I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.
Send me a plane ticket, come pick me up at your nearest airport, put me up and feed me for a week or two and don't forget to buy me a SIM card for your mobile service provider and I'll happily try out a few radios and tell you what I think of their battery consumption with your provider in your area...
boohoo2u said:
I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.
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If you read the threads you'll hear only go for a radio with 50 not 51, all rom makers state this.
I've been using a radio 2.12.50 for a couple of weeks and just upgraded my rom and its perfect-clarity is crystal clear and pages load very quick in comparison to original radio
IIRC, flashing the radio depends both on the device and the base rom.
Radios for stock devices
T-MO USA - .50
Other HD2 variants - .51
Again, this is not cast in concrete... I think the radios (.50 & .51) would vary even for stock devices if the base rom has been upgraded.
Bottomline, if you are sticking to a stock rom, check up on what your operator has to offer and don't cheat. That's my best advice. Lot of chaps here have turned their Leo's into bricks because of experimenting with the wrong radio. As of writing this, there is still no fix for it.
If you are switching to a custom rom, then all this becomes moot because the rom chefs always mention which radio is best for their rom.
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
using radio 2.12.50.02_2 and living in the uk also.
this is by far the most energy efficient radio i used in the uk.
i'm not a heavy user and able to use the phone for 3+ days. though it is mentioned that the battery drain is higher than with 2.10 or 2.11 radio's when calling or playing with the phone.
call quality is good and data also good. it is definitely better to upgrade the radio from the stock radio you are using.
hope this helps you.
boohoo2u said:
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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well, if you watch Nadal when he plays at the Roland Garos, you know how it is. He wins, though.
boohoo2u said:
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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Calm down... I may have done it with a sarcastic tone, but I was trying to make a point : only someone in your area who's using the same network as you can really tell you whcih radio would suit you best, so you've just got to try a few for yourself and make up your own mind...
Secondly, the Q&A forum is for questions, not this one...
And last but not least, go and look up slander for me and then tell me what was slanderous about my post .
What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.
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What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.
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Yup yup, I have flashed from radio to radio and only really seen little to no difference. I am on 2.11.50.20 and there is really no different to any of the other 5 or so I have tried.
Radio not working at all
On T-mobile*, radio version 2.5 1919.4027, using supplied headphones as antenna.
Thing simply doesn't work. I get the spinning colours for about ten seconds, then it closes. Am I missing something?
*EDIT: Sorry should have said T-mobile in UK.
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Hi all,
First, apologies for posting a thread about something that gets asked an awful lot. However, I've never seen a definitive answer.
Which is the best radio version for phone (GSM/GPRS) signal strength? I'm currently using 1.09, and a while ago tried (IIRC) 1.12 but found it gave me a worse signal. I was wondering if any of the newer radio stacks were better, and, regarding the WM6 ones, whether I would need to do a complete reflash to use them or if I could keep my WM5 rom.
If it makes any difference, I'm on Orange in the UK.
XTCrefugee said:
Hi all,
First, apologies for posting a thread about something that gets asked an awful lot. However, I've never seen a definitive answer.
Which is the best radio version for phone (GSM/GPRS) signal strength? I'm currently using 1.09, and a while ago tried (IIRC) 1.12 but found it gave me a worse signal. I was wondering if any of the newer radio stacks were better, and, regarding the WM6 ones, whether I would need to do a complete reflash to use them or if I could keep my WM5 rom.
If it makes any difference, I'm on Orange in the UK.
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Unfortunately, there is no definitive answer - hence the debates. There seems to be very great variability across locations and carriers. I won't refer you to all the threads where people have come up with different results because there are so many!
Sometimes even people on the same carrier seem to get different results (eg I am on U2 in the UK and find 1.14.1 / 1.09 the best whereas others on O2 UK found 1.13 the best). There may also be a difference between G3 and G4 handsets (although I'm not sure if anyone has looked into that in any way).
