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Best Radio?

Hey guys, like all you other fellow wizard users im always craving better reception and call quality. Now i have seen the mod that you can do with the silver foil to get better reception but its a little to blue peter for me just yet lol. I was wondering does anyone have any particualr rom that gives better reception or call quality. I'm currently using molski's ROM which is excellent and uses the 2.25.11 radio version. I have heard that the US t-mobile version is supposed to be great at improving both these areas is this true? has anyone maybe cooked up a ROM based on some of the parts of it? For the answer to these questions and more tune into to the next post
Cheers

radio Cingular 2.25 is the best!

bachikho said:
radio Cingular 2.25 is the best!
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I switched from the Tmob 2.25.11 to the Cingular 2.25.11 and improved reception between 1/4th - 1/3rd, and greatly improved reception indoors & big buildings and such.
they are supposed to be the same radio rom, but I read a post by a cat who claims that they are not digitally identical, what exactly that proves im not sure but I saw a difference, and there are many posts from others who report the same...
bhang

ah right you see this would be great! Did you swap by flashing the whole ROM or did you just flash the radio ROM (if thats even possible). I would also be interested to hear from anyone in the UK who is using the cingular ROM as much like everyone else I want better reception lol!

HELP! Question on 8525 reception.

Hello all, this is my 1st post on these forums. They are great BTW. Anyway I have a question about radio roms. I've read through the wiki and I've read various posts in here about Radio version: 1.40.30.00, so far from what I've seen a lot of people like and recommend this version. So I successfully flashed to the newest retail firmware from AT&T the 04/09/07 release. I love the PDA features of the phone, but voice call/SMS connectivity is craptacular at best.
I recently upgraded from the 8125 and I never had any problems at all with voice call or SMS connectivity on my old phone. Performance wise it feels like the 8525 is a downgrade. I can hardly receive phone calls/texts from my house, and I can't make calls/texts at all. In fact I have to go get on the highway to get any kind of signal. That was never the case in this area before.
Here's my question. Is there perhaps a Radio Rom fix that I have missed, or do you think that I should swap the phone out (I have 15 days left) at the store? I was considering downgrading to a previous firmware version so I could get an earlier Radio Rom, but I don't know if that is a proper solution, or if I can do so without bricking my phone.

Welcome to XDA.
OK, so if I read what you're saying correctly, the original ROM/radio worked fine? I'm guessing the radio version was 1.16.00.00, which you can technically flash independently. There are also several radio versions in between, all of which can be found here.
That said, bear in mind that monkeying with the radio is the riskiest thing you can do in terms of bricking your device (because the CID "lives" there and if it becomes corrupt, you're "bricked"). Normally the advisable thing to do would be to install Hard-SPL to guard against this, but if you think you may have to cash in on your warranty the safest thing to do might be to downgrade the entire ROM to the original as installing anything "non-factory" will void your warranty. Or, since you've done nothing to void your warranty thus far, you could leave it as is, it in to Cingular and complain.
The current factory ROMs can be found here. My guess would be that yours shipped with 1.34.502.1.
Good luck!

Thx for the advice, I just installed Hard SPL and Flashed Radio:1.41.00.10 and the reception seemed a little bit better, but I still have to go out to the highway to do anything. I think I'm going to put one of the old retail roms back on and loose the Hermes. I may get a Cheetah instead, my wife has one of those and her call reception is great. Plus the threaded SMS is a selling point.

Trypticon said:
Thx for the advice, I just installed Hard SPL and Flashed Radio:1.41.00.10 and the reception seemed a little bit better, but I still have to go out to the highway to do anything. I think I'm going to put one of the old retail roms back on and loose the Hermes. I may get a Cheetah instead, my wife has one of those and her call reception is great. Plus the threaded SMS is a selling point.
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If you want to give it a go, I had better luck with 1.40 than with 1.41 for Cingular. The 1.40 radio is specifically a Cingular release. You may want to try that one before abandoning the device, although I am not sure any radio will make a monumental difference. Surprising that the difference between the 8125 and 8525 would be that big.

