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Our hard work is finally worth it. To day I e-mail to HTC about OTA update for wildfire to unlock bootloader, and this is their reply:
"Dear Nhan,
Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, we are pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative.
However, we currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via through our official website and official social media outlets.
We currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked. Please keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked.
HTC
Sincerely,"
That means there will be OTA update for some existing locked phones,but ("We currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked"). However , It's a good new ,right? And wildfire is also one of their big budgets , so I think later or soon, there will be a OTA updates for wildfire to unlock bootloader.
Of course that's just my thought
Sorry for my thread's title, I can't change it in the "edit post"
This Threat sounds like "there is allready an update"...
but there is NO UPDATE!
Choose a correct Threat name next time...
Oh and "yeah nice, we all can clearly see that the Wildfire is getting an OTA Update to be unlocked... we all can clearly read it in the mail that you got from HTC".
No more useful than the Facebook post they issued!
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It does say thqt some existing devices will be unlocked
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Oops i read it wrong
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I'm sorry , I just so excited when they say that they "have decided to go forward with this initiative"...sorry . next time i won't bother you again
Well, that sounds like atleast some current phones will be unlocked. That means firstly the already released phones like sensation, desire s ... will be unlocked. That sounds to me that wildfire (if they wish to) takes a long time to get unlocked. Maybe 6months or an year. Because they have to increase the sales of their current devices which is done in 2 ways -----1) unlocking the newer devices faster. 2) keeping the older devices locked so that some older customers choose the newer devices.
Well, if they choose to unlock wildfire then i think it will be the last phone to get unlocked. Because it is the first phone that is hardly locked. Not to disappoint u guys, but just telling the facts.
bharatgaddameedi said:
Well, that sounds like atleast some current phones will be unlocked. That means firstly the already released phones like sensation, desire s ... will be unlocked. That sounds to me that wildfire (if they wish to) takes a long time to get unlocked. Maybe 6months or an year. Because they have to increase the sales of their current devices which is done in 2 ways -----1) unlocking the newer devices faster. 2) keeping the older devices locked so that some older customers choose the newer devices.
Well, if they choose to unlock wildfire then i think it will be the last phone to get unlocked. Because it is the first phone that is hardly locked. Not to disappoint u guys, but just telling the facts.
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Yes, and we need to boost up the progress by email them, held a campaign, begging them... what ever it takes
Yesterday I mailed HTC to ask whether or not the Wildfire will be unlocked as well. This is the answer I received:
"We currently don't have specific information which phones
will be unlocked, but it's a distinct possibility."
mtnhan1996 said:
Yes, and we need to boost up the progress by email them, held a campaign, begging them... what ever it takes
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Yes. It's needed I think.
Everyone became calm with the statement by HTC. I don't know how many are presently expecting them to unlock wildfire. I expected that the groubal will continue till devices are unlocked. But the groubal is static now. The signs are not at all moving.
It would have been nice if HTC atleast gave an official statement that they will atleast unlock the present unrootable devices.
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mtnhan1996 said:
I'm sorry , I just so excited when they say that they "have decided to go forward with this initiative"...sorry . next time i won't bother you again
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It's not about you not sharing / posting. I would just ask you to rephrase the title. I thought indeed that a new OTA is out already. Please try reading it again, you will see what I mean.
Yes, change the title of thread lol. U can change it from edit post.
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"However, we currently don’t have a schedule yet"
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I hate this word...
I agree, I thought the same about the title
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an admin should check from time to time this sub forum and delete the threads that are the same, again and again the same stuff... and the name of this thread should be changed also, fooling people for nothing.
i bet htc could have launched the ota update in that day, right after they announced they would unlock the bootloaders, they don't have hundreds of different devices, i believe less then 20 are with locked bootloaders..
and in the end, if it will be a ota update, we will see it in a few months, that's just business
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It's not about you not sharing / posting. I would just ask you to rephrase the title. I thought indeed that a new OTA is out already. Please try reading it again, you will see what I mean.
