Will flashing a different radio improve reception? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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Subiegsr said:
I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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Hi... People have reported better or worse reception with different radios. Also, radio is not kernel dependent, so you can flash whatever radio You want.
You can extract the radio.img from Google factory images here:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Unzip the radio.img
Flash it with fastboot in bootloader (unlocked of course).
In case you don't know how to, check the general section there's a nice tutorial...

Subiegsr said:
I have horrible reception at work, I bounce between no reception to 1 bar of 3g/1x throughout the day. This is probably a dumb question.. Not sure if it's possible, but if you flash a different radio would it improve my reception at work?
If so, where can you download a radio to use with a custom kernel?
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People on Verizon have been most likely to report that flashing a different radio improved their reception and the last two Google patches (Jan & Feb) were released in two versions, one for Verizon and one for everybody else.

5.1 said:
Hi... People have reported better or worse reception with different radios. Also, radio is not kernel dependent, so you can flash whatever radio You want.
You can extract the radio.img from Google factory images here:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
Unzip the radio.img
Flash it with fastboot in bootloader (unlocked of course).
In case you don't know how to, check the general section there's a nice tutorial...
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I'll give it a shot, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
jhs39 said:
People on Verizon have been most likely to report that flashing a different radio improved their reception and the last two Google patches (Jan & Feb) were released in two versions, one for Verizon and one for everybody else.
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Awesome, didn't know there was two versions. I am on Verizon so hopefully this helps.
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I thought the Verizon specific version was due to missing radio bands

If you are on VZW you want 3.79 radio, 3.78 had issues with getting into your voicemail on VZW.

Even i have been facing poor reception isssues on nexus 6p here in india, checked with dozens of other phones in similar area, found there is something wrong with my phone.
Is there any india specific solution to this problem?

sting5566 said:
If you are on VZW you want 3.79 radio, 3.78 had issues with getting into your voicemail on VZW.
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Fastbooted the 3.79 radio last night. Doesn't seem to make any difference in terms of reception at work today.
At least I know I could update the radio for future releases to see if it works. Thanks for the help anyways everyone.
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Related

New Sprint Radio 2.42.00.03.10

I flashed this to my Eris and it seems to have faster data speeds and better reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657896
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
gohamstergo said:
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
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As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
I recommend against flashing non-Eris specific radios.
Do it at your own risk.
sickbox said:
This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
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It COULD brick your phone... I told myself I would never flash radio images when I gained root. I'm fine with roms and themes thank you very much.
kyrumo71 said:
As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
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Yeah, that's not true dude. Flashing an incorrect radio update CAN completely brick your phone. Flashing a radio update updates your SPL. If the SPL isn't compatible with your phone/kernel, it could very well completely ruin your phone beyond recoverable.
You're lucky, but for future reference, it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio update except one that's been tested and working with your phone and kernel.
gohamstergo said:
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio
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GrdLock said:
it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio
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so awesome
This is why I felt comfortable with flashing the radio...
The ONLY reason I flashed this radio is due to the fact that others did this with no bad side effects (so far). Also, toastcfh has tested other heroc radios on an Eris with no bad side effects (so far) as well as done some good research for us by flashing the radios and seems to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to them.
I'm not authorizing that you should go flashing "any 'ol radio" but heroc and desirec radios seem to be created with the intention of being used on Sprint and Verizon according to research by toastcfh.
toastcfh said:
now for the question about why some radios say heroc instead of eris...
the heroc radio are just that... heroc radios from sprint. its a cdma radio so it works the same as verizon radio. dont believe me?! do a strings | grep on all the radios and u will see they are all using both sprint and verizon logins and such. also as right now im running the latest radio which is the heroc one. everything works fine and its the one ive had best results with on both my Sprint Hero and my wifes Verizon Eris. although others may find better results with other versions.
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Just make sure you know that just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean you won't find that underlying control signal some day.
sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
tazzpatriot said:
sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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No, only GSM carriers use SIM cards. Sprint is CDMA.
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
tazzpatriot said:
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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I believe that was/is a bug with the nexus lock mod. I remember when lwp mod first came out I tried it and noticed the sim card message. I have not gone back to that since so I can't be 100% sure.
well whatever it was it went away after i did a restore so alls good
Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
t41n7ed said:
Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
cryppie said:
FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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yeah that's what doesn't make sense to me. the rooted phone says it has a better signal strength, but I'm only getting 2 3G bars (at most!).
I would like to test it but I am unable to find the original 2.32.40.11.09 radio image.
@above
metering has changed in more recent radios. aka bars vs signal strength is different.
soooo is this a yes or no go for flashing?
I tried this out, no noticeable difference in signal strength or speed where I am. Flashed it back to the newest ERIS radio...