The answer is probably that you will have to try them and see what happens. IMHO there is usually a trade-off in signal strength, reliability (eg with direct push) etc - for example on 1.14.1 I get the best reception but under 2.01.08 WWE I occasionally had problems with Direct Push (which I don't use very often). I have less reception on 1.09 but more stability with DP.
Hope that helps at least a little!
I think 1.13 is the best
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I think 1.13 is the best
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Yes I agree. Just downgraded from 1.14. Results are encouraging....no hangups.
Hi, i have a HD2 unlucked using it with AT&T US. the signal is quite bad, i dont have 3g at all, ive realised the bands dont match up but is there any way to increase signal strength or something. The signal is ridiculous at times where i have no signal at all in my house.
try different radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733
Unless you bought a T9193 (look below the battery cover, is there a "Next G" or "T"?), you won't get 3G.
You might have luck playing with different radios to see if you get better coverage. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713977 for more info. If you have a TMobile HD2, then you might want to check the other HD2 forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=631
If you have any questions, read up on the Q&A forum either way.
thats why I was asking about best/latest Radio Version for AT&T. Is your Radio Version the same as mine, identified in earlier post about AT&T Radio Version?
I have at&t (but I am using a t9193), I am having good results battery & signal w/ radio 2.12.50.02_2 (link in my sig)
what exactly do i do with these radio roms?
sorry im new to this whole thing and dont know alot. thanks
Arkalos13 said:
what exactly do i do with these radio roms?
sorry im new to this whole thing and dont know alot. thanks
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HSPL from here
grab a radio file from here
follow the steps here
Non-U.S. HD2 are not compatible with TMOUS 3G regardless of the radio Rom being used. A more current ROM may provide a better basic 2G/GPRS signal.
Success! Flashed my 1st ROM and 1st Radio. I know that to the guru's here that's no big deal but it took a lot of nerve to risk my $500 investment to the mercy of my newbieness and potential to brick it.
Now I have a few more in-depth questions for the very helpful staff around here.
I flashed Radio Leo RADIO 2.07.50.27_2 on a suggestion I saw in a thread here that stated it was the best to use on AT&T in the US. I had the stock Radio at first. I am running Artemis v331_0409_WWE which seems very well behaved and has just about all I need less the typical bloatware.
My question(s)...
What is the difference in features/performance between the stock Telstra Radio, the generic OEM radio from HTC, and the radio I have flashed? Should I be seeing any sort of improvements?
I ask this because I see all the radios published for downloading but not much on specifics as to features or benefits.
I am also interested in forcing my HD2 to stay (forced) on 3G and stop dancing back and forth between 3G and EDGE. Is that possible?
I have good signals for both 3G and EDGE but sometimes the EDGE is stronger and it drops down to it and screwing up my connection speed to a crawl.
I know that in the TMO ROM on a TMO HD2 it had the ability to select the bands (at least that's what I recall). Do any of the Radio Gods around here know how to do this or any Cooks know if this is even possible?
Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Answered my own question
After some creative searching I found an answer to the "forcing 3G" question.
Why HTC buried the band settings in a phone menu beats me. But, I found the answer. I was hoping it would have been in a more logical place like wireless connections, but hey... what do I know.
I'd still appreciate some specifics on my radio questions as I'm not looking forward to flashing every conceivable radio to see which one works if I can at least narrow it down by getting some recommendations for the best one to use on AT&T.
there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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I did not say anything about 3G on TMO, the thread is regarding the T9193 (Telstra), not TMO branded.
Yes, I am getting 3G on AT&T, but its with a T9193. TMO's version has different hardware with a different Radio Chip frequency. Flashing does not change that since it is hard coded in the Radio chip.
Sorry.
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there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
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If there are no differences then why are there different versions? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing your point but I am curious as to why a new version Radio is released if there are no differences. That would be like Microsoft releasing Windows 7 version xxxx12345.0 and then releasing version xxxx12345.678.1 and doing so for no apparent reason.
From what I've read, there must be a difference if the performance is different so it would indicate to me that there must be some tweaks on some parameters. I'm trying to find out what those parameters are and what they affect.
Oh well! That'll teach me to read more closely!
