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I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
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I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
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Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
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All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.
Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.
Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...
3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
HD fever
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Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.
Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!
The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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I am still waiting to hear from the repair guys regarding my iPhone 3GS. That's the initial reason I made the jump. But the clock is ticking and my 30 days are almost up. So if I hear from the tomorrow and my phone is reparable, I may take the Atrix back and wait to see what the iPhone 5 is gonna boast and if its nothing but a 4GS type of an upgrade... I'll most likely repurchase the Atrix. I just don't want to be kicking myself IF (the operative word is IF) the iPhone summer update release is comparable or surpasses any other phone on the market.
With all of the mods the developers are creating, I'm hopeful that the speed thing won't be an issue for long. But you are right about AT&T being shady.
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At least you have a 3GS. Do you know how horrible it is go from a fast, 1ghz phone, to a phone that's 400mhz with 128mb ram? Plus it's JB, so it's even slower.
I'm curious about iphone 5 as well, but it's going to take more than hardware to bring me back. I had an iPhone 4, and the antenna sucked. Also, I'm super bored with the OS. If the OS gets a major overhaul and the phone is better, I'll probably get it.
There is also the rumor about the HTC Revolver coming around Q3. Dual core, Android 3.0 (my guess is 2.4).
I'm actually really thinking about switching to VZW for the Tbolt. Except I hate VZW and have had a much more positive experience on AT&T. Except, at the current moment, they're only the 3rd fastest in Phoenix. Tmo and VZW LTE are faster.
Decisions... Decisions...
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Going to return mine if HSUPA / Skype issue is not resolved as both are pretty much a deal breaker for me.
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+1... Really need both when I travel...
i was thinking of returning mine because of the 2gb cap but i doubt i will
and since im able to get a steady connection from att and one that is fast and not bad like sprint and tmo it.
i believe that att and moto will push out the updates soon
its not like it samsung or sprint
I'll likely return mine. And too bad I sold my AT&T N1 today.
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The Atrix is kind of my second Android device. I had a Captivate for a few weeks and wasn't a fan. After following the Atrix (back when it was known as the Olympus), and having own it since the 21st, I think it's time to return it.
I like the phone. I like Android. And while AT&T may not be the fastest in my area, they're pretty good. But having my upload speeds "capped" really irritates me. There's no reason why it shouldn't have HSUPA enabled. And I don't trust AT&T to update it. So, as a consumer, I'm going to vote with my wallet and return my Atrix before I get locked into a contract.
I've been looking really hard to find an N1 for AT&T. The search hasn't gone well. Most people I've contacted on craigslist have a hard time telling me if it's Tmo or AT&T 3G. I figured most people with N1 were geeks and would know that question right off the top of their head. I've found a couple of ebay, and even though I know that phone is awesome, I have a hard time paying $300+ for a year+ old phone.
Anyone that knows someone selling an N1 for AT&T 3G, I'd be willing to pay up to $250 based on condition. I just really, really, really don't want to go back to using my iPhone 3G.
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Isn't the HSUPA+ of the Atrix is not compatible with the AT&T tower yet unless they turn the HSPA+ on?
I'm confused. Motorola is working on Skype compatibility now.
i'd sell you my ATT N1 for 275
Not a chance.
I'm building linux (ubuntu) boxes as often as I can and to have a phone of the same ilk is quite nice. One that is this fast is quite the bonus.
Phone carrying corps won't do anything unless we vote no with our dollars. I know I'm not doing it. Switching to another company still shows you are hooked.
iphones are boring. Edit: Great designs, beautiful methodologies. Still, boring bar the eye candy.
I have 10 more days to decide. I'm really on the fence still. On one hand the hardware is amazing and blazing fast. Friends and family wow at the tegra hd games, hdmi webdock with out using the official moto dock, and the snappiness of the OS is great (granted its rooted, frozen and better optimized than stock form.) Also, the hope that the bootloader will be open in the future and custom roms made for it are a big wait and keep it flag for me. But on the other hand moto has left a bad taste in my mouth with the locked bootloader, and so has at&t with the HSUPA fiasco. But then I have to also hope that a more powerful or as powerful "community friendly phone" will be out soon as well, because anything else up till now doesn't boast this kind of hardware and speed in MY experience..... Decisions.
I already returned mine. Motorola made such an awesome phone and then teamed up with AT&T to completely cripple it! I fully trust AT&T will do everything they can to SCREW Atrix buyers. GET OUT NOW WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
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There isn't a chance in hell apple does anything but incremental upgrades.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Everyone will still buy it. The iPhone 4 was an extremely large jump, this will be a nice step forward.
