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So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
The N1 is amazing, especially coming from something like the mytouch3G. The Nexus one (tmobile version) can be bought as a Dev phone currently from Google at the normal price ($529) plus a $25 developer activation fee. You certainly wont regret the N1 if you decide to get it.
Another good Tmobile phone is the Vibrant, in general it meets if not slightly beat the nexus one in many departments even without froyo's JIT. And you can get a Vibrant for a little less then the $550 you would pay for a Nexus One.
Of course both can be found on Craigslist or ebay at a huge degree of different prices also.
Nothing I can think of that would cause any major price drops in the near future. ALSO there is the new HSPA+ flagphone that will be out soon that I'm certainly interested in.
My advise is to look at the tmobile android lineup (curent and future) and see if you know of anyone or go to the store and see if you can test them and if you like them more then the mytouch.
-Cheers
Best phone ever best android experience as well
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To put this as objectively as possible coming from a n1 user. The nexus one is a nice phone if you're very into customizing, from my knowledge of android devices, it's the top for modding. However it all depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. For example if you're going to be playing games that require multitouch (nova) then it does have an issue with its multitouch. To some that's not an issue cause they don't game to others it is. The other major issue that I see at least for me is the small internal storage space. 512mb, really google? That's just two of the issues that I would really liked to be different, they're the only real issues for me. An hdmi out would be nice, but I wouldn't use it that much i'm assuming so it's not a deal breaker for me, same thing with a front facing camera.
But then you have things like the trackball that's nice for notifications, the screen size is just right, it's powerful and everything AND it gets all the updates first! It has a flash, the camera is pretty good actually (even though I hate cell cameras).
The only device on T-mobile that I can see as being another option would be the samsung vibrant, especially if you plan to play games on it, since it doesn't have the multitouch issue, and the gpu is really powerful. Problems with the device for me is the lack of a flash for the vibrant.
As for is it worth it? Well that depends on if spending the money is worth it and if you're going to get another phone anyways, yes the n1 is a great phone if you can overlook the multitouch issue and the small internal storage space.
EDIT: one more issue that I have with the n1 is that the audio is kinda bad, the speakers are quiet, and the headphone's sound is also quiet. Just wish the sound could be up'ed more so that it's a reasonable sound quality. Just seems more quieter than other android phones that I've had.
htc420 said:
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
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Either get the N1 right now, it's still an amazing phone, and I see NOTHING in market right now that I'd trade it for.
Or, wait several months for next gen to come out, something with an even stronger CPU, maybe even gingerbread around Christmas. And NO, it won't be called a Nexus Two.
Me, I'm wating for that second option. No smartphone/PDA on the market today appeals to me as an upgrade.
unfortunately price wont drop for a while, it's now a dev phone. but once you have it in ur hand, im sure ud feel the price was worth it. you can always sell the N1 too with if you dont like it. and if you're geek enough, have a flashing addiction of nightlies, constantly making trying out something new with ur phone, this should be it.
I was in your same position. I got the My Touch 3g 1.2. And it was awesome, but I read somewhere that it was like a mini Nexus One and that made me more curious. I sold the phone soon after, and found a Nexus One, and it really is an incredible device, with an operating system built and tested specially or it (FRF91). The one downside is that you have to worry about the Nexus One a bit more. When my ipod is dead, the MT3G was ok for the gym, but not the N1. It has actually forced me to take better care of my phone, and other devices in general. It was a good decision, for sure.
Most of the upcoming Android phones seem to be rebuilt versions of this phone, and the N1 is still expected to get most updates, app add-ons and functions first. All dual core processor phones are still a long way away and are only rumored devices. If you are extremely patient you could wait it out, or just buy the N1 and sell it in a year.
One item on the list "to consider" might be - Nexus will be the 1st existing device to get Gingerbread update, probably by a considerable time margin.
If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
dooo it! my touch3g is old and slow!!!!
Buying a Nexus One for $554 plus tax without a data plan would be absolute and downright insanity.
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
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galaxys said:
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
no there is nothing limited by not having a data plan. and if you are near wifi all day then its will be just the same. but when you're driving in your car and want to use navigation, or look something up on google maps, wifi isnt gonna help you. that's what they're saying.
and yes you can add a data plan anytime without extending your contract on most any carrier nowadays.