The 1.40 was the one that I had initially. On HTC's site the 4/09/07 firmware shipped with 1.40, and it's the one that I've been using since I got the phone. I don't think that it's the Radio ROM anymore, I think that it's the device in this area. I just don't want to swap it out for a new one and confirm that it is the device in this area. Then I'll be stuck with a $500.00 PDA with no usable phone.
Lol I was shocked 'bout that too... the 8125 was incredible compared to the 8525 reception wise.

Radio worth upgrading

I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.

Send me a plane ticket, come pick me up at your nearest airport, put me up and feed me for a week or two and don't forget to buy me a SIM card for your mobile service provider and I'll happily try out a few radios and tell you what I think of their battery consumption with your provider in your area...

boohoo2u said:
I've been reading about upgrading my radio version (currently 2.06.51.07), does it really make that much of a difference?
I live in the UK, can anyone recommend a version?
Do I have to use a .51 version? what are the differences if I use a .50?
Thanks.
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If you read the threads you'll hear only go for a radio with 50 not 51, all rom makers state this.
I've been using a radio 2.12.50 for a couple of weeks and just upgraded my rom and its perfect-clarity is crystal clear and pages load very quick in comparison to original radio

IIRC, flashing the radio depends both on the device and the base rom.
Radios for stock devices
T-MO USA - .50
Other HD2 variants - .51
Again, this is not cast in concrete... I think the radios (.50 & .51) would vary even for stock devices if the base rom has been upgraded.
Bottomline, if you are sticking to a stock rom, check up on what your operator has to offer and don't cheat. That's my best advice. Lot of chaps here have turned their Leo's into bricks because of experimenting with the wrong radio. As of writing this, there is still no fix for it.
If you are switching to a custom rom, then all this becomes moot because the rom chefs always mention which radio is best for their rom.

Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.

using radio 2.12.50.02_2 and living in the uk also.
this is by far the most energy efficient radio i used in the uk.
i'm not a heavy user and able to use the phone for 3+ days. though it is mentioned that the battery drain is higher than with 2.10 or 2.11 radio's when calling or playing with the phone.
call quality is good and data also good. it is definitely better to upgrade the radio from the stock radio you are using.
hope this helps you.

boohoo2u said:
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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well, if you watch Nadal when he plays at the Roland Garos, you know how it is. He wins, though.

boohoo2u said:
Thank you "11calcal" and "leepriestenator" for your responses.
"NeoGreendawg" some of us are new to this and I feel your response is not very helpful. Yes I use the search button, yes I read hundreds and hundreds of threads but sometimes you cannot see the wood for the trees, so asking a question is what I thought these forums are for, to help not to slander.
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Calm down... I may have done it with a sarcastic tone, but I was trying to make a point : only someone in your area who's using the same network as you can really tell you whcih radio would suit you best, so you've just got to try a few for yourself and make up your own mind...
Secondly, the Q&A forum is for questions, not this one...
And last but not least, go and look up slander for me and then tell me what was slanderous about my post .

What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.

Demon_man said:
What NeoGreendawg has just said is exactly true, the Radio is personal preference and depends where you live, no advice can be given on which Radio to use, which it does state on the Radio thread, If you not experiencing any trouble there is no need to change.
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Yup yup, I have flashed from radio to radio and only really seen little to no difference. I am on 2.11.50.20 and there is really no different to any of the other 5 or so I have tried.

Radio not working at all
On T-mobile*, radio version 2.5 1919.4027, using supplied headphones as antenna.
Thing simply doesn't work. I get the spinning colours for about ten seconds, then it closes. Am I missing something?
*EDIT: Sorry should have said T-mobile in UK.