What is the radio in the sprint ruu leak?

i was wondering what is the radio in the sprint in the ruu???
i want to try it out since it was released by sprint. i find the others have a big battery drain compared to the stock rom...
i don't want to ruu my phone so i was wondering if someone has the zip file for it????
i'm in a area where i get service no where so thats where my battery life goes to most of the time.
http://geekfor.me/category/radio/
Each radio works differently in different areas. The newest one seems to be the best (that's the one that I'm using). You just have to try them and find which works best for you.
Not sure of the latest...buy fyi, all radios that have been posted (except one from the Desire) came from Sprint. Best to try each one till you get the bast signal.
apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
dondadah88 said:
apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
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Huh... after checking my baseband, I guess I'm using the April 4th 2.42.00.03.10 version. I'm not sure which one is the one that Flipz claims is better than the others, but 2.42.00.03.10 is working great for me. I noticed a massive battery length increase after installing.
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
dondadah88 said:
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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Just decide for yourself what kind of experience you are expecting and let the placebo effect take care of the rest.
dondadah88 said:
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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I live about a block from a Sprint tower... So, don't take my word for it. I get full bars everywhere I go, except in my basement - and even then, I get pretty good service. I haven't tested many other places.
But, as Sawawa said, you just have to test it yourself. This radio was my third before I decided I liked what I had.
DevinXtreme said:
I live about a block from a Sprint tower...
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well im jealous.
one other thing, why not just say where you are and see if anybody lives in the same general area? might get lucky and narrow it down as to what radio to use.
i am as well. lol.
i flashed to this radio and the signal is better. i'm using right now a rom that has 4 bars(ice) and i don't have any bars. but with this a bar and sometimes 2 pops up.
i have to check the battery life in the morning to see whats up. that's usually the problem with the new radio compared to the rest. the battery life is bad compared to the stock...

Latest radio? 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08

From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
JHaste said:
prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
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All nexus ones use the same radios
na there was a thread or article i remember reading about some vulnerability fixes for asian n1's via driver updates... brb looking for it lol
(inserts foot in mouth)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815711
that was the thread i was thinking of but thats for the cpu not the radio... now i am befuddled about this new radio... i want it!
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Passion%20(Nexus%20One)/OTA_Passion_KT_KR_2.18.1010.4_FRG83-2.15.1010.2_FRF91_release_signed.zip
new radio is inside this patch -> radio.img
Extract the file and connect nexus in fastboot mode
fastboot devices
fastboot flash radio radio.img
wdfowty said:
All nexus ones use the same radios
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No.
No they do not.
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
Rusty! said:
No.
No they do not.
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I'll second that!
No. No they do not!
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so any differences noticed?
I saw a slight speed increase on Wifi and Edge.
Read the details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8788247&postcount=76
Flashed it and it seems the Wifi and HSDPA are snappier! Much better than the 4.x
Using slcd N1 bought from local carrier
houzuoguo said:
From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
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Apparently the newest one (5.12) isn't so great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828185
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
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danger-rat said:
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
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Agreed, more people should do the test and THEN only could we do an average and compare the results...
My phone came with 5.08 on stock, then I went to 4.06 by mistake and it was pretty awful...In the end, I decided to try 5.12 and, as I said, it feels a lot snappier than the 4.06 and maybe even than the 5.08...I also think that the technology used could have something to do (frequencies of your network and such)
It's always hard to compare wireless speeds because there is nothing constant and physically exactly repeatable...still good job on the comparison though...we all know that any of the 5.x are better than 4.x anyways
Agreed!
Since switching to 5.12 I don't think I've ever dropped below 3G for any significant period. I don't know if my speeds are any faster, but its certainly more reliable... (5.08 seemed faster, but would frequemtly drop down to E/G, and occasionally loose signal).
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Rusty! said:
No.
No they do not.
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...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
musashiken said:
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
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No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
wdfowty said:
...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
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/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
JHaste said:
/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
JHaste said:
/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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Lol, hold off on those facepalms
RogerPodacter said:
i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for setting me straight