LOL
i buy my N1 without data plan xD
i dont regret since i have wifi around in my work and home and im outside wifi range like 4 hours at day in bus or subway.
and im fine perhaps its like kill a fly wit a cannon
i will get in 10 days my 3g plan (too expensive here >_< )
but yea after months with wifi, all its ok but with 3g AMAZING phone
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
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I guess anywhere I have wifi, I have computer access, so I don't really touch my phone during those times.
There's no restrictions from the OS itself regarding data.
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Because T-Mobile is the ****! I cautiously walked away from ATT and Verizon a few years ago and was amazed at what I found in Tmobile, I will never go back
Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Nothing...many other carriers check your imei number but tmobile rarely does anything with it. Try it, the worse that could happen is they figure out you have a smartphone and bump you back up to what you are currently paying. Theoretically there is no difference between the dumbphone and the smartphone variant (im pretty sure).
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I had an NS for a week, didnt like it, and returned it to Best Buy.
They were supposed to reverse the two year contract.
I got my phone bill and it still had the $18 + $1.26 tax upgrade charge.
I called TMO to get that taken off and apparently they hadnt reversed
my contract. So the rep fixed that and took the upgrade charge off.
But the reason for this thread is that she said I didnt have 4G internet.
I got the unlimited Android plan when I got with my pre-buy G1.
I had 3000 minutes in Florida, unlimited web and 400 texts.
A few months later I was told I was eligible for the unlimited loyalty plan
which changed my 3000 Florida only minutes to unlimited in the US.
So after the call yesterday I started looking at the TMO website and
I dont see anywhere where they differentiate web packages between
3G and 4G.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to do video chat because I dont have 4G.
Is this true ?
Anyone know ?
The MT4G is noticeably faster than the N1, NS, and G2.
It made me wonder if what she said is just a line they are told to tell people.
Anyone know if thats possible to block 4G to customers ?
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I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
(mods this is about the MT4G)
going_home said:
I posted this over on Android Central hoping a TMO rep would chime in
but none did :
I am in the Tampa area that has the HSPA+/4G.
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As far as I know if your area has 4g and your phone is capable... you should get 4g. When I worked there about three years ago they couldnt block 3g. They can throttle your data usage though.
Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
Sheldonjace said:
Great question, however there is no need to change web packages at this time if you are able to keep your grandfathered services. The term "4G Web" is just marketing and does nothing/provides no extra benefit to have the newer features.
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Ok thats what I was trying to find out.
I figured they are trained to try and get rid of the older cheaper plans.
The rep said I wouldnt be able to use the video chat if I didnt upgrade my plan to 4G.
My current plan is $24.99 for unlimited data and 400 texts.
She said that plan was not 4g and I would need the 4G package at $30.00 plus
$5.99 for unlimited texts = $35.99. So $11.00 plus tax more.
How can I make sure I already have the HSPA+/4G ?
The phone is much faster than the Nexus One, G2, or Nexus S.
There is no difference between the packages though accept that the regular web wont work unless customer service does something on their end to make it work. I am a T-Mobile RSA and when the MyTouch 4G first launched they were not requiring us in the system to change the web on upgrades so most of the time we didn't then 24 hours later customers where calling us saying their web wasn't working and we figured out it was because we weren't changing the plans. But I have seen those plans like the 24.99 plans work if a customers call and complain correctly lol. But there is no speed difference between the plans it is all the same data speed its a matter of how the phone handles it.
I work alongside Tmobile [read: RadioShack employee], and I'm also in the Tampa Bay area [Burg side]. I can tell you for a fact your internet doesn't have to be a 4g plan. But that being said, in Tmo's systems all the new customers that sign up for web are being placed on a "4g" data plan, as opposed to just "data" as it in the past was called. This may be ramping up to a No FFC switch to be flipped, but at the moment, no complaints from older customers just SIM swapping (from a previous Android). PM for irl contact if you'd like, I can hook you up with my corporate reps info, [or atleast be a middle man between you].
Edit in further reading of the T-Mo rep's post above, we too have had a few cases of that, but only from people coming from what used to be deemed 'phone first' web. Anyone coming from G1, Cliq [xt], MyTouch [3g/Slide], etc haven't had any problem. [I myself included.] Maybe there is a larger issue here depending on what T-Mo serverside [or phone interpretation side] are reading for the plan(s) [as you mentioned.]
The new web features are called 4g, but they replace the old ones. In other words, there is no separate 4g and 3g data features. Some reps are just stupid. As long as you have a web feature that works for your phone, you can get whatever speeds are available in your area.
