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After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
paid full price for a dx??
Okay?
It'll probably be out soon you know.. lots of Galaxy S phones are getting one way or another now. Were bound to get an official release soon. Good luck with the DX.
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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Hate to see you go. But thanks for the good wishes.
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I did the same. Running gingerbread now. And to the op- how does a locked bootloader= support from motorola?
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bomber889 said:
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I played with both the Fascinate and the Incredible while at best buy. The Fascinate just felt like a better phone to me when using both. I'm happy with my purchase. The Incredible is a great phone though, great dev community. Enjoy your phone!
The Incredible is a fantastic phone, with one fatal flaw: its absolutely terrible GPU. I had one after owning the Droid 1, right before the Fascinate came out, and while it was tempting to switch to the Fascinate in general once they announced its release date was inside my 30-day return period (better hardware specs all-around), the graphics performance was what absolutely cinched it.
I remember trying to run on the Incredible... I think it was Asphalt 5 (though this goes for plenty of other 3D-intensive games I can't specifically remember) and it was like playing a slideshow most of the time.
Meanwhile, the Droid 1, despite its almost half-speed CPU compared to the Incredible, was able to smoothly run any game I threw at it.
not me.
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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Same here, the incredible was an option, but it is basically a redone droid eris. While decently powerful the fascinate was the better choice, even with 2.1.
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After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
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I totally respect your decision, but I imagine it will be one you regret. I think people forget that we have only been waiting for Froyo a little more than three months. The droid x waited this long also. Other phones have waited much longer for promised updates.
Btw: As someone already pointed out, you call a locked bootloader better support?
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Lol you impatient people.... i had froyo on my d1 as soon as it was ported. It wasn't that amazing. Good luck to you all
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Okay?
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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I second this. I got my Fascinate from Craigslist and will never again buy a phone on contract.
As far as Froyo, if the update is half-assed (Droid Eris style), I'll be installing a nice clean Froyo rom the friendly neighborhood developers again.
The Froyo upgrade for the Droid 1 was actually pretty amazing performance-wise, but that's neither here nor there.
And the Droid X took a bit over two months to get Froyo. We've already been waiting three and a half months.
So while the Fascinate is a great phone as-is, from an objective point of view, the upgrade wait is unjustified and I feel buyers have every right to be disappointed -- especially when the manufacturer just launched a phone running 2.3.
I think the incredible is just a tad more than a re done fascinate. That's a little bit of a understatement. The dev community is flying on that phone.
Edit: flacyn. You are exactly right. I will agree locked bootloader doesn't mean no support. Just no support from modders. And launching a gingerbread phone while your flagship line sits on eclair is dissapointing.
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Ill give u $50 4 ur fascinate since u dont want it.
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I'll go as high as $51 because it doesn't have froyo.
good day.
me personally i dont plan on playing many games on this things other than like angry birds.. so the only hardware thats appealing is the screen...
I meant to say the incredible is a tad bit more than a re done Eris. Lol my bad.
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MT4G is on its way, but I'm still hanging on to N1 - great phone with huge development support.
Hardware-wise MT4G is a superior phone to N1, but apart from that I'll be missing a lot from the development community. When will we see gingerbread, or soon to be unveiled honeycomb (Mar 2011?)... There is just so little going on with MT4G on the development side, I wonder why...
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MT4G is on its way, but I'm still hanging on to N1 - great phone with huge development support.
Hardware-wise MT4G is a superior phone to N1, but apart from that I'll be missing a lot from the development community. When will we see gingerbread, or soon to be unveiled honeycomb (Mar 2011?)... There is just so little going on with MT4G on the development side, I wonder why...
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The development has just picked up a lot we were waiting on a video/camera bug to be fixed with all roms now that its fixed we have seen a huge jump in development. The N1 was slow at first as well time will heal it all
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The development has just picked up a lot we were waiting on a video/camera bug to be fixed with all roms now that its fixed we have seen a huge jump in development. The N1 was slow at first as well time will heal it all
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I'm new to MT4G; what is the camera/video bug?
This thread belongs in the general section.
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I can't wait for some love like the n1. I miss mine solely for the multiple choices of roms. Can't wait for something running 2.3 and putting the mt4g at its full potential. I'll be so happy.
we have 4 different roms (counting both DHD roms as 1) MIUI, CM, Iced, DHD and the phone hasn't been out that long, I think we are fine development wise. At least for now
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MT4G is on its way, but I'm still hanging on to N1 - great phone with huge development support.
Hardware-wise MT4G is a superior phone to N1, but apart from that I'll be missing a lot from the development community. When will we see gingerbread, or soon to be unveiled honeycomb (Mar 2011?)... There is just so little going on with MT4G on the development side, I wonder why...