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At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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At&t sent me a message that i HAVE to upgrade to their 2.2 is this actually important?
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Perhaps the message you received today is different from the one I got. The one I got didn't say I had to flash the update, it just implied as much by emphasizing what an "important" update this is. In any event, it's all a load of crap. The update is not required (it's your device; no one can make you flash a ROM that you don't want to install), and be advised that if you do flash it you won't be able to root. In fact, you'll lose root if you have it and you won't be able to get it back. AT&T can bite me.
This is what the txt message said:
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
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It is as Buck said, it is an optional suggestion.
Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
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I got one this afternoon.
I hate at and t
Im pretty sure we all got that same message. You dont HAVE to upgrade (or downgrade for those of us on 2.3 already ). Just delete the message and go on with your lives as usual.
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Ok thanks guys I guess mines different they also said I need to install software to my phone
AT&T Free Msg: An important software update is available for your HTC Aria. To update to Android 2.2, connect to http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/ and follow the instructions.
This is what I received. In any event, disregard it.
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yah, i got the same message too. DELETE
told my friends also to disregard. Damn ATT trying to take control
I looked at the message as I was heading into the bank, laughed because I was already on 2.2 (Liberated FR008) and deleted the message.
Coming to find out, it was ironic that I received the message the same day AT&T started clamping down on iPhone users for tethering, since I had to use the hotspot function on an unlimited data plan the weekend before due to a fried cable modem in the house.
Deleted message. It was also on the day that I read somewhere that AT&T is buying out T Mobile. Another bad sign...The less competitors to AT&T = Higher pricing, less stability, poorer customer service and pretty much an all around awful experience..
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Yeah, like everyone has said don't be fooled into this update.
A friend of mine went to att and bought an android, but they helpfully updated the device before giving it to him. He promptly asked for a virgin device and they did so.
They will sell you what you want... well mostly. Heh
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So, hypothetically, say I'm an idiot
and updated with ATT before reading this forum post about how I won't be able to root/mod. Any estimates on how long it will take before 2.2 is rooted for the Aria? I now realize a few of the very simple things HTC/ATT haven't changed that would have helped a lot in simple day to day stuff, like light sensor control (why do those damn buttons at the bottom have to be so bright at night), and removing ATT bloatware.
Amen 2 that simplemobile is the bomb 60$ unlimited an 4g ooh nice fucc tmo an at&t
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I never understood the frustration or hate over any provider honestly.
AT&T/HTC finally coming around with their 2.2, which is great for folks who don't want to do what a lot of us do to the phone.
For the rest of us, delete/ignore the message. Nobody is forcing you to take 2.2. Situation resolved.
ATT isn't the bane of wireless communications. Fact is, no single provider out there is the end-all be-all godsend for everyone, because it's a volatile industry and everyone's wants/perceptions/experiences are different.
Many smaller networks piggyback/lease frequency/bands/bandwidth from the same towers we're all on. As such you're not going to see hellish lag or vastly deposed quality. Their network priority levels -might- change a bit, but they're not taking over the bandwidth. They were already on the same highway with us, just in a different lane.
If it's like any buyout, the inducted customers will be offered a package to stick with their grandfathered plan (if it has benefits over the company's standard plans), and will probably also keep the same limitations as before.
Example, if TMO had no service or roaming service in City A but ATT has service there, they won't get the service because of the grandfathered plan unless they go with a full ATT plan. Even though the whole time the only difference was a network flag somewhere saying that this person's account isn't authorized to use the tower in that city.
That's really what a lot of it boils down to most of the time.
SimpleMobile might work for someone, VZN might work for another.. etc.
Customer Service is always going to vary no matter what, that's based on expectations/experience. If you like the outcome you love the service, if not they suck. So take that out of the equation. Most of the big boys have similar plans right now, and have been playing the technology game.
Until someone decides to suddenly get fruity with plan prices or has some epic technology gamepiece to play.. it's going to remain mostly the same across the board.
We're all simply dollars and cents. We're a number in a database which is then multiplied by how much they pull from us annually, so they can forecast their own income. We pissed someone off, boo hoo, we have a few million other customers.
I'm not PRO ATT either. I help friends find what works for them. I give them advice based on what their needs/wants are. I used to be Bell South, then it went Cingular, now it's AT&T--and I've kept my original plan from day one because it's better than what any other provider has right now. Last I checked, 2 years ago, I'm one of two people in the entire ATT network with that particular plan. It works for me.
Good hunting to everyone out there, and enjoy the technoloigy.