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When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
deviusdragger said:
When doing any upgrades in a store, the web feature has to be taken off and the required web feature has to be added which is $30. Unless you go with one of the promo plans out right now, which have the data at $20.
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Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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stoneyjonez said:
Yeah and the only way around it is to buy the phone full price.
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or you can always call retention =O
Nail on the head
cnflct said:
or you can always call retention =O
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i would so trade you my myt4g for your NS all because of its GPU
The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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The GPU war again huh? last we need is kids fighting over GPU now in mobile world lol seen that enough in PC world. BTW don't be fooled SGX540 just wins over Adreno 205 by very small margin as Galaxy S in this arena graphic comes superior in threading and displaying due to Super AMOLED. But if you check carefully due to superior hardware spec (higher ram, 2nd gen proc) it renders faster and smoother than NS. Trust me I know before I bought MT4G I did extended research on every device. DHD is the only one that came close but head to head with MT4G it didn't win in benchmark and only reason I picked it due to bigger screen which I miss since HD2.
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Yeah i did my research as well. watch a sh*t load of review, etc I just like the form factor of the nexus s and its one strip of glass so i wouldnt have to worry about light leaking, hard buttons creaking, and with the SAMOLED i dont care much for but i like the extra 2" the GPU isnt too much better but it does run PSX alittle better. also if this phone is dropped it would probably dent lol cause the metal and its supper heavy (i actually like the heavy part) i just wish HTC didnt make it glass, hard buttons, then another plastic part. it just makes it complecated and problems xD i have OCD about phone stuff lol. when i get this phone replaced and get one with a good screen ill be happy then (if i dont get damn creaky buttons) idk if i would wanna go with samsung anyway.. after the behold 2 they fvcked over everyone with that phone.. but google has the NS backed up thats why i thought about it.
I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
Looking at possibly coming over to tmobile to use the 4g network, since I tether with the mytouch 4g.
All plans unlimited text and data
Considering the "no contract plans"
500min @ $59.99 plus tax
1000min @$69.99 plus tax
OR
Sign a two year contract to get another phone, possibly a mytouch 4g for $99 costco or the up coming sale.
1500min @ $79.99 POSSIBLE discount of 15% =$68 plus tax
Ohio state discount for employees or whatever.....Over the phone with a customer rep I was told I just had to provide a valid email. If I give them my osu email this should work although I'm not an employee of the university. Would trade the new mytouch 4g for a nexus s and keep it as a back up. Or just wait for newer 4g phones to come out and purchase one of those.
Question pertains to being able to set up the OSU email on the account, would it work just by giving CS the email? Anyway to set up a discount on the "no contract plans" even more plan
MrHKM said:
I learned long ago about not buying from Samsung as they truly lack the oversight, hence why HTC excels in this field? they are only focused in dominating the mobile field which they have successfully done so and I can say all my device will be HTC based until something else comes along. But thats very hard when 9/10 device that do make in is HTC based lol so they must be doing something right.
Ya I wasn't happy with the display, creaking button and ffc problems with MT4G, I just found it very odd the number of reported was so high as it makes you wonder how it even got passed QC in first place, they must have monkeys lol checking it. My display turn out good along with the button but the FFC is off center as its tilted on the right as its 0.3mp cam I don't care much as I doubt I will ever use it.
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Yeah I can agree with you on that. HTC has been my number one device but after the mytouch side and now this... The G1 had better buttons than this. And didn't have light leaking through. Its sad the g1 having better build quality. And evey other phone coming out with a ffc has a 1.3 mp I know mp isn't the thing that counts but 0.3? Lol. I don't think monkeys would've even let it pass haha. Htc messed up the nexis one screen as well.. I think they do perfect on every phone then mess up the stupidest thing that could've been avoided. I don't get it. Its like they don't test their own devices. If it wasn't for the hard buttons and messed ffc and crap screen lol. Those are easy fixes for them to see I'm sure.
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Thats what I did, bought mine on Craigslist after I returned the NS to Best Buy.
I just dont trust what the rep told me on the phone and I'd like to know
for sure if I actually have HSPA+ or not.
You Have A MyTouch 4G ? You Have 4G !
Ok guys, went to my local TMO company store today in search of an answer
to the question "do I have to upgrade my plan in order to get
HSPA+/4G" .
The answer is no, the original prebuy G1 Android plan gets 4G and there
is no way for TMO to block 4G since technically its 3.5something G anyways.
I went to settings/about phone/network while I was in the store and it said
HSDPA on the phone.
The rep in the store agreed that what the rep told me on the phone was bogus.
