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Anyone getting the Droid X?

Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.

sasha101 said:
Im thinking of getting the drod x on july 19th. My contract with tmobile expires on july fourth so ill probably sell the nexus for it. What do you guys think? Is it a major upgrade? It has 4.3 inch screen and seems better than the evo.
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I say go for it. Don't see why not.. your contract expires.. seems pretty perfect.

Phone looks great but think that CDMA is outdated. No data and voice at the same time. Useless phone if you travel to Europe....

no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device

Old MuckenMire said:
no voice+data= no sale
having people who call getting dumped to voicemail because I'm using data is not cool
besides I'm personally not ready to go back to a carrier device
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If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!

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If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.

I also hate Moto since they locked the bootloader of the Milestone.
I would wait and see how the rooting/custom rom effort comes along.
The droid has great community, just make sure Moto doesn't follow up on their bad habbits!

lazaro17 said:
Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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What about tethering?I believe this might be what he was referring to...

A HSDPA version of the Droid X would be nice, like the Milestone, but ONLY if they leave the boot loader unlockable this time. CDMA is effectively dead in Canada now with only legacy contracts still using the old networks.
It seems like Motorola uses good components in their phones and their build quality is very good, but I don't care for their tacked on UI and would only get the phone if I knew it was possible to load something like CyanogenMod on it. The Nexus One has spoiled me.

I'm constantly intrigued by the design of the Droid and now the Droid X and Droid 2, but I just can't stomach a contract and the outrageous Verizon plans. I'll stick with my Nexus and cheap T-mo data for now.

If your browsing the web and someone calls, they get forwarded to voicemail?!
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Ofcourse not. He just meant that you can't check movie times or what not while you're on a call. I guess in theory it's nice to do both but to be fair I never have found myself in a situation where I am so bored with someones phone conversation that I just start surfing the web mid-call. Ok....maybe once.
The real CDMA deal breaker for me is traveling abroad.
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I do it. All the time. At least once a day.
And also I'm with ya on the whole cdma bull****. Its such an outdated technology. And I hate Verizon. And I hate carrier devices. I hate carrier branding.
That's why I love the nexus one and att
That's why ill buy the nexus two. And I know I mentioned that I'm gonna buy iPhone 4 but I've been thinking. Apple can go screw its self. nexus pwns it.

More interesting question is anybody thinking about getting the Galaxy S?

Technically, GSM 3G is a flavor of CDMA...just allows for simultaneous voice and data because of the way it's configured. However, GSM networks can still be configured to only allow voice or data at once, they just happen to have been set up originally to allow them both. The ironic part of it is just that nobody knew when they set up the network that it would be this way and it would end up being such a huge deal - lucky break for AT&T.

If root is easy it will surely boost sales (I hope manufacturers understand this).
Very good specs, but lets wait for an actual device in-depth review

the droid X can plan .AVI FILES!!!!!! also comes with a multitouch keyboard
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

Meh, I'll pass.
I think it's rather fugly.

Nexus
It's time for Nexus 2!

Sorry, you can keep the tablet phones...

Little too big for my daily use. And we need more detailed specs & benchmarks for validation.

i think these devices are way too big. Ive played with the Evo and this is bigger?! I thought the Evo was big and clunky. Maybe something just a lil bit bigger than my N1 would be my limit. I think Android has this thing where they think bigger is better. I dont wanna hold that thing in my pocket? These things are ganna be tablets size soon

Should I Make the Switch?

So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.

The N1 is amazing, especially coming from something like the mytouch3G. The Nexus one (tmobile version) can be bought as a Dev phone currently from Google at the normal price ($529) plus a $25 developer activation fee. You certainly wont regret the N1 if you decide to get it.
Another good Tmobile phone is the Vibrant, in general it meets if not slightly beat the nexus one in many departments even without froyo's JIT. And you can get a Vibrant for a little less then the $550 you would pay for a Nexus One.
Of course both can be found on Craigslist or ebay at a huge degree of different prices also.
Nothing I can think of that would cause any major price drops in the near future. ALSO there is the new HSPA+ flagphone that will be out soon that I'm certainly interested in.
My advise is to look at the tmobile android lineup (curent and future) and see if you know of anyone or go to the store and see if you can test them and if you like them more then the mytouch.
-Cheers

Best phone ever best android experience as well
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