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I've been reading a bunch and I'm kinda curious about the radio (baseband) firmware on the MyTouch 4G--or on Android phones in general if they aren't device-specific. Can anyone provide some good resources on the subject? What do they do, how do they work, and so forth?
Additionally, are there other radios that work on the MyTouch 4G? If so, how do they differ and what benefits do some have over others? How does someone flash a new radio to the device?
This should be moved to Q&A if it hasn't already.
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i'm under the impression that you came from a WM phone cause i know on my TP1 and VX6800 you could interchangably use verizon and sprint and some other radio roms. though this thought has perplexed me as i havent seen any info on radios on the MT4G. i guess i'll sub this and see what happens
Radios are indeed device specific, in some cases OS specific. Attempting to flash to a random radio off another device will almost certainly net you a brick. You should only use radios made for the MT4G and the version that the rom you have chosen recommends.
I wasn't even aware there was a new radio version out for the MT4G?
A radio is flashed the same way as a rom, just boot into recovery and flash the update.zip.
I'm not sure how to fully explain what the radio firmware actually does, but I know its not something to tinker with.
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Its like every freaking time I try to use XDA search to find my own post it fails, WTF. I don't feel like retyping it at 2AM ill edit this post later on when search works again and post it.
UPDATE: For god sake its still out.
Anyways radio normally controls your wireless interface gps, voice, data, wifi, bluetooth ect. Along with power and other memory functions whichs as stated you mingle with you will certainly brick it. Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
It seems like, in case of newer HTC phones (such as G2 and MT4G), radio firmware also controls emmc read/write capablities of the chip (don't quote me on that) so most definitely NOT a good idea to tinker with it.
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Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
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Errr, has any Android developer ever modified a radio image before? As far back as G1 days I cannot remember any of them touching this. I do know some find leaked new ones or ones from different countries and posting them, but not modified.
Switching radio images is not recommended as it, along with your SPL (bootloader) are the 2 images that can brick your phone. Most people will NOT flash their radio unless its a huge improvement to your phone.
Thanks for the responses fellas. I don't plan to screw around with the radio on my phone, it just seemed like there wasn't much information available about the topic in general, and I'm genuinely interested in knowing how stuff works. Any resources or links on the subject are appreciated.
Hello everyone, first post here on XDA! About time... that damn search button answered all my questions over the past few months. I've done just about everything you can to this wonderful device, aside from developing. I've been trying to get into developing for android by self-teaching java via books. Sadly, it seems there is a long way to go...
Anyway, I recently moved to an area where reception outside my house is decent but once inside it's toast. For whatever reason I never tried an older radio. My thought was that the newest (2.15.50.14) would be the best (even though i read over and over to try them all!) and many devs recommended it for their rom. So I've come to terms with the fact that I LOVE coredroid v1.7 froyo and I will not have wifi calling on my device. I was bored and figured it was worth a shot to test out some radios. I went through all of the TMOUS radios found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787. Every radio I tested was the same if not worse... EXCEPT 2.14.50.02! The difference isn't dramatic but I'm now able to get one "bar" while downstairs in a split level house which wasn't possible before.
Sooo I remember searching and searching for someone who may have posted their location and which radio worked best for them in that location, hoping it would be near me. Then I started skimming threads just looking for american flags and hoping they had a state and radio listed. Maybe we can get a thread started where everyone can post their specific location and the best working radio for them in that location? Hopefully turning up more search results for someone looking for the radio they may have the best luck with. If not, that's cool... I tried! Thanks all.
Myself:
TMOUS
USA
MASSACHUSETTS
WALTHAM
BEST: 2.14.50.02
RUNNER UP: 2.15.50.14
That was a good idea, too bad it didn't generate more interest.
I'm not sure the location really matters though, the best radio should be the best everywhere?
Currently in Europe and was finding 2.15.50.14 weak (jo signal, dropped signal) so I switched to 2.12.50.02_2 on someone's suggestion, but it's not really better and I sometimes get hard freezes when it reconnects to the network...will try the 2.14.50.02 that seems to work well for you.