its a cdma radio so it works the same as verizon radio. dont believe me?! do a strings | grep on all the radios and u will see they are all using both sprint and verizon logins and such. also as right now im running the latest radio which is the heroc one. everything works fine and its the one ive had best results with on both my Sprint Hero and my wifes Verizon Eris. although others may find better results with other versions.
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Just make sure you know that just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean you won't find that underlying control signal some day.
sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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No, only GSM carriers use SIM cards. Sprint is CDMA.
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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I believe that was/is a bug with the nexus lock mod. I remember when lwp mod first came out I tried it and noticed the sim card message. I have not gone back to that since so I can't be 100% sure.
well whatever it was it went away after i did a restore so alls good
Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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yeah that's what doesn't make sense to me. the rooted phone says it has a better signal strength, but I'm only getting 2 3G bars (at most!).
I would like to test it but I am unable to find the original 2.32.40.11.09 radio image.
@above
metering has changed in more recent radios. aka bars vs signal strength is different.
soooo is this a yes or no go for flashing?
I tried this out, no noticeable difference in signal strength or speed where I am. Flashed it back to the newest ERIS radio...
I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.
Send me a plane ticket, come pick me up at your nearest airport, put me up and feed me for a week or two and don't forget to buy me a SIM card for your mobile service provider and I'll happily try out a few radios and tell you what I think of their battery consumption with your provider in your area...
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I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.
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If you read the threads you'll hear only go for a radio with 50 not 51, all rom makers state this.
I've been using a radio 2.12.50 for a couple of weeks and just upgraded my rom and its perfect-clarity is crystal clear and pages load very quick in comparison to original radio
IIRC, flashing the radio depends both on the device and the base rom.
Radios for stock devices
T-MO USA - .50
Other HD2 variants - .51
Again, this is not cast in concrete... I think the radios (.50 & .51) would vary even for stock devices if the base rom has been upgraded.
Bottomline, if you are sticking to a stock rom, check up on what your operator has to offer and don't cheat. That's my best advice. Lot of chaps here have turned their Leo's into bricks because of experimenting with the wrong radio. As of writing this, there is still no fix for it.
If you are switching to a custom rom, then all this becomes moot because the rom chefs always mention which radio is best for their rom.
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
using radio 2.12.50.02_2 and living in the uk also.
this is by far the most energy efficient radio i used in the uk.
i'm not a heavy user and able to use the phone for 3+ days. though it is mentioned that the battery drain is higher than with 2.10 or 2.11 radio's when calling or playing with the phone.
call quality is good and data also good. it is definitely better to upgrade the radio from the stock radio you are using.
hope this helps you.
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Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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well, if you watch Nadal when he plays at the Roland Garos, you know how it is. He wins, though.
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Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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Calm down... I may have done it with a sarcastic tone, but I was trying to make a point : only someone in your area who's using the same network as you can really tell you whcih radio would suit you best, so you've just got to try a few for yourself and make up your own mind...
Secondly, the Q&A forum is for questions, not this one...
And last but not least, go and look up slander for me and then tell me what was slanderous about my post .
What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.
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What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.
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Yup yup, I have flashed from radio to radio and only really seen little to no difference. I am on 2.11.50.20 and there is really no different to any of the other 5 or so I have tried.
Radio not working at all
On T-mobile*, radio version 2.5 1919.4027, using supplied headphones as antenna.
Thing simply doesn't work. I get the spinning colours for about ten seconds, then it closes. Am I missing something?
*EDIT: Sorry should have said T-mobile in UK.
I've been reading a bunch and I'm kinda curious about the radio (baseband) firmware on the MyTouch 4G--or on Android phones in general if they aren't device-specific. Can anyone provide some good resources on the subject? What do they do, how do they work, and so forth?
Additionally, are there other radios that work on the MyTouch 4G? If so, how do they differ and what benefits do some have over others? How does someone flash a new radio to the device?