I've been around android since android first came out and plan on sticking with android for a long time. I currently own a rooted nexus one and I'm thinking about switching to a dell streak. I don't mind the big size of the phone for I'm the type that figures the bigger the better. Here's a few questions that I have. (I'm also aware that the streak only as of right now runs froyo 2.2)
1. Is it worth the switch from a nexus one to the streak?
2. Is the streak capable to handle a 3.0 honeycomb upgrade?
3. What a some major cons about the streak that you experienced user's feel are worth sharing?
4. Is the streak worth rooting? And why?
I'll google that and get back to you.
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I can't help you with #1 or #2 - I simply don't know the answers. (I've never used a Nexus One.)
Strictly considering it as a phone, it's a big hunk of glass and a little unwieldy to use. The ergonomics are clunky (try holding a PopTart up to your ear) and the proximity sensor on mine is hit or miss. (e.g. when I take the phone off of my ear to delete a voice mail, the screen often stays dark.)
Whatever issues I have with it as a phone are more than made up for everywhere else. The 5" screen is the perfect portable, pocketable tablet size. Beautiful screen, easy to be productive on in terms of email, reviewing documents, etc. It's replaced my Tab as my portable/couch-surfing tablet and my Garmin as an in-car GPS - I think it's as versatile a gadget as I've ever had.
As for rooting the Streak, I guess it depends on what you'd like to do with it. I rooted mine, but just to enable tethering.
Just asking a question, no meed to be MOD EDIT about it.
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I can't help you with #1 or #2 - I simply don't know the answers. (I've never used a Nexus One.)
Strictly considering it as a phone, it's a big hunk of glass and a little unwieldy to use. The ergonomics are clunky (try holding a PopTart up to your ear) and the proximity sensor on mine is hit or miss. (e.g. when I take the phone off of my ear to delete a voice mail, the screen often stays dark.)
Whatever issues I have with it as a phone are more than made up for everywhere else. The 5" screen is the perfect portable, pocketable tablet size. Beautiful screen, easy to be productive on in terms of email, reviewing documents, etc. It's replaced my Tab as my portable/couch-surfing tablet and my Garmin as an in-car GPS - I think it's as versatile a gadget as I've ever had.
As for rooting the Streak, I guess it depends on what you'd like to do with it. I rooted mine, but just to enable tethering.
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Just one of the few answers that will be posted on here that I was looking for. Thank you.
Poughkeepsie125 said:
I can't help you with #1 or #2 - I simply don't know the answers. (I've never used a Nexus One.)
Strictly considering it as a phone, it's a big hunk of glass and a little unwieldy to use. The ergonomics are clunky (try holding a PopTart up to your ear) and the proximity sensor on mine is hit or miss. (e.g. when I take the phone off of my ear to delete a voice mail, the screen often stays dark.)
Whatever issues I have with it as a phone are more than made up for everywhere else. The 5" screen is the perfect portable, pocketable tablet size. Beautiful screen, easy to be productive on in terms of email, reviewing documents, etc. It's replaced my Tab as my portable/couch-surfing tablet and my Garmin as an in-car GPS - I think it's as versatile a gadget as I've ever had.
As for rooting the Streak, I guess it depends on what you'd like to do with it. I rooted mine, but just to enable tethering.
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Are you with at&t? If so what bandwidth limit does at&t cap you at? I know T-Mobile caps you at 5GB.
Tbh. I agreed with Marvin's post. Google is your friend. Indeed, the search function is an even better friend.
Edit: once you've used the streak, you'll wonder how you ever managed without it.
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Are you with at&t? If so what bandwidth limit does at&t cap you at? I know T-Mobile caps you at 5GB.
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I have an unlocked version, but I use it on AT&T - I have the unlimited data plan they used to sell with the iPhone.
I'm not completely current with their data plans, but I think they are relatively reasonable.
The streak is great, i almost don't use my netbook anymore. The camera is not great, and the speaker is not great for media (but wait till you see the video). Also, I'm getting the impression that its pretty delicate, so don't drop it!
Its very thin and about the size of your pocket, you you almost don't know its in there.
Of course you will want to root it, why not? You will need to upgrade the ROM if it comes with 1.6, which is just horrible. I'm using DJ_Steve's custom ROM, almost as much of an upgrade as coming from 1.6. Just fantastic...
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Edit: once you've used the streak, you'll wonder how you ever managed without it.