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thank you for not mad at me. next time I will carefully consider about the title. Thank you for notice me!
bharatgaddameedi said:
Yes. It's needed I think.
Everyone became calm with the statement by HTC. I don't know how many are presently expecting them to unlock wildfire. I expected that the groubal will continue till devices are unlocked. But the groubal is static now. The signs are not at all moving.
It would have been nice if HTC atleast gave an official statement that they will atleast unlock the present unrootable devices.
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That's mean we still not succeed yet, continue working brothers!
I think they should release an update only to people who want it.so people not intrested in rooting don't need to update and they still make money
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Just a FYI, I was on the phone with one of my friend HTC engineers, long distance from outside the USA, which he gave me some good gossip about the G2.
*Take it for what is worth. I do admit this my not be new info to some.
1) There is a OTA update coming for the G2 which will DEFINITELY cause you to loose root, and A LOT OF WORK has gone into the update to prevent rooting. Matter of fact, my HTC friend tells me that the encryption algorithm will almost make it impossible to root. My opinion, nothing is impossible!
2) BTW, there IS MAJOR development in up coming new tech with 3D displays. My little 'rumor mill' friend informed me that he seen a Android live wallpaper in 3D fire that looks so realistic that when you tilt the device forward, the icons actually go through the flames.
3) He told me that when the G2 was originally released, it was purposely done to make it hard to root, and now with the Gingerbread OTA update just around the corner (he said it may happen in July) by the time IF anyone figures out how to root it, the phone will be completely outdated.
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So after weeks of saying they're unlocking bootloaders, opening sense to developers and changing their ways... You're saying your friend knows they're lying?
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So after weeks of saying they're unlocking bootloaders, opening sense to developers and changing their ways... You're saying your friend knows they're lying?
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I dunno, but its true that bootloaders and rooting are 2 separate things anyway. He's referencing rooting this latest stock GB rom, not unlocking bootloaders.
*edit-
It seems there is an 'official' leaked rom out there that is digitally signed by HTC and also T-Morgul (misspending is applied) that after flashed, perm-root has not yet been achieved. Now the great devs that stripped the GB rom (from the raw, has rooted it), so you can flash a rooted version, but hasn't yet rooted after flash.
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hard to believe.
I find when people are lying they add useless information like "a long distance phone call" and "out of usa."
Were this true imd expect somthing like "i was talking to a buddy of mine that works for htc. He heard they had some new encyption that will take forever to root!"
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I would say he is lying, but after spending some time in the irc its not looking so good. They even blocked the fail safe goldcard method for downgrading. I think this is bad news being one of the first to receive a 2.3 device back from them I have tried everything to help get this thing rooted hope there is a way to root it soon before all the devs leave for newer devices.
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I would say he is lying, but after spending some time in the irc its not looking so good. They even blocked the fail safe goldcard method for downgrading. I think this is bad news being one of the first to receive a 2.3 device back from them I have tried everything to help get this thing rooted hope there is a way to root it soon before all the devs leave for newer devices.
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Hi !
We gonna see about that!
But just to put some things straight:
- The goldcard to downgrade method also needed temp-root to change the main version in the misc-partition.
- At the moment we do not have a working temp-rooting method for gingerbread (besides gingerbreak but this has been patched in our version)
- We are not working on a new temp-root very urgent but this will change
Comes time, comes root.
Have fun - Guhl
Where there's a will, there's a way,
i'm sure one developer will manage to find an exploit, some way or another.
No way.... Is there no way not to accept the ota update when it comes to our phones
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Even those running a custom rom?
well if you think about it, if GB update from htc has been in development for the past 6 months (with specific configurations for different phones). and during this development phase they're stance was to still lock rooting and bootloaders. it would be near impossible to get a release June/July with a different development path based on the statement by the CEO.
either they will push back the OTA update, or roll out and meet the deadlines with their current path and with other phones already getting updates the past few months. I would say they're rolling it out with just configuration testing and QA on our phones
Why not just do this...sell rooted devices and locked devices. Or just sell all devices rooted. Lets face it most people now with android phones have no clue what the os is capable of and buy it off of hype.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
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Even those running a custom rom?