This should be moved to Q&A if it hasn't already.
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i'm under the impression that you came from a WM phone cause i know on my TP1 and VX6800 you could interchangably use verizon and sprint and some other radio roms. though this thought has perplexed me as i havent seen any info on radios on the MT4G. i guess i'll sub this and see what happens
Radios are indeed device specific, in some cases OS specific. Attempting to flash to a random radio off another device will almost certainly net you a brick. You should only use radios made for the MT4G and the version that the rom you have chosen recommends.
I wasn't even aware there was a new radio version out for the MT4G?
A radio is flashed the same way as a rom, just boot into recovery and flash the update.zip.
I'm not sure how to fully explain what the radio firmware actually does, but I know its not something to tinker with.
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Its like every freaking time I try to use XDA search to find my own post it fails, WTF. I don't feel like retyping it at 2AM ill edit this post later on when search works again and post it.
UPDATE: For god sake its still out.
Anyways radio normally controls your wireless interface gps, voice, data, wifi, bluetooth ect. Along with power and other memory functions whichs as stated you mingle with you will certainly brick it. Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
It seems like, in case of newer HTC phones (such as G2 and MT4G), radio firmware also controls emmc read/write capablities of the chip (don't quote me on that) so most definitely NOT a good idea to tinker with it.
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Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
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Errr, has any Android developer ever modified a radio image before? As far back as G1 days I cannot remember any of them touching this. I do know some find leaked new ones or ones from different countries and posting them, but not modified.
Switching radio images is not recommended as it, along with your SPL (bootloader) are the 2 images that can brick your phone. Most people will NOT flash their radio unless its a huge improvement to your phone.
Thanks for the responses fellas. I don't plan to screw around with the radio on my phone, it just seemed like there wasn't much information available about the topic in general, and I'm genuinely interested in knowing how stuff works. Any resources or links on the subject are appreciated.
I am aware that the questions i am about to ask might have been asked 1000 times, but the search feature didnt help this time, so i am sorry if i am bugging out somebody. So here is what happened.
I got a mytouch 4g phone today, and i rooted it using gfree as it was the first sticky on the forum. i did a bit of research about bricks on mt4g (have been playing with androids since a long time) and didnt find anything about the emmc problem. then i tried gfree and it was easier than i thought. so i unlocked it (s-off), changed cid and unlocked sim (all using gfree -f). and i installed cwm and installed a rom. everything is working perfect.
but i discovered all the threads about bad emmc and bricks and stuffs like that. so i checked my emmc name and it came out to be the bad one. and i figured out that i did a big mistake. so i thought about restoring gfree backup and using the other root method (hboot s-off not radio). i was just about to restore the backup using gfree, then i noticed that my backup file (.bin file) was not present on my sd. i was shocked at first. then i found that i could s-on the phone using gfree without using backup bin file. but if i do that, will my phone not get emmc bricked like others? or do i need my backup file? can i use someone else's bin backup file? if yes, can you give me yours? any help would be really appreciated. i am worried that i might get a brick anytime. i was planning to make some tools for mytouch 4g (like i did for hd2) but i guss i will not be able to do that anymore cuz i might get a brick anytime. thanks for reading.
Edit: do all bad emmc phones using gfree get bricked? and what is the average period before it gets bricked (yea im too worried ) and is there anythign i could do now? (except for sending it for replacement since i bought it off craigslist)
This gfree and bad eMMC is just a correlation. Nothing has been proven to be a fact just yet. I've rooted my phone via gfree about 3 months ago now and I flash at least 2-3 times a week and nothing happened so far (I have the bad eMMC by the way). Everything seems fine for now.
I've also came across people that have the bad eMMC and have bee rooting and flashed hundreds of time for 6 months and going, so it's not a definite that your phone with the bad chip will die soon, so just keep that in mind.
But yes, it has happened to numerous people with the bad chip. Honestly, I would just ride it out and see what happens. If it dies just exchange it through T-Mobile.