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I second that one. I didn't own Nexus One, but during last two years I used G1, iPhone, n900 and now Dell Streak. When I look at G1 it just looks so tiny now. Dell Streak definitely catches attention
I cant say much about phone function, I just don't use phone any more, but as all-around internet device I'm very happy with it. For browsing net, news, IM, apps large screen does big difference in my opinion, and you can still fit it into jeans pocket, if you don't have these tiny-tiny pockets.
I personally don't see any major drawbacks of this device. Maybe docking station is little expensive.
I have both and use them both regularly. Mostly I use the nexus for when I need something great and small. I use he Streak for mostly everything else. I have yet to be throttled by att and have had some huge months. I use them both as the internet connection for my OQO model 02 at work so I can complete my college assignments. If you have any questions pertaining to either or both just pm me and I will get you what I can. Its worth it, I even got my wife the white one from best buy. I think it will be able to handle honeycomb but can't be sure. Also it will be weather or not someone is willing to make a rom.
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RussianSolja said:
1. Is it worth the switch from a nexus one to the streak?
2. Is the streak capable to handle a 3.0 honeycomb upgrade?
3. What a some major cons about the streak that you experienced user's feel are worth sharing?
4. Is the streak worth rooting? And why?
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1. Used both and like streak better. faster and love the screen estate
2.I think so , but wouldnt want to go there until it offers something that is substantially bigger. Going from 1.6 to 2.2 was huge and was needed . However from 2.2 to 3. dont know
3.Very little support from developers. Except for steve( and fards) and his company , none...
I wish more developers come here( however must add that steve and fards is doing a great job. this is a great device.
4.Absolutely.. any android device for that matter.
Must add that : This device is larger than a normal smartphone and u will love it if u have a big hand... I have had many of my friends who had difficulty with size.
I had a rooted nexus one on tmo. The streak offers practically everything the n1 does. The only benefits n1 has over streak that is worth mentioning is more baked roms, and it gets first dibs on updates.
Btw att cap is 2gb. Its a joke if youre a heavy user or plan on tethering.
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I've owned both, nexus was fun until it decided to blow up on a brotha. The streak is everything one would ever ask for in a phone. And the wow factor is insane. Most people don't believe its a phone until u prove it lol. The only problems for me are the lack of development from attention and a few hardware incapatabilities with a few apps(chase). So of course u must root and Dj steve and creek are amazing. Been running 1.6.1 since release with no problems. LOVE THIS PHONE!!!
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Btw att cap is 2gb. Its a joke if youre a heavy user or plan on tethering.
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I have unlimited as most people who have owned smartphones n the past should also have. I heard somewhere that attention doesn't offer unlimited anymore, if that's true then that's just wrong. No way u can truly get the most out of these type phones if u don't have unlimited data.
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I have unlimited as most people who have owned smartphones n the past should also have. I heard somewhere that attention doesn't offer unlimited anymore, if that's true then that's just wrong. No way u can truly get the most out of these type phones if u don't have unlimited data.
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Yes, att does NOT offer unlimited data anymore. Honestly tho, I had unlimited data on tmo, att, and sprint and Im a pretty heavy user, but I dont think I ever broke the 2gb point (came close to it). However I SHOULD add that I dont really youtube or pandora on the go, and also im straight wifi as soon as I get home from school or work.
I was worried when I jumped back to att with the cap, but when I started monitoring my usages, most of em were at home so I dont worry anymore. But if youre the type that has to stream music or movies regularly on the go, or dont have wifi access, then stay away from these data cap plans.
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Yes, att does NOT offer unlimited data anymore. Honestly tho, I had unlimited data on tmo, att, and sprint and Im a pretty heavy user, but I dont think I ever broke the 2gb point (came close to it). However I SHOULD add that I dont really youtube or pandora on the go, and also im straight wifi as soon as I get home from school or work.
I was worried when I jumped back to att with the cap, but when I started monitoring my usages, most of em were at home so I dont worry anymore. But if youre the type that has to stream music or movies regularly on the go, or dont have wifi access, then stay away from these data cap plans.
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I've hit my 5GB limit last month with T-Mobile and fear that 2GB might not be enough for me lol. By reading all these posts I see that there are more pros then cons with this device and that more people are happy with it. I called at&t and asked them about getting more then 2GB from them and they told me its going to cost $10 per gigabyte a month. Here's my other question. What are your monthly bills looking like? Are you guys paying more then $100 a month with your plans? And which plan is more worth going with? I've been with T-Mobile for 6 years and don't wanna regret switching to at&t.