Radio/Wireless Signal

I recently updated to Royalginger 3.0 and it seems like to me that I'm experiencing less signal on my wifi connection sitting at my desk downstairs than I was before, on the stock rom. Also my cell bars are dramatically lower. Is there anything that can be recommended? I'm kind of hesitant to change radios after reading about the eMMC chip problem (i've got the bad one).. Any info would be appreciated by the vet's of these forums..
Thanks
Changing the radio is not as big of as ordeal as you would think. Just follow the directions on the radio thread and verify your md5sum before flashing. It really is easier than flashing a rom.
eqjunkie829 said:
Changing the radio is not as big of as ordeal as you would think. Just follow the directions on the radio thread and verify your md5sum before flashing. It really is easier than flashing a rom.
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What I was concerned about is the eMMC chip (the bad one) and flashing radio, any idea if one can break the other?
cballard37 said:
What I was concerned about is the eMMC chip (the bad one) and flashing radio, any idea if one can break the other?
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It can but just cause you have a bad chip doesn't necessarily mean it will go bad. Then again you never know. Its kind of like playing Russian roulette
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MHC19I radio T-Mobile

Anyone seeing worst reception with T-Mobile on the newest radio for MHC19I? Im wondering if it's just me or if it's hanging out the last tower I was near for too long before switching to the next tower? This is what I'm seeing myself. And what radio for T-Mobile works best for some of you if you've tried a few out? Thanks to those who may reply.
Not t-mobile but for me reception with Verizon seems worse with MHC19I's radio
RemnantKing2 said:
Not t-mobile but for me reception with Verizon seems worse with MHC19I's radio
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So which radio are you using?
I'm on T-Mobile running the latest build. No issues to report here.
on tmobile with the latest update, no issues here.
T-Mobile also no issues and LTE works better with latest radio.... I'm on a custom aosp ROM.
galaxys said:
T-Mobile also no issues and LTE works better with latest radio....
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Same here. Best experience yet with newest radio. LTE bug is also squashed with latest radio.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I'm on T-Mobile running the latest build. No issues to report here.
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on tmobile with the latest update, no issues here.
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galaxys said:
T-Mobile also no issues and LTE works better with latest radio....
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giant22000 said:
Same here. Best experience yet with newest radio. LTE bug is also squashed with latest radio.
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Are you guys all running stock rom? I have LTE connectivity issues but installed a custom rom within hours of getting my 6p and am curious if I just need to go back to stock. I'll probably try going back to stock anyway... it's so frustrating having to keep the phone on 3g to maintain data.
brewkelyn said:
Are you guys all running stock rom? I have LTE connectivity issues but installed a custom rom within hours of getting my 6p and am curious if I just need to go back to stock. I'll probably try going back to stock anyway... it's so frustrating having to keep the phone on 3g to maintain data.
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No I'm not the stock ROM. I'm using uberstock which is for the most part plain aosp.
giant22000 said:
No I'm not the stock ROM. I'm using uberstock which is for the most part plain aosp.
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OK, well I just flashed back to latest stock & unroot with no improvement. Signal still drops, returns, drops. [emoji20]
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Just move my N6P from Sprint to TMobile and im seeing an improvement on my signal even getting better battery life which could be related to the signal.
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I'm on Fi but T-Mobile is the stronger signal at my house. After March update I am still at around -95 dbm. So no change in signal. However my battery use from cell standby has dropped and I get better battery life.
Agree with you, data not good here in Cali after the MHC update, i might go back to the build before this
brewkelyn said:
OK, well I just flashed back to latest stock & unroot with no improvement. Signal still drops, returns, drops. [emoji20]
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jay661972 said:
Agree with you, data not good here in Cali after the MHC update, i might go back to the build before this
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You could just change your radio
I'm having the same issue on T-Mobile with the newest radio. Reflashed 2.50 and back in business.

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