You can't root the phone with "bad" eMMC by root.sh method, so you shouldn't even bother trying.
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You can't root the phone with "bad" eMMC by root.sh method, so you shouldn't even bother trying.
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I used this method on mine with the "bad chip" and had no problems.
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I used this method on mine with the "bad chip" and had no problems.
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You used g-free previously.. or root.sh wouldn't work on bad eMMc.
Please refer to the guides.
root.sh is guaranteed not to work on bad eMMc's unless g-free had previously been used.
Also not all "can't open /cache/recovery/log" errors in recovery are due to a dead eMMC chip. It can happen if your cache partition gets corrupted. Earlier this week, I had a bad flash--forgot to verify the md5sum before flashing, and after things started messing up, wifi not working, force-closes, etc...
So I went back to restore a nandroid backup I had made prior to the bad flash and got the dreaded "can't open /cache/recovery/log" error. I plopped the PD15IMG.zip on my sdcard and flashed it through hboot without any fail-PU errors.
So no, a M4G2DE eMMC chip doesn't always mean you'll have a brick. And cache partition errors in recovery don't always mean the eMMC chip died. What it means is that the "bad" eMMC chip has a much higher failure rate than the "good" chip. So if you have a "bad" chip, judging by the numbers, you have a much higher chance of ending up with a brick at some point.
might sound silly but where would I get the PD15IMG.zip file??
I thought PD15IMG.zip was the RADIO file.. but i think am pretty clueless...any enlightenment ?
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might sound silly but where would I get the PD15IMG.zip file??
I thought PD15IMG.zip was the RADIO file.. but i think am pretty clueless...any enlightenment ?
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Any file that has to be flashed through the bootloader (such as the stock RUU, radio files, etc) has to be named PD15IMG.zip for the bootloader to recognize it. There are two threads in the dev section that have the stock RUU you're looking for. A little searching should locate them.
Hi,
I'm a newb, and was thinking about rooting my phone and installing a different rom, but I read about this bad eMMC problem. I was wondering, if I have the bad eMMC and I don't root and install roms, will I still have the same problem that my phone might just die? Or is it only if I flash roms onto my phone?
Thanks,
Andy
Yes, if the "bad" eMMC in your phone is really bad - it'll die no matter if you flash ROMs or not. Just slower if you don't.
For what it's worth, I've had my phone with the bad emmc since December ... rooted since January & flashing roms ever since... no dead emmc. (Yet, if ever).
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So, if you do have the M4G2DE chip, is it possible that is good? Like, you have a good version of the M4G2DE chip?
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So, if you do have the M4G2DE chip, is it possible that is good? Like, you have a good version of the M4G2DE chip?
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good question. i don't have an answer to that. i've warrantied my phone, got another bad emmc around april? & have rooted & been flashing roms. phone hasn't died.
M4G2DE is just a regular chip. It's used for at least 3 other phones (G2, DHD, DS). I have one in my wife's Desire S, and it's rooted and running VU.
All the hype of the "bad" chip has gone WAY out of proportions.
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So, if you do have the M4G2DE chip, is it possible that is good? Like, you have a good version of the M4G2DE chip?
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Yes, there is a good and a bad batch like most things in the world. My mytouch had the bad emmc from march to now and it's been fine. I flash like a maniac and it's been fine.
But like someone mentioned before if you really do have the bad bad chip; eventually your phone will just crap out. There are several cases on it from people who has never rooted before.
What people usually don't talk about is that some "good" chips are also bad and will eventually go bad overtime. Someone made a poll and discovered that the bad emmc chip showed a higher susceptibility of the phone failing. But remember it is only a poll. The poll also said that blacks are more susceptible than other colors... Why? because more blacks were distributed. It is possible that more bad chips were distributed. who knows?
Hope that clears some things up for everyone.
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Yes, there is a good and a bad batch like most things in the world. My mytouch had the bad emmc from march to now and it's been fine. I flash like a maniac and it's been fine.