To put this as objectively as possible coming from a n1 user. The nexus one is a nice phone if you're very into customizing, from my knowledge of android devices, it's the top for modding. However it all depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. For example if you're going to be playing games that require multitouch (nova) then it does have an issue with its multitouch. To some that's not an issue cause they don't game to others it is. The other major issue that I see at least for me is the small internal storage space. 512mb, really google? That's just two of the issues that I would really liked to be different, they're the only real issues for me. An hdmi out would be nice, but I wouldn't use it that much i'm assuming so it's not a deal breaker for me, same thing with a front facing camera.
But then you have things like the trackball that's nice for notifications, the screen size is just right, it's powerful and everything AND it gets all the updates first! It has a flash, the camera is pretty good actually (even though I hate cell cameras).
The only device on T-mobile that I can see as being another option would be the samsung vibrant, especially if you plan to play games on it, since it doesn't have the multitouch issue, and the gpu is really powerful. Problems with the device for me is the lack of a flash for the vibrant.
As for is it worth it? Well that depends on if spending the money is worth it and if you're going to get another phone anyways, yes the n1 is a great phone if you can overlook the multitouch issue and the small internal storage space.
EDIT: one more issue that I have with the n1 is that the audio is kinda bad, the speakers are quiet, and the headphone's sound is also quiet. Just wish the sound could be up'ed more so that it's a reasonable sound quality. Just seems more quieter than other android phones that I've had.

htc420 said:
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
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Either get the N1 right now, it's still an amazing phone, and I see NOTHING in market right now that I'd trade it for.
Or, wait several months for next gen to come out, something with an even stronger CPU, maybe even gingerbread around Christmas. And NO, it won't be called a Nexus Two.
Me, I'm wating for that second option. No smartphone/PDA on the market today appeals to me as an upgrade.

unfortunately price wont drop for a while, it's now a dev phone. but once you have it in ur hand, im sure ud feel the price was worth it. you can always sell the N1 too with if you dont like it. and if you're geek enough, have a flashing addiction of nightlies, constantly making trying out something new with ur phone, this should be it.

I was in your same position. I got the My Touch 3g 1.2. And it was awesome, but I read somewhere that it was like a mini Nexus One and that made me more curious. I sold the phone soon after, and found a Nexus One, and it really is an incredible device, with an operating system built and tested specially or it (FRF91). The one downside is that you have to worry about the Nexus One a bit more. When my ipod is dead, the MT3G was ok for the gym, but not the N1. It has actually forced me to take better care of my phone, and other devices in general. It was a good decision, for sure.
Most of the upcoming Android phones seem to be rebuilt versions of this phone, and the N1 is still expected to get most updates, app add-ons and functions first. All dual core processor phones are still a long way away and are only rumored devices. If you are extremely patient you could wait it out, or just buy the N1 and sell it in a year.

One item on the list "to consider" might be - Nexus will be the 1st existing device to get Gingerbread update, probably by a considerable time margin.

If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.

dooo it! my touch3g is old and slow!!!!

Buying a Nexus One for $554 plus tax without a data plan would be absolute and downright insanity.

Wouldn't do it without a data plan!

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If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
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galaxys said:
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.

no there is nothing limited by not having a data plan. and if you are near wifi all day then its will be just the same. but when you're driving in your car and want to use navigation, or look something up on google maps, wifi isnt gonna help you. that's what they're saying.
and yes you can add a data plan anytime without extending your contract on most any carrier nowadays.

LOL
i buy my N1 without data plan xD
i dont regret since i have wifi around in my work and home and im outside wifi range like 4 hours at day in bus or subway.
and im fine perhaps its like kill a fly wit a cannon
i will get in 10 days my 3g plan (too expensive here >_< )
but yea after months with wifi, all its ok but with 3g AMAZING phone

htc420 said:
Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
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I guess anywhere I have wifi, I have computer access, so I don't really touch my phone during those times.
There's no restrictions from the OS itself regarding data.
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.

JCopernicus said:
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.

JCopernicus said:
Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Because T-Mobile is the ****! I cautiously walked away from ATT and Verizon a few years ago and was amazed at what I found in Tmobile, I will never go back

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Nothing...many other carriers check your imei number but tmobile rarely does anything with it. Try it, the worse that could happen is they figure out you have a smartphone and bump you back up to what you are currently paying. Theoretically there is no difference between the dumbphone and the smartphone variant (im pretty sure).