[Q] Forcing 3G on T9193 HD2

Success! Flashed my 1st ROM and 1st Radio. I know that to the guru's here that's no big deal but it took a lot of nerve to risk my $500 investment to the mercy of my newbieness and potential to brick it.
Now I have a few more in-depth questions for the very helpful staff around here.
I flashed Radio Leo RADIO 2.07.50.27_2 on a suggestion I saw in a thread here that stated it was the best to use on AT&T in the US. I had the stock Radio at first. I am running Artemis v331_0409_WWE which seems very well behaved and has just about all I need less the typical bloatware.
My question(s)...
What is the difference in features/performance between the stock Telstra Radio, the generic OEM radio from HTC, and the radio I have flashed? Should I be seeing any sort of improvements?
I ask this because I see all the radios published for downloading but not much on specifics as to features or benefits.
I am also interested in forcing my HD2 to stay (forced) on 3G and stop dancing back and forth between 3G and EDGE. Is that possible?
I have good signals for both 3G and EDGE but sometimes the EDGE is stronger and it drops down to it and screwing up my connection speed to a crawl.
I know that in the TMO ROM on a TMO HD2 it had the ability to select the bands (at least that's what I recall). Do any of the Radio Gods around here know how to do this or any Cooks know if this is even possible?
Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Answered my own question
After some creative searching I found an answer to the "forcing 3G" question.
Why HTC buried the band settings in a phone menu beats me. But, I found the answer. I was hoping it would have been in a more logical place like wireless connections, but hey... what do I know.
I'd still appreciate some specifics on my radio questions as I'm not looking forward to flashing every conceivable radio to see which one works if I can at least narrow it down by getting some recommendations for the best one to use on AT&T.

there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.

Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!

apallohadas said:
Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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I did not say anything about 3G on TMO, the thread is regarding the T9193 (Telstra), not TMO branded.
Yes, I am getting 3G on AT&T, but its with a T9193. TMO's version has different hardware with a different Radio Chip frequency. Flashing does not change that since it is hard coded in the Radio chip.
Sorry.

samsamuel said:
there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
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If there are no differences then why are there different versions? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing your point but I am curious as to why a new version Radio is released if there are no differences. That would be like Microsoft releasing Windows 7 version xxxx12345.0 and then releasing version xxxx12345.678.1 and doing so for no apparent reason.
From what I've read, there must be a difference if the performance is different so it would indicate to me that there must be some tweaks on some parameters. I'm trying to find out what those parameters are and what they affect.

Oh well! That'll teach me to read more closely!
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Everyone please, best working radio in your specific location!

Hello everyone, first post here on XDA! About time... that damn search button answered all my questions over the past few months. I've done just about everything you can to this wonderful device, aside from developing. I've been trying to get into developing for android by self-teaching java via books. Sadly, it seems there is a long way to go...
Anyway, I recently moved to an area where reception outside my house is decent but once inside it's toast. For whatever reason I never tried an older radio. My thought was that the newest (2.15.50.14) would be the best (even though i read over and over to try them all!) and many devs recommended it for their rom. So I've come to terms with the fact that I LOVE coredroid v1.7 froyo and I will not have wifi calling on my device. I was bored and figured it was worth a shot to test out some radios. I went through all of the TMOUS radios found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787. Every radio I tested was the same if not worse... EXCEPT 2.14.50.02! The difference isn't dramatic but I'm now able to get one "bar" while downstairs in a split level house which wasn't possible before.
Sooo I remember searching and searching for someone who may have posted their location and which radio worked best for them in that location, hoping it would be near me. Then I started skimming threads just looking for american flags and hoping they had a state and radio listed. Maybe we can get a thread started where everyone can post their specific location and the best working radio for them in that location? Hopefully turning up more search results for someone looking for the radio they may have the best luck with. If not, that's cool... I tried! Thanks all.
Myself:
TMOUS
USA
MASSACHUSETTS
WALTHAM
BEST: 2.14.50.02
RUNNER UP: 2.15.50.14

That was a good idea, too bad it didn't generate more interest.
I'm not sure the location really matters though, the best radio should be the best everywhere?
Currently in Europe and was finding 2.15.50.14 weak (jo signal, dropped signal) so I switched to 2.12.50.02_2 on someone's suggestion, but it's not really better and I sometimes get hard freezes when it reconnects to the network...will try the 2.14.50.02 that seems to work well for you.