But like someone mentioned before if you really do have the bad bad chip; eventually your phone will just crap out. There are several cases on it from people who has never rooted before.
What people usually don't talk about is that some "good" chips are also bad and will eventually go bad overtime. Someone made a poll and discovered that the bad emmc chip showed a higher susceptibility of the phone failing. But remember it is only a poll. The poll also said that blacks are more susceptible than other colors... Why? because more blacks were distributed. It is possible that more bad chips were distributed. who knows?
Hope that clears some things up for everyone.
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Interesting info...
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HTC Mytouch 4G EMMC
I sent in my lifeless HTC Mytouch 4G to have 'Jtag Service' done to it as thats what I thought it needed, but instead they performed this 'EMMC Repairs Service' which was what they diagnosed the problem to be. An it fixed it, before sending it in, all my phone did was to charge batteries. checkout their website they even send the bad EMMC chip with the phone :good: hope I helped someone be blessed :angel: here is the URL---> mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce .com/htc-mytouch-4g-emmc-chip-repair-replacement/
Nice how much was that
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I sent in my lifeless HTC Mytouch 4G to have 'Jtag Service' done to it as thats what I thought it needed, but instead they performed this 'EMMC Repairs Service' which was what they diagnosed the problem to be. An it fixed it, before sending it in, all my phone did was to charge batteries. checkout their website they even send the bad EMMC chip with the phone :good: hope I helped someone be blessed :angel: here is the URL---> mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce .com/htc-mytouch-4g-emmc-chip-repair-replacement/
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I almost had the JTAG service done too. Before I did I did my research and come to find out that when I explained my situation to one of their techs I was emailing, he said that my situation was folly and there was nothing they could do. He stated it was the dreaded "bad eMMC chip problem" yet all i had was cache and recovery errors just like what was mentioned above. Formatted my sdcard, put the stock T-Mobile GB PD15IMG.zip on there, flashed, and booted right up. Lost root of course, but able to get it back to rooted state and been flashing custom roms ever since. Pretty sure just like what was stated above... Blown WAY out of proportion. Hope this helps some people with their anxiety about this issue.
I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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Subiegsr said:
I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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Hi... People have reported better or worse reception with different radios. Also, radio is not kernel dependent, so you can flash whatever radio You want.
You can extract the radio.img from Google factory images here:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Unzip the radio.img
Flash it with fastboot in bootloader (unlocked of course).
In case you don't know how to, check the general section there's a nice tutorial...
Subiegsr said:
I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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People on Verizon have been most likely to report that flashing a different radio improved their reception and the last two Google patches (Jan & Feb) were released in two versions, one for Verizon and one for everybody else.
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Hi... People have reported better or worse reception with different radios. Also, radio is not kernel dependent, so you can flash whatever radio You want.
You can extract the radio.img from Google factory images here:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Unzip the radio.img
Flash it with fastboot in bootloader (unlocked of course).
In case you don't know how to, check the general section there's a nice tutorial...
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I'll give it a shot, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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People on Verizon have been most likely to report that flashing a different radio improved their reception and the last two Google patches (Jan & Feb) were released in two versions, one for Verizon and one for everybody else.
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Awesome, didn't know there was two versions. I am on Verizon so hopefully this helps.
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I thought the Verizon specific version was due to missing radio bands
If you are on VZW you want 3.79 radio, 3.78 had issues with getting into your voicemail on VZW.
Even i have been facing poor reception isssues on nexus 6p here in india, checked with dozens of other phones in similar area, found there is something wrong with my phone.
Is there any india specific solution to this problem?
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If you are on VZW you want 3.79 radio, 3.78 had issues with getting into your voicemail on VZW.
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Fastbooted the 3.79 radio last night. Doesn't seem to make any difference in terms of reception at work today.
At least I know I could update the radio for future releases to see if it works. Thanks for the help anyways everyone.
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