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The race is on. Samsung vs. Developers.

Our development team who has been assigned to the vibrant seem to have stalled out on interest in porting CM over to our beloved vibrant. I wonder if Samsung will actually release 2.2 before the developers.
Just curious if anyone knows why its moving along so slowly.
I was really hoping to see more fanfare over the vibrant being such a fabulous piece of hardware.
And with that being said.... those who live to rip someone to shreds for talking such blasphemy.... lemme have it.
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Sent from my Samsung vibrant.

If you offer to bankroll their efforts, they might be able to allocate more of their time to Vibrant development.

It's moving slowly since the Cyan devs are still working on the MT3GS. All the supplies (I think) are in place since Wes (The Cyan developer for this phone) got a phone to work on.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

I am just being patient and know that it will be all worth it when it does eventually gets ported over.
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18.4009 said:
Our development team who has been assigned to the vibrant seem to have stalled out on interest in porting CM over to our beloved vibrant. I wonder if Samsung will actually release 2.2 before the developers.
Just curious if anyone knows why its moving along so slowly.
I was really hoping to see more fanfare over the vibrant being such a fabulous piece of hardware.
And with that being said.... those who live to rip someone to shreds for talking such blasphemy.... lemme have it.
18.4009
Sent from my Samsung vibrant.
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Samsung said "End of September" which really mean "at the earliest." I have little doubt the CM6 team will have a ROM out long before then.

vinnydakid said:
It's moving slowly since the Cyan devs are still working on the MT3GS. All the supplies (I think) are in place since Wes (The Cyan developer for this phone) got a phone to work on.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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^^ this is correct, once the slide is done we should see some progress :]

in all honesty, if i was them i would wait. Do all the prep work that is necessary and just wait for Samsung to release the 2.2 source to mod from, it would make it that much easier and more compatible.
I say that fully expecting Samsung not to change anything and that means leaving root/clockwork being super easy to implement. Now should that change, then the prep work is done, just have to get cooking

Wes is a fabulous dev. (kicked him some funds back in the G1 dev days.
I think he should toss that slide to the. Curb and work on a real phone.
Sent from my Samsung vibrant.

18.4009 said:
Wes is a fabulous dev. (kicked him some funds back in the G1 dev days.
I think he should toss that slide to the. Curb and work on a real phone.
Sent from my Samsung vibrant.
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Plus one on this. The phones got awesome specs to work with. I wish I knew how..lol but ill still try and be patient ...
I could have sworn the evo had roms after a month.. were no where near close to that time frame....

I still don't think Wes should of called that if he got extra donation money for his "laptop" he would purchase a Vibrant and dev for it if he wasn't going to be doing it right away. Since that did kind of help people who has a Vibrant donate for his laptop. I'm glad that there are other talents out there coming into the Vibrant community though.
Saw bbuchacher, justanotherdev, eugene coming along. Hopefully everything will fall into pieces in the upcoming month. And yeah I don't even think myTouch Slide is even popular at all, so iono. Not trying to be impatient or "cry" about it but just speaking justification point of view. Just my 2 cents.

I think most of you guys need to just chill out. Im no where close to being a dev and almost every mod I did on my G1 i've flashed, if you're in the same boat, then definitely need to stop questioning developemnt. If you read closer, or really followed the updates from the other threads, devs and twitter updates you'd see that there is more going on.
Now I can be completely wrong with this, but here is what im getting out of what the current status of Vibrant development is:
-The MTS is currently "first in line" to be caught up to CM6
-The MTS was/is having problems running CM6 being "stable", even with the phone still being manufactured by HTC and Cyanogen working along with side with the devs assigned to it
-Eugene, JAC and others have started to breakdown and develop the Vibrant
-JAC has been asked to merge his work to Github....
Make your conclusions... Donate... Start deving... Shut up... Remember no dev owes you anything.
EDIT: Donation- an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution... usually not tied to any personal gain.