I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
"Do you mind if I turn up the AC?"
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Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?
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Doesn't this mean we get better signal ?
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No. They use/share/pay for the same towers.
actually, as a tmobile customer you might have more access or something but, honestly, I really dont know..lol
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I have been a long term customer of att and have for the most part been happy. However, it is frustrating that they charge for every feature versus other carriers who give it for free or cheaper.
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
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I think for the most part there are good reasons why people bash the company. Maybe they should switch carriers if it bothers them enough, I'm not sure. However, my minor compliants do not warrant a switch.
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Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
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Btw, a phone is now more than a voice communication device and to put artificial restrictions in software in my mind is absurd.
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Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
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I'm happy for you that you have a great plan, but as you know the curent plans are poor in comparison. People are allowed to complain. Let them.
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I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
Happy hacking everyone
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I haven't compared their plans since summer, and at that point I'd compared their plans with VZN and Sprint, for someone else. At that time all 3 companies had the exact same plan offerings down to the feature and penny. Only difference was how each one billed data.
For this person, data wasn't an issue anyhow because they wanted a "regular" phone. So it came down to what phone they wanted, and they went VZN because ATT's regular phone selection blows whale chunks.
We didn't look at other smaller or competing providers because they didn't offer the same overall coverage as the big 3 did.
So what I'm saying is, I dunno what's out there now, but it seems the big 3 have similar plans as each other every time I look. Smaller competitors may have better options/plans/all-inclusive-stuff but again, you have to make sure it works for you.
And bear in mind one reason TMO scuttled the ship is because they were losing income fast.
Totally agree! "your mileage may vary", everyone's experience will be different. SprintPCS pissed me off years ago, one reason I was glad to drop them. They were undergoing heavy technical issues with their towers in our area, but because of how they had the phone programmed, even though it could roam digitally it didn't--they set it up to use their service only if we were near their signal.
Couldn't even dial 911 at one point, and I showed this to the techs. They tried with their phones.. same thing. The white-washed faces and lack of response said it all.
Prior to their working on the towers I dropped calls more frequently than I took steps walking. One time when I dropped my phone, the antenna broke off and part of the PCB was actually damaged--and it got a better signal.
Totally agree! They've got their reasons though. They're there to stay in business, we're here to make use of their service. It's a matter of keeping each-other happy.
I didn't mean to come off as a jerk and hope nobody took it as such. I'm a huge supporter of getting your complaints out there and letting people know how your experience went.
I just hate it when I see endless complaints and it seems like none of it is fruitful. If you complain, that's good! Just try and make it count. Do more than complain, explain your situation so others can make informed decisions about which carrier to go to. Things like "XYZ Carrier SUCKS they should burn to the ground!" doesn't help anyone.
Not saying anyone here has done that! I just saw a stream of "random hate for various reasons" starting to come out, like I do everywhere, and wanted to encourage folks to try and make it count. And to understand how things operate a little bit better.
Happy hacking everyone
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Ah, then we definitely agree. Thanks for clarifying your point. I understand completely. Cheers!
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Has anyone been caught / harassed by atnt for tethering or portable hotspot? I very rarely use these but have recently heard of them cracking down.
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Everyone seems to be returning their atrix :*( I don't wanna phone with no community to talk to so if thas the case ill ax mine.... but for what... the inspire isn't better I have had it
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I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
frankiedizzle87 said:
Everyone seems to be returning their atrix :*( I don't wanna phone with no community to talk to so if thas the case ill ax mine.... but for what... the inspire isn't better I have had it
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That's how I feel. I got a few days left and I'm really considering just leaving AT&T all together because there is nothing in their lineup that I can think of that could replace the Atrix. It's sad, the best (Android) phone that AT&T has and I don't want it.
i'm keeping mine granted the locked bootloader up to now sux, but i really do like the phone alot, i find myself on it more than my IP4, when the IP5 comes out that may change tho lol
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I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
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How????
Haplodroid said:
I still have about 80 days to return/exchange mine, and I probably will if HTC has a nice high end dual core phone by then.
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How do you have 80 days? I am a new customer and I thought it was just 30 days.
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yes i am goin to return the phone soon i am leaving this group..
I'm planning on keeping mine until Motorola rolls out the Gingerbread update; I figure by that time, if the bootloader hasn't been cracked, and Gingerbread doesn't address all the issues I've got with the phone...I'll unlock it and sell it on eBay and go for something else. I'm trying to be patient, but it does seem like there's been an mass exodus of Atrix owners on XDA. There's really nothing I'd want more than the Atrix on AT&T though.