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I dont think they can just ota overwrite the custom rom. When you have a custom rom you dont receive the other ota updates why would you receive this one.
It's true or not, but: No root - not buying HTC phone.
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Dont worry anout the OTA you dont have to install it. Just dont break your current device and get a replacement.... Or pay to fix the one you got.
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The following was posted about 30 minutes ago on the Moto forums by forum manager Mark:
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1,360. Jul 7, 2011 1:23 PM (in response to berzerker)
When is the next firmware update to gingerbread 2.3. Let's try to stay on topic, and have fun.
1. It's kind of a loaded question. "about to start" and "a while" mean different things to different people. No lie, it's difficult to manage everyone's expectations. I don't want to set the wrong expectations. Mis-interpretation just leads to frustration and further pessimism. I don't want to promise something that I don't have the control over delivery. I wouldn't expect any soak sign-up, at minimum, for another week. Soon as we get closer to soak I'll invite everyone.
2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it. This isn't specific to any product or carrier. Further details will be released as they are known.
Mark
Support Forums Manager
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45654?start=1350&tstart=0
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Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
CaelanT said:
Interesting that the unlocked bootloader seems to be separated from the GB update in the second post. Makes it look like the unlocked bootloader will not be coming till much later.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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2. As mentioned before we are working on a Unlockable Bootloader solution for release later this year where our carrier partners will allow it.
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And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
SoberGuy said:
And even then, only when the carriers allow it. Will AT&T ever allow something like that? I say hell no.
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AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
ClearFire said:
AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
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They do? Which ones? Last I checked, all sorts of phones have locked bootloaders. It's just that Moto's the only one who actually does more than simply lock it.
If the soak test sign ups started in a week, you could look at soak testing starting a week later, and if past updates are anything to go by, an update another week later if all went well. That puts the GB update at in the last week of July.
On the locked bootloader, a lot of people said they will not unlock until they get the official update enabling this, so although many of us are already locked, many people are probably getting screwed. Might push them to just unlock now.
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Except that all AT&T phones can already be unlocked with pudding, so it doesn't matter if they allow it or not.
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In a sense, yes. A question, and then my thoughts.
While the AT&T bootloader can be unlocked now, is it possible (not likely, just possible) from a technical standpoint, that Moto could release a GB update that would prevent pudding from working? Say GB is release next week. A month from now a guy buys an Atrix, pulls it out the box with GB. Could that GB update prevent him from unlocking the bootloader? I think it's possible this could happen.
Further, my thoughts are that there is concern for future Moto devices on AT&T. We have a reasonable solution now, for this phone. What about future Moto devices? I don't think AT&T would allow such an unlock.
ClearFire said:
AT&T sells android phones that already have unlocked bootloaders and I do not see them having a reason to deny the update.
With that said pudding will give you unlocked bootloader, once applied, FOREVER! so it will not matter at this point if they allow it or not
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Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
SoberGuy said:
Which phones on AT&T come with an unlocked bootloader? Or do you just mean that they sell phones that have bootloaders that can be unlocked? Big difference, IMO. HTC doesn't care if you unlock their bootloader. Moto says you need carrier permission. What makes you think AT&T would ever grant such permission?
As for the rest, see my questions in my previous post. I'm not sure on the technical aspects of it, but I can see this making a difference in future devices, and possibly future Atrixes that are sold...
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
Sinful Animosity said:
Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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I agree, they are just trying to think that there are fools out there who will believe there BS reasons.
Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
munchy_cool said:
Rootzwiki just tweeted that Droid 3 is coming with a locked BL as well....WTF!
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No way... Wow. Those Droid 3 users are going to raise a **** storm
Sinful Animosity said:
Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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My theory on this is that carriers were willing to subsidize manufacturers' bootloader lockdowns that ensured the carrier bloatware would remain installed and stuff like tethering could be mitigated. Perhaps AT&T paid Motorola more than other manufacturers, so it's a matter of arguing over money.