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I think I may actually take it easy on you so listen up. The phone has been out for what, maybe a month? The N1, well, Feb-Dec means 11 months. Yes, the N1 has a TON of development but it did not when it first dropped (I ordered one on release day). The N1 actually took a couple of months for true development. Hell, it was at least 4 months before we could even wake the stupid thing with the trackball. Anyways, just letting you know, development takes time. It's not like the developers have tons of money to waste on EVERY phone that comes out and tons of time to develop for them.
P.S. I still have my N1 that I mess with every day!
You're crazy if you think that development for this phone is "slow". It's been out less than 60 days and already has several viable roms. Honestly, take a chill pill and have some patience.
On the other hand, I know what it's like to be impatient I've been checking the forums compulsively to look for signs of gingerbread roms on the horizon. CM7 is shaping up quite nicely. They have everything worked out except that when you're recording a video it chops off the last few seconds. CANNOT WAIT!!!
In conclusion, Merry Christmas, and stick around the MT4G is a fantastic phone and has some super devs behind it.
I see no sense in these threads.
With eViL, Zink , grankin01, Gr8gorilla, teamsilence...think thats most of them, for the MT4G to be where its at in such a short time I say hats off to em.
Lets be like some of the other forums on XDA where they turn into demanding little pricks that act utterly ungrateful...or be thankful for what we get and shut it..
I think the development is moving at an awesome pace and will only get better over time. Hopefully some Devs got a MT4G today
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You can always compile a rom your self just know what you are doing. If you want gingerbread then compile a rom based on cm 7 but be warned things wont work.
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And we all can add enomther on the list very soon... rest assured you'll have your ROM flashing addiction fix in no time
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And we all can add enomther on the list very soon... rest assured you'll have your ROM flashing addiction fix in no time
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Can't wait for enom.
I'm waiting for Enom as well. I typically donate to him, so I'm leaving my phone stock until he's ready with a stable Gingerbread ROM.
.... It takes developers haveing a phone to be able to work on roms.... They cant just POOF, heres your rom.
And since the devs just got these phones in the last 2 weeks, and we already have 4 fully functioning roms.... Id say have some damn patience.
Agreed, we have seen a lot of progress given the short time the phones been out. But I don't think there needs to be repeated posts saying "have some damn patience." OP probably got the message the first time. If you're not adding to the conversation its probably better to give your typing fingers a rest. Otherwise you're just contributing to the cancerous ignorance that turns us against each other.
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I think progress has been great considering the phones only been out a couple weeks! N1 took several months. I say hats off to the devs their work is great.
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Agreed, we have seen a lot of progress given the short time the phones been out. But I don't think there needs to be repeated posts saying "have some damn patience." OP probably got the message the first time. If you're not adding to the conversation its probably better to give your typing fingers a rest. Otherwise you're just contributing to the cancerous ignorance that turns us against each other.
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fully working rom ..is that with the camera fix ?
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fully working rom ..is that with the camera fix ?
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What camera fix?
How to uninstall the gingerbread theme from epic 4g
I tried to install the new gingerbread theme for my epic 4g, and I accidentally installed it twice, and now my phone is trying to run it, but since it was installed twice, it is forcing all of my applications closed. Is there any way I can go into my phone and uninstall the theme, and reinstall properly? Please advise
Hello all. Thought I would post this here in the hopes of getting some comments from Incredible owners.
I currently own a D2G but might have the opportunity to trade for an Incredible. Asking for comments here because while I do know my phone well I don't know much about the HTC.
Specifically...
How's the ROM support...currently D2G has one option (Fission) and I am the type that likes to bounce from ROM to ROM to make my phone feel "new" again
The D2G is wicked fast...never any lag in my experience...how about the HTC?
Hardware keyboard is not a concern...I never use it.
I know this is all personal preference but the HTC is coming up on being a year old I think so I'm looking for some honest and forthright OPINIONS here
Thanks for reading
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If your worried about having the newest and best stick with your D2G. If you want ROM support go to the Inc. Honestly wait for the Thunderbolt cause that is going to be the Inc's big brother. I expect alot of ROM support for that.
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A few friends on mine have the Droid2 and personally I loathe it.
Using the inc is so fast and smooth, plus the huge developer community. But like rich said, the Thunderbolt is coming out soon if you need the latest and greatest
It looks like this time around the Droid x is going to get the gingerbread build before us
Hands-on with Gingerbread on Droid X http://bit.ly/dH0pvV
Does anyone remember that when our evo got froyo, Droid x got it a few weeks later! What you guys think?