Can't comment on the Nexus one...
The Streak is an awesome take anywhere device. Its one of a kind right now.
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If you are switching from T-mobile then you will miss the customer service and the billing with t-mobile is very consistent. I had switch to at&t because the signal with t-mobile was non existent in rural cities and highways in mississippi. I will say i miss my old t-mobile plan. $94 dollars for unlimited everything and that included tax. My bill is like $115 with taxes with AT&T. I say if you are trying to switch to AT&T you must follow my checklist:
1.Bring in your own device so you are not binded to a contract.
2.Browse the ebay or other sites for people trying to transfer their service that have the unlimited data.
3.Make sure you prepare to see a higher bill by budgeting.
I've been a bit of a smartphone junkie for the last four years, but now that I have a Xoom (on Verizon) my Evo barely gets used. I'm considering porting my number to Google Voice and paying the Sprint ETF, then pointing the number at a cheap pre-paid dumbphone. Something with just voice and basic texting, and good battery life. It looks like I'd recoup the ETF in a few months and save a bunch over the remaining 18 months of my Sprint contract.
There would be both pros and cons to this, most definitely, but for some reason I find the idea extremely attractive. Maybe it just seems like it would be futuristic or I'd be getting away with something.
I saw one person in here mentioning that they did this, anyone else considering it? Anyone else go tablet & dumbphone and have any advice or protips? I'm worried there's something terribly wrong with this plan that I'm not thinking of, or else more people would do it.
yeah ive been thinking about it too. The only reason i will stick to my droid 2 is tethering.
i thought about it, but the reality is as much as i use the tablet, i still use my phone quite a bit.
there are many times it is easier to just look at something on my phone (which is usually in my hand unless i am driving or riding my motorcycle) than it is to pull out the tablet.
Tethering and size will keep a smartphone on me.
Yeah, I gotta still have a phone. I'm not going to carry a tablet around with me everywhere.
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Tethering and size will keep a smartphone on me.
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Exactly, if you simply buy a wifi only tablet and keep the smartphone, you can keep your monthly payments light by only paying for one device
This is exactly what I did. My phone is a Samsung Gusto. I use Google Voice through it still, if I want to place a call, I place it through the Xoom to have consistency with numbers. Also means I don't have to put any contacts in my Gusto. I have my Xoom with me everywhere I go, purchased a bag for it(a murse if you will, though it's a US Army map bag), also carry my Droid and my wallet in said bag. Works well enough for me and I use my tablet less in public than I did my Droid, which I see as a plus My phone only costs 9.99/mo on our family plan(I've got my mom and sister on there as well), so $30/month for the Xoom(1gb plan plus the stupid extra line fee), insurance and the 9.99/mo puts me lower than where I was with my Droid.
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This is exactly what I did. My phone is a Samsung Gusto. I use Google Voice through it still, if I want to place a call, I place it through the Xoom to have consistency with numbers.
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Interesting - when you say you place the call through the Xoom, are you using the GVoice website or the apk that's floating around to initiate the call?
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Interesting - when you say you place the call through the Xoom, are you using the GVoice website or the apk that's floating around to initiate the call?
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Website, the APK won't dial out to another phone, it does nothing when you tell it to 'call'
I will be keeping my Droid X and will definitely not need a 4g phone.
I'll be doing the same thing here real soon. I have a LG Dare that will work just fine. Everything else can happen on the xoom.
Not here, I'll be keeping a smartphone because when I'm in a meeting or in the office and I'm required to have my laptop, then I need something lightweight to keep in touch with my personal contacts, social networks, etc. Also, going to a party or bar hopping with my Xoom might not be the best thing, especially after a few drinks. I can't imagine asking for a number and pulling out this big ass tablet like "Excuse me while I whip this out" lmao!!
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Not here, I'll be keeping a smartphone because when I'm in a meeting or in the office and I'm required to have my laptop, then I need something lightweight to keep in touch with my personal contacts, social networks, etc. Also, going to a party or bar hopping with my Xoom might not be the best thing, especially after a few drinks. I can't imagine asking for a number and pulling out this big ass tablet like "Excuse me while I whip this out" lmao!!
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I already did that once
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I already did that once
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How did it work out for you? LOL!!!
Another option is to go to a carrier like T-Mobile where you can get a data only plan on a smartphone, then use Google Voice and SIP/VoIP. That'd probably be about 40 bucks a month. You could tether your Xoom to that for free.