Sinful Animosity said:
Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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Unlocked, or unlockable? If they are unlocked out of the box... I don't know. Maybe if presented with a choice (what Moto is doing), they would say no. But they wouldn't push for it up front. Maybe?? I don't know.
I still think they are just unlockable, and not unlocked out of the box. HTC allows for an unlock solution (my guess is so does Samsung). Not sure on LG. Moto decides to ask carrier permission.
I still see no reason why AT&T would approve such a thing. We haven't had a carrier-sold Nexus, and I'm not holding out hope we will. Look at how AT&T has crippled Android before: no sideloading, limiting apps, etc. And now you think they'll play nice with everyone?? LOL
I respect you, and I respect your opinion. I politely disagree. I don't think AT&T is the most advanced-user-friendly carrier (or dev-friendly, but we're not all devs here). Moto is certainly not the most dev friendly with the efuse and locked bootloaders. Combine the two and it's a damn mess. Shame, because I really like this lapdock feature that Moto wants to do more of.
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Inspire, Captivate, Infuse. Maybe a few more. These all allow for custom ROMs and kernels, and it's only Motorola trying to lock us down. HTC doesn't care, and the Inspire has tons of ROMs and kernels. Same with the Cappy. So why is it only Motorola if it's the carrier who wants it locked?
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No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
NoNameAtAll said:
No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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because Motorola encrypts them with signed keys ...
NoNameAtAll said:
No, those have LOCKED bootloaders. They're just easy to get past. Moto's aren't.
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Correct. Wife has Inspire and it's locked.
Have to create gold card to unlock it.
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munchy_cool said:
To hell with Motorola is all I can say. How can you start a project with no planned end dates. this is utter BS.
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Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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thebeardedchild said:
Either way, WE already have an unlocked bootloader. So as far as I'm concerned I'll never get the GB update because I'll be too busy ditching Motorola altogether. The only moto left on this phone is the name under the earpiece..
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yeah man, same here just waiting for the custom ROM's to come.
I have been looking for an answer on the question whether the Developer edition of the HTC ONE. Some sources said it is some said it is not S-off. So I decided to do some investigation myself. Contacted HTCDev, and got this as a response:
The second question it is answering whether I would be able to flash a T-Mobile radio on the phone...
I thought this might be useful info for all.
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I have been looking for an answer on the question whether the Developer edition of the HTC ONE. Some sources said it is some said it is not S-off. So I decided to do some investigation myself. Contacted HTCDev, and got this as a response:
Dear Balint Pihes,
Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off. Regarding your second question, at this time we do not have this information yet and the developers are working to provide you with the best service, as so, I will recommend you to stay tuned and check the following webpage, at http://www.htcdev.com/
I am sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused.
The second question it is answering whether I would be able to flash a T-Mobile radio on the phone...
I thought this might be useful info for all.
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thanks!
Some woman at HTC tweeted last month that the Developer One would not have S-OFF. We will see.
Htcdev twitter said the device is not soff.
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Htcdev twitter said the device is not soff.
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No one will really know until Thursday or Friday
Asked the question again, same site, same question, different answer...guess we will only know next week.
Thank you for your interest in the new HTC One. We can confirm that the device is SIM unlocked and Bootloader unlocked. However, we cannot confirm if the device will have S-Off, as we do not have any detailed information about the device yet. Please keep an eye on HTC.com for updates and announcements about this device. You can also check back with us periodically to see if we have any additional information for you. We are just an email away for more support. In the meantime, I hope you have a great day, Balint!
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this kind of thing makes me wonder what it's like working at a place like HTC. are they really as disjointed as they appear to be?
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this kind of thing makes me wonder what it's like working at a place like HTC. are they really as disjointed as they appear to be?
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Most big companies are.