Use as a phone

Yeah I know, not the first thread on the subject
I am a rather happy owner of a Galaxy Tab for the past 36 hours and I just wanted to share my feelings about the usage as a phone. Until I own it I was pretty much convinced this was going to be my main phone, just a question of being able to use a Bluetooth headset with it.
I am not 100% sure anymore.
First, and probably because it's the first time I use a headset I have found this much less convenient than using a phone (This is hopefully just a question of getting used to it). Can't see who is calling (Yep with the right headset the name will show, I may purchase one, but still wont have the picture), people around can hear much better what you're saying, if if you have to manipulate the tab for whatever reason, given its size you feel clumsy
Second, texting while walking in the street is pretty much more difficult. The Tab is big, easy to drop (Read the few threads around of people who broke their screen). It takes me half a second to take my Touch Pro 2 out of my pocket, get the keyboard out and type some messages while walking. And given its size I nearly never dropped it (And whenever I did it always survived without being wounded ). I am definitely slower with my tab (Plus I have to get used to use an on-screen keyboard, but then yeah on this I guess it's a question of getting used to it)
Third (maybe funny): while in meetings I didn't see anybody raise an eyebrow whenever I was texting with my TP2 (looks a bit like a blackberry and anyway quite discrete) I can see how much attention I draw whenever I answer some txt or emails now ! And with the screen size it make sit easy to see what I ma doing... Not the Tab's neg, but for me kind of a drawback
Last one (This one may make some laugh): I love clubbing, bar hoping, etc... I thought it would fit my back pocket. And it does ! however try dancing with that in your back pocket... That's not gonna work And there is no way I'd leave my phone at the cloak, I need it with me (take phone numbers, give direction to friends, etc...). I'd be better off leaving the Tab in the cloak and still go around with a small device (Even an average sized device like my TP2 handles OK while dancing)
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one). Couldn't find anything similar with AT&T in the US If anybody ever heard of this kind of services.... It would be perfect. Then I can still swap SIM cards but that sucks... (And I guess if you do it 5 times a day you may damage your SIM (If not lose it while dropping it)). Another solution is to tether the phone to the Tab (Great I paid for a 3G Tab for nothing !!) but on that I am quite worried about the battery life of both devices Maybe through Bluetooth rather than Wifi ? Would consume less ? If anybody has an idea... Or could try SIM cloning... But it seems it's not really possible anymore with SIM v2 (And besides if the operator doesn't offer the service described above I guess there will be conflicts between the 2 devices at some stage (Not 100% sure but possible)
Anyway... Don't flame me, would just be happy to exchange on the subject with people who have found solutions, have ideas on the matter, or just inform future buyers

Waoh, zero interest on the subject !

Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless

Alcibiade said:
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one).
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In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
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Dave

NickDroid said:
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
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The thing is since not so many people know what it is, it attracts attention... So it's not very discrete, while a small phone you can type your personal messages during meetings people don't really pay attention (Or think you're sending professional messages)

foxmeister said:
I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
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Dave
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Well... I am European... (Although I live in NY)
US carriers suck for data plans. I lived in japan and HK before where for half the price I got much better service... Definitely for £10 a month I wouldn't even bother thinking about using my phone SIM card in my Tab to take advantage of my unlimited data plan (Which by the way in the SU looks more and more like it will be limited by throttling down once you reach a threshold.............)

Why would you need 2 plans with AT&T tab? I guess you didn't want to flash her.
Your other points are completely valid. It is just a matter of personal opinion/wanting to replace the phone with tab enough. Thanks for sharing!

Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?

Thanks for the post. I've been thinking to get the tab to replace my I9000 as the main phone, but after I read your post, I think I'll hold it for a while .....

PLinga said:
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
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I thought about these options... Still not satisfying
Battery life ? I dont phone much but definitely much better than my Touch pro 2 (And I use activesync, bluetooth, etc...)

Former Evo owners?

I have been debating with myself on whether or not to get a galaxy tab. I was wanting to hear from anybody who was a former Evo owner. Does the tab seem a lot bulkier than the Evo? Would you go back to the Evo if you had a chance? I have seen some belt clips for the tab. Does it feel comfortable or does it feel like you have a book glued to your hip.

Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.

Thanks for the info. If I get a tab it will be to completely replace the Evo as I would be selling(i.e. "giving") it to my brother in law and he would use it on our plan instead of his intercept and I would be using the tab exclusively. He and I both have been disappointed with the Intercept that he has and he would like to get an Evo. The Evo I have allowed me to give up my pmp and just use the Evo. The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.

evo to tab adjustments
Just recently switched from an Evo to an AT&T GT. It definitely takes some getting used to if the Tab becomes your primary phone. I use a headset, but now I realize just how much I fiddle with my phone while I do other things.
As for the additional bulk--I pretend I'm carrying around a day organizer, and it feels less weird, other than the fact that I'm carrying my day organizer every time I get up to go somewhere.

I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?

Lindarose84 said:
Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.
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That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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ElAguila said:
I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?
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From what I read, you are correct. I only flashed the kernel and z4 root, 1.2 goodness.
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nzaw4 said:
That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.

ElAguila said:
The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.
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Just an FYI, but personally I would not give up my Kindle because of my Tab.
IMO, the Tab is great for occasional reading, but the Kindle's e-ink is vastly superior for extended reading.
Your mileage may vary of course, but I'd wait until you've had both in your hands for a few weeks before deciding to drop the Kindle.
Regards,
Dave

Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.