An even cheaper alternative, if you can carry the Xoom around, is to cancel your phone plan entirely and tether your phone to your Xoom. 20 bucks a month for the 1GB data plan should be plenty.
I did have a fantasy of having a 4G enabled phone, unlimited plan, and tether everything to that, but battery life is the killer. The Xoom has far superior battery life. Even a Mifi will only last you for a couple hours. But yes, eventually my dream is to have one device that lasts all day and projects 4G wifi to whatever device I happen to be using at the time. At that point works just as well if you pull out your MacBook and need to tether.
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I have my Xoom dialing through Sipdroid with pbxes and i can make calls just not receive them at this point.
I use CSipSimple -> SipGate -> Google Voice to make calls and the reverse to receive them. Both directions work. However, with SipGate they allow you receive calls for free, making calls costs money. So, if you use the Google Voice website to place a call, it will call you back then connect you, which SipGate coutns as a free received call. There is an app called GVCallback that does this much easier, but it integrates with the normal phone dialer and so doesn't work with the Xoom at this point.
I'm currently using a voyager and my xoom and I'm ok with the combo but I do miss a smart phone especially since I find the thunderbolt tempting
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How did it work out for you? LOL!!!
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She was actually all about my tablet at the bar, checking it out, talking to me and such... My friend was trying to tell me she was taken but I was too inebriated to get the subtle hints, so as you can imagine, it did not go too well I think it would have gone much better if she weren't taken
I've been thinking of something like this too. My EVO is okay.. but a little too finicky for 3G or 4G tethering. I read that there will be a data only option with the thunderbolt. I might consider that.
I'm on Sprint and ready to upgrade my Hero. The problem though is that the Hero has left me very hesitant to buy a phone with a custom skin, and I will not spend my money on a non-stock Android phone. Is the Nexus S 4G still a good phone compared to current dual core phones or should I just wait until Sprint gets the Galaxy Nexus?
I went from the hero to the NS4G when they had them for $30 after rebate and such, and I don't regret it at all. Even running stock it blows the hero away. Could that perception change over the next 2 years? Sure, but after dealing with the hero being pretty inadequate from the get go I doubt that it will be anything I can't deal with. The only complaint i have found is that the external speaker volume is about half of the hero. I can't pay ~$200+ for a phone any more.
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Depends on the amount of money you want to spend. The NS4G is a fine phone and I enjoy it and like dpeeps the only complaint I would have is the speaker on it. I like to listen to podcast on my phone, when I'm at home I still listen to em on the Hero, I pretty much use the Hero it as a iPod/MP3Player type device now.
I had to make this same decision back in August and am so happy that I did. There will always be faster, prettier, better...etc. phones coming out so you just have to accept that. I haven't ran into 1 problem yet with my Nexus and I'm not leaving Sprint so for me it's the best phone they had and still have available. I'll upgrade once they get their LTE system in place and phones to work on it.
Good to hear that it is still a very capable phone! I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus, if Sprint gets it. I remember when the NS4G came out that a lot of people were complaining about the reception on it and I was wondering if it had ever gotten fixed or if it was ever a real problem to begin with.
Quad Core phones should be coming by springtime. LTE or not, that's what I'm waiting to jump on
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I also have a Hero and I'm ready to upgrade. I'll also be getting a Nexus S, but I'm waiting until Friday because it's going to be free! I can't post links because I lurk a lot, but if you check out phandroid's Hero news (or sprintfeed.com, where they got the article from), Sprint is giving away Nexus S' on Black Friday.
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Good to hear that it is still a very capable phone! I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade for the Galaxy Nexus, if Sprint gets it. I remember when the NS4G came out that a lot of people were complaining about the reception on it and I was wondering if it had ever gotten fixed or if it was ever a real problem to begin with.
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Seems for some people it really was an issue, supposedly a update fixed it, I was one of the ones that never had any reception issue so can't say.
ns4g is already really outdated in todays mobile market
spending a few hundred bucks for a phone your going to use for maybe a month or 2 seems a little ridiculous.
you should save the money.
and if i were you i wouldnt wait for the galaxy nexus on sprint, i would jump ship to another carrier like im planning on doing. (with sprint for 9 years now)
sprint reception is getting worse and worse, their data speeds are getting slower and slower
just yesterday we had major problems, couldnt make or recieve calls or send texts.
i would highly consider switching carriers.
that being said if you want to stay on sprint the epic touch is a really amazing phone, held back by its carrier.
good luck
Outdated is probably a stretch. The phone is more than capable of handling anything a dual core phone can handle. I'm sure there's some few exceptions, but spending a few hundred bucks on anything that's as disposable as a mobile phone these days isn't too bright. Wait a couple months and they all become exponentially cheaper on some sale or rebate.