I keep seeing the "Don't worry when CM6 hits it will be amazing. Don't worry when CM6 comes it will fix the problem."
HTC and Samsung are very different animals. Devs have come and gone as well.
Motorola
HTC
Samsung
You tell me why its going to take so long or be a bit slower? It takes time and there simply has to be a lot of interest from the dev and the users.
I'm just kicking back watching and hoping for the best.

zephiK said:
I still don't think Wes should of called that if he got extra donation money for his "laptop" he would purchase a Vibrant and dev for it if he wasn't going to be doing it right away. Since that did kind of help people who has a Vibrant donate for his laptop. I'm glad that there are other talents out there coming into the Vibrant community though.
Saw bbuchacher, justanotherdev, eugene coming along. Hopefully everything will fall into pieces in the upcoming month. And yeah I don't even think myTouch Slide is even popular at all, so iono. Not trying to be impatient or "cry" about it but just speaking justification point of view. Just my 2 cents.
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Last time I checked his Twitter, Dell is taking forever to get his laptop to him as he did some customization to the configuration... Dell took over a month to get my mom her laptop when she changed a few options.

clarkeismine said:
Last time I checked his Twitter, Dell is taking forever to get his laptop to him as he did some customization to the configuration... Dell took over a month to get my mom her laptop when she changed a few options.
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Took me over 2 months for Dell to build a laptop actually, I'm never buying from Dell again.
Still saying, there was a forum thread on the Development forum saying to donate to Wes to get the Vibrant and all that. Kind of a deceiving, im not impatient whatsoever.
Wes still has access to a computer, I believe and is coding for the Slide so it's not like he doesn't have a computer.
I understand that it would look bad on his part if he bailed on the Slide like that. There could of been better outcomes if a developer who was primarily dedicated to porting CM6 to the Vibrant from the very beginning rather than as a secondary objective.
wesgarner and Scepterr are the developers assigned to the Samsung Galaxy S.
I just donated $25. Donate and lets get this phone off the ground.
Thanks for the donations Wes has his Vibrant coming and soon his laptop. Great Job!!
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zephiK said:
I understand that it would look bad on his part if he bailed on the Slide like that. There could of been better outcomes if a developer who was primarily dedicated to porting CM6 to the Vibrant from the very beginning rather than as a secondary objective.
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There are a few already in the development forum. Not sure if any of them are "Teamdouche" but none the less they are devs. JAC already said "I'll be moving my stuff to Github upon request" and "As long as I'm credited for my work you can use it."

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!
what a bunch of cry babies don't worry the Vibrant's turn will come, its definitely a good platform worth doing **** to, a few little things here and there are messed up with the phone but its nothing that hasn't already been addressed.
just be patient, you have to remember that its not like it used to be. Its not just the G1 anymore its a **** load of Android phones with their own issues and with a bunch of cry baby owners just like you lol
the day XDA goes away is the day all of you guys will pull all your hair out. the phones been out for a couple weeks and to be honest i dont think the Galaxy S line sold as well as a lot of other high end devices (EVO,Droid X) so of course devs are gonna go where the masses are.
You think we have it bad? go look at the Captivate section of XDA, they dont have ****, no cases, no roms and out of the Galaxy S line we actually have a decent amount of little morphs and fixes to get us by for now. Be patient dont give up
if you built it they will come

we'l c wut happens lol

I am by no means complaining and am not at all a developer. just a happy android user and rom flasher I just came from MT3G.
I know the Vibrant is new, but with a Galaxy being released on all 4 major carriers, I am honestly surprised a bunch of developers have not jumped all over the Vibrant and Captivate that are out with the 2 others expected soon...I mean this is basically the first time that I know of that virtually the same phone is being released on all 4 US carriers! it seems like a developers dream. are the US galaxy's just still too new?
Going along with that, when Dev start making Roms for US Galaxys, will basically all the same Roms easily run on all 4 US Galaxy variants? basically will they just need some very minor tweaking bc the same hardware? (except for qwerty version)? or will there have to be major modding with the same rom between the different US variants? (if very little tweaking is needed, that is why it seems to me that the US galaxy S versions would be so appealing to dev's)
Lastly, even though ive not rooted mine yet, (mt3g was rooted for the past year), I am looking forward to CM6 like everyone else. But it seems thats mostly what I have seen talked about is CM6. no doubt that the CM team are at the top of the game, but what about developers bringing other Roms too, for example Sense? I am just wondering why most seem to just talk about wanting CM6 when there are tons of other developers and other Roms (coming from my experience with g1/mt3g)?
I know this was a long post, but these topics have been on my mind lately. what do you guys think to any of my thoughts/questions posted above?