Lindarose84 said:
I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.
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Yea csip is not working for out going, but with data tracking, 3g watchdog is great.
I also am running myn too. Its an awesome rom. Finally got the evo to run 20 hours moderate usage onbstock battery with sbc... So kinda sucks to leave my baby
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atoy74 said:
Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.
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But xoom is priced at 700.... Who knows what type of data plan also
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[Q] Lost my phone. Could I use a Nexus 7 instead?

So Thursday night I left my phone (Sensation 4G running CM10) in a cab and after trying everything I could think of to get it back, I've come to the glum realisation that it's gone for good.
I really need some sort of mobile communication device, not to mention that taking a sh*t is in orders of magnitude more boring without a smartphone. I get paid on the 15th and had planned on getting the Nexus 4. The only thing I'm worried about is since it goes on preorder on the 13th, they'll be sold by the time I get paid and won't be able to get one until the end of November at the earliest.
That got me thinking: Could I use the Nexus 7 as my main communication device?
One of the major reasons for this line of thinking is that I ride a motorcycle, so I don't use a phone anyway while I ride; not even for navigation. Also, since I've lost my phone, I've been using Google Voice to communicate with my family and friends via SMS and it's worked out pretty good so far. Most of my family have Android devices, so I could train them to use Google Talk also; and of course there's always Skype.
Having Wifi at home and at work makes me think it will be possible to use the Nexus 7 pretty much exclusively. The only time it'd be a pain in the ass would be going out with friends and carousing drunkenly. I suppose I could get one of those girly purse pouch things, but that's not really my style. I'd also be afraid of damaging it or getting it stolen.
Another possibility would be to get the HSPA+ version with Straight Talk or T-Mobile Monthly 4G; both offer unlimited mobile data at $45 and $30 / month respectively (though I believe Tmo is throttled at 5GB). This route would cost $100 more than the 16GB version.
So what do you guys think? Is it possible to do this or am I thinking too positively and not seeing potential complications? What would you guys do in my situation?

Shady Gambino said:
So Thursday night I left my phone (Sensation 4G running CM10) in a cab and after trying everything I could think of to get it back, I've come to the glum realisation that it's gone for good.
I really need some sort of mobile communication device, not to mention that taking a sh*t is in orders of magnitude more boring without a smartphone. I get paid on the 15th and had planned on getting the Nexus 4. The only thing I'm worried about is since it goes on preorder on the 13th, they'll be sold by the time I get paid and won't be able to get one until the end of November at the earliest.
That got me thinking: Could I use the Nexus 7 as my main communication device?
One of the major reasons for this line of thinking is that I ride a motorcycle, so I don't use a phone anyway while I ride; not even for navigation. Also, since I've lost my phone, I've been using Google Voice to communicate with my family and friends via SMS and it's worked out pretty good so far. Most of my family have Android devices, so I could train them to use Google Talk also; and of course there's always Skype.
Having Wifi at home and at work makes me think it will be possible to use the Nexus 7 pretty much exclusively. The only time it'd be a pain in the ass would be going out with friends and carousing drunkenly. I suppose I could get one of those girly purse pouch things, but that's not really my style. I'd also be afraid of damaging it or getting it stolen.
Another possibility would be to get the HSPA+ version with Straight Talk or T-Mobile Monthly 4G; both offer unlimited mobile data at $45 and $30 / month respectively (though I believe Tmo is throttled at 5GB). This route would cost $100 more than the 16GB version.
So what do you guys think? Is it possible to do this or am I thinking too positively and not seeing potential complications? What would you guys do in my situation?
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well, you better report it being lost so the sim in there isn't active, or it will cost you. as for a communication device, i think its safer to just get an old dumb phone for the moment, and put your replacement sim in there, so people who only know your phone number can still call you. good luck!

Billchen0014 said:
well, you better report it being lost so the sim in there isn't active, or it will cost you. as for a communication device, i think its safer to just get an old dumb phone for the moment, and put your replacement sim in there, so people who only know your phone number can still call you. good luck!
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I should have mentioned that I had a Straight Talk SIM in there and my prepaid service had run out the next day, so if anyone wanted to use my SIM, they'd have to reload a prepaid plan.
I had thought of getting or borrowing a dumb phone, but I don't have a GSM one and I'm not sure anyone I know has one. I'm tight on cash at the moment and don't want to spend money I could be putting toward a Nexus 4 or 7 unnecessarily. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I really am interested to see if people think this would be possible, at least until I get a Nexus 4; I have wanted a N7 for a while, so this would be a pretty good excuse to get one.

Bear in mind you'd look like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWV97pdNzOM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

alan77ss said:
Bear in mind you'd look like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWV97pdNzOM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Hhaha, well, that's kind of what the Note and Note 2 guys look like

There are not hard facts whether the Nexus 7 3G will have a Voice capable modem/radio inside... or if the device will only transmit data signal.
I'm hoping its a full 3G mode/radio inside, and the Dialer/SMS App have just been removed (as they are on all tablet version of Android)