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Former Evo owners?

I have been debating with myself on whether or not to get a galaxy tab. I was wanting to hear from anybody who was a former Evo owner. Does the tab seem a lot bulkier than the Evo? Would you go back to the Evo if you had a chance? I have seen some belt clips for the tab. Does it feel comfortable or does it feel like you have a book glued to your hip.

Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.

Thanks for the info. If I get a tab it will be to completely replace the Evo as I would be selling(i.e. "giving") it to my brother in law and he would use it on our plan instead of his intercept and I would be using the tab exclusively. He and I both have been disappointed with the Intercept that he has and he would like to get an Evo. The Evo I have allowed me to give up my pmp and just use the Evo. The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.

evo to tab adjustments
Just recently switched from an Evo to an AT&T GT. It definitely takes some getting used to if the Tab becomes your primary phone. I use a headset, but now I realize just how much I fiddle with my phone while I do other things.
As for the additional bulk--I pretend I'm carrying around a day organizer, and it feels less weird, other than the fact that I'm carrying my day organizer every time I get up to go somewhere.

I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?

Lindarose84 said:
Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.
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That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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ElAguila said:
I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?
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From what I read, you are correct. I only flashed the kernel and z4 root, 1.2 goodness.
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nzaw4 said:
That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.

ElAguila said:
The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.
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Just an FYI, but personally I would not give up my Kindle because of my Tab.
IMO, the Tab is great for occasional reading, but the Kindle's e-ink is vastly superior for extended reading.
Your mileage may vary of course, but I'd wait until you've had both in your hands for a few weeks before deciding to drop the Kindle.
Regards,
Dave

Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.

Lindarose84 said:
I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.
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Yea csip is not working for out going, but with data tracking, 3g watchdog is great.
I also am running myn too. Its an awesome rom. Finally got the evo to run 20 hours moderate usage onbstock battery with sbc... So kinda sucks to leave my baby
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atoy74 said:
Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.
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But xoom is priced at 700.... Who knows what type of data plan also
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Anyone with the successful order with the 25% off coupon plan to cancel the order?

For some reason, after reading the many negative posts about the Xoom, I now want to cancel my order that I got with the 25% off coupon.
Things that is the deal breaker for me is the following:
1. Cannot play 720p .mkv videos
2. Mediocre screen/display
I went to Best Buy and saw the Samsung Galaxy Tab and just love the brightness of the SGT. It is so vibrant.
Also, reading the posts about the SGT indicates that it can handle 720p and even 1080p flawlessly. It can also be replaced with faster ROM to make the SGT even better.
So I am thinking of cancelling the Xoom order from Motorola with the 25% off coupon and just get the Galaxy Tab instead.
Anyone has the same feeling?

....or I can just keep the order and not open it once I have it and sell it for $750 on Craigslist. This would cause a little bit of a hassle though.

Heck no! I'm keeping mine!
If you don't want to keep it, you should sell it on Ebay or something. You can make a profit if you sell it for under $800. [ninja'd]

Even if they don't want it, why would they ever cancel their order? Even if they have no intent to use the device, they basically have $150 free on the way to their house when they sell it. Even if they sell it for $700 just to get it off their hands they just made $100. lol.
And good god why would you ever buy the Galaxy Tab, with several new Honeycomb tablets coming in the following weeks.

Is this a joke? It has to be. A galaxy tab over the xoom? Lol
It will play mkv files once the software gets fixed I'm sure.
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People with issues are the ones who speak the loudest. I'm not worried at all about isolated incidents. As a launch G1, N1, and now Xoom (but not yet received) user it comes with the territory.
If I were worried about a lack of apps, bugs, or flash at launch etc. I would have trashed my G1 right away. I remember the android 1.0 days when I had to wait a month before the market was live. Even then, there was only a few dozen apps available.
I'm treating 3.0 the same way as 1.0. Full of potential. Just have to have faith after an update or two it will be amazing.

Xoom to Galaxy Tab...WUT?

The Galaxy Tab is good but its not in the same league as the Xoom. The screen isn't that bad, its bright and extremely responsive. Samsung will probably always have the lead in screen technology but it isn't as bad as you think. Once the Xoom gets an update it will not only handle 720p video but 1080p as well. Getting the 25% off this thing makes it a no brainer bye.
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Typing this from my week old Samsung Galaxy Tab. I already have a large tablet device (ipad) but needed something portable, so the Xoom is out of the question especially after I picked it up and realized it's pretty much a landscape device.
The Galaxy tab is a great device and trust me 7 inches is the sweet spot if you actually want it to leave the house on a regular basis (other than vacations). Personally, if you care about having the latest OS, I would wait for the HTC flyer. If you don't care about portability, I would just wait to see reviews and releases on the other Honeycomb devices.
If you don't care about the latest OS, I would highly recommend the Samsung Galaxy Tab. I haven't touched my ipad in a week.
Just sell the Xoom on Craigslist and make a nice little profit.
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There is no way I would even touch a galaxy tab after using a Xoom. 2.2 was not meant for tablets and the processor is so slow.. even after I developed a kernel to overclock it.
If you would like a cheap sprint version.. mine is on ebay for $350 right now..