The phones haven't even been out a month, give it time. They're drastically different from the HTC setup that most devs are used to, so there is a steep learning curve that needs to be tackled. Also the devs have more then one phone on their plate. They should focus on what they started first before taking on another project, so I expect them to get the slide where it needs to be before starting on the galaxy s.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant

Guys, we have a custom kernel. That was a huge step. There is significant progress here. JACs kernel is on rev2. We have other good devs outside of the main CM team looking at things as well. Give them some time, this is a whole new way of doing things, they are having to learn how Samsung does stuff. I honestly think we will see a custom AOSP 2.2 before Samsung releases their custom one.

Is myTouch Slide Dead?

Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]

By no means is it dead.

Dragons lie still in deathlike slumber until awakened to unleash their powerful presence upon the world of mortals yet again...aka no the slide isn't dead . Development has slowed a bit but that's mainly because there are a few key ROMs out that are being focused on. I'd rather have a selection of 3 or 4 good ROMs than dozens of crappy ones wouldn't you?
Edit: You might also want to change the title to "Is the myTouch Slide dead?" so people don't come here expecting to flame and mods don't move it without reading.

yea true...it is better to have few good roms than many bad....but it is even getting difficult to find few good roms, the only good one i have found is cyanogenmod. I will try ararays once it comes out.i hope it is great.

ksubedi said:
Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
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The MTS is pretty much dead outside of CM6 development, T-Mobile pretty much abandoned their Espresso 2.2 plans and not a whole lot of people purchased the Slide. Most who did traded it away for the HD2 or Vibrant.

What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling

thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!

Dude you got a good point there,I would also want to thank the devs for there hard work as well.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

arayray said:
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.

lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!

Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.

nbetcher said:
The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.

It can't be dead if roms are still being developed on it.
daniel, arayray, joker, others (you know who you are).....
are doing the same thing as other devs are doing on other phones.
And it's definitely much more alive than it was a couple months ago.
Froyo/Sense hybrid + some cool features...... = definitely not dead.
A big thanks to the devs/modders.

Until CM other Modders/Devs dont produce any roms then its dead. How would you consider this phone dead when you have CM support and a nightly everyday or so. This phone isnt dead

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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

The development for the Slide is much much slower yes, and I am definitely not a fan of the lack of kernel development for this phone. Most of the sense roms look and feel the same, in my opinion. None of the froyo sense ports work too well, most of them either kb lights or wifi is broken. The eclair ports are pretty good, but I still prefer cr_mod. Cm6 is fairly active, but honestly, it's kind of a boring ROM. It's great and fast, but when I had my g1 I loved more the ROMs that were cm roms, plus awesome theming and the devs own twists and performance tweaks. Why don't we have more of that? We have some themed cm6 roms from miguel and one other I am blanking out on, but they are based off of nightlies, most from october or earlier, before many issues were fixed or improvements made.
Honestly, it'd be cooler to have more than just cyanogenmod and sense roms, which is why I'm excited for arayraymod, but where I'd really like to see a development boost is in the kernel area. I'm stable to 844mhz, pretty good. But our kernel from dumfuq lacks things like the brainfuck scheduler, I think it's called at least, and of course, smartass cpu governor. If we see anything I would like to see smartass incorporated. At least an undervolt?
I know, I'm digressing, this isn't a request thread by any means. The Slide isn't dead I don't think but sometimes I can't help but compare our forums to pretty much any other android phone and see how our development is depressingly slow. At least it isn't totally dead yet. If that tmo froyo ota really does come out then it may give a needed boost, hopefully at least.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-slide/203166-i-got-2-2-t-mo-thread.html
The thread starts off as your typical useless thread, but the more you read, the more possible it is that Froyo will be released. There are some independent accounts of what HTC and/or T-Mo said, but I'll say this now: if it doesn't come out by the end of December then it aint ever coming out.
I still think my previous statements about the Slide being heavily delayed and otherwise a failure (to T-Mo), are true. We'll see if T-Mo wants to hold up their end of the bargain on Froyo, however.