If HTC makes Dev edition S-OFF, they will wipe all sins they have done over last 2 years in my eyes
I tweeted htc dev and they said no -off.
https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/321021128325869568
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Just got a follow up email from a supervisor, he says the employee was wrong, the device does not have s-off. Apparently he had the developer edition in his hands, when he wrote that.
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It's such bull that they market it as "dev" and leave s-on.
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It's such bull that they market it as "dev" and leave s-on.
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I couldn't agree with you more..
so what is the point of purchasing the "developer edition?" other than it being a 64GB device? this is totally effed...
You also get unbranded firmware and update quicker.
It is not designed for developing roms, it is designed for developing programs. Rooting and installing custom roms invalidates the warranty on any HTC one, including the dev edition.
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What is S-off?
stevedebi said:
It is not designed for developing roms, it is designed for developing programs. Rooting and installing custom roms invalidates the warranty on any HTC one, including the dev edition.
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Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!
berrywr said:
Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!
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It is not required to flash custom roms. It is required to change certain items in the phone such as the country code. It is turned on by default until someone figures out how to hack the phone.
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berrywr said:
Before I get my head ripped off asking what appears to be a silly question, what is S-off? I gather by your reactions the HTC One I bought on pre-order at the HTC.com website has a security feature that by default is turned on and not off? So what there is another layer of security that must be unlocked to flash custom ROMs? I'm putting my wife into this device given her line of work...medical migrating from Windows Phone 7.8 so forgive me if I am not entirely up to speed on all things Android. Thanks!
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Most people don't need S-Off, it allows you to brick your device, and more importantly to relock it so that HTC don't know you've put custom ROMs on it for warranty purposes.
On the One X it would have been useful to flash updated firmware so that JB ROMs could be installed on carrier phones before the carriers bothered to get round to validating the update, but that's a fairly rare scenario.
It also allows you to flash different radios, but again, it's pretty rare that's required.
So yeah, other than those rare scenarios and AT&T phones who prevent the phone from being bootloader unlocked via htcdev.com, it's not needed if you just want to flash custom ROMs or lie to HTC.
I don't think flashing radios is a rare scenario... I've done it a dozen times on my One XL.
I want s-off to see if we can flash a T-Mobile radio on dev edition to enable all T-Mobile bands.
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When the HTC one m10 hits for Verizon, it better get root!!! And unlock! I swear Verizon is really pissing me off the way they're locking their devices down. Pretty excited about this phone and I just don't want to be disappointed like I was with pretty much every other Verizon phone
I don't see Verizon knocking off their ridiculous lock-downs anytime soon. That being said, Samsung and Motorola on Verizon have tended to be the worst combination for rooting and unlocking. HTC Flagships have generally gotten a fairly good method within six months of release. Not ideal, but there.
blkhrt13 said:
When the HTC one m10 hits for Verizon, it better get root!!! And unlock! I swear Verizon is really pissing me off the way they're locking their devices down. Pretty excited about this phone and I just don't want to be disappointed like I was with pretty much every other Verizon phone
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We have a pretty good community based group who did s-off for the m9. We are preparing for the 10 as well.
Want to buy one.~
I up for an upgrade so I'll probably do the ship it to someone else with a Java card
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dottat said:
We have a pretty good community based group who did s-off for the m9. We are preparing for the 10 as well.
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Is it confirmed that it can be unlocked with the java cards or clip? There was an ominous warning by jcase about java cards and newer HTC devices but I never saw any other details.
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Is it confirmed that it can be unlocked with the java cards or clip? There was an ominous warning by jcase about java cards and newer HTC devices but I never saw any other details.
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Cannot confirm or deny yet ?
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I guess I just figured it would work. Either way, I believe Ill be waiting & see
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With the way all snapdragon 820 devices have been so far, I wonder if HTC will use Qualcomm secure boot as well to block S-OFF. Qualcomm is really proud of their secure boot. I have T-Mobile and even the S7 and S7 Edge have encrypted bootloaders with Qualcomm secure boot as well as dm-verity. The G5 acts like it is unlocked but it uses dm-verity as well as Qualcomm secure boot also. T-Mobile traditionally has always been alright with rooting but unless HTC changes things up, it's going to be a rough year of phones. I should start saving for the Nexus...