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I think there is already a thread about gingerbread on the evo here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866245
This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.
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This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.
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Actually Sony.(Joke joke teehee)
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This thread make it seem like the Droid X and the Evo are both by HTC. Droid X is Motorola.
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Really? Ha ha I would never thought of it like that, but man this would really sucked if my Droid x friends get official gingerbread first
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Yea it seems that not only are motorola phones gonna beat us...but maybe *gasp* samsung as well. Definitely something to consider when buying HTC it seems.
I'll eventually be a google phone only guy with all the carrier/manufacturer bs going on.
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Yea it seems that not only are motorola phones gonna beat us...but maybe *gasp* samsung as well. Definitely something to consider when buying HTC it seems.
I'll eventually be a google phone only guy with all the carrier/manufacturer bs going on.
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Yeah that's the only reason that I'm reconsidering to get the evo 3D for nexus s but the GPS issue with Sammy's phones piss me off if it would made HTC it would be a non brainier, I know HTC is delaying to update the HTC evo to make people buy the new phones but I don't think is right, at the end I might end up staying with my evo and get the ipad 2 I got apps on my iPhone the looks like.they got ipad support so wouldn't have to buy them again LOL
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And this is why I'm leaning towards a Nexus S over the Evo 3D.
i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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my thoughts exactly. wtf htc + sprint.
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i saw this thread just before i made one with the exact same topic. you beat me to it.
ya i agree. samsung has leaks out for some galaxy s already, most of which are still eclair btw, and now motorolla has leaks for the droid x and 2? what the hell is going on here? isnt htc supposed to be the company that comes out with everything first? when gb came out, there was a thread that said htc would update ~ February, motorolla around april, and sammy like summer. this seems completely backwards to me.
and didnt an htc rep say they were working on gb for evo around when nexus s was announced? i kno implementing sense is hard and takes a lot of difficult coding and stuff, but 4 months should be more than enough time for paid professionals.
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Yeah they probably have it running but they want people to.buy a new device but I think is BS, thank God we got.CyanogenMod but still we deserve a full gingerbread experience with 2.0 sense
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Yeah they probably have it running but they want people to.buy a new device but I think is BS, thank God we got.CyanogenMod but still we deserve a full gingerbread experience with 2.0 sense
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Exactly what they want, Hell if we can get GB with sense 2.0 I'm sure most people are still going to buy the Evo 3D, it's a dual core phone! Of course most of us will buy it.
I hope the update comes with Sense 2.1. It has some sweet features.
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yea a buddy sent me a pic of his droid x with the 2.3.3 build .... i went WTF .. the nexusS it starting to win me over
There is just something about having a Google phone that sreams "baller" to me....(Nexus)
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If they pushed 2.3 for the EVO before the EVO3D was released it would actually make me want to buy the 3D more.
When I go to buy a phone now that I have experience with them.. I will look for a couple major things.
1. Battery life. Let's face it, new features are nothing if your phone dies in 6 hours.
2. Manufacturer/Dev support. If the EVO only gets one update then has to wait until the latest thing comes out before it gets another... then that's a HUGE setback for me, especially if we have a locked bootloader and AOSP roms aren't possible.
Samsung has a horrible rep but the battery life on their phones are reportedly outstanding. They aren't locking the phones down. They did stink it up in a HUGE way with the 2.2 update but if they push 2.3 out ASAP it goes a long way in my eyes.
I HATE HATE touchwiz, but if the phone isn't locked down then it doesn't much matter.
Samsungs phones are locked as well... the evo is too. Motos new phones are encrypted which is the problem.
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I think a lot of people thought exactly what I thought. I saw the galaxy getting the official leak and thought what is going on. Htc is usually first on the scene with this type of stuff. Then today I saw motorola getting some love from the leaks. If both companies drop gingerbread before htc it will look bad on htc. They will be on 2.2 and everyone else on 2.3 and with the evo being seen as one of the best, it would be a shame. I hope HTC changes their mind and just drops gingerbread. I will even take Sense 2.0 and nothing else right now. The new features can come later.
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I think a lot of people thought exactly what I thought. I saw the galaxy getting the official leak and thought what is going on. Htc is usually first on the scene with this type of stuff. Then today I saw motorola getting some love from the leaks. If both companies drop gingerbread before htc it will look bad on htc. They will be on 2.2 and everyone else on 2.3 and with the evo being seen as one of the best, it would be a shame. I hope HTC changes their mind and just drops gingerbread. I will even take Sense 2.0 and nothing else right now. The new features can come later.