I think I'm up for a full upgrade in the next couple months. Come March, I'm planning on selling the Slide and getting something more top-of-the-line. I originally went with this phone because of the keyboard, but after having Swype and SwiftKey for a while, there's just no need. We got my wife a 4G yesterday and it's pretty sexy.

arayray said:
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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A .32+ kernel would be nice as well.
ksubedi said:
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
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Flash: You are using the Flash Lite plugin that came with stock Espresso, most likely, as Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration requires an ARMv7 processor where the Slide possesses an ARMv6.
Bootanimation: Change the speed in desc.txt.
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lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
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The original Espresso leak was leaked in 2009.
arayray said:
Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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Well, Motorola had already done the majority of the work involved in porting 2.1 to the Cliq before T-Mobile started dropping high-end phones. It would've be cost ineffective of them to just drop the project all together. I will bet you almost anything that the Cliq will not receive an official 2.2 OTA (even though there are some alpha unofficial ports).
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I love T-Mobile, but they are absolutely horrible at sending out major OTA updates in a timely manner.
Cliq: Almost a year
Slide: Nope
G2: N/A
Mytouch 4G: N/A
Mytouch 3G: Over a year
G1: Nope
Vibrant: Nope (the latest leak is probably the final build, though)
Mytouch 3G 3mm/Fender: Nope (last I heard, at least)
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Agreed.
I'm not trying to dash anyones hopes here, CM development activity was probably continue until it cannot without a newer kernel to base on, but the MTS community is small and is getting smaller. It has been an amazing trip, and I think we can all say we have met some awesome people here, but the Slide was essentially dead-on-arrival.

Two things, CM development is still going strong. He said he's got the .32 kernel booting just not with wifi (or wifi calling not sure which) so that's not really an issue at the moment and it should show up pretty soon. Also the MT3G fender has a 2.2 update, or at least a version. I helped someone with one put froyo on it so it might just be a bit of a tweaked port but I think it's official. He wasn't rooted and he didnt get a signature issue so thats what I'm basing my guess on.

Evo Development at a standstill?

Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.

The odd thing is that I was thinking the exact opposite. A while back I was on warm rls2 and not finding the desire to flash. Now im flashing 3 times a week. Between the cm7 gingerbread combo, miuiu, elite, warm, ava, milk froyo, the desire hd rims, liquid... its a party.

I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.

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I would have to agree with the above post... Despite the fact that I stick to CM7, when I browse the development section there are numerous updated roms. I was actually taking back by the comment that you feel there is a "standstill". If you only stick to sense then there not be much going on, But in the ASOP world there is plenty going on.
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Agreed. I flash almost every nightly on cm7. Development is still happening.
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kenfly said:
Well it seems not a lot is going on in the development thread anymore. Not much really new. It'll prob pick up after GB officially releases or another HC SDK is released with more features.
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as others have stated, CM7 GB nightlies, new MIUI, Wimax on CM, Full HDMI out port, JsChiSurf porting all kinds of stuff from CM into Sense, and the list could go on forever...
The sense based ROMs won't be updated until the next OTA/leak from HTC, however, there is a lot going on for the EVO.
I just got WiMax so I haven't tried out CM7 or the AOSP WiMax beta, once they are stable, I might make the AOSP jump permanetly.
Very exciting times

if this is a standstill....how would you describe the epic development ???

Non existant
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this thread is beyond rediculous

I agree with the above post.