Is it possible that the Verizon HTC 10 could get root before S-off, or will S-off be necessary in order to gain root access?
Thanks.
According to jcase's thread they have ordered a few 10, so s-off is likely. But I don't think it's ever been done without root.
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Is root and unlocked boot loader different. I mean I know they are but with my m8 I was able to install venom rom without being soff. Will I be able to do this on Verizon m10.
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To my knowledge S-OFF is releated to downgrading/upgrading using unsigned RUUs.
HydroMoon said:
To my knowledge S-OFF is releated to downgrading/upgrading using unsigned RUUs.
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For Verizon, it's a little more. Verizon doesn't allow you to unlock the bootloader via hrcdev.com. So the only way to unlock the bootloader on the m9 was to be s-off. That's where it gets tricky. In order to s-off with Sunshine, you had to be rooted, but the only way to root was to unlock the bootloader. Being that you could not unlock the bootloader on the Verizon m9, you couldn't root and therefore couldn't s-off. Quite a vicious circle.
jcase and the Sunshine team have recently been able to make sunshine work for the Verizon m9. I'm not sure if they were able to achieve a temp root of sorts to allow s-off, but either way, it works now. This allowed you to unlock the bootloader and then root the device. Hopefully, they will be able to do the same thing for the Verizon HTC 10. I know many people had to resort to a java card and/or xtc2 clip to achieve s-off on Verizon. Many who had a card or clip helped out by offering their time to s-off other members phones. Either by mailing the phone or meeting up with them.
@jsaxon2 Thanks for clarification.
Thanks to our devs who put time on those things to make us free from carriers ****, people with contracted phones really have hardtimes waiting for exploit to be founded and getting software ready for doing great things ie unlocking/rooting etc...
On the other hand the international variant almost always got loves from everywhere but at the end it depend on the community/manufacture/developers who want to produce a dev friendly phone/experienced devs who want to make great roms/mods/and all the push we the community give to our devs.
Is there a chance to use non Verizon ( unlocked ) HTC 10 on big red?
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Is there a chance to use non Verizon ( unlocked ) HTC 10 on big red?
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I'll let you know as soon as mine arrives.
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Just ordered my today from Verizon. I guess they only offered grey because you wouldn't be able to see there logo if it was black.
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Is there a chance to use non Verizon ( unlocked ) HTC 10 on big red?
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The ones who have their devices now are testing it for the rest of us that are waiting. Its not looking good at this point!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/unlocked-htc-10-verizon-t3357874/page22
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For Verizon, it's a little more. Verizon doesn't allow you to unlock the bootloader via hrcdev.com. So the only way to unlock the bootloader on the m9 was to be s-off. That's where it gets tricky. In order to s-off with Sunshine, you had to be rooted, but the only way to root was to unlock the bootloader. Being that you could not unlock the bootloader on the Verizon m9, you couldn't root and therefore couldn't s-off. Quite a vicious circle.
jcase and the Sunshine team have recently been able to make sunshine work for the Verizon m9. I'm not sure if they were able to achieve a temp root of sorts to allow s-off, but either way, it works now. This allowed you to unlock the bootloader and then root the device. Hopefully, they will be able to do the same thing for the Verizon HTC 10. I know many people had to resort to a java card and/or xtc2 clip to achieve s-off on Verizon. Many who had a card or clip helped out by offering their time to s-off other members phones. Either by mailing the phone or meeting up with them.
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Yep we use temproot to get root then s-off it like any other phone. We have a few projects for other variants and models underway now that we have non verizon m10 done.
XTC2Clip/javacards will not work on m10, at least not until the 2nd gen javacard keys are stolen from HTC. We may end up offering mail in for Verizon m10 (we dont use the stolen HTC keys/javacards so our methods will still work).