Why I don't care if the tab sees honeycomb.

Look at the xoom right now. It's got a ton of issues that are going to take a while to get sorted out. I don't want to play that game. I love my tab with mobile data, because I spend a majority of my time in places that do not have wifi. But I hate paying for another data plan on top of my captivate. I've experimented using the tab as my main device and it works out for me perfect. I always use a headset or it's synced to my car over bluetooth. That's normal for me. I'm always on my tab so I'm always carrying it around anyways. So it's like a giant captivate to me and I'm perfectly content with that. Long battery, lots of screen and no extra data plan to pay for. Adios tmobile tab, hello att tab. It's such a shame that this may be the last device that can be made to just accept my att sim and work as my phone. I'm never getting rid of my tab!
/longrant
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I don't really care if the tab gets an official release of honeycomb. If an unofficial release is developed and proves to be fully functional then I will definitely upgrade so I can get any honeycomb only apps. Other than that, I don't really care.
My galaxy is my main device. I take it with me everywhere. I can't imagine lugging around anything bigger without needing a bag. If I need bigger, I'll take my tablet pc with me.
I'm just hoping that Samsung and other companies continue to release tablets around the same size as the galaxy so I have something to upgrade to later on. I have to use my iphone once in a while and the thing feels so tiny! I feel like that giant using the cellphone in that one tv commercial.

Should I do it?

Alright, I'm deeply considering buying a Xoom. On contract, with the normal dock, a keyboard, and a case. It'd end up being about $800 in the end, so it's kinda be a big pill to swallow. My unibody MacBook Pro costed only $400 more! Anyways, I see the use on a tablet and how convienient it would be, I'm just not sure if I should do this. What do you guys think? What are your gripes about it, and what do you like about it? Any thing I should be aware of? And do you think I should get the 3G/future 4G version or just the WiFi version? :/ And does the hardware acceleration actually make things (such as browsing) as smooth as iOS devices? I still miss my iPhone's great scrolling... I've used Xooms in stores, and the browser didn't seem amazingly smooth (better than my phone, but not amazingly better) I heard that graphics acceleration is turned off by default though. Is that true? Because that would explain my not-perfectly-smooth experience. Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated Random thought: from what I've seen, the Xoom forum here is filled with mostly friendly people, it's pretty cool.
I would be using this as a laptop replacement btw. (Minus PowerPoint presentations, Photoshop, and such)
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I say go with the xoom. You will be happier in the end. It is much more suited as a laptop replacement than ipad. I would suggest buying off contract if you can. I don't know how you connect but wifi only xoom is 599. I use this model and tether 4g with my phone if needed. I also replaced a netbook with this. It was wifi only so I don't miss much. I rooted mine and OC'd and it runs very smooth. Homescreen page scrolling is not as "snappy" as ipad but I think that will come. Remember honeycomb is new and will only be getting better. And you can always find good support from the members here at XDA. Also, search online for your accessories. I found my dock and keyboard on Amazon for about 35% less than bestbuy. Hope this helps.
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My advice having only used my Xoom for a couple of days is not to bother if you are going to spend that amount on peripherals for it.
I love my Xoom and bought it to replace my Netbook. It's quick, snappy, and oozes potential even though some of the apps are not yet up to the standard they need to be and Honeycomb is still a young platform. I'd recommend the Xoom definitely. However not at the price you are looking at when bundled with addons. Buy it as is or don't is my advice.

Get the WiFi only and tether.
I'd get one with the 3G/LTE if data rates weren't a minimum of $20/mo... when I probably won't use the data allotment. For the same price without a $1000+ two year commitment, I can just tether to my phone when I'm in places where I don't have WiFi... which is not very often.
ETA: I have a Nook Color right now, going to get a Xoom (WiFi only) probably next week or the week after, as soon as I have the coin. I just want some of the capability that the Xoom has over the Nook!

Wifi version only. If you think 800 is bad then don't forget to factor in 2 years of monthly data fees. It really won't restrict you. I went from a 3g I pad to xoom/tether combo and I haven't noticed any difference save for a lower monthly bill.

I agree, get the wifi and tether. This is what I do with my Captivate. I tether thru the Captivate's wifi.

If I hadn't gotten the 25% off deal when it was released I would have waited for the WiFi only version. Tethering with my jailbroken iPhone works great! I am actually tempted to try the Asus Transformer WiFi only as well. But the Xoom is definitely nice.