I just got to this party. Why is everyone leaving? Inspire isnt that much better, if at all. Im giving this atrix a run and it feels snappier than my inspire I just returned and this is basically stock.
i was thinking of returning my atrix but i plan on doing the same as KaLiBLeeK.
nothing really seems to interest me right but i have until the 9th of april
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How do you have 80 days? I am a new customer and I thought it was just 30 days.
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Costco has a 90 day return/exchange policy.
considering i've loved the phone with just stock UI and Go Launcher EX, i don't plan on returning it. i have to stay on AT&T, and nothing is really better. the inspire doesn't have an FFC, it's too big for me, and I like using the webtop interface on my TV when I need to.
what i'm really disappointed in is AT&T's rollout; absolutely ****ty network and trying to re-market it as "4G" when it's clearly not even close to max 3G speeds, and their utter lack of marketing for the phone.
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Costco has a 90 day return/exchange policy.
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Duh, I knew that lol. Too bad they wont sell them outright. Tried to buy a Captivate outright from them for that very reason but the refused.
dLo GSR said:
considering i've loved the phone with just stock UI and Go Launcher EX, i don't plan on returning it. i have to stay on AT&T, and nothing is really better. the inspire doesn't have an FFC, it's too big for me, and I like using the webtop interface on my TV when I need to.
what i'm really disappointed in is AT&T's rollout; absolutely ****ty network and trying to re-market it as "4G" when it's clearly not even close to max 3G speeds, and their utter lack of marketing for the phone.
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Where I live, AT&T's the only one with any real presence. Sprint and Verizon (Shockingly) are non existent. T-Mobile has very, VERY little reception.
Having it work at home is extremely important, so for all their faults, where I live, AT&T has been stellar.
Plus, I talk to some folks at a nearby store. Luckily, many of them seem to know what they're talking about. They know the difference between LTE and HSPA+ and all that.
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Where I live, AT&T's the only one with any real presence. Sprint and Verizon (Shockingly) are non existent. T-Mobile has very, VERY little reception.
Having it work at home is extremely important, so for all their faults, where I live, AT&T has been stellar.
Plus, I talk to some folks at a nearby store. Luckily, many of them seem to know what they're talking about. They know the difference between LTE and HSPA+ and all that.
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I should clarify. by "****ty network" I meant it's performance vs. expectations. I've had AT&T since forever and on my BB it was never a problem because I didn't do any heavy actions, since the BB OS and browser is way limited. Signal coverage in LA is great for me. however, data speeds usually crawl (1-2 Mbps) and that annoys me as my roommate will easily get 4-5 on his T-mo HSPA+ network.
AT&T shouldn't have jumped the gun by marketing out 4G when it clearly wasn't ready and/or activated in most areas. Nowhere i've gone in southern california (from LA to SD to inland) have I seen anything more than 3 Mbps, which is pitiful unfortunately.
Hell no. I love my Atrix
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Hell no. I love my Atrix
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I love mine too!!!
keeping my Atrix bought from at&t unlocked and using it on rogers in canada dvice and im coming from the nexus one and desire z and a slew of other android devices by far the best ive had and this laptop dock is so damn innovative i cant see my self with another device for a while.... even tho bootloader is locked i think moto really stepped up there game with this phone...
You would think that with this being motos most powerful phone they would want to push out 2.3 as quickly as possible. We have had this phone about a month and I have not heard anything from motorola. I hope they don't abandon the atrix because it wont be anythi.g more than a gimmick with the webtop functionality
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This is my first Android device. Came from all of the iPhones. I am very impressed and plan to keep it. 3 weeks in and I am still learning things!
Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
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Not sure if anyone is interested but the nexus s for at&t, sprint, and t mobile is free today only on 2 year contract at best buy.
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Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.
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Also for upgrades, I was really tempted but I rather wait for Nexus 3 or what ever Nokia and MS brings to the table.
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I am also really tempted but kinda wanna wait till the Nexus 3 as well. Very tempting though...
Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Heh, this is why I haven't signed a new contract in years. They'd force me to a plan that is $20-$25 a month more expensive (plus they don't even have unlimited data any more. I'm grandfathered in on unlimited). Over the course of a contract, it's cheaper to buy a phone out right then pay the high contract price and get even a completely "free" phone.
yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.
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yawn..
This is how successful the Nexus S was: now they're giving them away. If it came cheap without a contract, I'd go pick one up. Nope, still rather have my N1.
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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.