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Agree I don't care much for gingerbread what I want the most is a 100% working sense 2.0 desing for Evo with 4G , I know myn work in a nnice rom but I'm sure everyone agrees when I say that if HTC realese will be more stable and all features working and let EVO developers get their hand on it
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i think...
moto and sammy are doing market clean up and PR repair.. knee jerk reaction to some surveys done last month about which OEM is faster and better support of upgrades/updates. HTC as at the top of most.
so here is moto and sammy trying to get public favor back. before they release their next big phone. and as most knee-jerk reactions.. the implementation will not be stable and full of bugs.. or low in features.
then back to waiting for the fixes and updates for the upgrade issues.
HTC is staying the course with their proven market strategy.
but I do hope that the quick release of gb on moto and sammy will quicken the gb release from htc on evo!
I am sure none of you really know me but I have been around for awhile, first came here with an HTC Touch, loaded up window mobile roms and hacks.
Tested roms here and there for winmo 6.5 and android for the vogue, disappeared after downgrading to a blackberry then I came back when I got my HTC Hero.
I have posted few but learned alot, enough to run a small little gig of phone modifications on top of my freelance computer engineering. I have recently obtained an Evo Shift after my mom used my upgrade so I used my dads. After chopping off sense and enjoying the amazing performance of this 2nd Gen processor I have to say goodbye to this Hero forum and move onto the Shift as my new home.
I will probably be in and our picking up roms for my dad and running to the evo 3D for my mom but that's about it.
Sorry if this is a "who are you" kind of outting, just felt like saying goodbye :] take care.
Hey, we all move on pimpin. Just keep being active in the forums and we're all bound to come across each other again; like how most of us did in the Evo 3D forum.
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I am sure none of you really know me but I have been around for awhile, first came here with an HTC Touch, loaded up window mobile roms and hacks.
Tested roms here and there for winmo 6.5 and android for the vogue, disappeared after downgrading to a blackberry then I came back when I got my HTC Hero.
I have posted few but learned alot, enough to run a small little gig of phone modifications on top of my freelance computer engineering. I have recently obtained an Evo Shift after my mom used my upgrade so I used my dads. After chopping off sense and enjoying the amazing performance of this 2nd Gen processor I have to say goodbye to this Hero forum and move onto the Shift as my new home.
I will probably be in and our picking up roms for my dad and running to the evo 3D for my mom but that's about it.
Sorry if this is a "who are you" kind of outting, just felt like saying goodbye :] take care.
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It's the sense of connection and togetherness that makes our Hero CDMA forums so great. We have such an active and friendly community that rivals other forums. Just take a look at the Evo 3D forums and look at the chaos, disorganization, and swarm of noobs DEMANDING stuff. I know when I move into the Evo 3D forums, I'm still gonna come back and help my fellow heroc members. Have fun!
I am still running through these forums looking at what's new, sad thing is we are getting a large amount of new shift owners since bestbuy made it free for upgrade. They are all bugging us about rooting 2.3 which is currently not available but hopefully Revolutionary fixes this so they can stop filling up the sections.
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I am still running through these forums looking at what's new, sad thing is we are getting a large amount of new shift owners since bestbuy made it free for upgrade. They are all bugging us about rooting 2.3 which is currently not available but hopefully Revolutionary fixes this so they can stop filling up the sections.
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Yeah lol, the hero has a bunch of old school people on our forums. A whole bunch of those new phones are attracting people who don't know what they're doing as rooting is becoming more popular.
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Yeah lol, the hero has a bunch of old school people on our forums. A whole bunch of those new phones are attracting people who don't know what they're doing as rooting is becoming more popular.
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And they think its as simple and safe as jailbreaking. They need to learn about ADB and the other little goodies before rooting, maybe even a little common sense. Too many one click root babies.
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Who remembers rooting by ADB?
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I do. Never want to go back.
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It's the sense of connection and togetherness that makes our Hero CDMA forums so great. We have such an active and friendly community that rivals other forums. Just take a look at the Evo 3D forums and look at the chaos, disorganization, and swarm of noobs DEMANDING stuff. I know when I move into the Evo 3D forums, I'm still gonna come back and help my fellow heroc members. Have fun!
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+100
I know I don't drop by to visit enough, but the Hero CDMA community is the best. Love my new phone, but love the Hero community even more.
I remember that ughh I think it took me week to root my hero. My first rom was Fresssshhhh
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I remember that ughh I think it took me week to root my hero. My first rom was Fresssshhhh
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I did my rooting Christmas day and loaded up aosp's gingerbread back before anything really worked. Then to his 2.2 ROM until 2.3 got more stuff. Good times.
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