Yeah, what exactly was this thread supposed to accomplish??

it has to do with acceleration, the dev thread has been accelerating so fast that it has reached a peak, there is tons of new so it's not that it's stale but rather theres not even more new stuff.
months ago there was a new thing every day, then there were 2, then 3, now theres still 3 new everyday but no 4 new or 5 new

Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.

I would not say stand still, things are pretty much refined nowadays. as for CM7 we are waiting for an offical update for the nexus one then that will be become stable and have good drivers written for it.
Standstill no,

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Between the development standstill and the Gingerbread setback, it's amazing people are still hanging around here.
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where else would we go except to the nexus s. only phone with 2.3,

I will welcome the day when development is actually at a standstill, because most likely it'll be when the evo is close enough to being "done"
I love tweaking my phone as much as the next nightly romfiend, but its nice when i can just use my device. I had a great time when i was using CM6.1.2 w/ wimax since that implementation was only on one build and so i couldn't flash nightlies. I am now having the same great time on CM7 wimax.
Its nice to just use my phone, and people can call me now and i won't be in recovery when they do, WOOT!

I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet

NewZJ said:
I too wish recovery had a dailer, I might actually use it as a phone instead of a small tablet with unlimited internet
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How significant are the nightly updates on CM? I just got a new replacement in today and I might consider trying it out (currently on Fresh on my current phone).
Call me crazy, but I feel a lot of the CM updates are stuff we've had with Sense a while back.

the nightlys you don't have to constantly update when a new one comes out, grab the newest and when you feel the urge to update then go for it, its mostly perfected

after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.

fixxxer2008 said:
after summer i think development will slow down alot on the evo as it will be well over a year old. most including me will probably be on the next android device sprint offers.
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If sprint has a next device... :O
I probably will too.

Such little development on the slide?

Can anyone tell my why the mytouch slide development scene is so dead? Everytime I check there is only about 14 people view where as the ancient G1 has over 130 people every time. Filled with no roms that should even be possible on the g1. I even notice this in the droid forums as well but the slide is much faster than the droid yet they have a huge dev scene with a lot of AOSP development going on and they even have the popular miui rom. Anyone care to shed some light on this and give your thoughts?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=766002
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838682
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860308
We dead scares for almost 4 months last year. There might be an answer in one of those 3 threads.
I'm thinking a lot of the developers that were actually doing things got better phones and just moved on. There's still people out there with little surprises popping up... But yeah, it's kind of quiet around here.
I'd like to see an miui rom ;_;

biglo said:
Can anyone tell my why the mytouch slide development scene is so dead? Everytime I check there is only about 14 people view where as the ancient G1 has over 130 people every time. Filled with no roms that should even be possible on the g1. I even notice this in the droid forums as well but the slide is much faster than the droid yet they have a huge dev scene with a lot of AOSP development going on and they even have the popular miui rom. Anyone care to shed some light on this and give your thoughts?
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hey biglo ik that is what it seems like, but on the contrary, dev for the slide specifically might not be as active as Galaxy S, but as sefEXE said, suprises pop up. U hav to do a little searching to find what you want! So far i have found many things like small time roms and even HD HVGA hacked games (like nova, fast 5, etc.) on these very forums. more than likely they will be posted in a forum with a phone that is similar to the MT3GS, or in the android forum itself! trust and believe though that the android community has not forgotten the thing that put it on the map!
but i agree with sefEXE, miui rom wud b awesome
p.s. i am studying up on how to become a dev! may take time but i can do it , so expect the rom of a lifetime in the coming months (that is, if life doesnt come in and take all the freetime in my life away lol)

Thanks for the reply and good luck accomplishing your goal of becoming a dev. I was trying to learn how to theme but had to take a break.
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I'm actually pretty pleased with the dev community here. it's become sort of a niche. I love my slide. I only wish it had a 1ghz processor. I think what we have here is quality over quantity. The devs that stick with the slide do it because they love it. The few stable roms we have are great.