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Well do you like huge phones?? The Galaxy Nexus is HUGE...Well if you absolutely need a new phone just now then get a Nexus S 4g. If you can wait a few months to see what comes out then the Galaxy Nexus will probably be worth the wait....
I was thinking about getting a nexus s too. But, does it bother anybody that it doesn't have a notification LED? I hadn't heard about the speakers.
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Nexus is free all weekend plus u also get $25 in free new Google wallet.
So not bad for a newer phone.
And yes of course u still have to pay taxes and activation
But
It's unavoidable in any new phone purchase
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I was thinking about getting a nexus s too. But, does it bother anybody that it doesn't have a notification LED? I hadn't heard about the speakers.
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Most of the kernels include a mod called BLN that allows you to turn on/blink the capacitive buttons on notification. The LED light is a little more obvious but it I've gotten used to it.
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Well I'm getting the Nexus S soon. It may be outdated but it still is a great phone considering that it is free until Monday but I really just want a phone that will get the latest Android updates wether its official or not. Galaxy Nexus is also great but no one knows when Sprint will get it or its price.
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I was planning on buying it used off of Craigslist or eBay so that I can save my upgrade
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How does this allow you to save your upgrade? Will Sprint do an ESN swap from the Hero onto the Nexus and keep you on your existing contract? I too am interested in saving my upgrade until the new LTE network is in place, but would love a new(er) phone in the meantime.
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How does this allow you to save your upgrade? Will Sprint do an ESN swap from the Hero onto the Nexus and keep you on your existing contract? I too am interested in saving my upgrade until the new LTE network is in place, but would love a new(er) phone in the meantime.
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Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
And really to anyone talking about only going for pure stock Android phones or waiting for the galaxy nexus, your missing out lol... Take 5 minutes on a 1ghz phone with Sense and you'll be hooked. The Hero just didn't have the power to handle it. And the Galaxy Nexus is really kind of a letdown tbh. In literally 3 months we'll see 2+ ghz quadcores and higher than 8 megapixel cameras as a bonus. And 4.0 ICS will be all over the place by then
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Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
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Nice, thanks for the info. I did an ESN swap once before with Sprint when I bought a phone from wirefly.com, but that was with an upgrade. I didn't realize they'd allow it while still under contract.
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Thanks for all of the advice on the NS4G. I decided to go with the E4GT after using my brother's phone over Thanksgiving break. It will suit my needs just fine for the next two years.
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Sprint makes it easy to swap really... Just log into the sprint website and find the option in there. It asks for the numbers located on the back of the phone under the battery and then transfers your service to the new phone. Your old one should still have a clean ESN and be good to sell. My family has gone the eBay route a few times now to save our upgrades.
And really to anyone talking about only going for pure stock Android phones or waiting for the galaxy nexus, your missing out lol... Take 5 minutes on a 1ghz phone with Sense and you'll be hooked. The Hero just didn't have the power to handle it. And the Galaxy Nexus is really kind of a letdown tbh. In literally 3 months we'll see 2+ ghz quadcores and higher than 8 megapixel cameras as a bonus. And 4.0 ICS will be all over the place by then
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Per chance do you know if this works with the old non-premium data plans? If I swap ESNs will they want to charge me the $10 a month "premium data" plan for a smartphone? I'm boycotting upgrading until this goes away. I mean my heroc does everything I need and we've almost got ICS there, I don't see a reason to upgrade. (Yes armv7/front camera/dual core/soon to be LTE would be nice but those aren't "necessities" imo)
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Per chance do you know if this works with the old non-premium data plans? If I swap ESNs will they want to charge me the $10 a month "premium data" plan for a smartphone? I'm boycotting upgrading until this goes away. I mean my heroc does everything I need and we've almost got ICS there, I don't see a reason to upgrade. (Yes armv7/front camera/dual core/soon to be LTE would be nice but those aren't "necessities" imo)
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The $10 fee is just for any data plan now I think, and its here to stay There isn't a loophole there though I don't think. If you switch to a 4G phone they'll probably slap it on there.
I just bought my Nexus S off of Ebay lol, so ill find out next week. The touchscreen on my Hero is starting to cut out and I still wanna save my upgrade
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