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Tell you the truth I think the N1 was a flop for Google they wanted to move units like the Iphone and have their own Web store that idea went down the drain. they didn't know how to market the Nexus One to normal consumers after few months they wanted to sell it on mobile stores for people to see and test that never happen. finally it slowly faded away to just be a developer phone, I think this time Google wanted a company like best buy to do the whole process and have exclusivity if Goole would of thought of this we would still see the Nexus One being sold for free etc etc.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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Difference between google and apple is google is web base company people don't think of them as a software company for the same reason people had trouble knowing about android until verizon put the Droid stamp on. Googles marketing is too geeky for normal consumers 1ghz what? 2 speakers for noise cancellation what? Apples marketing twice as fast as your 3gs, Better graphics for Gaming, our top of the line speaker for calls period.
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Problem I have, is that a new contract costs 20 bucks more a month for the same plan.over 2 years, that's 480 bucks.its only worth it if I can keep the same plan.
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Yup, the math never works out. If you can actually keep a phone for two years and buy it without a contract you usually break even before two years, at least I did with my N1 although I bought a pair of those off Craig's List for $350 each.
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Yeah. The Nexus One is unknown to the common folk.
I'll get asked what phone I have and tell them a Nexus One. The response is always, with out fail, "A Nexus what?"
I kind of like having a phone no one else really has though.
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When I tell them that I have a Nexus One, they ask "Is that a droid phone?" I have to admit that most of the common folk associate the Motorola Droid commercials with Android phones. Those were pretty cool I must admit, but I'd never go with an NS over my N1. May be the TMo Hercules when it comes out, but nothing else has been enough of a jump in technology to make me move.
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I think you're exactly right. The experiment that was the N1 was, in essence, a failure. Google may be big, but they don't have the computing experience Apple has. Apple users were already wishing for an iPhone product; but no one was hoping Google would release a phone. But this is what makes the N1 such a gem: it's been a completely underground developer's dream. The NS found itself in an odd place and was really to the N1 as the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G.
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I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...
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I am not sure I completely agree with this. To me, the NS was more of a sidestep than an actual upgrade over the N1. Sure, it had a bit faster processor and more flash, but there was no micro-sdcard slot and no notification led. I think they traded off some important features and put different ones in (and NFC implementation isn't widespread enough for me to consider it a feature just yet). Both phones are great, but I think I would still prefer my N1 over an NS.
And while the original thought behind the N1 and the webstore might've fallen short of what google expected, the N1 itself was considered a success by google (although the webstore was considered a failure). Why? Because they wanted to present to the world what phones could be capable of. 1GHz processors, 512MB of RAM... Essentially, they wanted to kickstart the "superphone" craze, which as you can now tell, was extremely successful. I mean, N1s are over 18 months old, but they still hold their own. Sure there are fancier and faster phones out there, but in a fast-paced enviornment like smartphones, it is pretty impressive that people are still considering buying an 18+ month old phone (and are extremely happy when they get it).
I do think the NS was an attempt at kickstarting the NFC (and to make the phone more retail/consumer friendly vs more of a niche/developer phone that the N1 was). I am hoping the N3 will be another push for new hardware and that it will be a true upgrade (in every sense - I am really hoping for another cardock and trackball) instead of a partial upgrade in some areas, but downgrades in others...
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I own both the NS & N1 and I use the NS much more than the N1 for 2 reasons:
1) NS has a much brighter, larger, responsive screen
2) NS has more storage space (I'm aware of simple2ext)
As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
Not having notification LED sucks terribly though and I hope the iPhone 5 has one so Android OEMs will start adding them again..
It all depends on the user. Depending on what you use the phone for they could either be very similar or it could be considered a huge improvement.
I totally agree. Each user is different. My thoughts were my personal opinion. For me, it is necessary to have an sdcard slot so I can have my 32GB micro-sdcard installed (since mine is consistently sitting at 2GB or less freespace). I just wish that the NS was a total upgrade over the N1 rather than a partial one. I am really hoping that the N3 will quench my thirst for a new Nexus device.
I didn't realize all the stuff you can do with the NFC tags, so I will definitely be looking forward to that in a future phone.
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As far as NFC is concerned, sure it's not widespread but that doesn't matter. You can very cheaply purchase your own NFC tags and use this app NFC Task Launcher developed by an XDA member to basically do any function (it has Tasker support). I have a tag setup on my work desk that turns the phones screen off when I set it down. People put them in their cars as well. Very, very handy.
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That is an AWESOME use of NFC. I always thought it was just a gimmick, but the ability to place tags in places like that is pretty cool. Place one in the bosses office so that tasker puts your phone on vibrate when you walk in!