[Q] Xoom advice

Hello,
I am after a bit of advice. At the moment I have the original iPad which ought in Dubai for £160 brand new. However iv found that I don't really use the tablet a lot. After a bit of thought I realized that it is because it's wifi and only and unfortunately there isn't a wifi connection everywhere is the world. If the tablet was a wifi one then I believe it would get a great deal of use, and lower my phone bills in the process as I'm using around 2gb+ of internet use on my mobile from Internet browsing which incurs additional charges.
So question is should I buy the xoom?
I looked at the lg optimus tab as I do have the optimus 3d , but after a little reading I discovered that it doesnt have a 3d screen so that's out. There is obviously the galaxy tabs coming out, however I'm not a fan of samsung in the slightest , had the original galaxy s for a little while and was really not impressed.
The tablet will have to be on contract as I'm not really able to dish out 400/500 for a sim free one.
I do like the look of the xoom and despite it still rocking 3.0 in the uk the 3.1 update should be around the corner , and I will be rooting the tablet anyway.
If anyone has any better suggestions for a android tab on paym contract except the xoom please surgest away. The only other one I could find was the htc , and despite owning a ton of there phones the lack of 3.0 is a seriously downfall.
If anyone could offer a bit of advice about owning the xoom as well as the app choice that would be great.
Thanks for your time ,
Jordan

jordanprudent said:
Hello,
I am after a bit of advice. At the moment I have the original iPad which ought in Dubai for £160 brand new. However iv found that I don't really use the tablet a lot. After a bit of thought I realized that it is because it's wifi and only and unfortunately there isn't a wifi connection everywhere is the world. If the tablet was a wifi one then I believe it would get a great deal of use, and lower my phone bills in the process as I'm using around 2gb+ of internet use on my mobile from Internet browsing which incurs additional charges.
So question is should I buy the xoom?
I looked at the lg optimus tab as I do have the optimus 3d , but after a little reading I discovered that it doesnt have a 3d screen so that's out. There is obviously the galaxy tabs coming out, however I'm not a fan of samsung in the slightest , had the original galaxy s for a little while and was really not impressed.
The tablet will have to be on contract as I'm not really able to dish out 400/500 for a sim free one.
I do like the look of the xoom and despite it still rocking 3.0 in the uk the 3.1 update should be around the corner , and I will be rooting the tablet anyway.
If anyone has any better suggestions for a android tab on paym contract except the xoom please surgest away. The only other one I could find was the htc , and despite owning a ton of there phones the lack of 3.0 is a seriously downfall.
If anyone could offer a bit of advice about owning the xoom as well as the app choice that would be great.
Thanks for your time ,
Jordan
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Jordan, it will be best for you to hear from a Xoom owner with your same potential configuration as I have the US wifi only Xoom, but I wanted to answer you to get it rolling. As piece of hardware, the xoom is superior to anything currently available. That is my opinion but I believe that I speak for many others. The Xoom is heavier but stronger than many other tabs. Someone said it felt like something made for the military. You might not like that but I love its toughness. Also, it seems to be really hard to actually "brick" by rooting, poor installations, etc. There are some things you really shouldn't do, but even then, people have brought their Xooms back from the edge of disaster, so it's pretty well made. Google support for the US wifi model is excellent. Motorola seems to be getting a black eye in Europe for taking a long time to update, but you are aware of these issues according to your post. As you know, apps will or will not be available depending on your location. I am 97.5% satisfied that I have every possible app that I want or need to make my Xoom a superb tablet computer. I have good 4G coverage in my city so having an unlimited 4G personal hotspot works wonders with my wifi Xoom. It's a bit too large to use as a phone, and I don't always have my Bluetooth headset on, but I actually could get rid of my (non-android) phone and use the Xoom with Line2 for $9.99/mo. I use Splashtop HD to access and control my PC desktop from anywhere. I have sdcard, thumb drive, 750GB HDD and cloud storage on top of 32GB internal storage with the Xoom. As you can guess, I really love it.
Your experience may be different, though since you will root, you will have all of the same capabilities plus the 3G. If you have an android phone you can tether your Xoom and provide the connectivity that way. Maybe you don't need a 3G Xoom, just a good phone data plan.

Thanks very much for the advice and the notes about your xoom. It's fine to read reviews on products but they don't really tell the full story. So the facts you have stated and what you are able to do with your xoom is very promising .
I would consider the 3G wifi hot spot , I have done that on my iPad however if your doing it without a charger then the battery of your phone really doesn't last very long. (remember that iv got the lg 3d which isn't really a beacon of perfection when it comes to battery life) also due to the stupid uk networks vodafone do not offer a unlimited data pplan and tethering stacks up data usage badly.
To be honest I m pretty excited for it and may very well make a trip and get one come Friday.
As you say the specs are brilliant which helps the longevity and it's not difficult to keep it updated with later versions of android through root or motorola themselves .
Thanks very much for the reply ,
Jordan

i too are interested in the zoom 3G, but i also have other choices which includes the galaxy tab 8.9 or the LG 3G tab. i do prefer the smaller tab of the three which are the samsung or the LG 3D, anyone can comment on these.
thanks