agreed with digitaldreamer7 ... i guess we will feel better when chacha and salsa roms are totally working, i will use this for a long time if those roms are totally working

i came from the cliq community at simply-android.com and their ROM selection is crazy. There is seriously over 50 ROMS to choose from and have some of the nicest ppl ever. i bought a slide bc i wanted cyanogen on my phone. and now the cliq has a fully functioning CM7 ROM. who would of thought.

cory0821 said:
i came from the cliq community at simply-android.com and their ROM selection is crazy. There is seriously over 50 ROMS to choose from and have some of the nicest ppl ever. i bought a slide bc i wanted cyanogen on my phone. and now the cliq has a fully functioning CM7 ROM. who would of thought.
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+1 to everything you just said. EXACTLY same story as me

Cliq was a real ****ty phone though, and now the Cliq 2 has no roms.

Is Evo 4g on its last breath?

With less and less devs working on the Evo 4G nowadays, I ask, is Evo 4G officially being forced to retire? I myself even went to check on upgrading to the 3VO. It's no fun without any new Roms to play with. Being a flashoholic, I'm suffering from withdrawal, and it's hard to deal with.

What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.

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What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.

JKDLBC said:
Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Newer devices are going to have more support than older.
However, it's also true that the source code for Gingerbread for the Evo was only released a few days ago.

This Guy must have missed the development thread....
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I don’t know, it looks like we shall be set free, in good time but in a "registered" kind of way. At least that is what I am getting from 3D forums and the f+Bk page.

I could be wrong about all of this, but to me, the writing is on the wall. I really feel the demise of EVO 4G, as far as development standpoint. The latest talks is that most of the devs are jumping ship. I mean, can you really blame them. Great phone that has been improved. I've even seen what could be called a collection plates to get certain devs 3VOs. No disrespect to anyone doing. Hard/good work should not go without its just reward.

I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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ckoadiyn said:
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.

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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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I have to agree here. I think a lot of people have gotten into the habit of changing ROMs on a way too frequent basis, to the point where they're switching weekly with 4-6 Nandroid backups of different ROMs so they can jump around as much as they want.
That list above is the true goal of Android development. If I find a good ROM, and there's relatively little bugs (especially less than stock), looks great, gives me something flashy (like Sense 3.0) I can be satisfied for months at a time, not even updating most of that time.
Unless there is something that has yet to be perfected on the EVO, development could halt right now and it wouldn't hurt what we already have. Look at all the things that's been done for the EVO since release:
Wireless N
HDMI-to-TV mirroring
Hacked hotspot
Notification bar power controls
4G on CM7
Hacked Hulu (which is now pointless, but eh)
...and more I just can't remember right now because I haven't had my morning coffee yet. The EVO has actually evolved (no pun intended) over the last year and 2 months, and like any piece of hardware, we're going to reach the limits. But the EVO has shaped the future of Android forever, and that's what we need to remember most.
Our community has created some of the most amazing pieces of code Android has ever seen, and that will only get better with the 3D. Time to move on...if I had the money, I'd get the 3D too, but that's just because I can't root my replacement EVO...

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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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That is my point. We have reached the pinnacle, when it comes to development for the EVO. As a dev, why wouldn't you feel it's time to move on? Their work here is done. The writing is on the wall guys. The most they can do is make minor mods here. The next challenge is 3VO or some other device. I will not mention those other devices by name, I am EVO.

I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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Justin.G11 said:
I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I completely agree here. My EVO is doing everything I could possibly want! We "may" be seeing the end of OS development for this phone, but now their concentrating on kernels now that the source has been out for a couple of weeks.

I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace

djwalter said:
I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace
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I do not believe this statement is too strong at all. Technology moves at a very rapid pace. Once something hits the shelves it's already old technology. Lets take the iPad (yes, I dare to mention this) for example. This was once a revolutionary product, except now, we have the Tablet, the Eee Pad, the iPad2, etc. You yourself even call it by the name OG EVO, which usually signifies something old. So yes, SIR, I do dare say that the EVO is on its last breath.
P.S Trade-in your EVO for a $125 credit toward the 3VO

I guess we look at last breath differently. To me last breath means no more support. Apps no longer supported etc. But we are different people and view things differently.
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